The world's two leading metaphysical schools have formed an alliance to teach real world Magick for the 21st century. This is an important step forward for the new Renaissance in magickal thought that is emerging globally.

Hoopeston, Il (PRWEB) June 6th, 2007 -- The Grey School of Wizardry and Witch School International are now working cooperatively to create the largest and best magickal education system in the world. The Internet has enabled a growing number of aspiring Wizards of all ages to meet with teachers of the ancient wisdom and has rekindled an interest in these legendary skills.

Grey School of California (www.greyschool.com), led by Headmaster Oberon Zell-Ravenheart, the most famous Wizard living today, is a non-profit educational institution not associated with any religion, as Wizardry is a secular pursuit, like Science or Philosophy. The Grey School offers training in the esoteric arts through Zell-Ravenheart's popular books (Grimoire for the Apprentice Wizard; Companion for the Apprentice Wizard--New Page 2004; 2006) and over 200 online classes.

Witch School International (www.witchschool.com), a leading seminary for Wicca and Magickal studies, is training thousands of people in the sacred arts and practices of Witchcraft. They offer a wide range of courses, taught by live mentors, chatrooms, video classes, and other educational resources on- and off-line.

The alliance of these two popular teaching sites to act cooperatively will expand and improve access to magickal education worldwide. Through sharing resources and accrediting some of each other's classes, the Grey School and Witch School will greatly expand educational services to students, with over 350 available classes. This alliance allows each school to focus on their respective specialties, offering even more knowledge and wisdom for students, now and in the future.

Other cooperative projects under discussion include; guest teacher programs, shared live events, hosting tournaments of magick, and development of online video classes. Both schools will focus on their core specialty to provide the very best in magickal education for students. This alliance creates the most complete education in Magick available anywhere today and assures that unknown and mysterious arts will be taught for generations to come

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Well that's good news. We have a similar organization around here that comes and goes depending on how much money is coming in to support it's existence. It would be great if some Wiccans were making some good money to help donate for the cause.

I remember my wiccan friends having a subscription to Oberon 's magazine, "Green Egg". This was well before he adopted the name "Ravenheart". He has money in his own right to invest so as to insure the school succeeds, I think. It's getting the public attention and the enrollment, and then growing from that to further their mission. I think it's a great idea and one that O. wouldn't have undertaken had he not figured out all the particulars well ahead of time. He has a science background, so planning and such, is his nature.

And he loves the goddess and the god, so this is a project that I think will enjoy great success, if his energy behind it has anything to say about that. Green Egg was an excellent publication. The artwork was what caught my eye. The staff would promote pagan artists in every issue, so as to give them exposure to the pagan community and so that the pagan community would realize there was a great deal more resources than they might have initially thought available to them, when Green Egg began, in 1968.
And now, in March of this year, Green Egg reappeared. (Published by CAW ~ Church of All Worlds) , so I think this is just the beginning, with the wizard and witch school and GE back in print.

This is wonderful! It's a pity there aren't more organisations liek this popping up globally.

I know this is serious and real, so no offense.....

..but.... worldwide witches? wizards? RAVENheart??? It all sounds too Harry Potter-ish to me.

Honestly, I don't mean to sound sarcastic. All those nutjobs out there that are up in arms abt the whole Harry Potter series could have a field day with this info....

Me? I wouldn't say anything mean and sarcastic for real.....but I could get into a fit of giggles and nominate the name of the new worlwide school as "Hogwarts"

*running away swifty whilst cackling uncontrollably*

I'm glad to hear of the alliance.

Peace,

RadicalGnostic

As am I . It's a refreshing option afforded a country assured freedom of religion. And it's a bold move to reach out and take one's rightful place, as they are entitled , in light of that.

Freedom of Religion is ok and all but shouldn't there be a system in place preventing people from just making up religions like scientology and wicca?

It's a shame that while the enemies of the Kingdom gather and unite we Christians in the Body are so divided and separated. To them I say good luck, at least they can try to do better for the people. Which is more than I can say for my religious group...

Nice to see you've been indoctrinated into the "Christians suck" club. Please move along to receive your complimentary pink unicorn pin and tote-bag.

