ASTROLOGICAL TRANSITS
MERCURY RETROGRADE - JUNE 15 JULY 10, 2007
By Theodore White, Classical Scientific Astrologer

The planet Mercury will turn stationary retrograde on Friday, June 15 at 11-degrees tropical Cancer, and will remain retrograde until turning direct on July 9/10 at 2-degrees Cancer. A planet is retrograde when it appears from the perspective of a person on Earth that the planet is moving backward in the Zodiac.

Mercury’s retrograde occurs three (3) times a year, and often does so in the same element (earth, air, fire, water.) This year, Mercury’s retrogrades are in the element of water.

Mercury’s retrograde usually brings along disruptions in communications related to the element, and its position in the zodiac.

From June 15 to July 10, Mercury will be retrograde in the tropical constellation of Cancer, and after turning direct on July 9/10 will move slowly until picking up speed in late July, and early August 2007.

When Mercury is slow, people tend to have problems communicating. Slow responses, mistakes, poor scheduling, and major technical disruptions that affect travel, professional and personal progress. These common problems in society and daily living are doubled and become more frequent during such retrogrades of Mercury, and

Look to these areas for unexpected disruptions, slowdowns, failures in negotiations, and overall frustrations ~

Ø Equipment breakdowns, computers, engines, telephones, technical disruptions, etc.
Ø Problems affecting the House, water, food, household appliances, the yard.
Ø Transportation problems, slowdowns, airlines, trains, vehicles, etc.
Ø Late shipments, misprints, production problems due to malfunction of small parts, etc.
Ø Slow decision making by others, labor slowdowns, increased labor strikes
Ø Mistakes in decisions, poor judgments
Ø Mail disruptions
Ø People constantly rescheduling, cancellations, etc.
Ø Illnesses related to food & drink

During times of Mercury’s retrogrades, expect slowdowns in communications with people often changing plans, being indecisive, unsure, that often that lead to widespread confusion. The results are missed appointments, loss of work and profit, and general frustration because things are not operating normally.

Because this particular Mercury retrograde takes place about a week before the Summer Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, the summer season will start off disrupted, slow, with confusing situations developing as people allow themselves to be affected by the transit.

This has ramifications for the rest of summer and the fall season, when another Mercury retrograde in Scorpio, begins in October, causing more disruptions, especially economically, which carries over into the coming Christmas season.

HOW TO POSITIVELY HANDLE THE MERCURY RETROGRADE

Astrologically and practically, the best way to handle such problems is to take the time to avoid signing contracts and making promises one cannot keep during such retrogrades of Mercury. It is best to use the Mercury retrograde cycle to take the time to think over all the consequences of decisions and actions that are possible while not settling on a plan of action until after the retrograde is over.

These retrogrades sometimes can become blessings in disguise because it allows time for unresolved issues and decisions to be re-considered. Business and personal affairs can be carefully thought over while allowing for unfinished tasks that were started before the retrograde to be handled with more introspective and wiser action and thought ~ allowing for practical decisions to come to light.

The frustrations will come for those people in a rush, which is something that is not wise to do during these retrogrades. Those people on vacation can expect problems before and during travel. Expect delays with airline travel, lost luggage, and overall frustrations for those trying to get somewhere fast during the retrograde cycle throughout mid-June to the late July, overall.

Mercury’s retrograde in mid-June to July lasts throughout the entire month of July because right after Mercury heads stationary direct, the transit continues to be slower than normal. This will last to about July 24, when Mercury picks up speed.

Avoid starting new projects until after the retrograde. The best date to wait until doing so is August 7, when Jupiter heads direct in motion. All important decisions like signing contracts, buying and selling houses, starting a new business, etc., should be held off until after the Mercury retrograde is over, and it picks up speed in late July.

For more on Mercury's retrogrades, see ~

http://www.cafeastrology.com/mercuryretrograde.html

http://www.astrologycom.com/mercret.html

http://www.karmastrology.com/mercrx.shtml

http://voxx.org/2007/02/28/mercury-retrograde-explained/


ASTROLOGICAL TRANSITS
WHAT ARE THEY?
AND HOW TO USE TRANSITS TO ACHIEVE GOALS PRACTICALLY

ASTRO TRANSITS FOR 2007
A Transition Year

Planetary transits are the reason for what we call Time. Without the motion of the Earth, Sun, Moon, planets and stars, time itself would not exist. The ticking of all clocks are Earth are timed to the rotation of the Earth according to the region one is located on our planet.

Astrological transits are more complex. There are the aspects formed between positions of the planets at any given time in relationship to the positions of other planets. These are mathematical aspects made from the positions of the Sun, Moon, planets and stars relative to the Earth. These transits are always changing, always in motion, like the Earth.

Over the centuries, classical astrologers built up an extensive analogue database of observed influences in nature, and among humanity from astrological transits.

World Transits for the new Astrological Year of 2007 show that this year is a major transition year leading to the years 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011, and the start of the second decade of the 21st Century.

Transition and change is the major theme for 2007 as global transits show a series of new planetary changes this year that will translate into strong transits during the years 2008-2011.

One such sign is the retrograde of Jupiter at 19-SAGITTARIUS earlier in April 2007, and the other is the recent direct motion of the planet Saturn (April 19) that will take Saturn into tropical Virgo in September 2007 for its long transit in the constellation as the first decade of the 21st century comes to a close. Jupiter will turn stationary direct on August 7, 2007.

Transits from April to August 2007 continue to indicate a need to re-assess, and to prepare for the next decade. Economic and social matters are highlighted.

