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Reincarnated
A museum like no other
Ars takes a field trip: the Creation Museum
By Jonathan M. Gitlin


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Last weekend was the first weekend the Creation Museum in Petersburg, KY, (near Cincinnati) has been open to the public, and I, your intrepid reporter, braved the crowds to see what the fuss was about. Built at a cost of $27 million, it's an imposing building—not a particularly attractive one, though—with 60,000 square feet of space inside. With a budget as large as theirs, I'd have sent some of that money to Frank Gehry or Richard Meier, but then I'd not be building a creationist museum in the first place. That 60,000 square feet also managed to swallow the attendees quite easily; the parking lot may have been full, but there was never a scrum.

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First off, I must confess that I found the place very slick. They evidently got a good graphic design team to put together the displays, and the animatronics and vignettes were well done. The museum boasts that it had an ex-Universal Studios executive work on the presentation, and it's on a par with the better modern museums I've been to.

The message, on the other hand, I can't agree with. Designed for a fundamentalist Christian crowd, the Creation Museum is no friend to those who do not hold to its creationist tenets. Presumably to avoid labels of anti-Semitism, the museum takes it easy on Judaism. So far, no surprises. But then we get to its handling of the science and truly step through the looking glass.

To begin with, the museum presents real science alongside its version; an aviary containing finches is the first thing to greet you as you began your tour. The finches were a profound influence on Darwin and his theory of natural selection and are still studied by evolutionary biologists today. Another display contained poison frogs. This was of particular interest to me, since they claim the reason poison frogs aren't poisonous in captivity is due to the Almighty. I'm fairly sure it's due to the lack of poisonous mites in their diet, but there you go.

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There were posters explaining just how coal could be formed in a few weeks as opposed to over millions of years and how rapidly the Biblical flood would cover the earth, drowning all but a handful of living creatures. The flood plays a big part in the museum's attempt to explain away what we see as millions of years of natural processes. There was also an explanation as to why, with only one progenitor family, it wasn't considered incest for Adam and Eve's children to marry each other. Apparently there was less sin back then, and therefore fewer mutations in their DNA. Evidently sin, not two copies of the same recessive trait, gives rise to congenital birth defects.

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As you walk through the museum, the contorted reasoning to explain the formation of the Grand Canyon in hours or the rapid creation of thousands of breeds of dogs in a matter of weeks is augmented by what can only be described as a house of horrors about the dangers of abortion and drugs and the devil's music. A wall is covered in articles from newspapers and magazines showing what happens when society lives without the museum's brand of fundamentalist Christianity as its guiding light. Stem cell research, abortion, and homosexuality are center stage. Their representation of the modern world consists of a a seedy-looking alley, replete with rats, trash, and a church being demolished. It might have worked better if they'd set it to Gimme Shelter by the Rolling Stones, but I'm not sure Mick and boys would have gone for that.

Surprisingly, I didn't get much of a Flintstones vibe. I was expecting many more displays with Adam and Eve and T. Rex, whom we learn was a vegetarian in the days of yore, but with a couple of exceptions, dinosaurs and humans were separated by at least a few feet. There also didn't seem to be that many dinosaurs in general. They may have been outdoors in the park, but it was raining by this point and there was only so much more I could take. There was, however, a saddled dinosaur at the exit for small children to ride. Other exhibits included a take on Noah's Ark, including how all the animals got peacefully onto the boat two by two. Noah gathered them together, it seems, but the Lord made them walk the gangplank.

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Notice how the vegetarian velociraptors ignore Eve

It was certainly an eye-opening way to spend an afternoon, but not one I could recommend to anyone in good conscience, if for no other reason than I can think of many better ways to spend $20. If anyone wants to see more, I've put a virtual tour up on Flickr.

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What every little kid wants—a triceratops with a saddle.

Meanwhile, the founder of the museum, Australian Ken Ham, is being investigated by a former Chief Magistrate in his home country for deceptive conduct and other wrongdoings in relation to the Australian church organization he was once affiliated with. This is hot on the heels of the incarceration of that other leading light of the creationist movement, Kent Hovind, who was recently sentenced to a decade in prison for tax evasion.

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__Kratos__
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What every little kid wants—a triceratops with a saddle.


