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krypto-kid
i saw a TV program not to long ago called monster hunters and one episode they was talking about caddy the lake monster and they said a museum has the best evidence yet, a skull of a "cadborosaurus*" which they had carbon dated and it turned out it was only 2 years old, does any one have any more info on this?


* cant spell it sorry
Thunderbolt
do you have any pics?
krypto-kid
sorry i dont i tryed to look for it but i cant seem to find it :|

this is the programes website though http://www.gryphonproductions.com/MonsterHunters.htm
~Onyx~
Cadborosaurus, is that even a legitimate species? Or just another made-up name for another lake monster?
krypto-kid
well people who belive in it are trying to make it a species :\
capoeiranger
It was also dubbed "caddie". But I believe that the skull was actually those of a marine mammal. Correct me if I'm wrong, tho! thumbsup.gif
rosenrot
QUOTE(krypto-kid @ Jun 8 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]1714684[/snapback]
they had carbon dated it

Did they also run any DNA analysis on the skull?
Thunderbolt
when is this show on?
and what channel?
psyche101
QUOTE(~Onyx~ @ Jun 9 2007, 02:33 AM) [snapback]1714885[/snapback]
Cadborosaurus, is that even a legitimate species? Or just another made-up name for another lake monster?


"Cadborosaurus willsi", nicknamed "Caddy", is the name given to a sea serpent reported to be living on the Pacific Coast of North America. Its name is derived from Cadboro Bay in Victoria, British Columbia, and the Greek root word "sauros" meaning lizard or reptile.

Zoological reality of the species has been suggested by the original specimen-based description in a refereed scientific journal in which the type juvenile specimen is represented by 3 different close-up quality photographs (apparently in the B. C. Provincial Archives in Victoria, although I have no idea as to how one might gain access to them for perusal), in which at least three new-born relatively tiny precocial "baby" specimens have been independently held by at least three pairs of human captors during the past 40 years, and by more than 100 documented sightings, photographs, sonar images, and sketches of live animals made independently at predicted times and places, subsequent to the original description in 1995 and continuing to the present.
Thunderbolt
really?
never heard about any babies being reported
just one story by these twins
isis-999
QUOTE(krypto-kid @ Jun 8 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]1714684[/snapback]
i saw a TV program not to long ago called monster hunters and one episode they was talking about caddy the lake monster and they said a museum has the best evidence yet, a skull of a "cadborosaurus*" which they had carbon dated and it turned out it was only 2 years old, does any one have any more info on this?
* cant spell it sorry


What museum is suppose to have it, If you have the name we can run search on this.....
psyche101
QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ Jun 12 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]1719902[/snapback]
really?
never heard about any babies being reported
just one story by these twins


Apparently so, maybe a request to B. C. Provincial Archives in Victoria might turn them up, I cannot find them in there.
draconic chronicler
If the "Caddie skull" had been from a real cryptid, it would be front page news by now. Obviously it was misidentified. The skulls of toothed whales look surprisingly alien and reptile like when all the blubber is gone.

The best evidence of caddie was a photographed, semi digested example found in the stomach of a Sperm Whale. It looks like no other known animal, but has classic characteristics of a "sea serpent". Unfortuantely, the body stunk very badly and was thrown away before it could be scientifically analyzed.
~Onyx~
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Jun 11 2007, 11:10 PM) [snapback]1719814[/snapback]
"Cadborosaurus willsi", nicknamed "Caddy", is the name given to a sea serpent reported to be living on the Pacific Coast of North America. Its name is derived from Cadboro Bay in Victoria, British Columbia, and the Greek root word "sauros" meaning lizard or reptile.

Zoological reality of the species has been suggested by the original specimen-based description in a refereed scientific journal in which the type juvenile specimen is represented by 3 different close-up quality photographs (apparently in the B. C. Provincial Archives in Victoria, although I have no idea as to how one might gain access to them for perusal), in which at least three new-born relatively tiny precocial "baby" specimens have been independently held by at least three pairs of human captors during the past 40 years, and by more than 100 documented sightings, photographs, sonar images, and sketches of live animals made independently at predicted times and places, subsequent to the original description in 1995 and continuing to the present.


Yes, I read the exact same thing.........which just reinforces my thought that it's just a pieced-together name for just another lake monster.
psyche101
QUOTE(~Onyx~ @ Jun 13 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]1720527[/snapback]
Yes, I read the exact same thing.........which just reinforces my thought that it's just a pieced-together name for just another lake monster.


Just helping thumbsup.gif You asked if it was a real name. As real as Bigfoot I guess.

Actually, it's not a Lake monster, it is supposed to be living of the Pacific Coast, so, it's a Sea Monster original.gif

I don't think it exists either, but the story is a good read. I have search the BC archives, no piccys of the babies, althought that's where they say they are, there is an interview or two worth watching, if your into that sort of thing that is. This is the thing the Clarke Brothers say they have photographed. I wonder if they will surface again?
krypto-kid
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Jun 12 2007, 05:09 AM) [snapback]1719918[/snapback]
What museum is suppose to have it, If you have the name we can run search on this.....


it was just like a small shop but they called them self a museum for "caddie"
~Onyx~
QUOTE(psyche101 @ Jun 12 2007, 09:08 PM) [snapback]1721467[/snapback]
Just helping thumbsup.gif You asked if it was a real name. As real as Bigfoot I guess.


