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__Kratos__
PETERSBURG, Ky (Reuters) - Like many modern museums, the newest U.S. tourist attraction includes some awesome exhibits -- roaring dinosaurs and a life-sized ship.

But only at the Creation Museum in Kentucky do the dinosaurs sail on the ship -- Noah's Ark, to be precise.

The Christian creators of the sprawling museum, unveiled on Saturday, hope to draw as many as half a million people each year to their state-of-the-art project, which depicts the Bible's first book, Genesis, as literal truth.

More of the article here...

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Wow. I'm speechless. mellow.gif
Chokmah
It should not be classed as a museum, it's an exhibition only.

Besides... If they want to continue making people stupid with ridiculous stories that are proven to never have happened well... I don't think I'll bother pitying their dimwitted children. disgust.gif
GoddessWhispers
Genesis is literal truth. That explains why men have one less rib than the women, that were made by god, from them. blink.gif

Besides that, I'm seeing double: Already posted
zandore
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Curse you Kratos
I read that and choked on my beer!

While the $27 million museum near Cincinnati has drawn snickers from media and condemnation from U.S. scientists, those who believe God created the heavens and the Earth in six days about 6,000 years ago say their views are finally being represented.

From your link

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For those interested: creationmuseum.org
Darkwind
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A Gallup poll last year showed almost half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve but were created by God in their present form within the last 10,000 years.

Three of 10 Republican presidential candidates said in a recent debate that they did not believe in evolution.


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It is too late we as a country are doomed to wallow in ignorance.
Wonder how big a boat it would take to fit two of every dinosaur that had lived on the world. Talk about rocking the boat.

__Kratos__
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ May 28 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]1698139[/snapback]
Besides that, I'm seeing double: Already posted


Consider my back already whipped for my ignorance. blush.gif

I didn't look on the second page. ph34r.gif

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Curse you Kratos
I read that and choked on my beer!


laugh.gif I hope you didn't spill any.
zandore
QUOTE(Darkwind @ May 28 2007, 07:12 PM) [snapback]1698148[/snapback]
Wonder how big a boat it would take to fit two of every dinosaur that had lived on the world. Talk about rocking the boat.

Can you imagine the stinky dodo......

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QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ May 28 2007, 07:15 PM) [snapback]1698153[/snapback]
laugh.gif I hope you didn't spill any.

I had to wipe the screen and keyboard off.
Guardsman Bass
QUOTE(zandore @ May 28 2007, 05:11 PM) [snapback]1698147[/snapback]
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Curse you Kratos
I read that and choked on my beer!

While the $27 million museum near Cincinnati has drawn snickers from media and condemnation from U.S. scientists, those who believe God created the heavens and the Earth in six days about 6,000 years ago say their views are finally being represented.

From your link

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For those interested: creationmuseum.org


You mean, outside of the churches, public debates, private chatrooms, private religious organizations, missionary sessions, and white house prayer meetings and bible-study groups?
Affliction
It's a museum of lies!
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE(Guardsman Bass @ May 29 2007, 03:01 AM) [snapback]1698383[/snapback]
You mean, outside of the churches, public debates, private chatrooms, private religious organizations, missionary sessions, and white house prayer meetings and bible-study groups?


Yeah but this is a museum, where science and history are usually displayed. Maybe displaying 'creation science' in a museum might trick people into thinking that its a real science.
Shadow_Hill
QUOTE(Cradle of Fish @ May 29 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]1698802[/snapback]
Yeah but this is a museum, where science and history are usually displayed. Maybe displaying 'creation science' in a museum might trick people into thinking that its a real science.


Maybe I'm giving human beings too much credit, but I think the only people who are going to believe this bunkum are the ones who would have believed it anyway... for the rest of us it will just be a mildly entertaining oddity... a place to go for a chuckle when there are no good comedies on at the cinema.
seanph
People flock to the US because of the high quality of our college institutions ... and then there's this total BS! It's beyond embarrassing!

