If Christianity was a pyramid scheme I could understand the mistrust associated with Christians here on the forums.
If they were trying to get you to join their church to bolster their numbers and increase the financial gains of the church, but I don’t see that happening here.

Christians have nothing to gain personally from any conversion except perhaps a friend.

Then why do they want to share their faith with others constantly?

Many on these forums see the word faith and immediately set out to debunk outright as it is were a fire that needs to be extinguished immediately.

Let’s look at it this way. If you found that the cure for cancer was as simple as sugar and water taken at precise times of the day. Would you share this news with joy and zeal? If you are a normal caring human off course you would, with as many people as you can. Even if you did not understand how or why it works you would still share the method. You would relate your experience with the method as well as others testimonies as well.

Well Christians believe with all their heart, mind and soul that they have found the one and only cure for death, the secret to immortality and the fountain of youth all rolled up in a single Messiah They would be insensitive to not share with others. Even if only one other person benefits from it and most people reject it.

They are willing to take the ridicule and humiliation that goes along with sharing something so simple. Yet they willingly allow themselves to be insulted and degraded by those that choose not to believe them.
If their motivation was purely selfish smug then all they need do is keep their mouths shut and we shall all find the truth when we leave this world.

So just what is it you think motivates a Christian in telling others of their faith and joy and how they achieved it? And why does it annoy and anger a lot of people?

It’s a simple “believe it or not”, choice yet the reaction from both sides are often hostile and rude, and why does that happen?

One objection I hear a lot, more from the non believers is the threat of “Hell” Why would hell be a threat to someone who does not believe in it? If someone told me I was going to Bonga Bonga if I don’t believe in BoB. I would be more concerned with whom the heck is BoB? Bonga Bonga would not even be on the radar at that point.
And to most Christians hell is just the eternal separation between man and his Creator and non believers are already riding that club car anyway.

Your thoughts?

Irish

oh my god, no kidding. EVERYTHING that i have said regarding my personal belief system has been met with nothing but pure ridicule and almost downright hatred. christians, myself included, generally have nothing to gain from spreading the message. i can honestly say that the only thing i would gain by helping someone solidify a relationship with the creator is the feeling of knowing that i helped someone else experience a happiness that i cant describe.

I've noticed before that many Christians simply believe they are trying to ensure their friends eternal life with them. This is innocent and cute, but heaven is a fantasy as far as I am concerned.

It's a little bothersome when you know someone who "knows" they're going to a better place than you when you both die, unless they convert you.

The only Christians who I have any ounce of respect for, are the ones who are in it for its moral values on earth, and not the supposed reward at the end.

I would wonder why christians think they need account for reactions to themselves, when they are said to be only accountable to their god.

When christians believe they need not think, but obey, there's a problem. When christians think that respect is not a moral value, there's a problem. When christians, and this is not an indictment of all, this is an address to those to which the behavior applies, believe they have a right to walk up to perfect strangers and ask them if they know jesus, there's a problem. Because one would think god, in the mortal coil of his second self called Yeshua, does not need to be sold door-to-door, or relegated to the equivalent of an info-mercial by money beggars in it's name, the likes of which Robert Tilton represents.

If god exists one would think it would be self-evident, in all of that which is created by god. One wouldn't imagine that god has a creed, or a dogma, that must be staunchly adhered to, so as to see that, in all that exists, so as to find ones self in it's grace for obeying mans admonition that declares what god looks like, how it's defined and so as to gain it's approval.

The christians that are annoying are those that present themselves as representatives of hypochristianity. Those that claim to be tolerant of other peoples viewpoints, only to say that from their own point of view, anyone that doesn't hold their faith is damned, so says the word of their faith. That attitude precludes tolerance from ever being sincere in it's true form. Instead it speaks to what is tolerated of others that hold different beliefs, in so much as it allows that christian to tell them, they're wrong!

I find it fascinating to no end, that the christian, some christians, not all christians, (so as to be clear so the christian defenders don't attack the lack of adjective because they cant attack people instead), sincerely believe that it is their sworn duty to prove god exists, while accepting from that god that they were born with the god given curse of a sinful nature. That god would require sinful people, to convert sinful people to believe in the god that created humans and cursed them to have a sinful nature, so that they, all their sinful life, have to strive to get back in it's grace, after they were removed from it because when god made them he didn't make them to have intelligence, until they were tempted to eat of a fruit, by gods nemesis, so as to be imbued with it. And that, was a sin!

