LucidElement
Jun 11 2007, 04:04 AM
im taking human sexuality, and i gotta question to see what you all think of it..
how is human sexuality going to change in the next 25 years? good or bad.. and why do you think so... its an opinionated question so just wondering what you all will think about it. thanks!
Shankpin
Jun 11 2007, 04:15 AM
Oh definately we are going to learn that our sexuality (so called preferences) will be largely genetic influenced.. imo
LucidElement
Jun 11 2007, 04:19 AM
what do you mean by genetically influenced? like how we raise our kids or what?
Shankpin
Jun 11 2007, 04:39 AM
No, when I say sexuality I mean the chemistry, our innate being (masculine or feminine)... I have a thread on this very subject on the spiritual and beliefs thread..
I believe that our chemistry sometimes doesn't go with our apparatus if that makes sense..
Madcap
Jun 11 2007, 04:44 AM
I think that right now more and more people are experimenting as far as sexuality goes. As in, experiementing with people of their own gender, and developing a more fluid idea of sexuality. Sexuality, in and of itself, doesn't seem to be an extremely set thing, and because of that I feel that within the next 25 years the taboo set around the less conventional sexualities will fall, allowing for a second wave of Free Love thought, in my opinion, at least.
Drego
Jun 11 2007, 05:07 AM
"Taking human sexuality"? As in a class?
Anyway, being slightly misanthropic and pessimistic, I think that (in America) all sexualities will eventually be accepted, but society itself will always hold it at a distance. By this, I mean that it will all be slightly frowned upon by the general public, much like Atheism is today; how employers or landlords may discriminate against people for being an atheist or a homosexual.
However, I believe that there is a .001% chance of a much worse future. I belive that we are on a slippery slope to becoming a country as discriminative as we were not even a century ago. Our military has already proven that it favors a bluntly unconsitutional policy which disposes of several useful, qualified soldiers to a fair and successful policy that would actually benefit the country. This, however is the blatant disreguard of human rights that has always plagued society.
Anyway, back to the future (yes, I see the irony)... Like I said, I believe we are on a slippery slope; luckily, however, we are at the very top of that slope and are not yet picking up any speed.
my_psychosis
Jun 11 2007, 07:21 AM
QUOTE(LucidElement @ Jun 10 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]1718177[/snapback]
what do you mean by genetically influenced? like how we raise our kids or what?
Well Genetics are what your born with, not how your raised.
QUOTE(Madcap @ Jun 10 2007, 11:44 PM) [snapback]1718213[/snapback]
I think that right now more and more people are experimenting as far as sexuality goes. As in, experiementing with people of their own gender, and developing a more fluid idea of sexuality. Sexuality, in and of itself, doesn't seem to be an extremely set thing, and because of that I feel that within the next 25 years the taboo set around the less conventional sexualities will fall, allowing for a second wave of Free Love thought, in my opinion, at least.
I think your right. Some may fight it but it is still happening. For instance Years ago a Bikini was unheard of, now they have nothing but a tiny little string in back. Also girls who got pregnant before marriage were sent away (in hiding to avoid embarrassment) now they are every where. Society is just growing and adapting to whats going on. IMO.
Never_Hit_Nirvana
Jun 11 2007, 02:05 PM
I'm of the other opinion.
I don't think we will ever find a genetic cause for sexuality. It is a learned behavior like anything else.
And I think society will swing back towards a more restrictive view of things since this sort of stuff tends to move in cycles.
Celumnaz
Jun 11 2007, 02:21 PM
barring any major catastrophe and assuming society keeps going on the track it is in "advancing civilization", I'm guessing it'll be something like in "Demolition Man" or something.
Every child planned and "grown" in a lab, devalued sex will be done without swapping bodily fluids - all in the mind... maybe androgyny looked to as the ideal.
With any major catastrophe or failure of centralized control it'd go more towards an animalistic attraction based.... male and female would show their differences in a more pronounced way physically. Becomes more important to the individual.
Edit: I can't read... was only 25 years. sheesh. It'll be headed in these directions but not full androgyns yet...
Madcap
Jun 12 2007, 02:03 AM
QUOTE(Never_Hit_Nirvana @ Jun 11 2007, 07:05 AM) [snapback]1718623[/snapback]
I'm of the other opinion.
I don't think we will ever find a genetic cause for sexuality. It is a learned behavior like anything else.
And I think society will swing back towards a more restrictive view of things since this sort of stuff tends to move in cycles.
It's a learned behavior entirely.

