I like the movies, but this is weird.




The movie, Scream, directed by Wes Craven, featured a character wearing an elongated white face mask with hollow eyes and a black cowl, popular among Trick-or-Treaters and for Halloween parties. Aired in 1996, the film satirized a collection of past slasher movies, offering the plot of a teenage girl targeted by a maniacal killer (Ghostface) who must learn her town's secrets to save herself. But even satires can trigger unbalanced minds to mimicry. It's all in the images.


Even as Scream spawned two top-grossing sequels, it also inspired crimes. For three or four years after its release, a number of teenagers were inspired to murder: a boy and his cousin in Los Angeles obsessed with the film murdered his mother by stabbing her 45 times; a man wearing the mask shot and killed a woman in Florida; a boy in France killed his parents while acting as Ghostface; and in England, a pair of boys repeatedly stabbed a third one, claiming the film had prompted them to do it.

Daniel Gill, 14, and Robert Fuller, 15, from North Yorkshire, were found guilty on October 22, 1999 of the attempted murder of Ashley Murray and were sentence to detention in a juvenile facility for six years. They stabbed Murray eighteen times and left him to die, but a day and a half later a man walking his dog found him, and he recovered.

Just before the attack, the boys had watched Scream at the home of a drug dealer, who had shown them occultic items and weapons, and allegedly told them that the gods wanted Murray to die. Their defense was that this influence had blurred the line between fantasy and reality, as well as the line between right and wrong. Drawings of Ghostface and pictures of knives turned up in one boy's schoolbooks, according to the BBC.

But they were friends of Murray's, and even he conceded that the film might have directed their behavior. That was the statement he gave to police. They had lured him to an isolated spot, he said, and then Gill stabbed him repeatedly in the cheek and head. Fuller held him and stabbed his arm. Only when Murray pretended to be dead did they leave, but he was too injured to find his way to a hospital.

I don't agree at all.
A movie, music, etc. can NOT convince a normal person to murder someone else. There must be an underlying problem with the person to begin with.
I grew up watching slasher films from the time I was 4 and up. I have older brothers who were supposed to be babysitting me, but, instead took it as the perfect opportunity to watch those movies Mom wouldn't let them see! And I have NEVER caused any type of physical harm to another human being.
Why? Because I was brought up right, taught right from wrong, had all the love that I needed, etc.
If a child is truly influenced by a movie or music then in my opinion, that is a cry for help. Most normal people do realize that a movie is not reality and that things depicted in the movie should not be acted out. If a person does not realize this then obviously they have underlying mental/emotional problems.

Have a nice day!
Lorelei

You're probably right in that...wrong parentship/education is a well known motive for murders and other crimes....

Me? I just had fun a couple times putting on my scream costume and my voice changer, then calling people and standing in their backyard ( i did this by friends, so don't worry ), but i never even thought about going further.

When Stanely Kubricks movie A Clockwork Orange was introduced into Britain after a seven year ban there were many copy cat crimes commited in relation to the events shown in the movie. There is sometimes a direct correlation to a movie and a crime. It's as simple as that. It's easy and only half right to say that all (every single violent act you have ever seen or heard through the media hasn't influenced anybody ever) violence in the movies isn't at all responcible for inspiring any crimes whatsoever by anyone ever.

Of course movies have the ability to influence people, but it's the audiences responsibility to draw the line between thought and action.

I wouldn't take these claims of 'the film made me do it' so seriously, as it seems clear that the involved parties are meerely looking for someone or something to blame for their actions.

UGH! I'm so sick & tired of people not taking responsibility for their own actions! No movie, video game nor music can make you kill. If it did, I would have been locked up soooo long ago. I grew up watching all the Dirty Harry's, Death Wishes & most all other unacceptable, violent movies. I also grew up listening to groups like AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc. So why haven't I killed? Uh, cause I know the difference between right & wrong. I'm not saying I've never dreamed of "getting even", but violence is not an option.

So if you go out & kill someone, you better hope BIG TIME that I'm not on your jury. No sympathies here.

i do agree that people need to take repsonsibility for their actions, but I also feel that there are people who just have it in them to kill and that movie or song, book, what have you just triggers something in their mind. But, as Lorelei says So, no NORMAL person would do something like this, but we all know that there are the ones who do not fit the 'normal' category.