But what I find most annoying about some christians, is that they believe they have a right to spread the good news, that they are ordained by god, to rule the world. And so they try, one knock at a time. One war at a time, one invasion at a time. I think christianity gets a bad rap because for over 2000 years, they earned it, because many, in the accounts that prove as much in bloody history as recent as that of this 21st century, were inspired to believe god is not about respect, but rather is about acquisition. And when one first believes god made everything, that's truly ignorant to believe anyone need strive to return to the only source, that bore them into being.

its the human right to speak as they wish, so yes, we have the right to spread the good news. by the way no one who truly excercised a christian way of life every invaded or started a war with anyone, so please chill with those comments. why do people find it appropriate to blame the decisions of mankind on a way of life that pushes something completely different?

we earned it? why should christians get a bad rap over something that they had nothing to do with?

your judgement of people now based on acts that had nothing to do with me or you is so ignorant.

So, look at it from another point of view. I have personally been attacked by 'Christians' because I didn't go to church right after listening to them tear to shreds the others in their congregation. And one of those judging the others was the priest. How can I have any respect for people like that? Now, I know not all Christians are like that, I have met many wonderful Christians who really believe and are genuinely good hearted. One of my best friend's is Christian, but what she doesn't know about the Bible blows my mind. I told her things that she had never heard of that were in the Bible. Now, I believe their was a person on Earth who we know as Jesus. I do not believe that he is/was God, but the son of God. I do not believe in the God that everyone else does because if he made this Earth along with the rest of the universe, then he would be concentrating all his attention here? why? That is just arrogant on our part. Maybe the Christians need more tolerance. Have you read This Present Darkness by Frank E. Pierette? In it, if you are any other belief system you are evil. Only the Christians are good. With that kind of attitude, well, can you blame others for getting their backs up? Maybe if everyone did a little research and actually learned about other religions then the discussions on here would be just that-discussions. It's when people will not bend and actually try to learn where the others are coming from that the insults start flying. I have read about Christianity, (different denominations), Buddhism, some Muslim (I'd really like more answers on that one, though), some Jewish books, some Witchcraft books, and even some satanic books (even I have to say they were bizarre). Now, if you look at most of them, they have similar beliefs, and most say to basically be nice to others and to have faith. What I can't fathom is the fighting for your religion and killing others in the name of God-don't point fingers, Christians did it too, look at the Crusades. IF there is a God, and he is loving, do any of you think that he will agree with killing his other children for having a different belief system? Do you think that by judging others so harshly that he will say 'that's my boy'. No, he will shake his head that no one learned the lessons he tried to teach us.

It is my personal belief that the Creator put Christians on this Earth as a trial for all mankind, If we can keep our sanity with the constant assualt of our senses by evangelizing Christians, we are deemed worthy of Heaven! LOL calm down Irish and IAmsSon, you know that I am kidding...Actually I agree with Goddess!

okay, if you follow the christian way of life, you dont kill people. its that simple, so if they kill people, theyre not practicing the true christian faith.

I think you would do well to read of the christian histories, before you dare say you have a right to speak and then imply others do not. As for the ignorance, this thread addresses a sect. Christianity. Therefore it is impersonal in nature, and as such my reply was as well. My judgment of certain christians, (Note the repeated reference in that regard in my reply), are based on personal experience, knowledge of the history and a reading comprehension that affords me the insight into those that claim to be christian in these forums, and represent what that means to them, as they address the diverse membership of this community. Therefore, it is not ignorant, for ignorant is defined as lack of knowledge and/or understanding. Consequently, the experience of being a member here for just a couple of years or so, precludes ignorance of this subject.

i think a big problem is that most people, myself included would rather eat our own faces than ask for help. i think thats alot of the problem iwth christians, is that they try to help, and this offends people.

I adore help.
Promising me the realization of someone else's fantasy if I convert to their way of thinking, is not "help."

i NEVER said other didnt have the right to speak, so throw that out.

im sorry, but i dont think its fair to judge christians by what people have done in the past. christianity is the world biggests scapegoat i feel. please you must admit to say that christians murder and kill is wrong. some may have done this in history under the guise of gods will, which is wrong, but its the same as saying all black people like fried chicken.

i find it very offensive that what i believe with every ounce of my being you call a fantasy.

