Has anyone seen this video?

Bush Sr actually calls for a New World Order in a live televised speech.

See here for video: http://www.911researchers.com/node/439


I wonder... is this good news, or something of concern?


There's another video link there too, regarding GWB's grandfather Prescott. That one makes me wonder even more...

I don't know that he was trying to insinuate a world government is coming. He would have gained very little for doing that. To openly admit that he was planning to surrender the United Staes to a U.N. style organisation would've gotten him hauled out impeached on the spot. I think that he was probably using the term figuratively. Implying that the nations of the world need to start doing business differently. The old order of twin superpowers was gone and there is only one left. If anything, he was possibly implying that the United States would be taking the lead in world affairs.

Either way, if he was talking N.W.O. in the CT sence of the word, they really haven't made a whole lot of progress since have they? Besides, I find it unlikely that he, if that were his designs, would so openly use the term. Especially, considering the stigma associated with that term before he even got into office.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face...forever. -George Orwell 1984

"What we say, goes" -*George Bush (Illuminati)
As a response to what would happen after the collapse of the Soviet Union. He referred to the Council on Foreign Relations.

"When nations get disappointed on their governments, the population will start to clamor for a singular Government that can bring peace and harmony. This will be the moment to enthrone our sovereign" -Member of the Illuminati

"If we like it or not, we will have a One World Government. The question is if it will beachieved through consent or through conquest"
-J. Warburg - (Illuminati and Rothschild banker)

"It doesn't matter who the people voted for; they always vote for us" -Joseph Stalin, Illuminati

Quotes from Illuminists
Quotes from Illuminists 2
Quotes from Illuminists 3

The victor will never be asked if he told the truth. -Adolf Hitler

By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise. -Adolf Hitler

What good fortune for governments that the people do not think. -Adolf Hitler

The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. -Adolf Hitler

What luck for the rulers that men do not think. -Adolf Hitler
Adolf



Albert Einstein, quote about Illuminati:
The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses.
Illuminati NWO

And the emotion the NWO is using is fear!!!...the terrorists are gonna get ya..if we dont do what bush says...anyone find it ironic the speech is exactly ten years before 9/11?

Decentralized control please. Weak federal, Strong local government is my vote.
Even if there were consent around the world, so much power in such a small space is historically doomed to become corrupt and oppressive.
Global Warming, War on Drugs, War on Poverty, many welfare entitlements... all of these (and more) work on fear and division towards the goal of stronger centralized (eventually "N.W.O.") control.

good post...local government is a must! to stop the NWO and their games...

The solution is not how government is structured, it is how the people relate to the government.

Thinking for yourself, not being brainwashed, requires a sense of feeling and discernment. It connects our intuition with our logical thoughts. This is and will always be what exploiters fear the most.

John

I hear ya John, good points...

I agree FEAR is the number one human emotion that the instigators of the NWO are using against the masses.

And as Unlimited stated Illuminati/NWO & their numero uno tactic is ORDER OUT OF CHAOS


''Fear defeats more people than any other one thing in the world.'' -Ralph Waldo Emerson.

"The world is run by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." -Benjamin Disreali, Lord Beaconsfield

"I wonder why progress looks so much like fear and destruction." -John Steinbeck

"History is the lie commonly agreed upon" -Voltaire


"Problems cannot be solved with the same level of intelligence that created them" -Albert Einstein

Goals Of The Illuminati Illuminati/NWO agenda

Lies From The Illuminati New World Order Puppets

good post rebel....the sky is blue and the birds are singing; but fox news tells me i'm in danger...it's them or us, I havent seen a terrorist attack in my country in 6 years ..yet i need to be constantly reminded there gonna get me...ahhhhhh..and personally i believe the NWO is responsible for 9/11...so the only thing to fear is the elite...