I made sure that my daughter understood what was pretend and what was real. We played a game so that she could understand that the characters were just actors acting out parts and I would ask her what other movie the actor was in. She can identify actors by their voice and face, much to my sisers chagrin when she blurts out "he was in.......!".

As you disagree, one thing you overlook, those cases were all men; you're a woman.
There haven't been many documented cases, if any, of women serial killers. Sure, there has been a ton of women that kill their own babies, but IMO, that is different than being a serial killer.
Most are white men, too, with one case exception in the Atlanta child murderer case (and even that case may or may not have been Wayne Williams - a black man).

What exactly is normal anyhow? Someone that goes to school, doesn't cut classes? Doesn't drink or smoke? Doesn't eat meat?

Some years back one of the evening magazine type shows (20/20, Dateline, 60 Minutes) did a study with children who didn't have television in their homes. There were about 10 kids - a mixture of boys and girls. The children played well with each other before being shown 30 minutes of a cartoon about the X-Men. The boys were playing with trucks and varooming around the room, while the girls played quietly with the dolls that were there.
After watching the cartoon for 30 minutes - within 5 minutes of the television being shut off the boys started getting rambunctious - doing chopping motions, kicking at each other and becoming quite attitudinal... The girls did also - only not as loudly.

I think this is a fairly clear indication that what children view can, and does, impact their behavior... Factor in some of the more violent video games and you have a recipe for disaffection. When children are exposed to violence on a regular basis it becomes inured in them... This is not a good thing.