Sean
darkmoonlady
"CREATIONIST MUSEUM" is an oxymoron. Those two things I don't think make any sense together. On a more serious note, where did the 27 million dollars come from? I think this is yet another great example of why churches should not be exempt from taxation. If they didn't have the shelter of being a "church" when in fact most of them are corporations, they woudn't have the extra spending cash to say build idiotic museums, or buy influence in Washington DC.
mako
As a member of a belief system that does not have places of worship, congregations or a god that needs money; I have long advocated taxing all religions. They all seem to be corporations for profit with a free spending clientel! yes.gif
Ebonykrow
Kentucky, what are you doing? D: *ashamed*
Ryo Ohki
If humans lived with dinosaurs it would be like Jurassic Park.
Shaftsbury
I'm guessing they didn't put a full size Sauropod model next to their Ark display?

The Ark was supposed to be 45 feet in height, with 3 decks?

Some of the larger Sauropod's were pushing 40 feet tall in total and about 15 feet high at the shoulder. blink.gif
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(mako @ May 29 2007, 02:04 PM) [snapback]1699332[/snapback]
As a member of a belief system that does not have places of worship, congregations or a god that needs money; I have long advocated taxing all religions. They all seem to be corporations for profit with a free spending clientel! yes.gif


I so totally agree ! thumbsup.gif
Shadow_Hill
QUOTE(Lt_Ripley @ May 29 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]1699405[/snapback]
I so totally agree ! thumbsup.gif


Moi aussi. yes.gif
Beckys_Mom
From the artical --> A Gallup poll last year showed almost half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve but were created by God in their present form within the last 10,000 years.

blink.gif wtf? almost half...blimey

Heres what i dont undertand. there is actual proof that dino bones date back millions and millions of years..............the bible says nothing about that

draconic chronicler
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ May 29 2007, 03:28 PM) [snapback]1699531[/snapback]
From the artical --> A Gallup poll last year showed almost half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve but were created by God in their present form within the last 10,000 years.

blink.gif wtf? almost half...blimey

Heres what i dont undertand. there is actual proof that dino bones date back millions and millions of years..............the bible says nothing about that


Actually it does, which is kind of scary. First come fish, next the Tannin and Birds, then mammals, and finally humans. For centuries the word Tannin was tranlated to dragon. Only in the last hundred years or so Bibles now translate this word to whale or sea monster, but this does not make sense in many places becasue they are described living on the land as well. But before the word dinosaur was coined, a dragon would be a decent description of at least some dinosaurs. And also interesting is that birds and tanin are grouped together, yet it was only in that last couple decades that scientists knew dinos and birds are related.
punkmonkey123
Not only did dinosaurs sail on the ship, but giant man-eating broccolis were flying right next to it! How did they survive?

I'm suprised at how idiotic people can be.... sad.gif
GoddessWhispers
QUOTE(punkmonkey123 @ May 30 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]1700038[/snapback]
Not only did dinosaurs sail on the ship, but giant man-eating broccolis were flying right next to it! How did they survive?

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Now, now! In all fairness those man-eating broccolis weren't so inclined before the fall. So the answer to how they survived is rather simple. No salad bars B.C. grin2.gif

The Silver Thong
I have to agree with 99% of the posts here. This is a complete and utter embarrassment to science and fact as we know it. This is a belief concocted into a museum for educational puposes. I sure hope that this is not a learning tool for the general public oh wait a sec. I have an argument for this "museum" it's called capitalism people. If I produce a product that I claim to stop aging and people buy it and it's not true then do i have to shut down my organization/business? NO I DON'T. Every skin care product out there claims to do this and people eat it up. The simple fact, as stated eiarlier was that religious organizations need to be taxed as any business should. This museum is a result of rampant capitalism gone un checked. Will I be called a commie? probably. People this is about advertising for a product and the product is creationism. If a company wants to make money of an idea like those get rich quick late night bs commercials let them,just as this museum does from it's bs beliefs. It all boils back down to TAX'S. TAX the damn church, tax them hard core. You can not denie this practice because it makes money and well that capitalisim. Hell i would create a church of "BBQ"on every saturday and orship the meat god and bbq naked if it could make me rich.
Shaftsbury
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Hell i would create a church of "BBQ"on every saturday and orship the meat god and bbq naked if it could make me rich.


