do u believe that consciousness survives death?

if yes: you believe in remote viewing and things like the sixth sense...

if no: then all talk about channeling and automatic writing is bull...

what ur take and why

I'm not following your reasoning and logic here - if you believe that consciousness survives death then you automatically believe in remote viewing & the 6th sense?

That doesn't necessarily follow.

The 6th sense may be just our minds working on some level that we consciously don't appreciate, and it appears that something mystical is going on. Might have nothing to do with existential questions.

As for remote viewing, that's another subject entirely.

Can you explain, please?

ok then, scratch all that.. "Does Consciousness survive death"?

To me, the evidence overwhelmingly indicates "yes."

Personally, I've been inclined to think "no," but damned old reality doesn't seem to give a rat's behind what I think.

I think so. So many people have death experiences, I can't see any reason to suppose they weren't true just because the dying was medically brought back and it's technically only near death experiences. Why quibble?

Mind is what the brain does.
Consciousness is what the mind does.

Consciousness can survive the body only to the degree that it has set up to do so. It is most tenuous and decays rapidly. It loses its integrity upon death in any case.

as a human being i would think yes. But thinking logically, no. Why? Well, if "something" survives then it has to have a physical presence when in the body and after. Now, since all of your memories are stored in you brain, and thoughs memories make you "you". And when you die ur brain is still there...... that "thing" leaving your body would not really be you. Next, There is no evidance of any sort of "presance" in the human body. Thirdly, your brain cells house "you". It does this by using electricity and chemicals. All of these processes follow logical order.... All due to atomic rules (charges etc) And atoms are ruled by how sub-atomic particles behave. All of these processes make perfect sense if understood, there is no need for some magical force.

The way I see it, humans are somewhat immature personally. We want to see things the way we do. We lie to ourselves to fulffil our needs, be it life after death or something good happening to you in a certain situation. It is hard for humans to see many things, we know that everything is made out of atoms etc. but we still think/act as if its not. When we did something wrong and the your waiting on the bus station for a long time, you may think you are being punished or something. But if you had a sattelite overhead you would see that the bus is coming. It is all mental. And to take this further, there are other people on that bus. It isn't teleporting around. The world isn't circling around you. But people act like it. We must stop looking at the world through how we want to see it. But logically. A little of topic but i just had to get that out. Sorry if I insulted anyone. I think I should start another thread with this. Maybe when I get a good argument. Maybe someone else could start it.


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Is mind what the brain does? Or is brain activity a reflection of what the spirit does?

Imagine giving someone an electric shock on their hand, causing a reflex action. Should we suppose that all movements of the hands are caused by reflex actions because we can trigger a reflex and detect bio-electrical activity heading to the muscles? What if hand/brain is a similar relationship to brain/spirit?



That seems to be more an assumption of fact than a conclusion of logic?

for something to exist it needs to have mass..... or negative mass...........



is that wt ur saying or am i way off???

I was saying it sounds like you're assuming that the conciousness needs to have physical mass in order to exist. Can you be sure that's a safe assumption?

Is it that consciousness survives death or is it that our idea of death isn't correct.

I would have to say yes. Why? Well, there is no need for conciousness outside of normal brain cell functions. And since brain cells (brain) has mass..... Plus, if something doesn't have mass its just mental. Look at space, its nothing but our mental view thinks of it as "something".

How do you know space is nothing? All those little stars and planets could be atoms in something much bigger

"Empty space" is definitely a "something!"

#1 An atom has LOTS of empty space in it
#2 Nothing is only figuratively speaking something. Unless quantum mechanics are really right and there are tons of wormholes, virtual particles etc popping up everywere.............. but then alll of our books must be re-written..............

Anyways, how can nothing be something? If it was something then it wouldn't be nothing. So nothing is not something or we wouldn't be discussing if nothing was something................... lol............ I think my brain is about to explode...

If a soul is generally thought to be the non-physical aspect of a living entity, it might be a bit of a stretch trying to detect it's physical aspects?

Will bike week in Laconia N.H. be without preciptated voilence from the security force's involved?

How many negative aspect's of human behavior they themselves will create from the gathering?

Depend's on those who control the community, and the direction or lack of it they want.

These are ultimate question's to me, as bike week start's today, and lucky me get's to observe the whole human behavior end of it all.

Wish me luck!

Well no wonder you're confused! We said that empty space is something, not that nothing is something. Nothing isn't something! Nothing is everything. See? And the sound of your brain exploding is Enlightenment.

Yes, unless we manage to redefine "physical" to include a lot more of the real universe than we understand today. But as it stands, yes.