Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Apparition at the Door
Unexplained Mysteries Discussion Forums > Unexplained Mysteries > Ghosts, Hauntings & The Paranormal
Pages: 1, 2
Regency
I just found this at Ghost Study - I think it's a great photo and story.

In the picture are myself, my wife and my youngest son. My 14 year old son is behind the camera. The photo was taken in the summer of 2004. No one was in the house at the time of the picture being taken. I had not seen this photo until the other day when my son was thumbing thru a photo album and this ghostly figure caught his attention. We have absolutely no idea how a ghost would be in our home and quite frankly we were a little freaked out by it. The house was only 4 years old at the time of the photo. We bought it 6 months after being built. We tried to reflect back on our time in this home to see if we could remember any weird incidents that may have taken place but to no avail. We now longer reside in this house but we are strangely confused by the unknown ghost. We're open to ideas.
boorite
Now that looks like something.
Kroll1
I saw that one before, and I really like this pic.
Its clear and It looks genuine (just another family shot)
Nile_Shaman
Strange, I looked at it, and immediately felt it was a relative, passed, perhaps a sister or aunt...fairly close.

But, you'd assume they'd know that when they saw the pic...

*shrugs* oh well original.gif

NS
Loonboy


Hmmm.

It doesn't appear to be a direct reflection of anything. It looks like a figure.

Hard to rule either way.

geek.gif
soel
It is very interesting to note that in most cases the one taking the photo isn't aware there's a ghost. Could digital cameras be able to photograph a wider scale of wavelengths?
JustNormal
I have seen that photo before too, and it is pretty amazing. Thanks Reg- unsure.gif
Pigmonkey
it could easily be faked, but i like to be open, even if it is fake i like the picture anyways
Banana Man
Whatever it is, it creeps me out.
Nile_Shaman
It is a great picture, though, for sure.

There's been a lot of talk on the forums here about alternate dimensions and time and stuff, and it occurred to me to wonder if it was possible for the "ghost" to be of one of them while they're still alive, sort of like after death they wandered back to see the old pile and got in the pic. Kind of a visual premonition? The ghost does resemble the woman a lot, actually. Maybe that is why "sister/aunt" struck me for no known reason. Subconcious connection as I looked at it the first time.

Kinda wierd if the woman died later and turned up twice in her own pic.

ooh... or how about her doppelganger ?! w00t.gif

NS
Watchful
QUOTE(Nile_Shaman @ Jun 11 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]1719593[/snapback]
It is a great picture, though, for sure.

There's been a lot of talk on the forums here about alternate dimensions and time and stuff, and it occurred to me to wonder if it was possible for the "ghost" to be of one of them while they're still alive, sort of like after death they wandered back to see the old pile and got in the pic. Kind of a visual premonition? The ghost does resemble the woman a lot, actually.

To me, the figure in the doorwindow, kind of looks like she has blond hair, (unlike the living woman), and looks younger than the living woman too.
Episteme
Got a larger version? I know if I had something that looked so real, I'd certainly be providing the original higher quality (larger) version.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 12 2007, 01:00 AM) [snapback]1719649[/snapback]
Got a larger version? I know if I had something that looked so real, I'd certainly be providing the original higher quality (larger) version.


We really cant make it larger on here, but it does look like the woman has something on her stomach. She does not look very old, and possibly had either died on the property or something of that nature..






JustNormal
QUOTE(Stubbly_Dooright @ Jun 12 2007, 12:54 AM) [snapback]1719640[/snapback]
To me, the figure in the doorwindow, kind of looks like she has blond hair, (unlike the living woman), and looks younger than the living woman too.


Yes she does look young and I think pregnant. Seems she is waiting for someone to come "home" unsure.gif
Barek Halfhand
Who noticed this your son?.......how does he feel about it?.....B

linked-image
Nile_Shaman
Blonde? Interesting. I still think she looks darker haired. I had thought pregnant, too, or very wistful and the stomache lightness may have been her hand holding up the long skirts. In Barek's negative, it almost appears like there is a smaller child standing in front of her.

Youngish, yeah, maybe 17 or 18. When I said aunt, I was thinking of my brother, who was an uncle when he was in his teens.

But, if it was kin they ought to have known it, so that isn't a player. Just some subconcious sense of connecting her to the woman.

NS
Episteme
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jun 11 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]1719659[/snapback]
We really cant make it larger on here, but it does look like the woman has something on her stomach.