Eh, I don't like to say that my people suck, but I do think they're a pitiful shame. Good thing The Agency is working hard to change that. Hopefully we can make a global impact on the world's Christian within the next three or four years.


Ops Via Verum Vita Nostrum Deus,
COI.

Ravenheart has been about longer then the Harry Potter series So no.. this has nothing to do with that at all. *sighs and shakes her head*


However, I'm REALLY glad to see this happeneing. It is about time some sort of good orginization atleast for schools happened in the pagan community!

Er... How are we "enemies" of any kingdom? We;re not waging war against christians.. we're taking back the pagan faiths, and all that rot. ;P

Just be happy in your Lord.. serve him the best you can... Worry not what others do. We have our own path.. you have yours. Why should we be "enemies"?

Haha, by enemies I mean people who are not on God's side. If your not for him your against him. There is no fence. However, we can exist peacefully with our enemies for now. After all, we Christians are only guests here.

and... somepeople wonder why people get all offended and rail against some people here.. >.>

Just because we don't believe in your god.. that does not make us your enemies in any sence.

hosting tournaments of magick? they mean the card game right??

if they have real magick powers this tournament could be sold on pay per view and make enough money to fund the school for 10 years...and dont you have to be able to perform actual magick to teach it,,,or is really like tho old saying thos who can do and those who cant teach

What are you...the God Police? This isn't a football game Child...it isn't Us against Them.

People-wise it isn't..."For we fight not against flesh and blood but against the powers and principalities of this world." They are our fleshly bretheren, but they invoke that which we are at war against. Therefore they have joined the enemies of God...it doesn't fly.

The Enemies of God...defined by you as anyone who wants to make spells and such. Which commandment are you breaking by worshiping Jesus? That would be the one which says...Thou shalt have no other God's before me. Now, if God is the same yesterday, today, and forever...yesterday he said 'Thou shalt have no other God's before me', today you say everything in the name of Jesus...you pray to Jesus, you worship Jesus...Jesus was a man. You are worshiping a man and therefore breaking one of the Ten Commandments. Which commandment is it that says Thou shalt not cast a spell? Not one of the Ten. Judge not Child...I think that is what Jesus said.

Jesus is God, Jesus is the Messiah, he is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is God of all Creation...pure and simple.

He was born from the womb of a woman was he not? Then he was a man. Interesting that when Pontius Pilate asked Jesus point blank: Are you the Son of God? Jesus answered: I am the son of Man.

I would dare say the enemies of god are those that believe there is only one way to see god, one way to live a life in dedicated service to the spirit of god they feel speak to them inside their heart and those that compromise the message of the christ that says the kingdom (of god) shall be found within.

Thinking one is at war, with all the world, as a religion that is one of the youngest on Earth, bearing a messiah that is antedated by many other savior gods, is what makes this world divisive, and that faith exlclusivist and intolerant. And that is what makes war, in the mind of the believer, living on a planet inhabited by billions of souls, when one feels under siege because there are then billions of possibilities alive that know god/dess differently.

You are not at war with a single soul, save yourself. As one that thinks war is necessary in the domain of god, so as to establish his presence in a world, of billions that see god uniquely in their own way, or not at all, as in Atheists that are alive here too. And if god is what leads you to believe there is only one vision of that immense all power, then it's not god that you worship, but the myths that lead you to believe that way. If I prayed, I'd pray for you. Because thinking it's a war is what gives people so much to pray about.

Oh really?








In John it's a little more detailed, and the words "Son of" aren't used. Pilate never asked Jesus if he was the Son of God, so I thought you were referencing to the Sanhedrin, however, Pilate did ask "Are you think King of the Jews?" In each book of the Gospels Christ says "It is as you say."

Whatever...I'm not really interested in playing The Bible Says with you. The point I was trying to make is that when you view other people as 'the enemy'...you isolate them into a defensive posture...what other posture can there be for Enemies? But you go ahead and live your life that way...creating enemies where there are none...and you will surely become a most powerful witness....of something...

I don't believe people are my enemies, it's the gods that people serve that are my enemies . I love all people, I don't love all gods.

My gods aint yours, or your god's enemies either...

but congratsulations for proving a point of mine made a while back. About how some christians just love stirring up issues when they're is none. There was no reason to come into this thread and blasting pagans and calling us enemies like there's some huge war...

