Okay,but only cause you asked so nice...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QGzQsmsnXA and please while your being so thourough,please do look up"the Disclosure project" on you tube.You will find,if you look hard enough,EVERY PERSON WITH NO DOUBT CREDIBLE,TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE REVERSED ENGENIRED MANY NEW "FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEED VEHICLES" funny how they dont show that on the nightly news.(oh,i forgot none of this is real,and imnotevenhere) After you get some time under your belt,maybe you will see the light.(At this point,i dont care)

Ok, I watched it and had to laugh a little when he started to talk about Element 115. I would strongly suggest you do a Google Search and see what scientiest actually have to say about this - funny, they do not agree w/Robert Lazar. In fact they prove that his 'teaching of E-115 is basically Out To Lunch.' -
Now here is the clencher. Who are you going to believe - 5 Recognized PhD's or Robert Lazar? Hmm, I think I would go w/the 5 PhD for very obvious reasons. They went to school and have the education and PhD's to back their claims. Robert Lazar on the other hand has NO schooling in this let alone a PhD in this. Plus as was stated, he supposed walked out of Area 51 w/this "Element 115".
Do you honestly have any idea what is involved w/the security in Area 51. You do not "walk out".
You have to go throw check points to get on the plane. You do NOT drive to work or walk to work. Walking out of Area 51 w/anything is just silly, unless you have no clue as to what security protocols are all about. NO, they are not broken at Area 51 any more than a person could walk out of Fort Knox w/a Bar of Gold, this simply would not happen. So just honestly think about that - how was there even a remote possible 'snowball chance in hell' that he "walked out"?? He didn't.

Plus as I stated, do some research on 115 - it's quite an eye opener and you find, it's not what he claims... not even close!

You spent,what...15 min?LOL..ok,you know what?You win.Your right.UUMM,ONE THING THOUGH:WHO DID THE REVERSE ENGINERING?!Oh,and the next time someone sees a "UFO" you might want to rethink where it came from.USA,Russia,or...?And i know that for every point i made about how a govt could erase someone(they can)you should see what some people from the roswell crash are NOW saying.Like jesse marsells son,who said YEARS ago that he remembers how his dad brought home pieces of an aleged alien craft.(he claimed up and down that it was NOT FROM THIS PLANET)but go to that same person today,and he claims that he was just a lil kid,and that the stuff his dad brought home wasnt anything special.Not the same testimony at all.Not that the govt would go and tell him to shut up or the desert will have more bones to hide.Not our govt.LMFAO...

You obviously didn't see the video I sent about Searl and his alternative energy system. See the video, now imagine using superconductors. Could the E115 material be a superconductor?.Try to extrapolate what maybe achieved if a superconductor is used and remember magnetic fields can travel faster than light... Hmmm, might work. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O7WNvKSvY...ted&search= http://www.opensourceenergy.org/_layouts/a...yer2.asp?vID=24

Translation of post:
I can't get anyone to buy my pet theory. All of science and those who hold to it are clearly biased against My Truth.

--Jaylemurph

Hmm,you can always turn that around.I dont need a translater.I already said you win.So you dont believe that bob did squat.Ok.I REALLY DONT CARE.I cant win an argument with morons,cause they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.(i only become abusive when abused.) Translation of post:
I can't get anyone to buy my pet theory. All of science and those who hold to it are clearly biased against My Truth.
(oh i didnt know you were a scientist) Please.

His glasses look real enough

Correct! The glasses are indeed real (but that's about all).

I think his hair is real too.... (is it??)

I would strongly suggest a very simple and logical idea: Study up on E-115. Notice what is said about it -v- E-114 and E-116. Do not take Robert Lazar's word - go talk to people that are actually making a living in the science community and ask them some of the basics of what Robert Lazar tries to 'pass off'. I can tell you they will laugh and go - "doesn't work". Then ask, "Why not?" There are some pretty solid reasoning as to why this doesn't 'work'.

Like I said, "In the real world are you going to take the word of Robert Lazar, or those who have actual degrees in the field and do know what they are talking about?" That will tell a lot right there!

Robert Lazar no more worked at Area 51, then I've set in the Oval Office of the White House. (I haven't.)

MY GOD ARE YOU SO BLIND YOU CANT PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER? OR YOU WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO MISINFORM THE PUBLIC. I BEIEVE ITS THE LATER. by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
Copyright © 2007


The Legend

ENGLAND -- In the 1960's Professor John Searl was building free-energy electricity generators that doubled as flying saucers, but was thrown in jail on the charge that he was stealing electricity from the grid. He was running his home on his energy generator, not from the grid.

Along with being arrested, his plans and devices were all rounded up and sequestered. They still have not surfaced these many years later -- unless some of the UFO and other odd sightings incorporate the government-stolen technology.

The device is a magnet motor of sorts, except that the product of the rotation is not torque but electricity that is liberated as the rollers make their rotation. It is essentially a magnet motor and alternator in one. Furthermore, if current is drawn off the device above a certain level, the device takes on on superconductor attributes which distort the gravitational fields, causing the device to levitate.

Emerging from jail penniless, John has had a difficult time rallying the necessary funds and talent to reproduce what he had developed in the '60s. Back then, he was employed with a British utility board and had access to a laboratory with all the equipment and tools necessary. Sourcing the materials and tools without that resource has been very difficult. He has come close several times, but all previous attempts have ended in frustration. http://pesn.com//2007/02/21/9500458_Searl_demo_video/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Nn-vz-hv0

Uh Lazar's idea sucks. He either is trying to appease the gov or really dont know chit. I like Searls better.