Looks pretty geometric, maybe just a fancy glass pattern?

linked-image
JustNormal
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 12 2007, 03:13 AM) [snapback]1719821[/snapback]
Looks pretty geometric, maybe just a fancy glass pattern?

linked-image


I dont think so, but its all in the eye of the beholder... yes.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jun 12 2007, 01:55 AM) [snapback]1719715[/snapback]
Who noticed this your son?.......how does he feel about it?.....B

linked-image


Are you talking to me BF or OP? unsure.gif
Episteme
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jun 11 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]1719830[/snapback]
I dont think so, but its all in the eye of the beholder... yes.gif


Maybe this will help, you can see a design on the top portion of the glass on this one.

linked-image
JustNormal
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 12 2007, 03:59 AM) [snapback]1719898[/snapback]
Maybe this will help, you can see a design on the top portion of the glass on this one.

linked-image


You are correct, but that is above her head, right? The door had a disign I believe. I am confused now LOL
Jennie 1
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 11 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1719898[/snapback]
Maybe this will help, you can see a design on the top portion of the glass on this one.

linked-image



I think you're right Episteme, but I can see the design much more clearly in the OP's pic. I just don't know how to make it as big as the one you are posting. thumbsup.gif
Nile_Shaman
This looks like one of those smoky glass insets with a regular pattern through it, which cuts over the figure in places as if it is standing behind the door actually, not in front of the glass, which is a bit more persuasive to me as a potential real ghost/honest optical illusion they really can't explain.

And, Man, that really does look like a small kid in front of the form. Two ghosts? I thought it was just her hand in the original post pic.

NS
Episteme
I was just suggesting that the thing in the figure's stomach could potentially be a design in the glass or an illusion created by it. Or it may not be... With such a small photo it's difficult to tell. Really, it's my big beef with these more realistic looking photos. If I had something suspected to be paranormal, I'd want to eliminate every other possibility to prove it to be truly authentic. Posting a tiny pic just makes it hard to detail and starts people wondering about a hoax right from the start.

Cyqe, I used photoshop, what editor are you using? Enlarging degrades the image (as you can see) so I try to avoid it when I can. PM me if you like and I can give you tips on yours or send you a link to a free one.
Almighty89
laugh.gif

You guys didn't think that maybe.. there's just someone standing there, a real person? rolleyes.gif
Why does it always have to be a ghost?
Nile_Shaman
QUOTE(BlackDeath @ Jun 11 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]1719951[/snapback]
laugh.gif

You guys didn't think that maybe.. there's just someone standing there, a real person? rolleyes.gif
Why does it always have to be a ghost?


Because, the person who took the picture says nobody was inside. For that matter, why does it always have to be a person and/or faked?

Bottom line, who cares? We're enjoying ourselves legally, with a fun picture to speculate over. Our conclusions will not change your world one tiny bit, so relax, and be careful with all that eye rolling and those faces you make. Urban legends say your face might freeze that way.

*hands Death a cold beer*

NS
Regency
QUOTE(Nile_Shaman @ Jun 12 2007, 05:57 AM) [snapback]1719959[/snapback]
Bottom line, who cares? We're enjoying ourselves legally, with a fun picture to speculate over. Our conclusions will not change your world one tiny bit, so relax, and be careful with all that eye rolling and those faces you make. Urban legends say your face might freeze that way.

*hands Death a cold beer*

NS


I agree - it is interesting looking at these photos and discussing them.
Regency
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jun 12 2007, 02:55 AM) [snapback]1719715[/snapback]
Who noticed this your son?.......how does he feel about it?.....B

linked-image



I didn't take this photo, B - I found it on Ghost Study, I'd never seen it before.

Reg
Nile_Shaman
QUOTE(Regency @ Jun 12 2007, 02:22 AM) [snapback]1720064[/snapback]
I agree - it is interesting looking at these photos and discussing them.


This is a great pic you dug up for us, Regency. More fun than most to hash over and mess with original.gif.

Thanks!

NS
Kroll1
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 12 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]1719940[/snapback]
Enlarging degrades the image (as you can see) so I try to avoid it when I can.

If you want to enlarge the image without degrading the quality – you can hold down the ”CTRL- button” while you scroll your mouse-wheel.
Watchful
What I did, was save it to my 'pictures' folder on my computer, and it was from there that I could enlarge it with out that much degragation. I don't know, or either have forgotten how to save it as the changed size and then post it here. It was from this way, I could surmize that the figure in the door, looked blond. It is just the way the hair flows, with dark shadows coming from underneath it.
I may have not read it or missed it, but I wonder if that door was there all the time. To me, it looks like a very updated door, and the figure seems more to be wearing old fashion nightdress. I could be wrong. My thinking is, can a figure still show itself, if the original door could have been fully covered?
soel
Here's a larger picture for you : http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2047.html
Jennie 1
Thank you soel! thumbsup.gif
Episteme
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Jun 12 2007, 04:12 AM) [snapback]1720090[/snapback]
If you want to enlarge the image without degrading the quality – you can hold down the "CTRL- button" while you scroll your mouse-wheel.

