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Desty
I hope that by writing this perhaps someone will be able to tell me what this is, and why this happens.

It used to happen to me a lot when I was younger but not nearly as intense as last night. Last night I was going to bed, the normal time, to a not so normal day, particularly stressful and I did more physical labor than I normally do. I was laying down on my side curled into a ball and I began to feel a strange pressure on my mind, like as if i was "reaching out" in thought somewhere. I began to hear this slight buzzing noise and I felt strange all over my body. Almost as if i was experiencing time differently, I was much more sensitive. The buzzing noise mutated into a clicking noise almost. I just layed there in curiosity because I remember this happening to me when I was younger many times but not with this much clarity. The clicking noise would mutate depending on my level of awareness on the situation, It changed into noises which almost sounded like frustrated people speaking to me, people I didnt recognize. I began to feel strange things not on my body but I felt them. Kind of hard to explain. Heres an example, at first I felt lke i was eating something, but not something that could be tasted, I felt it going into my mouth and I knew i was consuming it but it tasted nothing like anything Ive ever tasted in my life. It had the texture of soft paper thats as close as i can get to discribing it. Then I felt sensations on my hands like layers and layers of chainmail penetrating me at my hands, only soft chainmail. I heard cars outside driving but during this entire scene, so I knew my time perception was not really messed up because they traveled at normal speed. the noises didnt go away until just before I fell asleep. At times the noises were so loud I couldnt hear anything around me and It was dificult to focus. During this my sence of touch was so sensitive that when i touched my face and beard I felt every detail as if my finger was slowly traveling across my face when it was actually moving fairly quick.

This was my experience I hope I can get some productive feedback, any feedback is appriciative. Sorry for it being so long, any questions I will try to answer promptly.
Shankpin
sounds very much like hypnagogic hallucinations, (its common so its nothing to get upset or nervous about.. :})
see if this sounds like what you experience here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia
Desty
QUOTE(Sunni @ Jun 10 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]1718009[/snapback]
sounds very much like hypnagogic hallucinations, (its common so its nothing to get upset or nervous about.. :})
see if this sounds like what you experience here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia

It could but..

I had none of these

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Experienced qualities vary, and include a falling sensation, joy, fear, awareness of a "presence", chest or back pressure, and an inability to breathe.


The majority of the noises I heard were comprehensable but this says

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Auditory sensations are often described as incomprehensible noises rather than distinctive sounds.


but it did happen as I was falling asleep.

Overall it just doesnt seem to be accurate enough to describe what I experienced.

I didnt experience
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alien abduction, extra-sensory perception, telepathy, apparitions, or prophetic or crisis visions. [or a] lucid dream
Just strange sensations, a hightened sense of touch, and a trance like feel to it.

Sofar this is byfar the closest thing to it though.
Shankpin
QUOTE(Desty @ Jun 10 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]1718065[/snapback]
It could but..

I had none of these
The majority of the noises I heard were comprehensable but this says
but it did happen as I was falling asleep.

Overall it just doesnt seem to be accurate enough to describe what I experienced.

I didnt experience
Just strange sensations, a hightened sense of touch, and a trance like feel to it.

Sofar this is byfar the closest thing to it though.


Ok, here you go hun, the sensation you couldn't breath, something on your chest is the give way::
I overlooked that particular part in your op.. I do believe this is what youre experiencing here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis
Madcap
Something along these lines happens to me a lot. Right before I fall asleep I feel like I'm reaching out and then I hear very clear, normal speaking volume loud, voices. It lasts maybe fifteen, twenty minutes before I fall to sleep. They always said the strangest things, too, totally unrelated to the events of the day. The buzzing sound I got a lot when I was little, sometimes with beeps. For some reason I always associated those sounds with submarines, though.

Is that kind of thing what you're talkinga bout?
Desty
QUOTE(Sunni @ Jun 10 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]1718077[/snapback]
Ok, here you go hun, the sensation you couldn't breath, something on your chest is the give way::
I overlooked that particular part in your op.. I do believe this is what youre experiencing here..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

No not sleep paralysis Ive had that before it generally happens when i wake up in the middle of the night, i wasnt paralyzed at all infact i moved around quite a lot opened my eyes spoke aloud and such.