This summer is NOT the best summer to travel. Expect delays, higher gasoline prices, poor housing and real estate news. higher costs overall, generally stressful situations over the summer & autumn months.

Next spring & summer of 2008 have much better travel transits than the spring & summer of 2007.

At this time in Spring 2007, transiting Venus continue to rise and set after the Sun. Venus is in evening star cycle, helping those who seek to complete unresolved projects and issues since 2006.

By August 18, 2007, Venus will turn to Morning Star cycle ~ at 24-LEO, retrograde, opening a new mini-era that is preceded by the direct motion of Jupiter (Aug. 6, 2007) and followed by the ingress of Saturn into tropical Virgo on September 2, 2007.

The year of 2007 shows a need to re-adjust to changes, resisting too much impulsive acts (Sagittarius) while looking ahead at the ingresses of Jupiter in Capricorn (December 2007) and Saturn's ingress into Virgo (Sept. 2007) as signs to focus on PRACTICAL MATTERS, goals and objectives.

One of the major aspects taking place over Spring 2007 in the Northern Hemisphere, and Autumn 2007 in the Southern Hemisphere is the fire trine between a retrograde Jupiter in Sagittarius and a direct Saturn transiting tropical Leo.

This fire trine is useful for planning, and acting on future goals and objectives, using the months of April, May, June, and July to make changes that focus on what is practical and achievable. Those who use these transits well will experience success when Jupiter and Saturn translate into the Earth signs of Virgo (Saturn) and Capricorn (Jupiter) by January 2008.

The earth trine of Jupiter & Saturn in 2008 will cover the entire year, providing those who have used the transition year of 2007 to pre-act in several areas of life ~ mainly economics, and those things relating to housing, relocations, career, and relationships.

However, the transits of 2007 will be challenging to those who are not prepared, and it is advised for those who are aware of transits to carefully navigate the remaining months of the year 2007.

REASONS:

The most challenging transits this summer and autumn of 2007 will be those involving Venus, Saturn, and the Dragon's Tail, or the transiting South Lunar Node, now in Virgo.

Venus performs a retrograde (July 27 to September 6, 2007) in tropical Virgo and Leo that involves two conjunctions to the planet Saturn.

The first happens in the first week of July 2007 in Leo and the second conjunction of Venus/Saturn occurs in the third week of October 2007 in Virgo along with the South Lunar Node.

This is a mostly malefic transit, and can help bring about negative emotional and physical environments in society (Venus) due to the restrictive (Saturn) influences of this combination of transits.

Because of the Venus retrograde, summer in the northern hemisphere is extended through the traditional fall months, well into mid-November, when the cool of fall will arrive, but not mid-autumn, until the month of December 2007.

The Venus/Saturn conjunctions of early July, and again, in mid-October means that summer in the northern hemisphere will not be all that most people expect it will be. In fact, the summer months are extended deep into the fall months, meaning that many people will be unprepared for the holiday season of December, and the translation into the Earth signs of Jupiter and Saturn.

Venus/Saturn transits are not the best for positive environments. Moreover, the summer months of August sees the coming of a Mars-Jupiter opposition along the Gemini-Sagittarius axis. This begins in August 2007, and continues into September 2007, and influences increased worldwide impulsiveness that leaves many things unresolved, and sets a climate for the second Venus/Saturn conjunction with the Dragon’s Tail in October.

Conjunctions to the South Lunar Node can be mostly malefic. With Venus and Saturn in conjunction in early Virgo along with the Dragon's Tail, it is wise to avoid heavy commitments in relationships and to not draw lines in the sand, so to speak, on those relationships.

The October 2007 conjunction of Venus-Saturn & South Lunar Node in Virgo calls to avoid confrontations, and to maintain a low profile while working through the summer and fall months to prepare for 2008. One way to discover what October's events may be is to look at what is happening in early July 2007, when the first Venus/Saturn conjunction in Leo will take place.

Summer weather is extended in 2007, through autumn in the northern hemisphere. In many ways, 2007 is a strange year for many, as changes are forced on others not prepared for them because of complacency during 2004, 2005 and 2006.

However, Venus will turn from evening star to morning star on Saturday, August 18, allowing those who have used the spring months to plan to make changes ahead of time that will catch many others off-guard by October, and last into December, when the Lunar Nodes translate from mutable to fixed ~ from the constellational axis of Pisces/Virgo to that of Aquarius/Leo.

This is critical, because as the transiting Lunar Nodes translate from mutable water/earth to fixed air/fire on December 17/18, 2007 ~ the planet Jupiter will enter tropical Capricorn the same day and Saturn will retrograde at 8-VIRGO the next day.

This shows December 2007 as a change in era ~ and opens the transit doors to a new era that takes the world into the last two years of the first decade of the century, while forecasting more to come into the decade of the 2010s.

The translation of Saturn into tropical Virgo, and Jupiter into Capricorn, and their earth trines (exact in January/February 2008) and again (October, November, December 2008) reflect a new era that is practical, and goal-oriented. Expect a down-to-earth transit here that is highly active via trine aspect and can be of great use for those planning to make changes overall in their lifestyle.

It is also an excellent time for further planning for the decade of the 2010s, which are challenging because of the transits ~ mainly after the three (3) Jupiter-Saturn oppositions (2010-2011) and the long-running Uranus-Pluto square in that decade.

To navigate the spring, summer & fall of 2007, it is best to use the times in-between retrogrades of Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter to make the switch into the year that 2008 will become, according to transits. Those who do so successfully will be rewarded by the earth trine of Jupiter and Saturn in 2008.

