Thank you for answering Dear Mr Randi I completed your application for your challenge along with all requirements letter notarized with letter of conformation from a Dr John Burke with his license number over a month ago how long does it take before your organization responds sorry about this part before I start to expose your foundation as a fake maybe I should hear back from you I am frustrated for I have sent out so many letters to Paranormal everything, Scientists, meta physical anything, professors, editors of all skeptic Magazines with no response

Thank you

Lance katcher
James Randi <randi@randi.org> wrote: So, what’s your problem…?


it also seems I can not join thier forum I tried and they suspended it

HUH?

Much to my surprise, I've failed to find much evidence that Mr. Randi has a sense of humor. I don't mind reading his work, but I'd avoid him personally. No matter how you feel about claims of the paranormal, I don't think any association with Randi is going to do a thing for you.

Does this have a meaning or purpose behind it? If so I recommend you giving further details.

I think he means to say that Randi's famous offer is insincere, which is probably true. I'm having trouble caring about it these days. Very much a dead issue.

Yeah, even if the challenge was met and accomplished, I do not feel the money would be payed.

This is where i can say be skeptical of the skeptic lol

Lack of evidence on these contraversial subjects is enough said.

Randi just likes being famous. I don't consider myself extremely believing or skeptical, but this guy is about as fraudish as Sylvia Brown. They both give me the willys.

Add to the above that he is also "old" and a tad "bitter" - truly a sad individual. Yes the $1,000,000.00 has so much fine print to it - that it simply isn't worth. He actually did ignore two people a number of years back that could back up their claim. One was a Remote Viewer - who had proved himself on public TV and other public sources. Funny thing was everyone knew then that Randi would ignore this one - other wise he would be out a million bucks.

Hi everybody it's Lance I just recived a email sayng they never recieved my application I have replied back with the tracking # from fedral Express
I Am working on a web site for the pictures will have it ready by the end of day tommorow
thanks for the feedback

I'm interested to see it.

what are the names of this remote viewer and the other guy?

james randi is a good man because he gets rid of all the money deceiving pricks who hunger on naive good will people. watch some of his videos on debunking psychics, they are crediable.

http://youtube.com/results?search_type=sea...arch_category=0

I agree that he does help weed out the hoaxes.... But one doesn't need a $1,000,000.00 to do that. Heck I have #300.00 on the table and have accomplished that.

The last I heard,Randi had changed the challenge so that he could concentrate only upon those "famous" people such as Sylvia Browne.He just wants to get in one really big debunking before he croaks.

Randi's methods should always be looked at as suspect,since he himself claims that he "has an out" (his own words),and that he has claimed to be a fraud as well.Therefore,his whole challenge is likely to be rigged so that he'll go to his deathbed without anyone ever having won the challenge.I think he's just after more fame,since he's been attempting to follow in the footsteps of Houdini.

The terms of Randi's challenge are readily available through a link on his website. It does require that a claimant be a "person of note" or some such. It also explains that by this they mean that the person must have been featured in some media. IOW, you don't have to be a HUGE fraud, like Sylvia Browne, to get Randi to expose you as a con artist.

Randi has not put up a million dollars of his own money. The reward is underwritten (of course) by a couple of insurance companies.
Any claim that Randi, or his organization, would be "out a million bucks" if someone were to win is just based on pure, unadulterated ignorance.

Harte

I don't understand why there is animosity towards Randi at all....$1,000,000 is obviously a LOT of money, and safeguards have to be established to ensure a fair test for BOTH sides. Yet, no one has been able to get the money....I haven't seen any evidence where at the last minute Randi's group says' "OH, that was fantastically wierd, but if you would have read the fine print....".


Also, if anyone thinks they have been shortchanged, provide the evidence to us, and change our minds on it.

Personally, that's my impression also. He used to be a hero of mine, but these days, he seems tired, cranky, confused, mean, and out of touch. No point in messing with the poor guy. Then of course some newly-minted "skeptic" brings up the Randi challenge as if it proves anything, and there we go again. Anyway, I can't get riled up about it anymore. It's just sad.

Just goes to show that hero worship isn't worth a thing, whether its object is Uri geller or James Randi.




Yeah, and the mil is in a trust, so it's not like it's his anyway. He just doesn't want egg on his face. He'd still be my hero if he took the attitude that he'd be overjoyed to be proven wrong. Oh well.

I personally would be VERY over joyed if someone actually took the $300.00 Pin/Psi Wheel challenge and did it. It would be win-win all the way around....

Yes, which is why you're worth talking to.

Would be a lot more challenge if anyone succeeds in proving without a single doubt that Randi has humor. I would also enjoy all the debunking of those claims that would follow...

Thanks you!!

I think the thing with Randi is, like others have mentioned, that he has been at this a little too long. He has been offering a good deal of money since 1964 and he was debunking supposed phenomena before that I do believe. That is the problem. He has been doing this for over 40 years. He has seen it all. Seen the actual frauds stealing peoples money. Honest people that really believe they have these powers. Religious fanatics. All of those types of people and more. Over and over. Can you blame him for becoming jaded and bitter? You deal with low lives that steal money from gullible people. You see honest people that do not apply logic, reason or rational thought to their own lives. Then you have the people believing in some invisible being, horribly edited holy books etc.(Pardon the generalizations about religion but bear with me)

Do you blame him for perhaps losing hope with humanity? For becoming bitter and generalizing anyone that believes in this stuff in one form or another? For perhaps becoming a little angry when you come across this stuff? You have seen it all for many years and the claims still keep coming. The same claims and the same type of people. It is very difficult to remain positive when you have chosen the road of the die hard skeptic. To not be harsh when you attempt to discuss these things with a "believer". (And yes I know my posts get a little harsh at times. It happens) To still hold out hope of two things. One is that someone will eventually come forward and show that even the most mild ability is real and does exist. Two is that somehow, someway, eventually people will stop believing in this stuff. Both as the fraud and as being victims shall we call them?

Watch the older videos of him on Youtube. Once upon a time he had the spark. He was/is a showman. Watch the videos. He had an incredible sense of humor and just a way of getting his points across. He had that wit, energy and humor all rolled up into one. With out these things I'm sure he could not have been going as long as he has. Based on what Ive seen there was a time he hoped someone would step up and prove that their claim was real. So after all these years he has finally lost some of that spark. He has grown tired of it all. This is probably why he only wants to deal with people of note now. He is putting what is left of his energy where it can make the most difference. Showing that these frauds are just that and to save innocent people from losing money.

I really think Randi has done a pretty good job all in all. I hope he continues to run his challenge for some time and that someone steps up to continue his type of work after he retires. Is he perfect? No of course not. Is the famous challenge that people (including myself) toss out there perfect? Well there are those that think it is, some think it is totally rigged and those(like me) that think it would work well enough. Someone proving some paranormal power/ability through one of these challenges (either Randis or Jjs for instance) will open up a whole lot of doors. People will start to think and they will be some of the most important people, the scientists. Those darn scientists who might just be able to figure out how it works and just maybe make some life changing discoveries. Maybe it really will be something anyone could learn like many believers claim. Maybe the line between believers and skeptics wouldn't be so thin and rigged with explosives. Maybe there wouldn't be a line at all.

The tests might not be perfect but they can serve their purpose.

excellent.