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mako
Okay, Irish, here is one I found on another website. It is by a poster with the handle DarthOkkata and is rather strange/interesting/thought provoking:

I've thought of an interesting question.

What if God, is dead?

Yes, our creator, tormentor/saviour, has bit the big one.

Would we notice?

One would think that there would be considerably less 'hand of god' slayings, no more heartfelt letters [that are really thinly veiled threats], and absolutely no hard evidence of any more miricles ever. Can you imagine such a world?

How long would we last without god? What's he saving/protecting us from in the huge void of nothing? Certainly not asteroids. http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news017.html

Gama Explosions, black holes, and other nasty gas clouds could end us all at any given moment.

What exactly does 'God' do these days? He certainly had time for face to face talks before.

He's dead maybe?

What if Jesus, was just God's way of commiting suicide, and it worked?

What would the world be like now, I wonder...

He's either dead, doesn't exist, or he's a giant farming ameboid predator. Yeah, the light is eternal paradise...come on in buddy.

Do we want to discuss this one? Can we do it in a civil manner? yes.gif
GoddessWhispers
Fascinating article. How would we know, indeed. Jesus was gods way of committing suicide. Now that's a new twist.

I would dare say we don't know god exists as it is. All that affirms that as so, is people declaring such is the case. They write books, claim it's gods authoritative word as the one and only evidence, in light of the history that contains far older scriptural accounts that profess their truth as gods word as well. Then it becomes a sort of battle of the tribes, for supremacy as to who's god is true or real. And it's all fought on the mortal conscious playing field. With nary any input from this deity they speak for, at all. Everything that exists is said to be proof of god. No, that's supposition based on the initial affirmation there is such a thing as god, that came before all that we know to exist. It is not, nor shall it ever constitute proof that man, in it's limited consciousness, can ever articulate in human terms, what something as powerful as that what is credited with being the originator of all existence, can fathom. Evidence of this is that virtually every god has human characteristics. Because that's what makes it something humans can identify with so as to feel it does hold their best interest at heart, because it can relate on their level. When really, people made those god images, so they could relate to being alive as something more than this mere mortal state of awareness, that is so obviously flawed, that it believes first that it can claim it knows absolutely, not only that there is a god, but exactly what it means for that to then be god. And then, what it means to be a human that rightly worships this god. And that ego, makes for all the holy wars that come after, all the separatist thinking that divides the human community, into states of loyalty for a concept.

Amazing! That a concept, can actually divide real life, because some people believe it is necessary to hold one faith, forsaking all others in matters of respect as fellow human beings, just so as to feel singularly secure, they're living this life in the right way and according to the "rules" that were made by other people, long before they were born. I think institutionalized loyalties are what is responsible for having fractured the human community, by free will alone in calling ones self loyal to a concept, rather than to a sense of self, so as to achieve the paradise religions promise after this living is done. How naive, how gullible and how tragically unfortunate for the future, if the past and present is any indicator of what awaits, if we don't wake up. no.gif
Chokmah
Well, if you were all-knowing, immortal, all powerful and you had created life on every habitable planet. Then had billions upon billions of years to just... float around and check on your creations, then eventually god would realise that he has accomplished all he can, a single functual all-knowing entity would know that his existance is no longer needed thus he is now ultimately pointless and commit suidcide as it's the only thing that'd make sense. I mean, it already seeded life from itself all over the universe, played a kind of sim-game and watched it's own little selves grow and evolve on planets, and maybe one day they too would become gods, create their own universes and seed life in it - perhaps god did the exact same thing. Eventually god would have evolved so much that suicide was the next step in it's evolutionary line - being immortal, death and fear would be nothing, so suicide would be as much fun as it is for us not to die.

Okay, Hypothetical over... He'd have to have existed outside mans ego and mind for him to die and obviously to have actually lived.
lil gremlin
reminds me of Thus Spake Zarathustra....

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/n/nie...friedrich/n67a/

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GoddessWhispers
Ah thank you for posting that link. original.gif I have the book in my library, but not on my computer. Excellent. thumbsup.gif
MissMelsWell
Nope, God isn't dead... I spoke with him last night, he's doin' good, sends his love, and asks you to please spay and neuter your pets... wait... nevermind, that was Bob Barker.

Tangerine Sheri
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Fascinating article. How would we know, indeed. Jesus was gods way of committing suicide. Now that's a new twist.

I would dare say we don't know god exists as it is. All that affirms that as so, is people declaring such is the case. They write books, claim it's gods authoritative word as the one and only evidence, in light of the history that contains far older scriptural accounts that profess their truth as gods word as well. Then it becomes a sort of battle of the tribes, for supremacy as to who's god is true or real. And it's all fought on the mortal conscious playing field. With nary any input from this deity they speak for, at all. Everything that exists is said to be proof of god. No, that's supposition based on the initial affirmation there is such a thing as god, that came before all that we know to exist. It is not, nor shall it ever constitute proof that man, in it's limited consciousness, can ever articulate in human terms, what something as powerful as that what is credited with being the originator of all existence, can fathom. Evidence of this is that virtually every god has human characteristics. Because that's what makes it something humans can identify with so as to feel it does hold their best interest at heart, because it can relate on their level. When really, people made those god images, so they could relate to being alive as something more than this mere mortal state of awareness, that is so obviously flawed, that it believes first that it can claim it knows absolutely, not only that there is a god, but exactly what it means for that to then be god. And then, what it means to be a human that rightly worships this god. And that ego, makes for all the holy wars that come after, all the separatist thinking that divides the human community, into states of loyalty for a concept.

Amazing! That a concept, can actually divide real life, because some people believe it is necessary to hold one faith, forsaking all others in matters of respect as fellow human beings, just so as to feel singularly secure, they're living this life in the right way and according to the "rules" that were made by other people, long before they were born. I think institutionalized loyalties are what is responsible for having fractured the human community, by free will alone in calling ones self loyal to a concept, rather than to a sense of self, so as to achieve the paradise religions promise after this living is done. How naive, how gullible and how tragically unfortunate for the future, if the past and present is any indicator of what awaits, if we don't wake up. no.gif

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