Read history again. The crusades were a bloodbath. All because those 'heathens' had the Holy City. That self righteousness is what causes a lot of problems.


And what you call helping to others is interfering. Why does everyone have to believe the same thing you do? Why?

I could say I find it equally offensive that what I disbelieve with every ounce of my being you call an absolute truth. <3

Well then, it must really tick you off when someone refers to it as a myth.

But you see, we aren't responsible for pleasing you, as we that are not you, live our own life holding the same right to an opinion of yours, that you put out there for us to consider, as you choose to hold of us, and say as much in the process.

You are the sole responsible party, for creating a life you can live with.

so your saying that those who follow the christian lifestyle must kill all those who dont believe?

this is racism on a moral plane. this is starting to become very offensive to me. dont believe what i believe, fine, but this is going inthe wrong direction

i said I believe it. i didnt say you were wrong, just that i didnt agree. you may not believe what i do, but to call it a "fantasy" is very judgemental.

Ok, how about you read the post again. You don't want to see it from anyone else's point of view. Where did I say have to kill? where? I am saying it happened, and if you deny it happened, you are just ignorant of actual facts and that just proves GW, myself and MM right.

i never asked for anyone to please me. im just posting on a forum. but for you to say that what i believe is a fantasy, in essence, making me out to have mental issues.

I think that for some the motivation is simply to share something which they believe will be helpful to the person they seek to share their experiences with. But for others there is a need for affirmation of their own beliefs which can come only by convincing others that such beliefs are true. Then there are those who treat Christianity as some sort of elite club, and brandishing their faith is like brandishing a gold membership card. I had a friend a number of years ago who would talk about the sinful nature of human beings a lot, but add to each of his comments the fact that he was saved. It was like listening to someone brag about his latest sports car... look, it's so red and shiny, aren't you jealous... look, I'm saved and you're not, don't you feel "less than?"

As for why people become angered by it... I think it depends on the circumstance. If I'm having a chat with my sister and she tells me about some uplifting experience she's had, then I don't become angry and tell her to keep her Christian-ness to herself. But if she were to start telling me that her way was the only way, and that I need to alter my course if I'm to be saved, well I'd be telling little sis to mind her own business. It's no different to someone trying to tell you how to behave in your marriage, or how to bring up your children... it's not appropriate to tell another what, or how to believe.

When someone approaches me in the street I say "no thank you" and carry on walking. When someone comes to the door I say "no thank you" and close the door. It is an intrusion into my life, one which is not solicited, and one which is unwelcome. It's a waste of my time and theirs. I don't get angry... I've never shouted at a Christian (or anyone else who came to my door), but I will not allow a complete stranger to interrupt my life to discuss something which is highly important to them but has absolutely no importance to me. I respect their right to believe, but I do not respect their right to expand that belief in such a way as to become a part of my existence.

edited: to add tags, and because I'm stooopit!

I NEVER SAID IT DIDNT HAPPEN. you grouped all christians in a group of murders, basically implying a belief in christianity somehow approves such acts. thats like saying all germans are responsible for the holocaust.

I apologize if I genuinely offended you.
However, it really is a fantasy to me. As much a fantasy to me, as Pastafarian Heaven (the one with the beer volcanos and stripper factories) is to you.

the purpose of spreading the christian message is to give someone the opportunity, if they choose, to hear something that could help htme. if you choose not to hear it, people should respect that. but you dont judge everyone by the acts of a few. its like racism. some black people are violent, but to assume they all are is bogus. am i the only one who feels like i do?

No!? Hmmm, you just did it again. By telling someone they can stop saying that, they can throw that out, etc... you are saying they do not have a right to speak, that way.





The racial analogy is not applicable in this matter.

And you'll forgive me if I respectfully disagree. Christianity is the worlds largest sectarian practice. It is such because it sought to create the people of the world in it's image and likeness. And so, it went forth and committed to history, the effort to spread the good news through invasion, murder and occupation. The faithful today, that fall under that umbrella of any particular christian sect, exist as members of the most populace religion on Earth, because of the history that made it possible. A history that is writing itself anew, every single day. When missionaries enter third world countries and proceed to declare there is only one god, one way and one new cultural ideal to embrace. Consequently, cultural histories, religious practices (often outlawed because of the command/rule of the church in those areas, because the government that takes power is christian religious in nature), and even languages, are lost in the dust that settles after the conquest.
So, the reputation that exists that seems to light on all christians, is perhaps something that may be considered as a fair and equal measure to that evangelical zeal that made it possible to come to life, because history is what gives the life to a religions reputation. And when individuals, calling themselves christian, attempt to exhibit in the microcosm of their local community, that which occurs in the macrocosm of the world stage, as they seek to convert the world, by word, by force, etc... It furthers the reputation individually, because it's the people that give the religion it's life and it's image of what a christian is.