If you get it going let me know and I might stop in to pay my respects to the great golden cow, but please keep your clothes on ! didn't you learn anything about frying bacon?
darkmoonlady
Aside from the just laughable attempt at "creation science' is the fact that people who dont even believe in that will make money off of it. There is a HUGE industry to feed the tiny minds of people who think like this and they buy just like all good capitalists. The Evanglical/fundamentalist money base is out there and there are people who know this and put it to good use. Just think about the estimated 80 million evanglicals with money burning a hole in their pocket and can't take the kids to liberal disneyland or to their local museum where they might *gasp* learn about evolution or real science. So 27 million dollars later, we have this monstrosity where fundmentalists can take their kids on an "educational" summer trip and buy tons of creationist museum crap. All the while like another poster said, that money could have helped the poor. If there were a Jesus I doubt he'd step foot in the place....
Paranoid Android
While I don't subscribe to a young-earth theory, or claim dinosaurs existed on Noah's Ark, I think it would be improper of me to ridicule someone on the basis of this belief. If people believe this, then so be it - I may disagree with them, but I won't point and laugh at them as some others might.

As for the comment that this museum is a prime reason why they should tax religions, I can agree only to a point. The organisations instituting massive building plans like this have millions to spend on these initiatives. Taxing them won't hurt them (though it may slow them down). What it will do is harm the small church parish with fewer than say 50 members. Churches like this struggle to even keep the doors open. The buildings are often in disrepair, the pastors of these churches usually earn less than most people, and of what they do earn much is put right back into the church to keep it running (and consider that these people spend often more than 7 years at university and college and could be on 6-figure salaries elsewhere). It is these small churches that would be hurt most by an introduction of taxes to religion. Yes, where the money is, the tax-exempt status may be being abused, but down the other end adding taxes would cripple the organisation. And unfortunately, it is impossible to tax one and not the other......

Regards, PA
GIDEON MAGE
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ May 31 2007, 02:51 AM) [snapback]1702019[/snapback]
While I don't subscribe to a young-earth theory, or claim dinosaurs existed on Noah's Ark, I think it would be improper of me to ridicule someone on the basis of this belief. If people believe this, then so be it - I may disagree with them, but I won't point and laugh at them as some others might.
Regards, PA

translated into English, this means, "when faced with incontrovertible scientific evidence, I don't interpret the bible literally."
darkmoonlady
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ May 31 2007, 06:51 AM) [snapback]1702019[/snapback]
While I don't subscribe to a young-earth theory, or claim dinosaurs existed on Noah's Ark, I think it would be improper of me to ridicule someone on the basis of this belief. If people believe this, then so be it - I may disagree with them, but I won't point and laugh at them as some others might.

As for the comment that this museum is a prime reason why they should tax religions, I can agree only to a point. The organisations instituting massive building plans like this have millions to spend on these initiatives. Taxing them won't hurt them (though it may slow them down). What it will do is harm the small church parish with fewer than say 50 members. Churches like this struggle to even keep the doors open. The buildings are often in disrepair, the pastors of these churches usually earn less than most people, and of what they do earn much is put right back into the church to keep it running (and consider that these people spend often more than 7 years at university and college and could be on 6-figure salaries elsewhere). It is these small churches that would be hurt most by an introduction of taxes to religion. Yes, where the money is, the tax-exempt status may be being abused, but down the other end adding taxes would cripple the organisation. And unfortunately, it is impossible to tax one and not the other......

Regards, PA



I feel it is perfectly fine to ridicule them if they choose to create something and call it a museum, present psuedo science as fact and basically misinform people for money no less. As for taxing the churches, its fairly easy to see which churches are the ones that become corporations and we all know it. If you like tax only certain churches with x amount of members, either way, they have too much power from being exempt from something they shouldn't be. As far as I'm concerned the second that any Christian attempts to lobby a politician they lose that tax exempt status. Whether churches and church leaders like it or not we have a separation of church and state. Pushing an agenda that attempts to make this a Christian only nation should be met with some form of deterrant. We have a freedom to believe anything we want here in the US, and that is why the Creationist museum exists, thats fine, but they keep trying to use power and influence to get that pseudo science in the classroom of Federally funded schools. I find that unacceptable.
Paranoid Android
QUOTE(GIDEON MAGE @ Jun 1 2007, 12:42 AM) [snapback]1702423[/snapback]
translated into English, this means, "when faced with incontrovertible scientific evidence, I don't interpret the bible literally."
Translated into proper English, it means, "the structure of Genesis chapters 1-11 (from whence we derive our creation account) is written in such language as to scream "poetry", "imagery", "metaphor". As such, I feel that it is more appropriate to think of the Genesis creation as the "how" of scientific understanding, but rather the "why" of theological discussion."