QUOTE(Madcap)
Something along these lines happens to me a lot. Right before I fall asleep I feel like I'm reaching out and then I hear very clear, normal speaking volume loud, voices. It lasts maybe fifteen, twenty minutes before I fall to sleep. They always said the strangest things, too, totally unrelated to the events of the day. The buzzing sound I got a lot when I was little, sometimes with beeps. For some reason I always associated those sounds with submarines, though.

Is that kind of thing what you're talkinga bout?


yes it sounds very similar was your sense of touch enhanced? I heard voices too some were of people i knew saying things but most were of people i didnt know saying things i couldnt quite make out. the one i had last night lasted for about 15 minutes. and I believe that yes it always happened just before i go to sleep, I remember one instance it happened just after i woke up though, I got down was playing my ps2 and i was freaking out cause i could feel every detail of the ps2 controller and i couldnt get over how much detail there was that I had never noticed before,
myotishia
I get this to a lesser extent too . you should try talking to these voices if you can , maybe someone'll talk back . I say just sit back and enjoy the ability original.gif
budhabee
Hello Desty,
I get that you were not paralyzed. When sleep psycologists first heard of this gateway they tried to link it to narcolepsy except that only covered people who were paralyzed during the experiences. They have given it two fancy names. One called Hypnagogia (happening when you drift off to sleep) and the other called Hypnopompic (happening just before waking up) I call both these terms Hypnoblahblah. Because it is a gate. The twilight zone between waking and sleeping which is another world in its own right. The American Indian knows there is no such thing as hallucination. What you hear is something there. What you see is something there. Do not be afraid. Soon someone will come and start sitting down beside you on your bed. They may poke you sometimes. Its going to get stronger. Sometimes you will hear the honking of a loud horn. This is to let you know they are present or that they are coming. Lie still and dont move. Let things occur naturally. Some may lift you up. Dont fight this. (Also) Often your bedcovers will roll over you like waves do, or bubble around you like a cauldron. This may be a slow building experience. Mine was five years. Don't be anxious for it to happen every night. Sometimes it happens only once every three months. Sometimes it happens twice a week. It is also a good jumping off point into Lucid Dreaming.
Lots or Luck
Budhabee
Desty
QUOTE(budhabee @ Jun 11 2007, 05:57 PM) [snapback]1719647[/snapback]
Hello Desty,
I get that you were not paralyzed. When sleep psycologists first heard of this gateway they tried to link it to narcolepsy except that only covered people who were paralyzed during the experiences. They have given it two fancy names. One called Hypnagogia (happening when you drift off to sleep) and the other called Hypnopompic (happening just before waking up) I call both these terms Hypnoblahblah. Because it is a gate. The twilight zone between waking and sleeping which is another world in its own right. The American Indian knows there is no such thing as hallucination. What you hear is something there. What you see is something there. Do not be afraid. Soon someone will come and start sitting down beside you on your bed. They may poke you sometimes. Its going to get stronger. Sometimes you will hear the honking of a loud horn. This is to let you know they are present or that they are coming. Lie still and dont move. Let things occur naturally. Some may lift you up. Dont fight this. (Also) Often your bedcovers will roll over you like waves do, or bubble around you like a cauldron. This may be a slow building experience. Mine was five years. Don't be anxious for it to happen every night. Sometimes it happens only once every three months. Sometimes it happens twice a week. It is also a good jumping off point into Lucid Dreaming.
Lots or Luck
Budhabee

Its weird I heard my friend speaking and I remember a few of the things he said were "I'm sorry" "Come with me I have to show you something" "dude check this out" and just random stuff like that I felt really weird cause it was like he was really speaking to me, so I tried to block his voice. Then I heard jumbles of other people speaking and it was kind of overwhelming. Its kind of crazy if this really is a gate, I mean why me, why you? Have I done anything in this life or are there any habits that contribute to this occurance in my life?
At the end of the "trance" I did lie still and stopped moving it got more intense that when i felt like I was eating paper and my hands were being penetraded by layers and layers of soft chainmail lol. I feel that was the craziest part because I had never experienced that before. When I ate the papery thing I knew I was eating it but it wasnt physical, it didnt taste like physical things tasted. Very hard to explain. I guess it was almost like my astral body was eating it, and my astral body was being influenced upon.
For me it happens much less than once every 3 months but now that its started up again who knows. lol