Unfortunately that still degrades it, that way it just blends the pixels a bit better. Try doing it more and more and you'll see what I mean, just no way to create pixels that aren't there. Soel's version will help (thanks!). But now I have to go work... sad.gif
Kroll1
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 12 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]1720932[/snapback]
Unfortunately that still degrades it, that way it just blends the pixels a bit better. Try doing it more and more and you'll see what I mean, just no way to create pixels that aren't there. Soel's version will help (thanks!). But now I have to go work... sad.gif

Hmmm – you are right – It might have something to do with the screen – but I can zoom in a lot before I get significant degradation.
Anyway, its good you found a way to do it.
Have a nice day at work thumbsup.gif
HowdyDoo
Wow, definitely a great picture. Much more believable than those that seem to "center in" on the ghost.

It doesn't look like simply a distortion or reflection of the glass. My bet is on a ghost--or there was someone in the house and they just don't remember it--after all, they had put the photo away and found it later--long enough to forgot there may have had someone in their house on that day.
Banana Man
When I first saw it I kept looking behind me, its just creepy.
CAptain Scuttle Tew
QUOTE(Kroll1 @ Jun 12 2007, 07:11 PM) [snapback]1720948[/snapback]
Hmmm – you are right – It might have something to do with the screen – but I can zoom in a lot before I get significant degradation.
Anyway, its good you found a way to do it.
Have a nice day at work thumbsup.gif

Ahoy,
I saw this photo on Ghost Study and found it very interesting. I’m not much of a photo buff, so I don’t really know what can and can’t be faked. Obviously as with any ghost photo, it is almost impossible to say it is genuine. I guess it is like Sherlock Holms said, “Once you have ruled out everything else, what ever you are left with must be the truth.” With that in mind, the one thing I’m noticing is that the colors on the tops of the banisters and in other parts of the picture are the same as the colors of the “ghost.” There seems to be a lot of light saturation in places. To me, that says some kind of a reflection. I think it could be a combination of light reflection, the design in the door glass frame and waves in the glass itself acting as a kind of prism. Can anyone tell if there is a second door behind that door? If this is a storm door, can anyone see if the inner door is open or closed?
Watchful
I now saved the picture from the link that Soel has graciously supplied, and I also enlarged this one. I still see the figure in the door, but I now noticed the design imbeded in the window of the door. It looks like to me, that the figure is both in front and behind the disign of the door glass. If that makes sense, does it?

Also, does anyone notice about four white dots, two on the door, and two off to the side of the door? The two off to the side, looks like it's over the more narrow glass that is part of the door. I find it wierd, that the each white dots are over the glass windows that are part of the front door. Enlarging the picture on my computer, they look like they were not originally not part of the environment.
Regency
I've had a fiddle with it too - I've clarified it a couple of times.Click to view attachment
HowdyDoo
QUOTE(Regency @ Jun 12 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]1721163[/snapback]
I've had a fiddle with it too - I've clarified it a couple of times.Click to view attachment

Wow, you can really make out features...it even looks too spooky to be a real person, like I was thinking at first. Very neat.
soel
You're welcome happy.gif
moe eubleck
hmm. that poor man really ought to apply sun block to his forehead no.gif
Nile_Shaman
QUOTE(Stubbly_Dooright @ Jun 12 2007, 01:20 PM) [snapback]1720848[/snapback]
My thinking is, can a figure still show itself, if the original door could have been fully covered?


I think they can. I have heard lots of stories about Roman soldiers walking along at knee level on modern pavement, for example, because the Roman level of the road was beneath the surface now, and others walking through walls that were newer than their own lifetime.

If this was a residual type of manifestation, then it might well have done so and ignored the actual plane of (non-existent in it's time) door.

Or, in this case, it may have been active and showed up to be with the family and happened to get caught on film.

Or, as has been said it is no ghost, just someone in the house they forgot was there. But, since they say no, I'd have to say this is a pretty good ghost pic, if true. Reg did us good original.gif.

NS
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Regency @ Jun 12 2007, 02:23 AM) [snapback]1720065[/snapback]
I didn't take this photo, B - I found it on Ghost Study, I'd never seen it before.