Plan ahead for Christmas 2007 by purchasing during the summer months. Saturn's influence is strong in the months leading to Christmas, and restrictive from its transit in tropical Virgo.

The best way to take advantage of these mundane transits is to buy months ahead of Christmas, looking for bargains, storing away, and wait for the fall season to pass by.

Jupiter rises ahead of the Sun, in early Capricorn, on the Full Moon day of December 23, 2007, with a Moon in Cancer, just coming off a conjunction with Mars in Cancer. Christmas 2007 is not all the great because of the drag on the economy. The year 2007 will have a been a mini-recession year, with housing a drag on the economy.

Moreover, the transiting Lunar Nodes will have translated into fixed signs by mid-December 2007 with the North Node entering Aquarius, and the South Node entering Leo. This era will last 20 months until August 2009, when the transiting lunar nodes translate into Capricorn/Cancer.

The Key Is To Navigate 2007
Mid-June to Late July - Mercury is slow, re-consider, plan, take no action until early August
August 2007 - make changes, noting the dates of August 7, and August 18
August 2007 to November 2007 - low profile, focus on 2008
November 2007 - December 2007 - relax & resolve
December 18, 2007 - new era begins lasting to August 2009.

The Jupiter-Saturn 2008 earth trine has better opportunities for those who want to advance their goals and objectives, particularly in areas relating to economics ~ including housing and real estate.

For instance, expect national foreclosure rates to continue to expand because of the busting of the mortgage lending bubble, while housing prices continue to fall with housing starts numbers also continuing to decline over 2007.

The ability to reduce debt, while at the same time navigating through 2007 to get to 2008's excellent transits, is best. Avoiding impulsiveness, and hasty actions can be helped by the retrograde of Jupiter (April to August 2007) using the transit of Saturn to look ahead and prepare for 2008 and beyond.


TRANSIT NOTES FOR 2007

Ø Restrict Travel Plans Over Summer/Fall 2007
Ø Stay Home, Plan for 2008, reduce debt
Ø Avoid too much socializing
Ø Wait to start new relationships until November 2007
Ø Maintain lower profile
Ø Use date of Venus' Morning Star (Aug. 18, 2007) for new affirmations, planning, reaching goals.
Ø Monitor Financial Markets, Plan for 2008

Those who navigate the world transits well will be in prime position to utilize 2008’s transits towards achieving goals and objectives that are practically-based, and planned for in advance.

Exactly where is the accuracy here? You have covered everything that could possibly happen and therefore guarantee the "accoruacy" of your "predictions". This is just like the weather report you forecast and posted. I still need to pick that weather report apart btw. I just havent had the time but I already know what I will find. There is nothing special here. If you believe that these predictions apply to you then you will make them apply to you in some form. Computer strokes out? Darn it I knew I shouldn't have tried to update Windows while Mercury is circling Uranus.

These are nothing more than vague predictions designed to appeal to the masses and thus make people believe in this stuff.

Hmm lets see.. illnesses related to food and drink. This only makes sense but is no prediction it is called logical thinking. The weather is getting warmer and more people are having parties/picnics/dinners outside. How about leaving food out in this heat can spoil it and consuming said spoiled food can make you sick? People partying more and consuming more alcohol than during other times of the year and getting sick? Certain diseases are more active during the weather and bugs(namely house flies) are more active as well. Fly lands on your food and leaves a little bio-hazard behind. Food related illnesses increase in the summer months? Makes sense but it is certainly no hoodoo voodoo planet position at work.

Equipment problems? Warmer weather equals more people using air conditioners and then we get brown outs. Engines overheat because the thermostat went bad over the winter and you only figure it out about half way home from work on a warm day. Warmer weather makes oil and other lubrication thinner and less effective. More breakdowns due to wear and tear. People are driving farther in the summer months so that is more wear on the car. Pushing your car harder and farther than its been since this time last year is bound to bring out problems. Not the mention the fact that your Equipment and House problems prediction above are not accurate. You have covered everything from the car, to the household compute, to the phone at work and bugs eating your lawn alive. Could we please be specific?

Transportation problems? More people are traveling during these months. More people. More of a strain on everything. Problems happen. Mercury has nothing to do with it outside of the stuff in a thermometer. People hate to fly and the airlines aren't helping to flying is out. More people drive and there are more accidents, traffic and construction. More people are traveling by bus/train now because of this so the chinks in the system come to light. So basically unless you are walking transportation problems abound. One doesn't need foresight or a star chart to see this.

Late shipments? Nothing new here. There are lot shipments everyday but because of equipments breakdowns(explained above) things will be late. Nothing special here. Misprints? Hmm nice weather outside and people are stuck inside at work looking out at people enjoying the weatherand from a guys perspective women wear less clothing in this weather. Any odd chance ones mind might wander? I have a feeling a misprint is going to happen. Small parts failing? You mean those little ones that do not get inspected regularly like the more "important" parts? Makes sense that these would fail at the worse possible time. Like before nothing to see here but logic.

Slow decisions.mistakes in decisions & poor judgments? People taking long weekends. People leaving early on Fridays etc. Certain businesses become insanely busy during the warmer months(like my own field) People are rushed to get work done because of the summer rush. People are distracted by wanting to be anywhere but work. People are overworked. Bosses take weeks off and leave lower ladder rung standers to make decisions. Can anyone see the potential for errors, mistake and delays here or is it just me.

Mail disruptions. Isn't this a rehash of the late shipments above and kind of the transportation issues. Again it makes sense my mail order astrology chart is going to be late because the delivery truck broke down or the like. Only logic to be found here.