Reality check.. the only ones who are whipping up this "war" crap are people like you.

Hmmm...I thought there was only one God.

No comment.

How could anyone have said that better?

I'm sure you don't.. really.. I believe that you just don't want to regail us with this war nonsence again.


Seriously though... The only person here that's been claiming to be some kind of Us angainst Them thing is you...

It's pointless to banter on about it...sheesh can't a guy have some fun? Chillax SC, drink a few bottles of rum. Let loose and be merry

*builds a fence*

Rev's optimistic that's going to protect him. ~Begins to burrow underground~

Incoming firebrand Kitty! Warning, warning! ~flails arms~

Who says the fence is to protect me?

*sits on revs fence*


*takes a swig of rum then yeowls at the moon*

X)

I thought you were building a barricade for when big kitty and CoI spar. My mistake. ~looks at SC on fence~ Now that's a sight you don't often see, when you're sober.

Simply stunning. I think now is a wonderful time for me to flip-flop.

People who imply there is a "war" of any type going on, or implying that anyone that does not worship the same god in the same way as them is the "enemy", is a perfect example of all that is wrong with Christianity. Much like those folks who revel in the iconic White Knight on horseback, wielding his sword and chopping heads in the name of God.

This is the fuel that feeds the fire of hate and anti-Christian sentiment, and make acceptance of "alternative" faiths and worshiping so attractive to Christians who are tired of the hate, intolerance, contradictions, and down-right duplicity of people who claim to lead Christians to some glorious time and place, the whole while lining their pockets with the cash of the fooled, reveling in the pornographic lifestyles they preach against on a daily basis.

To be honest, the schools that this thread are about look pretty hokie to me. I'm not sure why they would feel the need to form a co-op unless it was to solidify their alignment as anti-Christian in some sense (meaning not AGAINST Christianity or opposed to it, but "other than" Christian). Personally, I like the idea of these "schools" or subjects being offered as areas of study set in a larger framework of religious studies. For example, if the Wizard school (or Wiccan for that matter) was associated with an actual university and offered two or three classes as part of a religious studies or sociology course, I would leap at the chance to do some studying. I think as far as learning o do spells and such, that would fall more into a workshop setting, or even a weekly meeting/worship gathering.

Why have we gotten on religious war, I thought the topic was about Zell's school joining with another. Good post GW, thanks. I think it is a good idea I wish we had more schools of Pagan thought.

Child-Of-Israel, if you want to be the enemy of non-Christians, so be it. You can be my enemy, but I think you will find it a dull fight, it is kind of hard to fight an enemy who has no interest in fighting back.

Darkwind joins Rev and SC on the fence and draws magick spirals in the sand with his sword.

Peace y'all

I already said, not w/ nonXians, but w/ their gods.

Good luck fighting my Gods. They out number your God. LOL Why don't we get back on topic.

A mortal imagines their one god wars with many gods. Monotheism vs. polytheism. Sounds like a Don King card.
~joins everyone on the fence, passes around a jug of Mead and prepares to watch the pay-per-view match of the millennium~

Now where's my Bookie.... ~looks around~

mmm... Mead.... *burp*

Mr. Wizard's dead

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*gasps*OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING ALL THE #*&$^(#% TIME *SOMEONE* WAVES HER LITTLE "Stop pursicuting christians!!" BANNER!!

It's not the hate for the faith.. or the majority of.. or the few really awsome ones here (Like PA.. and yeah.. PA's it *snickers* *teases*) It's the hate of the select few who are acting exactly like COI... Like KBG.. like anyone else who gets on that moral high horse thumb their noses, treats people with different faiths like they're no more then dirt... It's *THOSE* people and their ideals that twist the faith that we have issues with. It's when a whole town shuns a family because they're not christian like them. It's when a crazy lady get's a bee up her butt because she thinks that a stupid book made for entertainment will make kids go to the pagan side (we have cupcakes!)... Yeah, the list can go on... but you get the idea. It's the way people twist christianity.. it's the ones who use it to spread hate. We retaliate against them.. not the whole damned faith.


*breaths*

Why is this such a damned hard concept to fathom...

... I need more #&%^ rum...