Which is why I said to you earlier. You are solely responsible for creating the (christian) life you can live with.

Your outrage at what people feel for the faith itself, means nothing to change the reputation born to it, before you were born to find it and call it your religion. How you live your interpretation, by example, of what a christian is, is what will then be responsible for either furthering that negative reputation of the whole. Because it was born of the individuals invested in the behaviors they claimed were christ inspired, or you will create your own example that a christian, as far as you are concerned, isn't anything like that at all. You are the example, if you are a christian, of what a christian looks like. Everything you say, everything you do, coming from that place, speaks to what a christian is. Remember that, when you seek to tell us what a chrisitian is not, as you go about it.

I didn't judge everyone. Read my post again.

See, you are looking for things to insult others about. I never grouped all Christians in a group of murderers. Again, look in the history books. They do not call them the catholics, they call them the Christians. You just want to jump all over anyone who doesn't agree with you. You are exactly the type of Christian that gives the rest of them a bad name. You want to twist things to make them fit your opinion.

i meant you can throw out the comment that i dont think people should have the righ to talk. if i didnt want to hear others points of view, why would i be on a forum posting?

you act as though christians put guns to peoples heads and force them to do their will. if christianity is so popular, its because people choose it.

i never ever said that plenty of people havent been slaughtered in the "name" of christianity. i said, if they were truly practicing a christian way of life, these acts would have never occured. yes, i am somewhat outraged at what people feel for the faith itself. ill be the first to attest to the things you say that have been associated with christians. i never denied their place in history. in a sense, i guess i would say that those people werent even christians at all, because to be a christian you would have to practice the practices of such. "christians" i would consider more of a flacid label then a way of life.

So is your veiw to all it "absolute truth" is aslo very judgemental .




Their complete and utter fear of death, their fear that life has no meaning other than living, their brainwashing from a child to beleive the bible is absolute and science is of the devil - The Dark Ages is named that for a reason . But primarily their fear of death and being wrong motivates them to try and convert others to their way of thinking, as well as their being ordered to preach the bible from their church. To sum it all up of what motivates christians to convert people - as I can't be bothered to type a whole page - Is that they're scared that they were made from 'nothing' that they were made from 'lesser beings', and so to quell their own fear and keep their feeling of being more than they actually are, they force others to beleive as they do to give their dreams of being special a kind of spine from others beleiving the same thing.

"There is nothing to fear but Fear itself" and that Fear is Death to many people, 'specially when that Death is the end of the line in 'living' terms (living and after life ect) - though your body 'lives on' by it's rotting and breakdown, supplying the Earth with it's renewability.

Before this turns into a flame fest please remember.....
No Christian here had any part in the crusades or inquisitions or even support such atrocities that happened in the past. There are evil minded people who hide behind the mask of righteousness whether that be Christian Muslim or Jew.
A reminder to all to not fall into the hate trap as hate is an emotion that is like a cancer to the soul.
Remember that we follow a path of a man that was a kind pacifist who had nothing but wisdom, love and peace to offer. He spoke against religious tyranny and violence and most of all against hatred itself.
Never lose sight of the human inside of us (the friend, son, daughter, mother or father) If you are not interested in saving your soul then at least work on keeping it a healthy part of who you are.

Irish

you came here saying negativities associated with christianity.

my point is that this isnt reflective of christianity. the evil acts described has nothing to do with this way of life.

i live this way of life, so surely you understand how associating that with those things would offend me.

listen, in my opinion, anyone with the label "christian", who doesnt practice the way of life that the label is based on, wouldnt be considered a christian in the first place.

And this I find beautiful. Humans are a part of the earth, no matter how adamantly they wish to be "above."

its not about being "above" it, but simply to not limit ones existence merely to it.