1893. Norwegian painter, Edvard Munch, paints "The Scream". Munch's
work often included the symbolic portrayal of themes such as misery,
sickness, and death.
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a century goes by wherein some misery, sickness, and death happens...
then...
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February 12th, 1994. The National Gallery's "Scream" painting is
stolen. (Munch had made four versions of the painting.) Three months
later the painting was recovered.
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1996. "Scream," directed by Wes Craven, hits theatres. The plot
features a psychopathic serial killer stalking a group of teens...
just like in the movies! Ha ha ha.. art imitating life imitating art.
I get it. But then life starts imitating the art imitating life
imitating art and things get really interesting if not just a little
confusing. Oh yeah, and the killer wears a mask inspired by Edvard
Munch's now infamous painting.
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1997. Three male teenagers who had repeatedly watched Scream murder
two girls in Salem, Massachusetts.
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1997. "Scream 2" hits theatres. In this sequel to the 1996 film, the
number of suspects only goes down as the body count slowly goes up!
Ha ha ha.. I get it! Just like in real life!
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1999. Patrick was 14 when he put on a "Scream" mask and broke into a
former teacher’s house near Hood Canal. Yelling "Die, b****, die," he
repeatedly stabbed and beat her while her baby slept in another room.
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1999. Thirty-four violent films, including Scream, found in the rooms
of two male college students at Hadlow, Kent, who stabbed a friend to
death, dismembered his body, and then burnt the leftovers.
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1999. Two schoolboys who brutally stabbed a friend and left him for
dead after watching Scream are convicted of attempted murder at Hull.
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1999. With the help of two cousins, a teenager stabbed his mother to
death after watching Scream in Lynwood, California.
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2000. "Scream 3" hits theatres. Because inspiring a monumental string
of barbarous copycat murders really requires a trilogy! Ya dig?
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2000. Three men, one in a "Scream" mask, scaled a balcony and broke
into an apartment in the England Run complex off U.S. 17. One victim
was bound with duct tape. Matthew W. Glenn, 18, resisted his
attackers and was shot in the back.
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2000. A woman and two men, wearing Scream masks, robbed a store in
Lowell, Massachusetts, and shot a man dead.
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2000. Five young men wore Scream masks when they gang raped a 21-
year-old woman in a town near Paris.
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A few weeks later at Lebetain, eastern France, the police arrested a
boy of 15 when his parents were found dead after being repeatedly
stabbed while they slept. In his confession the boy said he had
hallucinations after watching "Scream" and heard voices telling him
to kill his parents.
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November 29th, 2000. An 18-year-old man robbed a convenience store
wearing a "Scream" mask -- and his 17-year-old wife drove the getaway
car. Jessica Powell told police they took the money so they could go
to the movies.
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2001. A 24-year-old Belgian in the town of Gerpinnes with no criminal
record and no history of psychiatric problems dressed himself in a
long black tunic, donned a Scream mask, and stabbed a 15-year-old
schoolgirl 30 times with two enormous kitchen knives.
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2002. Man accused of shooting two men dead in a bar in Pennsylvania
wore a Scream mask.
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March 2002. After two teenage girls at Saint-Vit, eastern France,
tortured a classmate in an abandoned house, the local public
prosecutor said they had admitted watching the film just beforehand.
He claimed that the girls, aged 15 and 13, had been influenced by the
film and carried a knife which "strongly recalled the weapon used in
the horror film."
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April 2nd, 2002. Kevin Skaggs was at the counter of the Oregon Quick
Cash Payday Advance when a man wearing a Scream mask walked in. The
robber indicated that he had a gun and wanted money. Skaggs pulled
his own gun and shot Jeffrey Gordon Duncan in the chest. The
assailant fled and was found dead a few blocks away. "If there is one
good thing that comes out of this," Skaggs said, "it's that people
will know that we are not going to put up with this sort of thing."
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May 2002. A 17-year-old french boy stabs a 15-year-old girl 17 times
after watching "Scream". He had tried unsuccessfully to attack two
other schoolgirls before inviting his final victim to go for a walk
around a football field near their homes.
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October 2002. A masked gunman robbed a North Toledo McDonald’s and
fled with an undisclosed amount of money. Wearing a mask from the
movie Scream and using a voice changer to disguise his voice, the
robber approached the counter and pulled out a gun.
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November 3rd, 2002. A group of about 15 men, all believed to be Asian
and in their early 20's, went on a stabbing rampage in England and
knifed 4 random people. The main offender was wearing a Scream-style
Halloween mask.
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November 23rd, 2002. 24-year-old Jeffrey Ivan Vample of Norristown,
PA, raped, strangled, and robbed 67 year old Alice Hufnagle-Llauman.
She was found half naked and bound with duct tape in her bedroom. A
bloody "Scream" mask, and a calender with the notation on November
23rd reading "My Love, What a Day," were recovered.
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July 31st, 2003. 51-year-old West Roxbury man, James Hayes, decided
to break off his hockey stick, attach a 5-inch knife, grab a Scream
mask, a cloak, and some electrical cord, and drive to his ex-wife's
house after learning she was sleeping with a woman. Once there, he
burst into the bedroom wearing the Scream mask and repeatedly stabbed
his ex-wifes lesbian lover with his makeshift "man-spear".
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October 31st, 2003. A crazed psychotherapist wore a Scream mask and
"ghost" cloak to kill a stranger on Halloween. Heather Stephenson-
Snell, president of an all-women chapter of the Hell's Angels, set
out to murder her love rival Diane Lomax and frame her ex-lover
(former *spam filter* stripper Adrian Sinclair) for the murder. But when
neighbour Bob Wilkie, 43, intervened she shot him dead with a sawn-
off shotgun instead.
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February 2004. At around 5am a man attired in black robe and a Scream
mask, climbed through a dormitory window in Leeds. The burglar locked
himself in the bedroom and held the student at hammer point. He then
demanded mobile phone, credit cards, and relevant pin numbers. The
burglar threatened to return soon and kill the student if he had
given the wrong number. The burglar left, locking the student inside
his room. After much frantic banging on ceilings and floors, the
student succeeded in waking his flatmates who had to bust the door
open and release the poor captive.
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April 10th, 2004. A Hamilton liquor store was held up by an armed man
wearing a green "Scream" mask. He got away on a blue mountain bike
carrying several bottles of spirits.
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August 22nd, 2004. Armed, masked thieves burst into an open Oslo
museum in broad daylight and snatched the Edvard Munch masterpiece
"The Scream". Estimated value of the painting is between $77 million
and $97 million Canadian. The painting has yet to be recovered.
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September 2004. 61-year-old Richard Anthony Carbone shot and killed a
young friend, Daniel Ray Elzie, 19, who had been staying at his
apartment in Rolling Hills in East Bremerton. Carbone heard a noise
at the back of his apartment and was confronted by Elzie wearing a
"scream mask" and carrying what appeared to be a bloody sword.
Carbone shot Elzie in the stomach, continued to drink for a couple of
hours, then called his son to tell him what had happened. By the time
his son arrived, Elzie had bled to death.
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September 29th, 2004, for reasons known only to her, Britney Spears
put on a Scream-style mask for a visit to the local burger joint.
Spears, accompanied by reputed spouse Kevin Federline, little sister
Jamie Lynn, and mom-chauffeur Lynn, finished the evening by lobbing
milkshakes at paparazzi.