I think I have to agree with Roger Daltrey on this one, that in an ideal world (or rather, in all eventuality) everyone will be bisexual.
I agree with you on the point that most things are cyclical in nature, however, I think that the youth of today is too desensitized to things sexual in nature to take a purely restrictive view of it within the next 25 years. I'm curious as to how you think that would work.
The Mule
Jun 12 2007, 02:13 AM
sexuality? it hasn't "changed" in.....thousands....millions of years! why would it change in the next 25?
glassvampire
Jun 12 2007, 06:46 AM
I think it all depends on what Justin Timberlake does next.
No seriously, I'd hope that the world can be a little more accepting of alternative sexual preferences but I'd like to see people place a little more value on their own sexuality.
I don't know if that makes sense really.
I just don't think that everyone has to be a whore these days.
ya know?
Paranoid Android
Jun 12 2007, 09:36 AM
Before I give my views, I was wondering if LucidElement would mind sharing his views on this subject. What are your first impressions on human sexuality?
My opinion - even in the past 25 years there have been major changes in our approaches to sexuality. It was not so long ago that if a woman showed ankle then she'd be viewed as improper. Now we have mini-skirts and Brittney Spears. it wasn't so long ago that the sanctity of marriage was prized above all things, and people would actually wait until marriage before having sex. Now, if you are still a virgin by the age of 16, many people consider it that there is something wrong with you.
Considering that the trend seems to be all going the one way, from a society with conservative opinions and beliefs on sex to more liberal views on sex, I can't see this trend reversing. To the contrary, things will just keep spiraling further towards a liberal worldview of sex and sexuality.
Regards, PA
Never_Hit_Nirvana
Jun 12 2007, 12:11 PM
QUOTE(Madcap @ Jun 11 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]1719722[/snapback]
It's a learned behavior entirely.

I think I have to agree with Roger Daltrey on this one, that in an ideal world (or rather, in all eventuality) everyone will be bisexual.
I agree with you on the point that most things are cyclical in nature, however, I think that the youth of today is too desensitized to things sexual in nature to take a purely restrictive view of it within the next 25 years. I'm curious as to how you think that would work.
I'm thinking as a side effect of STDs, maybe a version of hyper-AIDS hits or something. Or it could jus tbe a big religious revival. Many reasons why the pendulum would swing back towards restriction.
Mme Mel
Jun 12 2007, 12:33 PM
I think that with all the controversial advances in cutting-edge genetic theory, parents are going to be offered some hare-brained way to "ensure" that their children are born heterosexual. Which probably won't work, because if sexuality was really genetic then no one would ever be curious and prisoners and cruise-ship employees would never find themselves switching sides. And those "cures" might screw things up in other ways ...
SnakeProphet
Jun 12 2007, 03:09 PM
I'm seeing a general rise of sexual activity and need happen. With society becoming more and more desensitivitized, fulfilment of ones basic needs will gradually turn towards the extremes. We as a species are evolving three times too slow, so sooner or later there'll be a break in natural evolution.
Lt_Ripley
Jun 12 2007, 07:25 PM
QUOTE(Never_Hit_Nirvana @ Jun 11 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]1718623[/snapback]
I'm of the other opinion.
I don't think we will ever find a genetic cause for sexuality. It is a learned behavior like anything else.
And I think society will swing back towards a more restrictive view of things since this sort of stuff tends to move in cycles.
uuuummmm not so.
plenty of science is leaning towards human sexuality being part of our genetic make up. a natural occurance. most mammals in nature display permanent homosexuality.
swinging back to a conservative view , which will never happen because at this point you'd have to have a dictatorship to make it possible and that wouldn't change the number of people , it would only hide them like before Stonewall.
hnnjsn
Jun 12 2007, 07:35 PM
adam and eve not adam and steve
Lt_Ripley
Jun 12 2007, 07:40 PM
interesting point about sexual activityand abortion , liberal vs conservative ideals.
ABORTION: According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, during the Clinton years, the abortion rate fell by about 27 percent. A new independent study by an ethics professor at Fuller Theological Seminary finds that today, "contrary to popular assumption, abortion has risen in the U.S. during George W. Bush's presidency."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/31/sot...heck/index.htmlA 2004 study by the Fuller Theological Seminary -- a leading Evangelical Christian divinity school -- showed that a decade long decline in abortion rates in the U.S. during President Clinton's administration has reversed. Glen Stassen, the Lewis B. Smedes Professor of Christian Ethics found that, under President Bush, rising unemployment and soaring healthcare costs have increased the abortion rate. He noted that "economic policy and abortion are not separate issues. They form one moral imperative." Stassen analyzed data from Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life, the Guttmacher Institute, and annual reports by individual state governments. He found that abortion rates declined 17.4% during the 1990s and reached a 24-year low when President Bush took office. "We Hold These Truths" reported that "Many expected that downward trend to continue under the conservative president, but Stassen found the opposite: 52,000 more abortions occurred in 2002 than would have been expected under the pre-2000 conditions, and abortion has risen significantly in those states reporting multi-year abortion statistics."
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_fact1.htm#trends
Celumnaz
Jun 12 2007, 07:51 PM
do you think that's a good or bad thing Lt. Ripley?
Hooligan
Jun 12 2007, 08:37 PM
My Opinion:
I think that our society will become way more corrupt in years to come. I think that the media now approaches the subject of sex so nonchalantly....before it was shocking, now the subject of sex is on every channel you watch.
Also, I think that some of these crazy paraphila's will become more viewed and more practiced as time goes on.
For example, 30 years ago, you had to be all secret and go to the store to buy a magazine or video. Now you can just access the internet and see ANYTHING you want. And when I say anything I mean it.
Anywhere from a toothbrush fetish to messing around with horses.
So just by looking back 10 or 20 years we can see how our culture is evolving to be more sexually open.
my_psychosis
Jun 12 2007, 08:43 PM
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Jun 12 2007, 04:36 AM) [snapback]1720140[/snapback]
Before I give my views, I was wondering if LucidElement would mind sharing his views on this subject. What are your first impressions on human sexuality?
My opinion - even in the past 25 years there have been major changes in our approaches to sexuality. It was not so long ago that if a woman showed ankle then she'd be viewed as improper. Now we have mini-skirts and Brittney Spears. it wasn't so long ago that the sanctity of marriage was prized above all things, and people would actually wait until marriage before having sex. Now, if you are still a virgin by the age of 16, many people consider it that there is something wrong with you.
Considering that the trend seems to be all going the one way, from a society with conservative opinions and beliefs on sex to more liberal views on sex, I can't see this trend reversing. To the contrary, things will just keep spiraling further towards a liberal worldview of sex and sexuality.
Regards, PA
QUOTE(Hooligan @ Jun 12 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]1721100[/snapback]
My Opinion:
I think that our society will become way more corrupt in years to come. I think that the media now approaches the subject of sex so nonchalantly....before it was shocking, now the subject of sex is on every channel you watch.
Also, I think that some of these crazy paraphila's will become more viewed and more practiced as time goes on.
For example, 30 years ago, you had to be all secret and go to the store to buy a magazine or video. Now you can just access the internet and see ANYTHING you want. And when I say anything I mean it.
Anywhere from a toothbrush fetish to messing around with horses.
So just by looking back 10 or 20 years we can see how our culture is evolving to be more sexually open.
I agree with both the above.
Beckys_Mom
Jun 12 2007, 08:45 PM
QUOTE(The Mule @ Jun 12 2007, 03:13 AM) [snapback]1719742[/snapback]
sexuality? it hasn't "changed" in.....thousands....millions of years! why would it change in the next 25?
EXACTLY...
QUOTE(hnnjsn @ Jun 12 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]1721004[/snapback]
adam and eve not adam and steve