Reg
I was going to say it has your address right on the side grin2.gif
....could it be something semi transparent taped to the inside of the door?... unsure on this one...B






halfhandshuffle:Arch Enemy - Nemesis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9AcG0glVu4
Episteme
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 12 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]1720981[/snapback]
My bet is on a ghost--or there was someone in the house and they just don't remember it--after all, they had put the photo away and found it later--long enough to forgot there may have had someone in their house on that day.

Agreed. They mentioned another son, who could be the person at the door. Maybe he wasn't the one with the camera and was ill that day and watching from the door. Though the figure appears more like a female to me, it could be a boy in a robe. Quote taken from the coast to coast link:

QUOTE
In the picture are myself, my wife and my youngest son. My 14 year old son is behind the camera. The photo was taken in the summer of 2004.


QUOTE(Stubbly_Dooright @ Jun 12 2007, 05:05 PM) [snapback]1721142[/snapback]
Also, does anyone notice about four white dots, two on the door, and two off to the side of the door? The two off to the side, looks like it's over the more narrow glass that is part of the door. I find it wierd, that the each white dots are over the glass windows that are part of the front door. Enlarging the picture on my computer, they look like they were not originally not part of the environment.

They're a little more noticable below. They almost look like part of the design, kind of like the centers of flowers, maybe sun reflecting off beveled glass (the sun seems to be coming from behind the photographer, at least by looking at the man's sunglasses). But maybe it's just an odd effect from pixelation that comes with jpeg compression. Seems like that side window would be an odd place to put a beveled design when the rest looks striped - but maybe that's blinds... *shrugs*

Close up of bottom left white flare:
linked-image

linked-image

Actually after looking at it for awhile I'm seeing all kinds of faces. The clearest is above her left shoulder, looks like the head of a balding man - the Dad's doppleganger! Or maybe just a photo on the wall. An alien face below him and in the side window too... yep, I've been staring at it too long! blink.gif

QUOTE(moe eubleck @ Jun 12 2007, 06:49 PM) [snapback]1721252[/snapback]
hmm. that poor man really ought to apply sun block to his forehead no.gif

yes.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 13 2007, 02:33 AM) [snapback]1721562[/snapback]
Agreed. They mentioned another son, who could be the person at the door. Maybe he wasn't the one with the camera and was ill that day and watching from the door. Though the figure appears more like a female to me, it could be a boy in a robe. Quote taken from the coast to coast link:
They're a little more noticable below. They almost look like part of the design, kind of like the centers of flowers, maybe sun reflecting off beveled glass (the sun seems to be coming from behind the photographer, at least by looking at the man's sunglasses). But maybe it's just an odd effect from pixelation that comes with jpeg compression. Seems like that side window would be an odd place to put a beveled design when the rest looks striped - but maybe that's blinds... *shrugs*

Close up of bottom left white flare:
linked-image

linked-image

Actually after looking at it for awhile I'm seeing all kinds of faces. The clearest is above her left shoulder, looks like the head of a balding man - the Dad's doppleganger! Or maybe just a photo on the wall. An alien face below him and in the side window too... yep, I've been staring at it too long! blink.gif
yes.gif



LOL Stop looking at it, or you will see more and more images that are not even there LOL.. laugh.gif
Episteme
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jun 12 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]1721567[/snapback]
LOL Stop looking at it, or you will see more and more images that are not even there LOL.. laugh.gif

I wonder what my doctor would do if I told him I was sick with pareidolia. *cough cough* innocent.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 13 2007, 02:43 AM) [snapback]1721574[/snapback]
I wonder what my doctor would do if I told him I was sick with pareidolia. *cough cough* innocent.gif


LOL Probably give you a Prozac the size of a basketball? yes.gif
Watchful
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jun 12 2007, 10:33 PM) [snapback]1721562[/snapback]
They're a little more noticable below. They almost look like part of the design, kind of like the centers of flowers, maybe sun reflecting off beveled glass (the sun seems to be coming from behind the photographer, at least by looking at the man's sunglasses). But maybe it's just an odd effect from pixelation that comes with jpeg compression. Seems like that side window would be an odd place to put a beveled design when the rest looks striped - but maybe that's blinds... *shrugs*
*Slaps head in stupidification* I should have realized! You're right, Episteme. The picture shows how sunny it is, and of course the shape of glass would give off a sharp pin point of glare.

Well, atleast my little mystery is solved! *Shrugs*
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2008 Invision Power Services, Inc.