Incidentally, the Jews also hold the Old Testament (or Tanakh, if you prefer) to be the word of God. Do they subscribe to a young-earth theory also? And if not, why not? And why is a Christian interpreting it this way incorrect compared to the Jew?

Thanks for taking the time to respond thumbsup.gif

Regards, PA
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(GIDEON MAGE @ May 31 2007, 03:42 PM) [snapback]1702423[/snapback]
translated into English, this means, "when faced with incontrovertible scientific evidence, I don't interpret the bible literally."

straight to the point..i like it
seanph
A wonderful response regarding this issue from a gent named "Paul" over at X-Christian. It reads:

Ken Ham, using science, could apparently trace his lineage back to Noah, who had a son named Ham.

This is not so much a museum as it is a church with special effects. One has to wonder why "51%" who believe "God" created them is feeling "beaten down" by "15%" who believe in evolution. Could it be the 'weapons of our warfare' are more "mighty?" If "God" be for the "child of God," why do they need a museum like mere humans in order to score points? If "God be for [them], who can be against [them]?" Apparently, since God remains silent in their defense, Christians are now forced to use an animated Noah to 'prove' Gods existance.


SOURCE
http://www.exchristian.net/2/2007/05/creat...n-northern.html

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!

Sean
Beckys_Mom
QUOTE(seanph @ Jun 2 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]1705513[/snapback]
A wonderful response regarding this issue from a gent named "Paul" over at X-Christian. It reads:

Ken Ham, using science, could apparently trace his lineage back to Noah, who had a son named Ham.

This is not so much a museum as it is a church with special effects. One has to wonder why "51%" who believe "God" created them is feeling "beaten down" by "15%" who believe in evolution. Could it be the 'weapons of our warfare' are more "mighty?" If "God" be for the "child of God," why do they need a museum like mere humans in order to score points? If "God be for [them], who can be against [them]?" Apparently, since God remains silent in their defense, Christians are now forced to use an animated Noah to 'prove' Gods existance.


SOURCE
http://www.exchristian.net/2/2007/05/creat...n-northern.html

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!

Sean

Using animated noah to prove God is silly LOL............next they will be telling us that God is really Japanese lol
seanph
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Lion of Judah
There could'nt of been dinosaurs on the ark because they were wiped out years before the flood
zandore
Something I remember seeing posted some time ago.....

VATICAN CITY - The Vatican's chief astronomer said Friday that "intelligent design" isn't science and doesn't belong in science classrooms, the latest high-ranking Roman Catholic official to enter the evolution debate in the United States.

The Rev. George Coyne, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, said placing intelligent design theory alongside that of evolution in school programs was "wrong" and was akin to mixing apples with oranges.

"Intelligent design isn't science even though it pretends to be," the ANSA news agency quoted Coyne as saying on the sidelines of a conference in Florence. "If you want to teach it in schools, intelligent design should be taught when religion or cultural history is taught, not science."


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sam12six
Maybe a little off topic - or a tangent at least, but my theory on the noah's ark thing is this:

based on the size of the boat, there was plenty of room for all the animals - all the animals they knew about!

the arguments about dinosaurs and 2 of each "kind" not each species kill me. the person who wrote that book of the bible (or copied it - depending on what you believe) had never been to China, so there were no pandas on the ark...
SilverCougar
QUOTE(Lion of Judah @ Jun 2 2007, 02:33 PM) [snapback]1705588[/snapback]
There could'nt of been dinosaurs on the ark because they were wiped out years before the flood



By a few million years...
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