I have heard of video games that can cause people to murder others, but I haven't heard of movies doing that.

Yes, I have heard of movies doing this. Actually it isn't the actual film causing it, but the mental state of the person themselves. I wish I could remember what the mental condition is called, but basically, it is when the person is unable to differentiate between fact and fiction when reading a book or watching a film, it is almost as if they put themselves in the "starring" role and believe everything they see and read and think it is themselves.

There was a case a few years ago, whereby someone jumped in front of a train (they died of course), it turned out they had just left the cinema after watching The Matrix. I guess they could not tell the difference between real and fantasy and really believed they were from The Matrix.

i remember reading about someone making a claw hand exaclty like the one from the a nightmare on elm street series, the man was obssesed with the movies and attacked his friend with the weapon

There are always going to be idiots. Rather they get these ideas from movies, games or music, they are still idiots to start with. Can you imagine having to jump through the same hoops to rent a video that one has to go through to buy a gun? I don't think that anyone would want to impose such restrictions so, we are just going to have to live with the fact that crazy people do crazy things. All you can do is try to figure out which ones are unstable and keep your powder dry.

Actually... I know of at least 50... yes, there are offspring related murders, but, they still count...

As fas as media contributing to the increase of copy-cats and serial killings... I don't hold the media responsible, but there has been an increase of them since the ability to reach the masses has improved.

Think back to 1800's London... Jack the Ripper... at least one of them was a copy-cat based on the limited description in the newspapers.

I agree with those who say the movies, music, images don't make people go out and kill, but they do feed the already skewed brains of the mentally unstable.

Well, first off I agree with the majority. A song, video, book or whatever wont make any random person kill, the person would have had to have been on the verse anyways. Some do it out of competitiveness or a desire to prove themselves. I heard recently about a group of boys in England dressed in white suits and wearing jockstraps beating a drunken bum to death in an alley.... what a bunch of loons. They had seen A Clockwork Orange to many times (by the way... an awesome movie). With the new Manhunt 2 game coming out and the idea being to murder people as gruesomely as possible, geez I wonder what is next. Its like Grand Theft Auto except you're a serial killer not just a spree shooter and drug enforcer. And I've heard about people chopping each other up with hatchets after listening to Insane Clown Posse and Psychopathic Records. Like Jacob Robida...

I was a very violent person, but I never acted that way because of the media.

This makes me wonder if blaming movies, music, video games, etc. is going to become the new "Twinkie Defense".

I remember back when this happened in 1978. Even at the age of 14, I thought it was the biggest load of garbage I had ever heard! And to be honest, it's just gotten worse over time! So you see blaming something or someone other than yourself for your actions is nothing new. It's just now most people go into rehab or anger management classes for it.

Sorry, people are responsible for ever single minute thing they do. No blaming outside sources EVER!

What a load of crap. I am a horror fanatic, I love reading and studying true crime, and Hell, I want to be a mortician but I haven't murdered yet.

Come on! The Killers Mothmen listed at the other page were OBVIOUSLY following a pattern of the movie. A 24-year-old Belgian in the town of Gerpinnes with no criminal
record and no history of psychiatric problems dressed himself in a
long black tunic, donned a Scream mask, and stabbed a 15-year-old
schoolgirl 30 times with two enormous kitchen knives, ripping her left side open. I put in a picture below this post what he used in the killing.

The man had no psychatric problems of any sort! But when the trilogy ended he flew way over the cuckoo's nest, and dressed himself as the killer, acted like the killer, stabbed the girl to death like the killer. In Court, he even stated he was ''playing a role.''

No one will convince me this murder was not based on the movie. Movies can do alot to people! If sad movies can make someone cry, romantic movies can make someone fall in love, it can also let someone kill.

Just because he had no history of mental problems doesn't mean that they weren't there. That just means that no one realized they were there. If he really thought he was the killer in Scream, he obviously had a mental problem.

Movies don't make people kill. They might give someone an idea on how they're going to kill. If someone wants to kill someone, they're going to kill them. That's it. No matter what. The only thing watching Scream is going to do is going to make them put on a ghost mask while they do it. It doesn't make them kill, only gives them an idea on how to make it more interesting than the normal 'bang, you're dead' scenario.

Edited to fix typo.