Whats it like to live under that big rock of yours?
Beckys_Mom
Jun 12 2007, 08:47 PM
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Jun 12 2007, 10:36 AM) [snapback]1720140[/snapback]
. Now, if you are still a virgin by the age of 16, many people consider it that there is something wrong with you.
Cant see why?? I remained one till I was 22..and held my head PROUD...
Now I am a born again virgin LOL
my_psychosis
Jun 12 2007, 11:46 PM
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jun 12 2007, 03:45 PM) [snapback]1721114[/snapback]
EXACTLY...
Whats it like to live under that big rock of yours?
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jun 12 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]1721119[/snapback]
Cant see why?? I remained one till I was 22..and held my head PROUD...
Good for you.

Kids are into much of a hurry to grow up these days. It's sad really.
moe eubleck
Jun 13 2007, 12:18 AM
QUOTE(my_psychosis @ Jun 12 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]1721333[/snapback]
Good for you.

Kids are into much of a hurry to grow up these days. It's sad really.
.. and old folk are in too big a hurry to get Vi-agra.

ahem... for jet lag
Episteme
Jun 13 2007, 04:59 AM
QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Jun 12 2007, 05:36 AM) [snapback]1720140[/snapback]
Considering that the trend seems to be all going the one way, from a society with conservative opinions and beliefs on sex to more liberal views on sex, I can't see this trend reversing. To the contrary, things will just keep spiraling further towards a liberal worldview of sex and sexuality.
I totally agree. Give it 100 years and I don't think the vast majority will care at all about homosexual and bisexual relationships. There will always be some that care, just as there will always be racists and sexists... let
them be the outcasts. Hopefully people will always continue to raise children with certain morals and standards in regards to abstinence and most get the chance to understand what society portrays isn't what parents expect. I don't see this cycling either, and certainly won't be wearing a full length dress to cover my ankles anytime soon.
As far as environment or learned behavior vs genetics in regards to homosexuality and bisexuality... really, does it matter? It's always happened, our environment just allows us to speak more freely about it right now. Obviously, it
is good for science to learn more about every aspect of human and all animal behavior, but the point of the science isn't to validate the behavior. The behavior is already there, it's a fact. Some people just need to come to terms and get over it already, let people be themselves.
jesspy
Jun 13 2007, 12:14 PM

We wil lall wind up like this guy Cpatain Jack Harkness. Omnisexual. We will have anything lol
seriously i think it will go one of two ways. we will either accept all sexual states or condem all but a few. Either way many toes will be stepped on and not everyone will be happy
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