People constantly rescheduling, cancellations, etc? Again people taking vacations. Wanting to take sudden long weekend. People having to cancel due to the sun baked potato salad they ate that weekend. Someone partied a little to hard on a weeknight and calls off. Peoples cars breaking down or they can not make the flight or whatever. Companies over extending themselves(like mine) and having to tell good customers we won't be able to deliver our end of the contract.

Again I say why does this all make good logical sense without the need of astrological hoodoo voodoo? There is a reason the predictions of astrologers(psychics/palm reader/bone throwers/entrail readers/scam artists) are so accurate. It is because the accurate predictions aren't. Get it?

Kevin A.

Kevin, I suggest you re-read it, and stop imposing your own issues on what I've written. It is a report on Astrological Transits. Stop seeing what you want in everything while exposing your own ignnorance, which you have made in your comments above.

And, if there's "nothing special" here as you say Kevin, then why would you spend considerable time of your own commenting on "nothing special" in the first place?

Now, I don't "throw bones" nor read "palms" or any of that junk which you have some silly idea of. I am a classical scientific astrologer. Reports like the one I've written above are not produced by "bone throwers" and comments like yours are produced by ignorant individuals who should do more reading and learning about transits than making comments as you do.

I suggest you learn about Mercury retrogrades in general and astrological transits in particular rather than making things up that have no basis in truth ~ whatsoever. Got that?

Oh and don't forget the sounds advice passed off as soon important prediction.

Ø Restrict Travel Plans Over Summer/Fall 2007
Ø Stay Home, Plan for 2008, reduce debt
Ø Avoid too much socializing
Ø Wait to start new relationships until November 2007
Ø Maintain lower profile
Ø Use date of Venus' Morning Star (Aug. 18, 2007) for new affirmations, planning, reaching goals.
Ø Monitor Financial Markets, Plan for 2008

Restricting travel means saving money and not spending it on vacations. Take saved money and apply it towards ridding yourself of debt after you planned out 2008. Planning out next year and saving money and ridding debt is all sound advice. If you stay home and spend money it helps the local economy and not some other community. Good advice. Do not socialize as much equals pending less money on alcohol/dinner out/cookouts etc etc. Again you are saving money. A good idea. Maintaining a lower profile often means less stress on yourself. Also this means you fly under the radar and maybe don't go out and buy fancy things. Saving money one again. Sitting back and waiting until Aug 18 until you make the decision instead of making it now? A good idea. The more time you have to make a decision should mean you think it out more and leave more time for things to develop. Look at the markets and see if you should pull your money or play with some things. A sound idea if you want to try and make more money potentially. Then again with the planning for 2008. A wonderful idea.

Basically what you are saying is save money, plan for the future and take your time in decision making. All of this is sound advice hidden in astrological nonsense. No wonder someone reading this, believing it and living it has a good turn of things. It is good advice.





Ok so I reread your post. This makes several times I have gone over it line for line. I still see nothing here but sound advice hidden inside your astrological reasons. I will admit that if your transits(transites? what is the plural?) are correct and you strip this report of the advice then you have valid points. I can not check you and your planet locations and what not. I have not learned that skill and have to trust that you are correct. This is science but I science I can not actually practice myself. Perhaps that makes me "ignorant" in the true definition of the word but I could say the same about you when speaking of things I know how to do and you do not. Also please do not get arrogant because I can not do one of your charts and you can. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't mean much and I would hate the arrogance I have witness in other posts to disrupt good conversation.

Again I do not see anything special here. Good advice hidden inside astrological prophecies loosely based on a true science, astronomy.

As for why I spend time commenting? Because work is hectic. It is the summer rush. I have an incompetent new employee who makes delayed and bad decisions. My car is in the shop. Thermostat went out. I post here to take my mind of the crap that is going on in my life and it distracts me so I don't listen to the stuff going on in my head.

Kevin A.

Whatever Kevin. Jeez. The only "disruption" I see here are your comments. If your "work" is so "hectic" then I suggest you slow down and get a grip. A tight one at that pal. For someone who thinks it is all "nonsense" ~ you do know that this is the Astrology forum, yes? You seem to spend a lot of time on this "nonsense" Kevin...

If you want to "check" my positions ~ then buy a scientific planetary ephemeris, and learn to read it; although that will require you to actually read it. You can find one online, and at your local library. I learned to read one a long time ago and can check my own positions very well.

Good advice is not hidden within astrological forecasts. They are plain as day since there are proper times to do things under the Sun, and times change, because of the transits. There is a time, and a season for all things. Learn what they are ~ that's what astrological transits are.

You might want to discover just what "time" is in the first place because without the motion of the planets pal ~ it would not exist ~ although I doubt that you'd know that considering your "grip" on science.

If you want to learn more ~ then learn ~ and keep your ignorance to yourself. Your knowledge of Astrology is non-existant, therefore you do not know what it is that you are talking about ~ even to call it "nonsense" as you do. The only "nonsense" shown here is your own lack of knowledge on that which you comment. You see Kevin, everytime you comment on matters outside your expertise, in the manner that you do, you expose your own ignorance. Don't want to be ignorant of transits? Then read, listen and learn. That is how it is done.

Theodore, How did you get into astrology concidering the fact that astrology is increasingly viewed as an occult science or superstition by natural scientists?

Hi Dragonwick. I was trained by an astronomer and tutors during my classical education as a child. My tutors were natural scientists themselves and practiced classical astrology ~ not the "pop-culture astrology" that some people think is the same thing when it is not.

One of the first things I learned was astronomy (stellar cartography) and meteorology (weather forecasting) ~ both natural branches of classical astrology that were invented by classical astrologers, including mathematics, and medicine, among the other branches of clssical astrology.