U give another link w/Robert Lazar as the 'teacher'. I think I've already stated - find a serious Science Teacher that has credentials and see what they say. I would strongly suggest that if you find 4+ that debunk Robert Lazar, that should tell you something right there! BTW: I did contact some teachers at the UoW that I know and they watched the sighted links and 3 of them wrote back - "Who is this idiot?" Funny thing they had never heard of him. Wonder why that would be? They also stated quite clearly: "He is a good speaker, but is clueless to what he is talking about." They all suggested he go back and take Science 101 all over again.

So here is the challege - go find some College Teachers that will agree w/Robert Lazar! U will not find one. <-- that is the challenge. I found 3 at the UoW that think he's and idiot. Now who am I going to believe.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4nXjuOZ1dE

This reminds me: Transformers The Movie comes out July 3rd!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPknGVrdCuY you will like.(maybe)not bob related

This is actually what "gets me" about Lazar. He knew damn well his story would get ripped apart (one would think -- at least as far as the 'scienctific' explanations), but yet, he put it out there.

This leads me into my "what if" style of thought, and ponder the reasons one would, so blatantly, get "it" wrong.


1.) He really wasn't concerned with the "science" behind it, he just wanted a quick ruse, and ended up getting more than he bargained for.

2.) He actually did do the things he said, and actually DOES know what he's talking about, but intentionally messed up the major part to keep the scientifically inclined (and therefore the majority) at a certain "distance". Perhaps to just get the idea out there, and let people become familiar with it -- while at the same time giving them nothing to get worked up about, because it isn't a known fact (the scientifically influenced are more apt to get the idea in their heads, and become familiar with it, without considering it "truth" until sufficient support is gained).

3.) He is very uneducated and SERIOUSLY thought he could pull everyone's legs... He didn't realize apparently, he only has two arms.

I Robot.

Man that was friggin awesome!
Imagine building enough of them and eventually turning on their creators...and us.

I vote for "1" and "3".

He saw the other crap that people literally bought into and passed around and the money made. So what the hell? He likely thought, I can pull this off, too. Saw some Star Trek and a couple of other movies and put together a psuedo science - that most people would buy and yes some would not. It was a gamble - he got his 15 minutes of fame. Got a little talk show rounds ... then quietly and quickly went into the silent mode when the act was busted. Haven't heard from him since. Which is also something to note.

There's more to it than that. Lazar was best buddies with John Lear at the time. That should tell you something.

Ya know what Rebel?If you look at the last part of the video,you will see the people who created that (cgi)movie.Tera Vaal,i believe.They do mock up work for different high end projects,and they make your idea come to life.Can you imagine WHy the millitary wants this?It does state it's purpose up front:And just like all the "Black"PROJECTS,(that are a billion times more wow factor than ANYTHING you see today.)They keep all the cool toys for themselves.Show us some retarted bot with a gun a flashlight and a camera...yeah...When the fact is this is the future,just not going to show us,not even.That would be equal to them rolling out the AROURA,or some Faster than light speed vehicle.No we get to look at the global hawk,*yawn*.Show off the tank that looks like it's made of obsidian that uses a microwave weapon system that will turn a bus load of humans into a VW sized vehicle.(and the adults inside bus look like size of small,burnt to a crisp baby.)This was first spotted,really not that long ago.And yes that incedent really did happen.But once you remove the human factor,in decision making,leaving such task to a well armed intelligent robot,one sees the terminator movie come to life...LOL!

U.S. defense officials publicly have suggested that a high-power microwave weapon might be used in the near term.

"You never know," said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld when asked at a briefing about the promise of such weapons.

"The real world intervenes from time to time, and you reach in there and take something out that is still in a developmental stage, and you might use it," Rumsfeld added.

Analysts stressed that HPM weapons are a work in progress.

"The military likes to use wartime for experimentation," said Philip Coyle, assistant defense secretary and director of operational test and evaluation from 1994-2001. "And there's nothing wrong with that. So they might go out and try it once. But I wouldn't expect to see any kind of usage where the military really depended on it for its results."



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Copyright © 2003, Reuters

I'm not reading 9 or 10 pages of this but I'm in sales and I routinely make W-2 forms for my customers so the income matches up for the proper approval.

Actually, he's still scaming people, he's just more low key about it.

Check out Lazar's United Nuclear website.


I like the picture of the guy with the eyebrows asking "looking for some Uranium??"

Could be Im getting old, but these fake bs artists are making me sick!!

Awww.... But Lilly, those two are boring (and therefore "wrong" using some people's logic).

I have to agree with you, Lilly.



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Reality is at times rather boring. However, when I'm faced with boring stuff I find it pretty easy to move on and find something that isn't boring! Frankly, Bob Lazar is "old news"...time to move on.

Definately "old news". But, he'll still be a top mention in the years to come. His name will last another decade or two, I think, before people are finally done with him... But people do suprise me.


Oh well, at least he gave people something to talk about. (sarcasm intended)

Makes you wonder if there were discussions like this 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem...

"He said he was god's son, but I met his father, Joseph. He was a carpenter, not a deity."

"But I saw him raise a centurion's daughter from the dead!"

"You just can tell, can you? He says he's coming back. I'll just wait and see til then."

--Jaylemurph

so your saying LEAR is a fraud also?

LOL

lol!

I hear ya Hazzard, your not getting old man lol! Theres so much bullsh*it floating around out there in all areas of Ufology, it's enough to put any man off the subject. I guess wherever/whenever theres easy $$$ to be made the charlatans/shysters & frauds spring out of the wood work, it must be big business. A lot of amateur wannabes out there too waiting and hoping to catch the $million footage on handy cam.

They ought to make it like religion where it's illegal to preach without a licence or something...oh wait, that won't work either...