I'm glad im not alone and I appriciate the info, I guess it was Hypnagogia after all thanks sunni thumbsup.gif Didnt seem to cover enough of the aspects of the experience but it its by far the closest. After reading more about it from difference sources on the internet it sounds even closer.
Madcap
QUOTE(Desty @ Jun 11 2007, 12:33 AM) [snapback]1718324[/snapback]
yes it sounds very similar was your sense of touch enhanced? I heard voices too some were of people i knew saying things but most were of people i didnt know saying things i couldnt quite make out. the one i had last night lasted for about 15 minutes. and I believe that yes it always happened just before i go to sleep, I remember one instance it happened just after i woke up though, I got down was playing my ps2 and i was freaking out cause i could feel every detail of the ps2 controller and i couldnt get over how much detail there was that I had never noticed before,


Yes. My sense of touch was greatly enhanced. A few times I was listening to music before going to sleep (Pink Floyd, Saucerful of Secrets always seemed to be best for this) and it was as though I could feel the music. Each innate change in the song would register as a physical sensation giving me chills or creating the sensation of falling. Very strange.

I think, as a whole, we are far more suspectible to the world around us when we are on the verge of sleep, or within the throes of sleep itself. Our mind is more open and thus, not as likely to blind our senses to what is truly around us. It's a trance akin to meditation.
Desty
QUOTE(Madcap @ Jun 11 2007, 06:58 PM) [snapback]1719717[/snapback]
Yes. My sense of touch was greatly enhanced. A few times I was listening to music before going to sleep (Pink Floyd, Saucerful of Secrets always seemed to be best for this) and it was as though I could feel the music. Each innate change in the song would register as a physical sensation giving me chills or creating the sensation of falling. Very strange.

I think, as a whole, we are far more suspectible to the world around us when we are on the verge of sleep, or within the throes of sleep itself. Our mind is more open and thus, not as likely to blind our senses to what is truly around us. It's a trance akin to meditation.

I think thats true, because when I was in the trance I felt my fingers and my body and they felt differently than what I thought they felt like. They felt what they really felt like not what I want to think they feel like. Kind of like when you think you look like this, yet you really look like that. reality vs our egos basically.

Heres an interesting article on Hypnagogia "I dream, therefore I am"

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Beginning with Aristotle, philosophers and scientists throughout history have been fascinated by the half-dream, half-waking state of hypnagogia. In the third century A.D. the philosopher Iamblichus described the “voices and bright and tranquil light in the condition between sleeping and waking” which he attributed to a divine force. The lurid and eerie illustrations of alchemical manuscripts suggest that alchemists in the Middle Ages may have been inspired by hypnagogiac states during their distillations. In fact, many thinkers and artists including William Blake, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Edgar Allen Poe, Havelock Ellis and Carl Jung were known to make use of the creativity induced by the trance-like state and sensations of hypnagogia


http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/node/227
budhabee
Hello again Desty,
What they were feeding you was a piece of wisdom. It is just like what the Christians call bread. (This is my body you eat.) It may help to read The Nag Hammadi. Unless you have already read it. Also (Those who have ears to listen) hear. There is also a bubbling stream. After you go through the gateway you are in it. It is all around you. As if you were sitting on the bottom of a body of water. What seems to be one of the reasons this has been happening to me is that I cannot talk anymore. (Throat cancer) The Nag Hammadi has a lot to say on (Silence). Are you a quiet person? Also a very reflective person could gain access Im sure. Many people hear the gate, but fear stops them. I am old. Therefore it has made me curious. My curiosity has gotten me through the gate. It doesn't mean I dont get scared sometimes. It just has never stopped me.
Good Luck
Budhabee
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