Usually, most of the people who treat astrology as a "superstition" are those who lack any knowledge about astrology or scientific history whatsoever, and think that the newspaper Sun-sign columns are all that "astrology" is ~ when all they do is reveal their own ignorance. See Kevin's views and comments above as a prime example of this. It is very easy to dismiss something when when doesn't want to do any serious reading. That's lazy, and those who do so I see as both lazy and ignorant. Period.

Thats really interesting! I like to read a bit on it myself! Anything with alot of history behind it catches my interest.

There are many different types of astrology as well as from many different contries!

. Natal astrology
. Katarchic astrology
. Horary astrology
. Mundane or world astrology

Have you delved into all of these or do you preffer a specific one?

Without judging astrology per se, for I would be lying if I told you I didn't log onto to astro.com once in a while, one thing I have noticed in my life is what you give power to manifests.
Bare in mind that this is coming from a Virgo with a scorpio moon
Jeez, did I just admit that in public.

Blessings

I also find it interesting that mercury will turn retrograde through june and july! My sign is cancer...

Dragon & Kev - Don't get him started. The guy has insecurity issues w/his view of astrology - he has shown no small emotional issues in trying to show how it's valid - but in doing that he proved only one thing - He has no small emotional issues and never proved it valid. He will just get rude - arrogant and start calling you names and put you down because we are 'idiots' when it comes to understanding astrology as "he does" - (talk also about no small ego).

It is best just to ignore him at this point - you'd have a better dialog talking to a brick wall.... trust me.

LOL. Small emotional issues? Like you know me or something? Look into a mirror pal. Don't project onto me Jjbreen. Most of your posts are negative, with little value, or anything positive to add. Your rudeness comes from not being able to respect others while projecting your own issues onto people whom you do not know ~ namely ~ me.

Sorry that your personal sensibilities are so easily rattled, but that's your problem pal. Not mine, or the problem of others. Just deal with it Jj. And learn to conduct proper dialog yourself, which you repeatedly fail to do, considering the amount of negativity you bring to the forum with your posts, and the manner with which you are so closed-minded as to falsely believe that everyone else is as well.

I've got news for you.

People are not.

In order for you to come to the table Jj bring something of value, some knowledge (which you lack concerning this topic... and others) and keep the personal comments out of it, which, when you, or others like you do so, shows just how typical you are when it comes to expressing nothing but your ignorance, and wasting thread space while commenting extensively on subjects you down repeatedly. Are you done now?

Tons of history is what classical astrology has Dragonwick. My preferred branch is mundane, theological, and natal astrology; however, I had to work up to those disciplines after two decades of study, and after mastering the levels of Natural Astrology, which are the most basic disciplines, those of astronomy, and astrometeorology. I also perform natal, and secondary progression work for clients.

The history of Astrology is fascinating and covers the entire history of humanity, across many nations, and cultures. Because of my classical education, I had to study history, astrophysics, geophysics, literature, the sciences, geography, etc., due to the many branches classical astrology covers over about 6,000 years of human history. The most basic study comes from observing nature here on Earth, and of course stellar cartography, or astronomy.

Plenty of people have a Virgo Sun with a Scorpio Moon Turtle. What will make your transits unique will be the place and date of your birth, and sometimes, the time as well. Each birth is a "time stamp" of sorts, and this natal time stamp you carry with all your life. Your transits are unique to yourself, and continue to move, via Secondary Progressions, as you age.

For instance, If you locate to another region, especially those where the time difference changes from that of where you were born, there will be transit changes there as well. The premise is that your time stamp alters when you physically move from one location to another, and so, transit changes will compensate as well.

As for what "you give power to" ~ that is not how I see it. By having knowledge of transits, it is you who has power, and that has always been the way it was meant to be. Many people have a false concept of Astrology in the first place, giving it power over them, and this can only happen without the knowledge of transits, times, and seasons. by having knowledge of transits, you are the one in charge, and you will be able to navigate time cycles using this knowledge to improve your life and the lives of others, for the good.

Those people who do not believe in transits are still affected by them ~ not matter if they want to be or not, since we all have to live under the cosmic laws. And these people usually have no knowledge of Astrology, or think that they "know" what Astrology is ~ which is a pop-culture mentality, a cartoon version of the real thing, and has no basis in reality whatsoever. These kinds of people have a hard time understanding just basic laws of the universe (and their own world) to begin with, and transits work most powerfully on them considering they are wholly ignorant of them, but don't seem to make the connection to transits when they look at their own watch or a clock on a wall.

However, by using basic knowledge, say, of the coming Mercury retrograde, it will bring a wider perspective to the news of the next month or so, and the situations one may experience, or see. This knowledge can allow a person to adapt to the transits over this time cycle, which can be of great use in one's daily life.

Peace,
Theodore

Theodore and Jjbreen, Please remember the terms and conditions of this forum:

Please refrain from the behaviour I have highlighted above. Theodore, you in particular have had more than enough warnings for your lack of civility and are skating on perilously thin ice.

Please. Re-read the posts here, and then tell me "in particular" Waspie, as your own messages to me (I've saved them) have certainly not followed the terms of behavior of the forum. Moderate according to the rules, and not personal bias.

That depends on your own particular transits Dragonwick. Your Sun-sign is in the constellation Cancer, however, you may have a Mercury position in Cancer, therefore, this coming Mercury retrograde may have some influence, depending on the degree it is located.