Just not kids. I'd kill for one! laugh.gif Could ride that bad boy all over town! rofl.gif

We really ought to pull broadcasts of the Flintstones in the bible belt as some people are taking the cartoon as a documentary.
JMPD1
Oh Kratos, come on now!

It is perfectly plausible for a cave dweller to use a braciosaurus as an earthmover.

I saw on the telebision, so it must be so......
Ryo Ohki
What did Adam and Eve have to do with animals eating meat?
Irish
That’s some spiffy fig leafs that Eve has on; I wonder if she had a designer. grin2.gif
hnnjsn
pretty interesting stuff personally i do not think man evolved from a monkey! alien.gif
Shaftsbury
Excellent post, I wonder how many people have been through?

They sure like to use that term "human reason" a fair bit don't they.
Regency
I think we evolved from monkeys... you'd only need to look at my husband without his shirt on to KNOW we must have. yes.gif
JMPD1
QUOTE(Regency @ Jun 8 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]1715075[/snapback]
I think we evolved from monkeys... you'd only need to look at my husband without his shirt on to KNOW we must have. yes.gif



Now Regency, didn't we discuss marrying outside the species?

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darkmoonlady
We are in a new Dark Ages. I have to say. I brings to mind the book The Time Traveler by H.G. Wells. Are we going to split off into two species? One which embraces science and moves forward in the evolutionary bid to eventually head out to the stars, while a second group shuns science in favor of myth and turns into hmm say Morlochs? Sorry it just saddens me that in the year 2007 a place like this exists. I thought we had moved further in our thinking than this and it brings us all down when people deny science in favor of crazy theories based on a 2000 year old book.
SilverCougar
QUOTE(hnnjsn @ Jun 8 2007, 06:19 PM) [snapback]1715026[/snapback]
pretty interesting stuff personally i do not think man evolved from a monkey! alien.gif



You're right. We didn't. We did however share a common ancestor with the other apes and primates/monkeys.
GoddessWhispers
QUOTE(JMPD1 @ Jun 9 2007, 02:11 AM) [snapback]1715015[/snapback]
Oh Kratos, come on now!

It is perfectly plausible for a cave dweller to use a braciosaurus as an earthmover.

I saw on the telebision, so it must be so......


And just when we thought the Flintstones was not a biography! blink.gif

~adjusts antenna on telebison~
chaoszerg


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Hmm someone must have been watching too much dinoriders cartoons to come up with that idea.
theoric
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jun 8 2007, 11:05 AM) [snapback]1715005[/snapback]
Just not kids. I'd kill for one! laugh.gif Could ride that bad boy all over town! rofl.gif

We really ought to pull broadcasts of the Flintstones in the bible belt as some people are taking the cartoon as a documentary.


if you will settle for a model (much like in that picture), you can also go sit on one in alberta, which just happens to be home to our (canadian) brand spankin new "creation science museum".

Leonardo
Why would a Creationist Museum clothe a pre-Expulsion Eve? Surely they would want to show how nakedness is not a sin if you are pure and do not have knowledge of Good and Evil?
SilverCougar
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 8 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]1715211[/snapback]
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Hmm someone must have been watching too much dinoriders cartoons to come up with that idea.


LOL I was thinking "Dinotopia" given the sattle with the beaded blanket and all X)
Jim88
I've heard Christians better explain things than that museum. I can't believe they're pushing the idea that the world is 6,000 years old.

It would be nice if they had a creation museum that wasn't based on Christian and Jewish mythology.
Reincarnated
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Harte
QUOTE(Jim88 @ Jun 8 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]1715367[/snapback]
I've heard Christians better explain things than that museum. I can't believe they're pushing the idea that the world is 6,000 years old.


Jim88,

I know you know this, but I feel compelled to say that the majority of Christians hold no such belief.

Christians aren't just a bunch of fools standing around waiting to be raptured. I'm a Christian myself, though you'd be hard pressed to tell it from my posts. I'm my own kind of Christian, I suppose. But I might be wrong, maybe I just never found a perfectly matching denomination. Disciples of Christ comes close, though.