And what way of life would that be? There are so many versions of it that how can you tell which is the "true" Christian and which is just the schmoe calling himself a Christian...especially since most Christians don't seem to practice what Jesus supposedly taught...

Indeed! I myself am in huge moral support of our Space Programs.

Unfortunately, you cannot change what people will call themselves. If you are being totally honest, then more Christians need to think the same way. But, let's get to reality here, I am sure that you have run into people who call themselves Christians and don't live by what a Christian should be. Those are the ones, like I said ruin it for the real believers. But, you need to also read what is being said without so much hostility also. If you wanted to say 'yes, there were atrocities in history, but not by my definition of Christians' then I would agree with you. But to get mad that I called Christians in history Christians, well what can I say about that, other than every history book is wrong, in your opinion?

WHAT???? it's not real? *sob* I was looking forward to those factories.




I would take my information to the proper people and also make sure that I know for a fact and am able to prove that I have the cure for cancer. Instead of saying I have a cure for cancer when I cant be really sure myself. I have to know and be able to prove I have the cure for cancer and not just believe and have faith that I do. I don't mind people spreading the good word but I don't like the word being pushed on me if I don't accept it.




It only annoys me when it is forced on me when I don't not wish to hear it. And it angers me when SOME of the one's who wish to spread the word just want to say what the want to say then put their fingers in there ears and blank out what the other person has to say.



It's not that it is seen as a threat it is seen as a insult well to me anyway.

i did say that

But, it was how you said it. You attacked me for what I said. That is not practicing what you preach. I understand that you will get a little hot under the collar for feeling that you always have to defend your beliefs, but so do others. I was just answering the question of why there are some people who have negative views of Christians. I did not write history. Just the same as you should not feel any repercussions from what other Christians have done that was insulting or just plain mean to others.

And so, if you said the same thing I said, maybe you need to look again at some of the posts. Maybe there was more agreement with your idea of Christians than you originally thought.

listen, all i said was to not group all christians together. dont judge me by the acts of some. thats how i took your comments. if your going to talk about christianity and thats the first thing you talk about, yes, that gets me a little angry. i wouldnt call that an attack on you though.

And there it is. You see, that is what is so annoying about some christians.

I look through this and really can see what I think are two major issues. First, is a Christian wrong for evangelising to a non-Christian? Is this spreading the good word, or forcing a belief on someone? I think the act itself is generally a good thing, but unfortunately the vast majority of Christians do tend to force their beliefs on others (even other Christians). Many times, it kind of becomes like being in an elite club that all too often looks down on anyone that isn't in it.

But, lets not throw out the baby in the bathwater though. There are many that truly have the best of intentions and only want to spread what they feel is the only path to salvation. If you think what you are doing is right and it is the only way to save someone from eternal damnation, is it wrong to tell you beliefs to someone else? You really can't blame the Christian, because (if their reasons are pure) they are only meaning good. You really can't blame the non-Christian, because having someone else think that you are living your life incorrectly and you have to have their help could very well be taken as insulting.

In these situations the best thing to do is for both sides to basically call "no harm no foul", but most people can not or will not take this kind of thing personally. What we, the open-minded Christians or the tolerant non-Christians, all have to suffer for the extremly loud people that are either the crowing self-righteous Super Christian or the pretentious psuedoenlightened Christian Haters.

This kind of brings me to my second point. The other major issue is of course intolerance. We all have it toward somebody, it's just really a matter of whom. Even though Christianity is not the most prevelant religion on the planet, it probably is on the internet or on these forums. Now, there may be more non-Christians on these forums than there are Christians, but I'd wager there are more Christians than any SINGLE other belief or non-belief. Unfortunately what this does, is it tends to polarize everyone into two categories: Christian and Non-Christians. Christians feel persecuted and strike out toward non-Christians in general, and non-Christians (Buddists, Musulims, atheist, agnostics, or whatever) tend to all strike out and the single biggest group that is of opposing beliefs.

It's hard not to take it personally, but if it wasn't the Christians, it would be who ever was currently the religious equivalent of "The Man". We all think we are right, and I will guarantee you that most of us are wrong. We should all be quick to listen, slow to speak, and even slower to judge, but easier said than done I suppose. Let's just agree to respect each others ideas on religion, but feel free to persecute the occasional *$$holes as individuals and not as representatives of a group.....