Yes, the president's Father is openly calling for a New World Order, and it is something everyone should be concerned about. A "New World Order" is exactly the same term Adolf Hitler used in his speeches and was exactly what he was trying to accomplish. To have a former president actually stand before the American people and use the exact term Hitler used is amazing, he should of been impeached, but the masses are too ignorant to the facts and symbology to acutally do anything about it; like it is said, you cant solve a problem unless you admit there is a problem, otherwise the problem doesnt exist. The thing is, these presidents and puppets alike can openly talk about a New World Order and so on with confidence because they know the majority of the public are in a state of mass hyponosis by the media on T.V. They quickly believe every statement the government makes without the slightest bit of skepticism, while they're supposed "leaders" just sit back throw out more propaganda to keep them "in line" and as far from the truth of matters as possible;fore as it was said that if the public knew the truth about what they're governments had in store for them the White House would be burned to the ground and the streets stained with political blood.

All I know is, the American people better start "waking up" because in the near future things are going to get to "death point"; the point of no return, when its too late. Just look at what's behind the president when he speak in front of Congress, a fascia, a symbol of fascism and nazism. Not only that, there are many more symbols the public are totally unaware of which are "hidden in plain view". Im angry now, I dont even wanna talk about it..........Sunofone take the floor.

I realize it's been discussed before but for the ones who are new to the topic and or unfamiliar with it...
heres some more of what the Elite/NWO have install for us in the not too distant future...

Microchip Implant: Human Race Enslaved!...The final phase of the New World Order.

It's closer than you think...

Operation Lie and Deceive Verichip Style.

Your papers please.

Open your mind. (watch for Billy boy under some kind mind control @ the end of the clip)


On Human Population Control:
"If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." -Prince Phillip. *WTF!*

Tom ridge; ex head of homeland security. now heads up a microchipping company...if they try to chip us we must revolt...

Why are the masses just following whoever says they are in control? What is wrong with people and where did freedom and independance go?

I get a very weird flashback to the 'Deux Ex' game when I read this post

I don't think a world government would ever work, the world is just to big to govern from one centralized point. Eventually it would fail (if it ever came to pass) and we would return to smaller localized governments.

It is sad that some people want to place themselves in positions of power to wield over the general population. Life is too short...

The New World Order will not happen. There are too many people who have awakened and are able to think for themself.

There will eventually be an African Union very much like the one in Europe. Much of this worlds natural resourses are in Africa.

In my view, South Africa is an area where localized governments can be formed to work for the good of the people. This can set a good example for other places to follow like North Africa and the USA. South Africa may well be the guiding light many of us wish to find.

John

But, Sr. said that back in the 90's. A group called Ministry did a song called "New World Order" where they had Sr. saying that over and over in the song. Ministry was putting it out there and surprisingly, it didn't raise an eyebrow back then. I wonder why it is now?

Ministry - NWO

all the locals hide their tears of regret
open fire cos i love you to death
sky high, with a heartache of stone
you'll never see me cos i'm always alone

how to love without a trace of dissent
i'll buy the torture cos you pay for the rent
tied high with a broken command
you're all alone to the promised land

i'm in love with this malicious intent
you've been taken but you don't know it yet
what you will know must never live to be found
cos it's the subject of the eyes of the clown

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_order


http://www.svpvril.com/nwo.html


http://www.savethemales.ca/000530.html

Yes Bush is part of it imo, but so are the one's promising to "deliver" us from Bush or the neo-cons or whatever boogeyman they can dig up. It's 2 sides of the same coin.
If one bashes Bush, and not Clinton, Kerry, Gore, etc... then they are as much part of the problem as the "blind patriots". Both groups are the UI's. False division war on poverty haves have nots drug war global warming race bait perpetuation fighting eachother

We can only hope your right about that John but...

As we all know in any country developed or undeveloped when/if the masses do wake up and revolt against any type police/totalitarian state, martial law is sure to follow in keeping the masses in line. So we're back to where we started...a nation living in fear.

The Danger of Fascism:
With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power.

14 points of fascism
Police State?

Later...

It is my understanding that we no longer have the Cold War because the people in Russia did NOT want that war to continue.

