More help than I gave you and you plain ignored is impossible. Now, I'm sorry if you like to live phantasy dreams...

i didnt notice any help.
where s your help,you just criticise me negative,
And i didnt receive any positive comment from anyone here.
Or any serious explenation,allthough im looking for one at this forum.
You are talking about Pascal,but there s no relationship.Different painting styles.Pascal maybe is symbolic style,But this one isnt symbolic.

Don't worry alexpap, I believe you.

The picture is amazingly high tech isn't it?

First I don't think the grey/black item hanging by it's side is a gun or rifle but is probably a laser gun instead?

Maybe the item worn on the head is a power supply and the item held in his hand is a battery of some kind?

Also the item coming THROUGH the helmet, do you think that could be a mind controlling device which is why the thing/creature kneeling down in front of him?

Tell me your thoughts on this!

My opinion is that THEY did it,i mean the creatures at the photo.And maybe they printed it at the wall using somekind of future printer,

It makes sense to me

Don't worry alexpap, I believe you.

The picture is amazingly high tech isn't it?

First I don't think the grey/black item hanging by it's side is a gun or rifle but is probably a laser gun instead?

Maybe the item worn on the head is a power supply and the item held in his hand is a battery of some kind?

Also the item coming THROUGH the helmet, do you think that could be a mind controlling device which is why the thing/creature kneeling down in front of him?

Tell me your thoughts on this!

oh thanx man.
i just woke up.....and im very happy to read your message,of course its an amazing high tech pic that we cant undestand,its technology is far away from ours
So about his helmet,i believe its his pc,and it is sucking energy from the power supply machine at the right hand
About the gun ofcourse it can be a laser gun,the details are clear over there.
Have you notice the accelerator at his skate?i ve highlighted it red.His flying skate looks so real that maybe its real and we can use it
He is wearing some green metal armor at his arms,and a thin mask over his face,his ear is meachanic.
What do you think about his nose?isnt it strange?Maybe its part of his mask.
About the item on his left hand...it s difficult to talk about that,but i think that he s looking at it with surprise,with admiration
The kneeling creature...i think its female with strange bears face,she s not clear ,most of her pieces are broken,but she s kneeling over a flying machine for sure :)But she uses a different machine type than the male s one
what can be the item that the male creature offers to her????
Maybe he proposes her.Is there a bride wearing white dress over the strange item? Or is it a whirlpool galaxy?Its a mystery for me
But the greatest mystery is about the artist who made that scene
What s your opinion about him?Can he be a human?Is it possible for a human thousand years before to represent a scene in such details?
Thanx for your interesting man

This is the single mos bizarre thread I have ever read.
I sincerley hope this is a joke, other wise I may fear for my sanity.

This is the single mos bizarre thread I have ever read.
I sincerley hope this is a joke, other wise I may fear for my sanity.

What do you mean he doesn't have a nose. What do you think the thing that sticks out from the front of his face between his mouth and his eyes is?. It even has a well defined nostril. Admittedly there is damage on part of the face but the lower part of the nose is as clear as day. Just in case you still can't see it I've highlighted it in red.



Please look more carefully at it!

it s the most fantastic ,amazing photo ever taken
and its not a joke

i insist,that creature printed that photo on this wall
its crazy but there leading all the elements

Im sure I have seen this before if its the same then it depicts a mayan warrior. in his right hand is a weapon and in his left is a human heart.

How on earth do you make out the figure kneeling is female? I have looked at it now for 5 minutes and just see legs...

As for all the other things you see it is just speculation and interpretation. You are describing what you 'think' they are, that does not mean that are those things...

Sorry but until I see a crystal clear image of a space astronaut I will continue to accept the fact that this is just an interesting old carving...

But carry on because you never know you just might be the one to discover a decent carving or concrete proof of what you think it is showing...

Star

I suppose that its a female creature because of the thin and fine legs.Of course i maybe wrong
What about her face?Doesn t it look like a bears face?She must wear a kind of helmet too.
i maybe wrong again.
But the male creature isn t a human beeing,right?i m sure about that.
Many important pieces of him are missing.Unfortunately someone must has stolen them.

Do you agree that its possible the male creature printed it?I mean...as he was looking his photos at his... ipod ,he decided to print one over that wall,using a future laser printer ofcourse
Its more possible than a humans old carving.I dont think that an ancient human could remember so many details of them

It is a well known depiction of Pacal II of Palaenqe
what you can't read english now ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakal_the_Great

look a bit familiar does he ?

now if you want to continue pretending that hes some sort of extra terrestrial Alien then this thread is in the wrong forum

so?whats your point?
there s no realtionship with my photo

I don't really feel like going back through this thread to see if mention where you found the picture you posted...so perhaps you could tell me where again?

Do you remember anything about the website where you found it at?

you are very funny man,they are different styles
and my photo didnt found at the place you are talking about
my photo isn t just a represention of Pacal s life
its something different
i m sorry that you cant see longer than your nose,its not my fault man
dont stuck at old archologists analysies
they didnt use computers 100 years before
please dont bother me anymore
i have more serious things than your stuck ideas

The principal personage stands in an upright position and in profile, exhibiting an extraordinary facial angle of about forty-five degrees...Over the shoulders is a short covering decorated with studs, and a breastplate; part of the ornament of the girdle is broken; the tunic is probably a leopard's skin; and the whole dress no doubt exhibits the costume of this unknown people. He holds in his hand a staff or sceptre, and opposite his hands are the marks of three hieroglyphics, which have decayed or been broken off.
At his feet are two naked figures seated cross-legged, and apparently suppliants. A fertile imagination might find many explanations for these strange figures, but no satisfactory interpretations presents itself to my mind. The hieroglyphics doubtless tell its history. The stucco is of admirable consistency, and hard as stone. It was painted, and in different places about it we discovered the remains of red, blue, yellow, black, and white.
The piers which are still standing contained other figures of the same general character, but which, unfortunately, are more mutilated, and from the declivity of the terrace it was difficult to set up the camera lucida in such a position as to draw them. The piers which are fallen were no doubt enriched with the same ornaments. Each one had some specific meaning, and the whole probably presented some allegory or history; and when entire and painted, the effect in ascending the terrace must have been imposing and beautiful. "

we are now reaching new heights of your ignorance arent we Alex
please read
http://mayaruins.com/palenque/a1_275.html

heres your picture

http://www.dallas.net/~lalo/maspal5.html
totally unedited by your photoshop
and guess what
Its Pacal
again

on a scale of one to one hundred where 1 is "not very" and 100 is "extremely ignorant" what do you think you are rating right now

i really own you

Monkeys bite me! You was serious and now you saw apollyons post and are giving excuses!

And, for all other guys, I suggest not to bother with alex, you will soon get bothered as hell of his ignorance, just read his last post.
Apollyon proved that it is one of the Pacals depictions in Palenque but he insists its an astronaut... Do you still think you can argue with such madness?

all your base are belong to us

Maybe we can't see everything in great detail as the ink they used got smudged before it could dry?

i did never say that the guy that you call Pacal is an astronaut,i just say that he was Zeus himself.
And the rest creatures at the west side of the Palace (there are 3 more central creatures at the 3 printings)?????
Noone looks like the guy that you call Pacal.
You can check their faces or their elctronic equipment.

Feanor, this has SO much sarcasm in it that there was no way on Earth I could have been serious! LOL