This idiotic craze for Biblical literalism is just a huge waste of time and effort. Most Christians know that making these silly claims is no way to bring people to Christ (which is, after all, what He told us to do, isn't it?)

Anyway, the entire Catholic faith is today, according to the Pope, not supposed to regard things in the Bible as scientifically accurate, or even necessarily true.

Harte
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jun 8 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]1715005[/snapback]
Just not kids. I'd kill for one! laugh.gif Could ride that bad boy all over town! rofl.gif

We really ought to pull broadcasts of the Flintstones in the bible belt as some people are taking the cartoon as a documentary.


lol. would be a help againt road rage.
chaoszerg
so....spiders were vegetarians before the fall of man.
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Jun 8 2007, 10:13 PM) [snapback]1715443[/snapback]
so....spiders were vegetarians before the fall of man.


And T-Rex's, Lions and Bears.

I like how it says reason breeds slavery yet Kentucky was one of the states that didn't want to give it up.
sbradj
As a christain I beleive the earth is far older than 6,000 yrs..I think its one of the goofiest and farest from the "real" meaning one could come up with...If your gonna make something thats surpose to "biblical" then thats what it should be not the way this musem is making it out to be.. thumbdown.gif gotta say that dino-saddle is gonna be a big trend with the equine industry... rofl.gif
KBA
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Jack-A-Roe
Poor critters forced into becoming carnivores...I bet they must have been a little pissed I mean what did they ever do to get on "The Man's" bad side? ohmy.gif
Reincarnated
QUOTE(sbradj @ Jun 9 2007, 01:01 AM) [snapback]1715617[/snapback]
As a christain I beleive the earth is far older than 6,000 yrs..I think its one of the goofiest and farest from the "real" meaning one could come up with.
You can still be religous without being a Christian. thumbsup.gif
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(sbradj @ Jun 8 2007, 08:01 PM) [snapback]1715617[/snapback]
As a christain I beleive the earth is far older than 6,000 yrs..I think its one of the goofiest and farest from the "real" meaning one could come up with...If your gonna make something thats surpose to "biblical" then thats what it should be not the way this musem is making it out to be.. thumbdown.gif gotta say that dino-saddle is gonna be a big trend with the equine industry... rofl.gif


Yes, the most amazing thing about the Bible is that the creation is described much like the big bang, that life begins in the sea, then there is an epoch of birds and dragons (dinsaurs) but incorrectly translated to whales, followed by the age of mammals culminated by mankind.

This is right there in the Bible, but rather than use this information to promote the wisdom in the Bible, this is ignored, and the only creation epic of mankinds past that is compatible with science is turned into an absurd, six day fairytale that occured only 6,000 years ago.
GoddessWhispers
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ Jun 9 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]1715758[/snapback]
You can still be religious without being a Christian. thumbsup.gif

And it may be said also, that one can be spiritual without being religious. thumbsup.gif
draconic chronicler
QUOTE(laughing tanuki @ Jun 8 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]1715712[/snapback]
Poor critters forced into becoming carnivores...I bet they must have been a little pissed I mean what did they ever do to get on "The Man's" bad side? ohmy.gif


Maybe they actually liked meat better...... I mean, who just orders "a salad" at McDonalds? And it was probably hard for a t-rex to eat grass anyway, with teeth that were obviously designed to kill and eat animals.

Yahweh, the fire spewing, ex-Sumerian storm dragon seems "hooked" on meat as well. The Bible states He turned up his nose at Abel's veggie offering, but loved Cain's of meat and blood. And when Aaron's sons didn't prepare the meat quite right for him, he consumed them instead!
sbradj
QUOTE(Reincarnated @ Jun 8 2007, 11:21 PM) [snapback]1715758[/snapback]
You can still be religous without being a Christian. thumbsup.gif

indeed
sbradj
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Jun 9 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]1716123[/snapback]
And it may be said also, that one can be spiritual without being religious. thumbsup.gif

exactly Gw..being religious can be dangerous..
Reincarnated
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Jun 9 2007, 12:37 PM) [snapback]1716123[/snapback]
And it may be said also, that one can be spiritual without being religious. thumbsup.gif
Yeah, that too. I don't prefer any current organized religion. I prefer to build my own spiritual path. innocent.gif
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