I would like to think this could and will continue to happen. The conscious desires of the majority will be supported at the subconscious level. It is fear that surpresses desires and independant thinking. That is why many leaders are always looking for an enemy to fight.


Create enought fear and the population can not think straight. They will look for strong leaders to protect them from their fearful concerns. They will turn over whatever personal power they have, their discernment, and blindly follow their trusted leaders.

With respect John, of course i realize the cold war is over, all the links provided are about the 'right here and now'.

Thanks for the reply John, work's calling or rather screaming lol! catcha ya soon...

Rebel.



Most police states, surprisingly, come about through the democratic process with majority support. During a crisis, the rights of individuals and the minority are more easily trampled, which is more likely to condition a nation to become a police state than a military coup. Promised benefits initially seem to exceed the cost in dollars or lost freedom. When people face terrorism or great fear - from whatever source - the tendency to demand economic and physical security over liberty and self-reliance proves irresistible. The masses are easily led to believe that security and liberty are mutually exclusive, and demand for security far exceeds that for liberty.

Once it's discovered that the desire for both economic and physical security that prompted the sacrifice of liberty inevitably led to the loss of prosperity and no real safety, it's too late. Reversing the trend from authoritarian rule toward a freer society becomes very difficult, takes a long time, and entails much suffering. Although dissolution of the Soviet empire was relatively non-violent at the end, millions suffered from police suppression and economic deprivation in the decades prior to 1989.

But what about here in the United States? With respect to a police state, where are we and where are we going?

Let me make a few observations:

Our government already keeps close tabs on just about everything we do and requires official permission for nearly all of our activities.

One might take a look at our Capitol for any evidence of a police state. We see: barricades, metal detectors, police, military soldiers at times, dogs, ID badges required for every move, vehicles checked at airports and throughout the Capitol. The people are totally disarmed, except for the police and the criminals. But worse yet, surveillance cameras in Washington are everywhere to ensure our safety.

The terrorist attacks only provided the cover for the do-gooders who have been planning for a long time before last September to monitor us for our own good.� Cameras are used to spy on our drug habits, on our kids at school, on subway travelers, and on visitors to every government building or park. There's not much evidence of an open society in Washington, DC, yet most folks do not complain - anything goes if it's for government-provided safety and security.

If this huge amount of information and technology is placed in the hands of the government to catch the bad guys, one naturally asks, What's the big deal? But it should be a big deal, because it eliminates the enjoyment of privacy that a free society holds dear. The personal information of law-abiding citizens can be used for reasons other than safety - including political reasons. Like gun control, people control hurts law-abiding citizens much more than the law-breakers.

Social Security numbers are used to monitor our daily activities. The numbers are given at birth, and then are needed when we die and for everything in between. This allows government record keeping of monstrous proportions, and accommodates the thugs who would steal others identities for criminal purposes. This invasion of privacy has been compounded by the technology now available to those in government who enjoy monitoring and directing the activities of others. Loss of personal privacy was a major problem long before 9/11.

Centralized control and regulations are required in a police state. Community and individual state regulations are not as threatening as the monolith of rules and regulations written by Congress and the federal bureaucracy. Law and order has been federalized in many ways and we are moving inexorably in that direction.
America. Police state?



Edit: spelling errors. *DAMM the man is never going to learn...GEEESH!*

"QUOTE(John A Spera @ Jun 12 2007, 03:31 AM)
The New World Order will not happen. There are too many people who have awakened and are able to think for themself.

John"

I really hope that this is the case but I do however fear that even though people think for themselves do they do not DO anything about it because of FEAR.

I could use the example of Zimbabwe? Who in their right mind would live in a country like that anymore? Why do the masses not revolt? Why has someone not stopped the terror happening to its local citizens? Why does the WORLD not take a stand and say they will not allow it to happen anymore? One word FEAR.