YEAH! Like that gumby guy!!!! What a bastich! (Yeah, I've been beaten up by you guys).

I say don't retaliate. That's just low budget. Turn the other cheek...oh wait, that would be Christian, and we wont have any of THAT crap! (Please note tongue planted firmly in cheek).

Careful, if you do that often enough it'll freeze like that. Then you'll talk funny and we, sitting on this fence passing around yet another bottle of Mead because the first one disappeared right when it got to DW, will laugh, and call you "Cheeky" !

I turn the other cheek.. then someone gets cheeky and smacks my arsh. X)


I'm just getting frustraited with this whole.. "STOP PURSICUTING CHRISTIANS!!" thing... from people who have no idea or selectivly choose to ignore why.. there tends to be much distain towards certain moral high horsed christians... they're not helping the solution... they're not helping when some of us try to explain why we're upset by going off in our faces.

I've been on these boards for a few years now.. and I've seen the course of how things go. We'll have a month or two of new christians comming in here and just acting like arrogant little .... and condemning people to hell for not being christians (in many verious ways) Most leave after a huge blow up... and leaves the rest of us worn and bitter.. especialy when you have to explain the same things over and over and over ..

Which.. we're stuck in now. I don't know how many times I've had to say "I don't care who you worship. It can be gods, a god, or fruly the purple anteater of doom. As long as you don't condemn me, or get in my face for not believing in what you do.. it's all good." I don't know how many time's now I've had to explain that it's not the faith I hate... it's how people twist it, act like morons, and treat people like crap because they're not christians.

Hells, when a certain member here called pagans no better then pedos and rapists... I damned near had a heart attack I was so pissed off. And there was no reason for it. None. The guy just couldn't accept that there are pagans in the world that don't want to be christians. He treated nonchristians like crap.. and that wasn't on. And it was very unchristianlike of him. Which made it worse.

Other then that... Just need to breath... *falls over*

I hear ya. I tend to feel the same way when I defend a Christian that gets slammed on a daily basis. Don't worry, as soon as a Christian pops on and stereotypes Pagans or says they are no better than pedophiles or rapists...I'll be all over them, like white on rice. In the meantime, there are people here that seem to think Christianity as a WHOLE is anti-gay, anti-peace, anti-freedom, anti-everything, and that's pretty maddening. I don't hate Mayans because they killed and enslaved thousands for ritual sacrifice thousands of years ago. Just like I don't use the crusades or the Spanish Inquisition to vilify a 25 year old Christian that tries to turn the other cheek and live his life like he believes Jesus would want him to.

I think the only time I used the cruisades and the inquasition is when a couple of people were going off on how violent pagans were.. and how christanity was never so violent.. never did horrible acts in the past. That's when the context is needed really.


Though Mako has a horrible modern day story about how christians in this one country slaughtered a town because they were muslims... omgs and then there's *dramatic pause* JESUS CAMP! *giggles*

Christians as a whole.. are as varied as anything out there. Some are horrible people.. some are the nicest... many are tolorant, and understanding. And I hate when the horrible people make the same faith that the nice and tolorant ones follow look hidious all around.

*sighs* We need some good happy things posted...

Silver Cougar its mind boggling to me that people can't see how antagonistic people are towards Christians on this board.

People attack them for being Christian. They make all sorts of stereotypes about them being Christian, they tell them what they believe and even though PAGES and PAGES of stuff have been posted by the members here explaining what they believe, people either ignore what they say or accuse them of being liars about it.

I don't know any of the members on this board religion EXCEPT the Christians. For example one time you mentioned that you are pagan and its been said several times so I remember it. But there are several other pagans, atheists, deists, etc. I have no idea except for very few people what their religion is.

But most of the Christians I know because every time they try to start a thread similar to what is posted all day every day about Christians, they get attacked for......BEING CHRISTIAN.

Its disgusting to me. No different than attacking someone for being gay.

How about we start a bunch of threads pointed out how the AIDS epidemic got its feet in the gay community which then spread outward and gay people are really responsible for the death of innocent people and children. And then lets hate on all homosexuals for the irresponsible sexual habits of a bunch of people 20 years ago. Lets do that right?

That's how it comes across to me. Its disgusting. It reminds me of Nazi's talking about Jews.