QUOTE(SaRuMaN @ Jun 11 2007, 08:52 AM) [snapback]1718358[/snapback]

[b]“The doctors all pronounced him dead. It’s disgraceful and very upsetting. I don’t think they should get away with it.”

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Times OnlineWhat is it about the medical staff doing their seeming (from the little bit of info given here) best, with the training and information that they have to work with, that's disgraceful and upsetting? If they worked on him for half an hour as stated, what is there that they shouldn't get away with? Going on what's presented here, it seems as if the caregivers were doing their utmost. Are they supposed to be miracle workers? IOW, as far as current knowledge goes now, they seem to have been using their best efforts, so.... why is this person so quick to blame them and try to make them look incompetent? The person quoted seems to expect the medical staff to transcend the limited earthly medical understanding of death.
There is no guarantee that humanity has reached full and complete understanding of the death process; we are going on observation and study, yes, but it is certainly possible that we have missed something, and it is possible that people continue being conscious, or alive, unconscious and unresponsive with no vital signs, without our knowing about it. If it is possible that death can take place with complete, irreversible finality, later than we currently think it does; and this case represents one of those rare cases where this can be showcased to us; then how is a staff made up of people who have been educated in schools teaching the current medical knowledge, supposed to "know," based on their current educational input, something they couldn't know? They only know what they've been taught in school, which is a considerable amount, of course, a whole lot by anyone's standards. Can they be held responsible for not having access to knowledge that science can not even prove?
IOW if science believes that after a certain amount of time, death is certain and irreversible, and that is what they have been taught; isn't it fair to say that they did the best that they knew how to do? The person quoted is assuming (it seems) that they missed some kind of obvious sign, or made some kind of gross error; this person speaking doesn't seem to want to acknowledge that it is possible that what we think we "know" about death might be incorrect, and that given this case (and a few scattered others similar to it, that I have seen) it might be a case of incomplete understanding of the process, rather than negligence on the part of the medical staff. But.... I'm sure they will sue...

Of course it is hard to tell based on the little info presented here, but this is MO.