For instance, there are people out there with natal or progressed Mercury positions in Cancer... The global transit of Mercury will affect them, according to the positions of other bodies, the aspects they make, etc., during the next month or so. Much depends on the aspects made to and from Mercury in their own transits.

I have to agree with Waspie on this one Theodore; the comments that were brought to your attention are rude and offensive, not to mention uncalled for. Please remain civil in your discussions. Thank you.

I have no problem being civil, however, you have people on the forum (we know who they are, and so do they) who make a constant habit of flame-baiting on several forum topics, and threads, who have appeared here on this topic forum as well. I can handle myself since I am a grown-up; however, being civil does not mean being put upon. I will continue to be civil in my discussions as long as those who are not either take it elsewhere, or don't comment at all. Thanks.

Ummm... It's all in the delivery my boy.
I know there are LOTS of people with the transit Scorpio moon in Virgo, I was attempting to be humerous...which obviously you don't do.
If you will notice, I didn't "ask" you what it meant, because i already new that already.
Just a point, which you will take the wrong way, but if you are attempting to educate others, perhaps you need to improve your bedside manner.
I am interested in this, but ain't interested in being lectured to or talked down to, which is how you are coming across.
Peace.

The flamebaiting goes both ways and the condescending attitude and snarky replies to people often initiate such situations or at least escalate them. There will always be trolls, and that can be dealth with by the administration if we know about it, but talking to people as if they are children (or worse) even when they respond to your posts in earnest makes you your own worst enemy and a horrible representative for the science and skills you are speaking about. I do not know if you can have the perspective to see it, but that really is how you come across and I would hope that you could see that. You have a lot to offer but if someone is acting like a jerk please either report them or ignore them and work with the folks that are serious to further your point. The simple fact is the the constant condescending attitude will not be tolerated because it just simply turns into flame wars and makes what would be great threads into war zones that end up going nowhere or just getting closed.


For everyone, please stick to the topic at hand, and if you do not have anything constructive to add please don't respond at all. Thank you.

Ok - Theo -
you feel it's "fine" to send PM's to me - but BLOCK any answers back to you. I have no choice but to answer your PM here:

Here is what you sent me:


Please do NOT play your PM's games w/me. I find your little 'game' - well just that, a game. At least be man enough to accept answers back to you if you are goingto send PM's.

Moderators, yes I have it saved. -
I would have gladly sent the answer to him on a PM: but was met w/this screen when I tried:
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This is exactly what i am trying to avoid; there is no reason to continue arguing, please get back on topic.

I don't keep up with astrology, but I remember the Mercury Retrograde warnings.

I'm July 7, Wife is July 11 (both 1975) so I guess we both need to take it slower than usual... double knot those shoe laces

Didn't someone predict something bad this July?

Didn't know that you were "joking" Turtle, and yes, it is all in the delivery. Perhaps you ought to work on yours, as your "humor" (spelled correctly by the way) might be a bit, well, not there. Maybe if you spelled better, your "jokes" will better understood. As for my "bedside manner" ~ are you in need of a doctor or something?

I don't know who predicted what for July Celumnaz; however, the coming Mercury retrograde in tropical Cancer will slow things down over the rest of June and for most of July.

Theodore, you seem to be either unwilling or unable to follow the polite advice of the moderators on this board. The post I have quoted suggests that you have either not read or have ignored Fluffybunny's post. I will repeat the pertinent parts.



I would also remind you that by becoming a member of this site you have agreed to abide by its terms and conditions which includes the following:

There will be no further polite requests.

Incidentally Theodore, on the subject of spelling, I have corrected the title of this thread as you missed out the 3rd "r" in retrograde.

Discover the difference between bad spelling and typos. They are not the same Waspie.

One more time Waspie, rarely do I see you actually moderating trolls or taking care of those who make personal attacks on others. I also suggest you read my responses, and not see in them what you want to see (considering your past biases as sent to me via PM and on threads). I responded to Fluffybunny, perhaps you missed that. I have no problem being civil and am to those who are civil to me. I suggest you might want to actually find objectivity and balance in your own responses ~ especially to me ~ rather than constantly posting as to cause trouble that is not there to begin with. I've abided by the terms and conditions since joining. If you want to be polite, then be so, as being polite means getting the same in return. I can read Waspie, there's no need for you to constantly repeat yourself. I am a grown up. Heard you the first time, the second time, and now the third time. Thanks.

Thanks Fluffybunny. I agree.

Let me try and get this topic on track and continue with things here.

Theodore I understand that you can calculate the positions of planets and their relations to each other. I believe you can do this with decent enough accuracy. Like I said before I can not do these calculations. It is something I have not taken the time to learn. I can understand though that as things move around their relations to each other change. Seems like some very dynamic things are going on out there. Again I believe that you can calculate these positions and can do so accurately. This is the astronomical part of what you do. It is sound science and mathematics. No problems there but when astrologers add in the prediction, prophecy and forecasting parts to this, that is where my questions and issues arise.

Just look at the predictions for the coming months that you posted I can not help but see very vague forecasts. You have effectively covered any little mishap or bump in the road that happens at any point in a persons life. You have covered home life, work and play(socializing or whatnot). To me this is not accurate at all. You have covered every moment of the persons day to day life. For instance if your prediction would state only problems at work and only problems with people then that is getting more accurate. Instead you have listed problems with work, commuting to work, equipment at work, people at work, shipments, productions issues etc. There is not one facet of work that you have not covered. Another example is your post about weather predictions you put up recently. You predicted some sort of weather happening going on for approximately half the days of the time frame you outlined. Again I do not see the accuracy here. I see vague predications meant to apply to anyone and appeal to those that believe your forecasts with out applying logical rational thought.