Regardless if it happens right in front of you or covertly that you do not realize what is happening, FEAR is their greatest tool in controlling the masses. I wonder how many people will actually ACT if the real truth behind everything is known? The masses do have power over governments but unless they use their power it is useless. People will just follow whoever seems to have the best plan and who makes sense in their eyes. So if a police state is the way to go and can be explained away then people will agree to it. If they are told that constant surveillance is there to protect them and keep them safe then who will argue? The few that actually realise what is happening will be shunned as outcasts. Paranoid people who are constantly looking for conspiracies...

The control of information is another aspect of this which is happening and who can stop it? Who even knows what is being keep secret and what is being allowed to leak out? Think about it if information was really paramont and somebody was going to leak it I bet that that person would not survive to tell the account... Am I paranoid now? Maybe but that is the level of control that I feel they already have. The people that do let their 'stories' leak are the people that are Allowed to say what they say to provide misinformation and misdirection...

Anyhoo these are just my thoughts and hopefully I am not going to be stalked and have a camera follow my every move because of my views...

You make two very good points. The information we get from news programs is controlled and designed to keep us in fear. Also speaking out, depending on how you do it, will draw attention to you and lead to other issues.

However we find ourself here at UM in an open discussion about these things. So my perception is that we have come a long way towards dealing with fear. As I see it, the internet will lead to better ways to deal with personal expression and fear. Some day World News via the internet, we have it here & now at UM, will unfold as an information source that is very useful. To make it useful one needs to use discernment and we as a group are getting better at that. The information here is not controlled to a large extent, they do repress discussions abour suicide because it upsets many people, however their intent is to provide discussion that leads to awareness. For me that is groung breaking improvment. It sets an energy in motion that supports accurate reporting on all subjects of global interest. People can align themselves with like minded souls and devise ways to make improvements.

Its my considered view that the more we change our personal world view, the more we actually change and influence the collective awareness. So my closing comment to each of us will be, what have we done in our life to make an improvement lately? Better yet, what do we intend to do to heal some of our fears and frustrations?

John

Yes all valid points. The people overcames things like this in Russia. I think we can do it here in the USA as well.

Thank you John. I had hoped that there was light and there is even when we do not want to see it.

The internet in the one place that I do believe is still free and open (unless you are in China ) I just hope that all efforts to keep it this way will be made if it ever comes under threat... I guess it is all about educating people to see the world around them as they want it to be instead of the worst version of itself. Then you need someone to motivate and guide them into action to bring about the change they want.

Star

If you have the time to spare i recommend viewing End game of the Illuminati ...both clips are eye-popping & mind-blowing stuff.

It will work immediately and like a charm - come off without a hitch - just as soon as we are attacked from space by some alien race.

Ronald Reagan pointed this out.

It seems amusing that someone would start a thread like this. To my knowledge, it was Bush Sr. that actually originated the "New World Order" phrase in the first place. Conspiracy theorists - mainly the illuminati chasing sort as far as I can tell - took the phrase and ran with it - using it to try to indicate some convoluted and nefarious scheme that Bush Sr. was trying to bring to fruition.

So, yeah, he said it. That's why you heard of it. I guess the entire silly notion has finally come full circle now, with someone trying to use Bush's words -where the phrase originated - to try to "prove" something about the very same idea that he voiced!

Harte

You mean the Bush from JFK II?:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2928756561478705121


And a small video called John Buchanan on the Bush Dynasty?:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4519046377480125099


And the most amazing tail of all, Bush in on Tesla documents to Germany:

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20070405.htm

Becomes chief of NWO as he claims source of the most powerful weapon that can destroy
planes and ships, see Russian translation of UFO war in Antartica.

Well if he was instrumental in the saucer development he may be the top dog.
Perhaps thats why he talks about the NWO.

Thank you for that link it was most interesting! Some very strong allegations are made in it but they seem to have done their research... I am going to have to do some of my own to double check if I believe this though...

I like the link provided by REBEL especially the last of the seven recommendations at the end of the 2nd video.

In many ways this information can be disturbing. Country after country has given its power to the leaders they have. Sometimes leaders are elected and sometimes they just sieze power. The people also have a power with their thoughts, perceptions, and their dreams, yet never seem to realize this.