I admit that I haven't read much besides the OP, but I think the main reason why a Christian would want to share his (or her) faith with somebody else comes mostly from the fact that they have found in the belief something that gives them so much joy, so much peace, that the only thing they want is share it with others so these stranger can also find what they found.

Most of the Christian anyways

Not everyone is capable of representing the faith they adhere to. One of the things that some Christians don't seem to consider is the possibility that they do more damage than good by attempting to spread the word and demonstrate the validity of their chosen path. For a while now my sister has been reading what's written on this forum, by Christians, and this experience alone has initiated a personal examination of the faith she has held to since she was a child. The more she's read, the more she's begun to drift away from her faith. A change is in the air, and it will be largely due to what she has been reading here. A lifetime of living with me, the Deist, and my mother, the Atheist, has done nothing to alter her faith and we have never tried to impact upon it, and in the space of a few months she had dissected her belief system due to dialogues put forth here and has come to question everything she believed.

I find that rather ironic.

Let us not forget that this kind of atrocity perpetuated by "well meaning Christians" did not happen in the far past. So please do not think that in the modern era that Christian have been sweet, nice and the fluffy bunny type, because believe me they have not. How many countless cultures were wiped out and are continued to be wiped out in the name of missionary work?
Up and until the Fifties in some parts of Latin America especially Peru, the church was using Native peoples as slave labor called the Mita. It basically said you owed the church for saving your soul and in return you had to work for the church to "repay the debt". That to me is an unbroken line from the beginning of the church until now of a cultural genocide (along with actual genocide) of peoples ability to believe in their own faith. How much have we lost? It is immesurable, from the Mayan Codexes burned for being heathen to the vast cultural knowledge around the world destroyed all in the name of "spreading the faith". And so don't think that modern Christians aren't responsible for the continuation of these kinds of acts because they are still going on.

The problem that some see with some "Christians" is that they will automatically start spouting off about their religion without being asked to share it.This is annoying,it's rude,and it's completely uncalled for.Remember,one's religion should always be kept as a personal belief,shared with others who believe in the same religion.There is no call for anyone to walk up to a person who they do not know and automatically start attempting to save them from themselves.Now...just because you walk up and ask someone if they are Christian,if they reply "No...",how do you know that they hadn't already heard about God and Jesus and decided that the belief system just wasn't for them? How do you know they weren't already Christians at one point in their lives who changed their minds at some point? You don't...so when you start spouting religion to them many will end up getting offended.

Too...why is it that some Christians feel that it is their duty to save everyone else? Who appointed you to do so? Do you not think that if someone is interested in your belief that they will not ask you...or show up at a church in order to find out about it?

Over the years,my personal experiences have shown me that what may work for one person may not work for another.We are all different...and we all make our choices on what we find to work for ourselves.Just because some form of Christianity may work for you doesn't mean that it will work for everyone else.You can even see evidence of this when you look at all of the different sects of Christianity.If Christians can't even agree which version is the correct one...why should the rest of us be so willing to join up?

Face it...no one should ever consider themselves to be the "appointed" saviors of everyone else.Some of us would prefer to be left alone with our own beliefs (or lack thereof),since some of us have found that Christianity doesn't work for us.

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Now for a few things from the original post:



I can understand that you'd prefer to have friends that believe like you do...but the fact remains that you can still be friends with those who believe differently.I think the differences between us are what really adds spice to what would be an otherwise bland and boring life.



Hmm...this makes it sound as if Christians are extremely deluded and conceited...as well as extremely afraid of death.



Sorry...but I think you made a slight mistake here.Those who do not believe in Christianity do not see hell as a "threat" to those of us who do not believe.We see it more as a threat to those who do believe.It's something used to scare believers into staying on the "right path".Again,sorry....but if your belief system has to use a concept of a torturous place as an "or else"...then the belief system must be lacking the proper incentive to keep it's followers on the correct path.This is my own opinion,of course,and you are more than welcome to disagree...but this is how I see it.

Yea, cuz a lot of us don't believe hell exists...so it's pointless using it like some kinnd of scare tatic

What?

To be told to take care of something you may well not even believe exists.

I believe I have a soul, but I'm not going to go about telling people to take care of theirs. It's presumptuous.

So, it's presumptuous to speak from my belief structure in any way, shape, or form? If you sneeze and I say, "God bless you!" That's annoying?

Wow, and Christians are supposed to be thin-skinned.