What I did by posting my thoughts in this thread was to show that anyone can make predictions that will apply to anyone and make sense when looked at rationally. If I predict more food related illnesses because of warmer weather and the resulting issues that is not prophecy or forecasting. It is using logical thought to look at possibilities and probabilities. You state it is based on the locations,goings on of planets and their tiny tiny tiny no way actual science can measure it gravitational influence on us. I base it on rational thought. We are both "predicting" the same thing but I have a firmer base to stand on if you will. I will try and not offend here but anyone who has studied people who make such predictions they will tell you that "predictions" made through rational thought and vague appeal to the masses prophecy are the bread and butter of all the fraudulent psychics and scam artists out there. From what I have read before you seem to look down upon your average everyday horoscopes found in newspapers and other tabloids. Though if you compare such newspaper horoscope predictions to your own one can not help but see a resemblance in their "accuracy".

Again I will say that I can not reproduce your planet location calculations but I can understand the science and mathematics behind them. I understand the science, the astronomy, that seems to be the basis of what you do. I can not reproduce such calculation given my knowledge but I can understand the science and appreciate that you took the time to learn such a skill. I will say that my lack of knowledge about such calculations does not make me ignorant to all forms of science and math. I may not have the exact knowledge to do the astronomical calculations you do but you may not be able to do the engineering calculations that I do. See what I am saying? Im sure if I took the time to learn your calculations and you mine we would both have a deeper respect for each others knowledge in our chosen fields.

As much as I understand the science and mathematics behind it all I fail to understand how vague predictions that apply to most everyone come into play with what you are calling a science. Science is, if anything, an exact and precise thing. The predictions I have seen of yours and of others do not fall into this realm of exact and precise. I see the exact opposite in fact. I do not think I am the only one seeing this either. I also fail to understand how such forces acting over such vast distances elude measurement but somehow influence everything in our world. Such a small, almost if not totally non-existant, force have any effect on anything at all. I do not see how any one with an understanding of the laws of physics think for a second that these forces do anything at all.

I understand that you believe in astrology. It is who you are and what you do. It is a major part of your life. You dedicated yourself to learning such things and evidently have developed a nice sized knowledge base. You have faith in astrology and as such you believe it through and through. This I understand. What I do not understand is vague predictions, somewhat rational thought disguised as predictions and the like being called a science. Using a valid science(astronomy) as a basis for these predictions but in truth that is as far as it goes. A basis in science but the actual results in the end are solidly in a complete other realm long devoid of any science. Vague prophecy using some scientific principles in an attempt to validate itself. This is what I see.

Kevin A.

Interesting and all but here's what I really want to know:

What about celestial bodies beyond our solar system (distance doesn't matter , right?), not even to mention all those in our galaxy or the hundreds of billions of other galaxies in the universe?

Exactly (specifically) what mechanism/force is being exerted by celestial bodies that serves to influence the destiny of human beings here on Earth? Exactly what is the "it" we're talking about? Is "it" electromagnetism, gravity, the strong or weak force...exactly what?

Until at least these two basic questions can be answered then there are many who will not take astrology seriously.

I really hope a few other members stumble across this post.

*Trip*
Yeah, I did. Business as usual. I got caught up in a similar thread a while back. I still maintain that the difficulty often found is in the fact that this is an unexplained mystery website, not a "This is Fact, this is Science, do not question me" website.

I read Theo's weather prediction thread because I was interested. He called himself a climatologist I believe it was. It drew some criticism and I mentioned it was a matter of definition, seeing as how the current definition of a climatologist is NOT what Theo does. I mentioned that, and got my ass handed to me!

I was told I was ignorant, blah blah blah, all because I'm a "non-believer". My favorite part was where he said I didn't know him, yadayada...the pisser is, he doesn't know ME either, yet he was willing to tell me how ignorant I was.

My mother has been doing Astrology for over 40 years, and makes a good living doing it, and has actually taken science and sociology courses that pertain to astrology. She has a Masters in Social Work now, and counsels people using all of her experience and skills.

However, even she realizes that astrology has it's limitations. Theo refuses to address that issue and is not open to any criticism or even questions about the usefulness or validity of "Classical Astrology."

I still get my chart every year. It's interesting. But not ALWAYS what I would call accurate. Sometime vague, sometimes pretty precise. I personally am not sold. it is, as I said before, a MYSTERY.

*braces for the flames*

That may be your choice, or that of others, but there are many tens of millions who do take it seriously. When you deal with Time itself, you are basically dealing with it in your own time arena, that is, the one that matters, here on Earth. As for magnetism, this is the key force, as determined by mathematical aspects to and from the Earth within our own system, this determines the Time, which, without the motions of the planets, would not exist.

Actually - Time would exist - we would simply have created a different measure of 'time' that is all.

Really? And just how would "we" do that?

Einstein demonstrated that time is relative, not an absolute. How this applies to the manner in which astrology supposedly works isn't clear (to me anyway).

Time may be relative, however, it would not exist without the motion of the planets.

According to Plato, in The Timaeus ~

"[The Demiurge] brought into being the Sun, the Moon, and five other stars, for the begetting of time. These are called 'wanderers' [planêta], and they stand guard over the numbers of time. And so people are all but ignorant of the fact that time really is the wanderings of these bodies."

"Plato clearly says that time is the wanderings of these bodies - their movement - and not a kind of number that measures such movement. Abstracting time from motion was an innovation of Aristotle's. For Plato, time just is celestial motion."