While I believe there are copycat murderers, I think for the majority murders wouldn't be done based on movies.

The same could be said for violent video games. And on one good note(I guess you could call it that), I knew a guy who played video games and in the games he'd kill police officers, kill prostitutes and shoot innocent bystanders until they were bloody. He told me one day

"I play these types of games so I don't do it in real life."

So I can't totally say that violent people who watch these movies, wouldn't act out in the same way. People need an outlet and for violent people, violent video games sometimes seem to be that outlet.

But what about violent people who watch murder movies. Where's their outlet? Maybe they don't play video games. So although they may not act out in the same way as portrayed in the movies, they may want to still act out in other ways --ways that are more feasible.

So edgar Allen poe must be blamed for the inquisition?

So if he did not play games he would go to the streets and kill officers, prostitutes and innocent bystanders?

um.......I knew this guy pretty well; and my answer to your question is......."Yes."

That means that aggresive games feed his hunger for murders. It's the same with movies. If he gets twisted one day and decides to commit a crime, i'm confessed that the game just gave him that last push to do it. Playing violent games is the last thing that will keep him from killing people in real life. ( By the way, you should really meet new people than guys who would kill people haha )

By the way, does anyone think putting on a ghost comstume let's the police not discover who it was and how it was done? I'm curious if the police can find any evidence of the murderer while having such a costume on. I mean, the killer can't have no blood on him so the costume is a perfect way to hide, am i right? Just curious.

I must agree. I grew up with all of the above influences and none of them made me want to kill people. It's all in the mind.....

Yep its 100% the films fault!

Films/video games don't have any influence what so ever if somone goes out and kills somone, you can say they would have done it anyway but maybe in a different style if anything.
GTA is probably the most popular ps2 game of its time millions of people have played it yet you don't see millons of people rushing out stealing cars and then going on a rampage do you?

Its make a more intresting story if the media can link a crime with a film/video game, and sadly guess people think they can just end up blaming there actions of film/video aswell

no film can MAKE anyone commit murder, nor can books nor can games, people have to be basically whacked to murder anyone else.

If outside influences could make murderers of people then I would be a serial killer as I spent most of my life studying the most notorious killers of our time.

April 05, 2007

A HORROR film fan who slashed a sleeping pal with a home-made Freddy Krueger glove was jailed for life yesterday.
Jason Moore attacked John-Paul Skamarski with the steel-bladed weapon — used by fiend Freddy in the Nightmare On Elm Street movies — after inviting him to his flat for drinks.
He had lovingly crafted it by welding four 5in blades, each as sharp as a cut-throat razor, on to a leather gardening glove.
Prosecutor Balraj Bhatia said stonemason Moore had seen Nightmare On Elm Street 20 times — and made FOUR gloves. Judge Michael Pert told him: “You are obsessed with killing.”

okay...

I killed someone, but it's not my fault: It was Hollywood, it was the Playstation, it was my single parent home, it was me having no social life, it was because I'm poor, it was because that boy wouldn't go out with me, it was because I was bullied, it was...blah blah blah.

Why can't these people accept responsiblity?

Yeah, the people who do copycat killings do so so that they may be able to invoke these filmns as part of their defense. Am not convinced that they don't know what they are doing, more the fact that they use movies to facilitate their prefered method of killing, and to make it as theatrical as possible so they can use it as a defense when they get caught. It's as simple as that.;......

There's gonna be a new show on TV,

'Murders based on movies.'

oooh, thats horrible!

what is it? Is that the name of the movie?

nope, yu don't look violent

yeah, why exactly or who said he was normal to begin with?

dont scare them, they might think you are

The movie might be titled 'Scream' based on the painting by this one=eared guy.

It's not the movies fault, if people are that impressionable then they shouldn't watch the movie. I see violent movies all the time and im only 14, but that doesn't mean im gonna go on a murderous rampage with a butcher knife. Some people are crazy, stupid, and all around f*ckheads, and they are the type who shouldn't watch those movies. Movies are fictional(usually) and are just meant for entertainment purposes, such as scaring you. Plus about half (maybe less) of those murders are related to scream. If someone watches scream, then wears the mask and the cloak, and kills somone with a knife, that has to do with the movie. If someone wears a scream mask and has a gun and robs a store, that has nothing to f*cking do with it. They wear a mask so noone will see there face. There wearing a scream mask beacuse it's cheap and easy to find. Walk into any costume store and there is a 90% chance you'll find at least three different ghostface masks. Stop f*cking making everything into a scapegoat! Sunrisesunset is right. People need to learn about something called Responsibillity.