I think its our resignation to what we dislike that hurts the most.

John

Don't we all want Peace and Order?
World Peace, World Order, what now is the big hoopla about it????

When you hear the word "new world order" and bush in the same sentence.. It's bad news.

Here you touched upon something that's been grinding at me. Keeping the internet, and every aspect of our computers private and free is under constant threat.

A short clip explaining "Trusted Computing" (safe to run active x, you can "trust" these people)

This means a chip in every computer, pda, cell phone, basically every single piece of electronic equipment that can monitor and regulate what you are allowed to do and send that data (if connected to a network) to the manufacturer... or the TCPA (Trusted Computing Platform Alliance) or Next-Generation Secure Computing Base (Formerly Palladium, before that known only as a system used in Trusted Computing Platform Alliance - confused yet, they make it confusing for a reason!). Learn more about NGSCB here and here. For now they are powerless to do anything with that information, their proposed laws to prosecute have been shot down in Congress, but the chips have been shipped in laptops and other electronics already. Thank the EFF for helping to keep the laws from passing.

Recently they have been doing research and development into scrapping the existing internet all together for a more "secure" internet. Read more here. The more I read about this, the more I don't trust the implications. Especially when I see lines like this:

Of course we should be afraid of spammers and hackers. The tools are widely available to protect ourselves, all it takes is a bit of knowledge and a tiny amount of effort. And again, the system today is built on trust, I trust myself with my own computer. I trust myself to know that the information I'm sending is safe. I trust myself to investigate a website before I give them my credit card information. Yet the decision seems to be being made that my knowledge is not enough, and systems need to be put in place so everything I do can be tracked and I can be personally identified? Are they not catching spammers and hackers with the tools they have today - I read the news.

But it's so expensive today to track down those hackers and spammers, is that the excuse? My argument to that is the technology to do that is improving so the expense will decrease. And the expense of this "new" internet isn't so tiny:


(Source is above linked article)

Forgive the rant, as I said, it's been grinding at me. And as far as a connection to something like a larger NWO type of organization, I could see how something like controlling PCs and other electronics would be quite handy.

It all depends on the following
1. how that peace and order was first built. Would you want peace that costed innocent people their lives and freedom (against their will)?
2. how it is being maintained? Open and free or oppressive unless you are one of the 'elite'?
3. Is it free or one that on the surface appears free but underneath is it not?


I would want a peaceful free world with no problems but then I would want everyone to enjoy it not just some fortunate few. I would want all people to have access to all information and no more secret tactics to keep people in fear. How can you live in an idealistic world if you fear everything you do is being recorded and analysed?

Episteme - I read those articles about the internet and I think it is just another way that they have realised that freedom exists and they want to squash it. They cannot control the internet as they used to so now they want to replace it with something that they can. Personally I don't see how they will get this right as it spans the whole world but you never know...
It is scary to think about what they have at their disposal to keep tabs on us.

There are holes in it, but I always wonder about a post that quickly points one flaw out of many hundreds
of points to discredit the entire research. I mean right on the heels on my post. So thanks for your comment.

I mean the slant I put on things is made up of pure conspiracy theories, but I sure do like them.

The Curious George episode needs works, but then one of the originators or workers was murdered.
What, is he in the long line of Forestall, JFK, JFK Jr. due to the Bush - Illuminati control of the super
weapon from WWII.

See what I mean.

The Tesla accountant was mentioned once by an initial Tesla biographer and that writer seems to be
unaware of other authors that mention him more. If there was a cover on him, the FOIA might not
identify him.





MaCain won the New Hampshire primary yet Bush got the Illuminati funding.

(See JFK Jr Google/YouTube(?) video)

I don't blame people being upset on life's turn of events but thanks to their efforts I can
turn off the media of ignorance (TV) and connect the dots the way I want to.

Of course it always will depend on something. A peaceful and orderly world that everyone will enjoy sounds nice, but not a reality. There will always be those who will not be satisfied. Human nature.