Oh, don't misunderstand me, I was in NO way trying to downplay your post, I just find it amusing that anybody seems to think that they can place a couple of latin words together to form a new word and people should just accept it....does that mean if I change Bigfoot to "Footy-Pithecanthropus" that it makes the 'Ol Footy legend MORE believable?

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Actually, it's not a Lake monster, it is supposed to be living of the Pacific Coast, so, it's a Sea Monster



laugh.gif ....Touche'
snuffypuffer
Caddy's don't have skulls, they have engines. Unless they're some kind of Transformer. But that's just silly talk.
krypto-kid
rofl laugh.gif
Thunderbolt
QUOTE(~Onyx~ @ Jun 13 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]1722315[/snapback]
I just find it amusing that anybody seems to think that they can place a couple of latin words together to form a new word and people should just accept it....does that mean if I change Bigfoot to "Footy-Pithecanthropus" that it makes the 'Ol Footy legend MORE believable?


people didnt call it cadborosaurus for nothing you know
it was named by a marinebiologist who is 100% sure that its a real animal
it doesnt make it more believeble ether its just giving it a new name
besides footy would be
Homo Sasquatchia that is if it is of the homo genus
~Onyx~
QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ Jun 13 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]1722937[/snapback]
people didnt call it cadborosaurus for nothing you know
it was named by a marinebiologist who is 100% sure that its a real animal
it doesnt make it more believeble ether its just giving it a new name
besides footy would be
Homo Sasquatchia that is if it is of the homo genus


Then I guess it's not a cryptid if they're 100% sure it's a real animal, so it'll have to leave the forum post-haste!!!

Thanks for clearing-up the new name for 'Ol Footy, even though I still think that it's all a bunch of Merda
capoeiranger
QUOTE(~Onyx~ @ Jun 14 2007, 03:21 AM) [snapback]1722961[/snapback]
Then I guess it's not a cryptid if they're 100% sure it's a real animal, so it'll have to leave the forum post-haste!!!

Thanks for clearing-up the new name for 'Ol Footy, even though I still think that it's all a bunch of Merda


Yeah, we call that here "shizznit" !!

Caddie's real? 100% real? Gimme the marine biologist name!
Thunderbolt
no no your missreading
i said that hes 100% sure its real
so that means he beleaves that it exists thats why he gave it the name not that he "knows" its real but he bealeves its real
snuffypuffer
I believe my relationship with Kari Byron is real. In fact I even gave it a name! Humpus Magicalus! Now see, that totally made it happen, right there. whistling2.gif
~Onyx~
QUOTE(Thunderbolt @ Jun 13 2007, 04:40 PM) [snapback]1722983[/snapback]
no no your missreading
i said that hes 100% sure its real
so that means he beleaves that it exists thats why he gave it the name not that he "knows" its real but he bealeves its real


So then you understand my apprehension in believing him beacuse he just "assigns" a latin name to it and believes it with ALL his marine biologists heart...next thing you know, Kari Byron will fall head-over-heels for Snuffy just beacuse he belie...... dontgetit.gif .... ph34r.gif
snuffypuffer
It works for everything man! You should really try it...
~Onyx~
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Jun 13 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]1723005[/snapback]
It works for everything man! You should really try it...


I'll give it a shot.......I believe that religion has no place in these crypto-forums, I call it Crapus-Irrelivanticus........I'll wait.
psyche101
QUOTE(~Onyx~ @ Jun 13 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]1722315[/snapback]
Oh, don't misunderstand me, I was in NO way trying to downplay your post, I just find it amusing that anybody seems to think that they can place a couple of latin words together to form a new word and people should just accept it....does that mean if I change Bigfoot to "Footy-Pithecanthropus" that it makes the 'Ol Footy legend MORE believable?


laugh.gif ....Touche'


blush.gif Ooops, I might have been a bit touchy, I have to agree, it's really funny isn't it, making up names for things you think exist, at least they are ready for it! Nothing like being prepared. LOL. Maybe they need to add a "saurus Canadanius" to Ogopogo as well.

Footy-Pithecanthropus -> laugh.gif I never thought of it that way, I love it, that's the best name I have heard for him. I'd watch out, Tom Biscardi might steal that....... ph34r.gif
Allfather of Valhalla
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Jun 12 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]1720261[/snapback]
If the "Caddie skull" had been from a real cryptid, it would be front page news by now. Obviously it was misidentified. The skulls of toothed whales look surprisingly alien and reptile like when all the blubber is gone.

The best evidence of caddie was a photographed, semi digested example found in the stomach of a Sperm Whale. It looks like no other known animal, but has classic characteristics of a "sea serpent". Unfortuantely, the body stunk very badly and was thrown away before it could be scientifically analyzed.


May I add that carbon dating is as accurate as saying you baked bread in France with a dude named Guy McNoodle-van-Strangle in 1876, and being right.
frogfish
First of all, Carbon-14 dating cannot date an object back 2 years...The range is from around a couple thousand to about 60,000, with a standard deviation of 30 years.

I think this is a bunch of BS.
Simple Logic
so does anyone know were we can see a pick pf this caddie?
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