I'd say media attracts people to copy what they see or here. An example is Gang shootings, probably influenced by people like 50 Cent and other Gangsta rappers, games and films can do this at times to.

But in my case, I have a few examples.

"Silence of the lambs"- Enjoyed it? Yes. Eaten someone? no.
"The shining"-Got into the plot? Yep. Tried to kill someone? Had thoughts but everyone probably does when angry.
Played pretty sick and violent games, haven't done stuff to me.
I listen to bands like "Slipknot", "Lamb of god", "Slayer",plenty of Death/Doom metal, my nan says they'll mess with me. They haven't.

Only film that effected my minds The Matrix, that screwed up my way of thinking quite a bit, thinking about "Does this world exist?"

So I say it's people taking the fantasy to far and almost believing they're the characters. One thing I remember is this kid believing he was Dante from Devil May Cry. Ended up killing his brother or something.

Maybe Movies influence people but they do not cause people to kill. There are so many children that watch violent movies and do not end up killing people. If there are so many of the same people who watch those movies and dont kill or harm others then how can you say the movies "caused" these few people to kill? If these movies "caused" them to kill then there would have been many many more deaths due to the thousands of people who have seen these movies/. Do u really believe that these movies 'made' them kill? I really doubt it..

well I love the movie Grease. I sometimes dance around my livingroom singing like Sandra Dee.....but now do you think I am going out and trying to be a pink lady and all? I am not looking for my Danny. See this would have to work both ways. People kill because the wiring is wrong somewhere. Karma? I do not know. But no movie caused such tragedies. If they are a killer, they'd have killed eventually without the movie. (If they hadn't killed before) JMHO. Could it excite a possible killer? Sure....just like sex scenes may excite me. .....that doesn't mean I stay wanting sex......movies end....a killer's thought were there before and long after.....

So... basically, the defense states that the movie "Scream" had caused them to go temporarily insane?
I'd like to see them argue that. I don't believe that "Scream" profiled murder in a positive light, although I do admit I haven't seen the movie.

If someone kills and then says it was in the name of God, do you blame God or do you blame the person? The problem is not in the movies, is in those murderers DNA and disturbed minds!

lol, yes, undoubtedly gang shootings are influenced by 50 cent and gangster rap... espcially now... seeing as everyone views 50 cent as a gangsta rapper.

As for the whole movies influencing people to kill, i recall something i read in a paper or saw on the news about some bloke killing a small number of people because he was afraid they were going to turn in Agents from The Matrix.

In my oppinion people don't kill because of movies, music or books. If a person has an inclination towards murder then he's going to kill someone, maybe movies or music just give him/her an idea as to how to do it in a more interesting way. And as for violent games causing violence, isn't that just the governemnts argument to put a ban on violent video games?

So actually we should say like the killer did in Scream: Horror movies don't create pshycho's, horror movies make psycho's more creative?

"On June 15, 2007 a 28 year old man, Björn Jue, was strapped to a chair and tortured to death in the town of Pernis, The Netherlands. The suspected murderers are said to have been inspired by Hostel: Part II and chose Jue as victim after Jue's ex-girlfriend alleged he had molested his 5-year old son. Two police officers arrived at the scene after calls that Jue was "held against his will". Jue was screaming for his life. However, the officers did not enter the house and were told by superiors at the police department to wait for backup, which had to come from Rotterdam. When additional police arrived half an hour later, the screaming had stopped. Jue died at the scene. Full details were not disclosed so as to not compromise the investigation."

A movie can't drive one to kill. A movie can inspire someone to kill in a particularly gruesome way, but it can't be blamed for the person's want to kill in the first place.

Not true at all

Gang shootings have always happened as long as guns have been on the streets. 50 cent just raps about it and the gang life which is appealing to people who have nothing to lose. Turf wars and rivalry are responsible for most gang shootings not 50 snitch.


This guy was a nut plain and simple.



I think to some point that such content in a way desensitizes people to extreme violence. This being said it takes a certain type of perspective and mind set to be able to commit a murder in true horror fashion.

Movie, book, games etc do not make people go out and kill, they would have done it eventually anyway.

I reckon the way the "300" internet meme has been passed around it's only a matter of time before someone gets kicked down a well.