Ok, so time (for astrologers anyway) is celestial motion. How does this allow astrologers to foresee the future? Exactly what are you measuring that determines people's fates? If it's simply the movement of celestial bodies then how does this movement affect the future of people on Earth? Also, if astrologers are all measuring the same thing...then why aren't all of their predictions internally consistent? Why aren't all astrologers giving the exact same predictions?

Is this implying that time and the motion of celestial bodies are somehow dependent on one another? I don't think that makes sense literally. That's like saying the movement of a clocks hand determines or creates time, rather than measures it. Or am I misinterpreting this?

I can't speak for "all astrologers" ~ frankly, many of them are not really true astrologers to begin with and lack the disciplines of science to practice as one. The same "exact" predictions? On what? You seem to have this idea that astrology is some kind of game. It is not a game mister. As for "time" ~ you read Plato correctly, without the motions of the planets, and that includes the Earth, time would not exist. Period.

On people's fates ~ fate is decided by choice, for the most part. However, every single person on this planet has a time stamp, which is the arrival of themselves on this Earth by birth into a time cycle, or an era. You have one, I have one, we all have them. There are patterns and cycles within time that repeat themselves, but not exactly, however, astrologers who are able to "read" transits are able to use the data of past centuries to conduct potentials of forecasting methods on directions of a person's life, but not their fates, per se. Fate, is determined by character, by the choices a person makes, or, by the environment they exist in, along with their own personal natal, and progressed transits.

Yes. Don't you know that time here is measured by the motion of the Earth? The Earth is a celestial body, is it not?

Yes Theo, I do know that...
Maybe I'm reading too much into it. I don't think that time is dependant on planets or other celestial bodies. I know we use celestial bodies to mark it, but I don't think time would stand still if a celestial body were to stop moving.

Well, if the Earth stopped moving, that is exactly what would happen. Time would stand still, in effect, it would be "fixed." This is a cosmic principle that relates to the other motions of the celestial bodies, including the Sun, which is always in motion.

If there is an affect made by the motion of the planets and stars and it's real, it can be measured. Perhaps there's is only a statistical effect, but that can be measured using statisticial analysis, and predictions like that can be tested for their accuracy. This is what I'm talking about when I say "exact predictions".





No, I certainly don't think it's a game. And BTW, I'm also not a "mister".




So says Plato, but we've progressed a bit since then. According to Einstein it's space time.



What I want to know is exactly how the movement of celestial bodies at the time of my birth could affect my (or anyone elses) personality traits. I mean, who decided which traits correspond to which "time stamp" in the first place? And, how did they make this determination?

Well, Plato still has plenty of say, even in our times. As a classical astrologer, Plato was well-versed in the nature of the universe, and surmised that time would not exist without the motions of the planets. This remains true even today.

The astrological methods used to forecast can also be found in the works of the classical astrologer, Johannes Kepler. According to writer David Cochrane, in his text "ASTROLOGY, SCIENCE & CAUSALITY" ~

"Kepler's discovery of planetary motion published in the year 1609 is widely regarded among historians of science as the marker of the transition to modern science. Kepler discovered that the path of planets is a geometric shape, an ellipse, and a simple mathematical formula can describe with very good precision the planetary positions. Kepler's relentless battle to determine this formula and his intuitive sense that planetary motions could be understood mathematically also marks the attitude that is often needed in scientific and mathematical endeavors: persistence and a belief that a discovery is possible.

Kepler's laws of planetary motion are not a statement of causality; they are a statement of the application of mathematics to the physical world. Kepler's laws of planetary motion state that physical reality conform to mathematical principles. A reason why the planets should move according to these laws is not provided. Kepler's breakthrough and this monumental breakthrough to modern science is founded principally on the application of abstract mathematical models to physical reality."

Now, according to the Hermetic System of Astrology, events, and their conditions are attracted into human lives and those of other living creatures because of the electro-magnetic vibrations and activities of thought-cells within the astral forms of our bodies. All astral forms of living things are composed of these cells that we call "stellar cells" and that are built by the consciousness that accompany experiences. These stellar cells exist in all our bodies. We are literally made up of the stuff of stars.

These stellar cells are organized into dynamic structures which are mapped by the celestial time one is born into, and have an intelligence of their own. They attract into a person's life the conditions and events that correspond to their own time stamp, or birth transits.

Consider Einstein's special theory of relativity that explains the actions and behaviors of high-velocity particles, and the inter-relationship between velocity and what we call time. It is widely believed that things like "absolute time" does not exist in our physical realm, but that when velocity speeds up, time as we know it, slows down, until the velocity of light time stands still. In the same manner, as time speeds up, velocity slows down, until what we call the time speed that we are used to tends to move at the velocity that we can observe, like the movement of physical objects. You can see this phenomena sitting on a non-moving train and observing another train moving beside you. Although you are sitting still, there appears to be apparent motion.

Science has already proven that the nerve currents of living things are electrical in nature, and that human beings have an electric magnetic form. These waves, when radiated, move out with the velocity of light; however, electric currents that travel over wires, for instance, or over nerves, move slower.

Without becoming too technical, astrologically, it will be apparent that if you notice when a clock slows down relative to the velocity it takes, as your consciousness reaches higher and higher velocities, you will be able to have more experiences within the space, of say, about four minutes of the slowed down time. So, at certain velocities, that is, within the limit of what we can expect to occur within a person's electromagnetic form, the ratio of the number of experiences is four (4) minutes of the slower time, to the number of experiences in the faster motion of external life, is 365 1/4 to 1.

This ratio of astrological velocities between electromagnetic regions to that of a person's body in the physical world is 365 1/4 to 1 with occurences that take place in about less than four minutes of the slow major p