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user posted image rA Berkeley watchdog organization that tracks military spending said it uncovered a strange U.S. military proposal to create a hormone bomb that could purportedly turn enemy soldiers into homosexuals and make them more interested in sex than fighting. Pentagon officials on Friday confirmed to CBS 5 that military leaders had considered, and then subsquently rejected, building the so-called "Gay Bomb."Edward Hammond, of Berkeley's Sunshine Project, had used the Freedom of Information Act to obtain a copy of the proposal from the Air Force's Wright Laboratory in Dayton, Ohio.As part of a military effort to develop non-lethal weapons, the proposal suggested, "One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior."The documents show the Air Force lab asked for $7.5 million to develop such a chemical weapon."The Ohio Air Force lab proposed that a bomb be developed that contained a chemical that would cause enemy soldiers to become gay, and to have their units break down because all their soldiers became irresistably attractive to one another," Hammond said after reviewing the documents.

"The notion was that a chemical that would probably be pleasant in the human body in low quantities could be identified, and by virtue of either breathing or having their skin exposed to this chemical, the notion was that soliders would become gay," explained Hammond. The Pentagon told CBS 5 that the proposal was made by the Air Force in 1994."The Department of Defense is committed to identifying, researching and developing non-lethal weapons that will support our men and women in uniform," said a DOD spokesperson, who indicated that the "gay bomb" idea was quickly dismissed.

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__Kratos__
lmao... This was covered by the BBC back in 2005 in fact I saw it on their site just the other day as the most e-mailed news stories. As much as I love advancements I really doubt I would like to see this one take place. Just a cruel psychololical warfare and just... Ack! Quite amusing though... And it would be really effective in combat just well you know... Just nasty. laugh.gif Once used against another army that army would look quickly to use and make it against us and that's something you've got to consider.
pazforeva
I remember seeing this on the BBC website a couple of years ago aswell. There were a few other ideas that included a bomb that would cause halitosis and another that would attract "swarms of enraged wasps or angry rats towards enemy troops".

BBC article here
Marvy
OMG..you gotta be kiddin me huh.gif people will use any mean necessary to win the war but seriously...??!
Cold.
LOL. Sorry, but that's all I can really say about this bomb.
Affliction
*is in awe of the genius behind the premise*

My friend had a pretty good idea, A THC bomb, so everyone would be too busy greening out to do anything.
Wolfen69
I do not know about the gay part but I thought a drug was all readymade to make people want to make love not war. Called LSD and Pot. All we would have to do is drop a few bricks of weed right in middle of the other camp and bingo they will be dropping their guns and guns and grabbing lava lamps. We even could tell them “Free snacks if you give up!”

I think all war is like the special Olympic. It does not matter who wins or loses there both retarded. Rather than work on weapons of war they should be thinking on how in the heck we are going to get off this rock we call earth when this place goes to hell. From asteroids, volcanoes, global warming and any of the 1,000s of other stuff that could wipe man off the face of this earth not to say anything about what our own kind is doing to each other we need to find a way to expand before it is too late instead of fighting for oil, land are “shutter” in the name of god.
HowdyDoo
QUOTE(Wolfen69 @ Jun 15 2007, 01:41 PM) [snapback]1726041[/snapback]
I think all war is like the special Olympic. It does not matter who wins or loses there both retarded.


Funny...couldn't help laughing...but probably not PC and could be offensive to some.
truethat
Right because when people are gay they just drop everything they are doing and just hump each other all day........
zukie&jim
i remember this idea of a "PAT" bomb . remember pat from the SNL tv show ?

it was under bill clintons " non-lethal " weapons development development for a "green-war" . it was a strategic device supposed to break a nations will to make war .

the truth is it was most like one of those "obvious dead end projects" where insiders fill their pockets with taxpayer $$$

sort of like the regan era david ADA tank --ended up costing $1.6++ billion 1980s dollars .

billions was spent on non-lethal devices--when we should have been developing more lethal small arms-- bring back the 30 cal !!! LOL
IronGhost
Maybe they really did develop it and tested it secretly by dropping it in San Francisco.
STIX
what a waste of money... they certainly like wasting money down there.
Celumnaz
if it works, and I'm guessing it might (military seems pretty serious)... is there a way to reverse it or is it temporary or...?
Sadonis
I dont think they were planning on making people gay only promicuous and particularly aroused at the time. Sex makes EVERYONE do crazy things.

I know there are drugs and gases that can make you aroused but not able to overwhelm someone so much that they just jump on whomever is next to them.


That might be offensive to any Muslim warriors that we might use it against ohmy.gif






And I believe using a weapon like this would open the door to a larger scale of chemical warfare. I'd rather we not even have though about it, but what's done is done. Using a THC bomb is also constituted as chemical warfare and can be dangerous. People walking out of windows because they're involuntarily hallucinating. Besides..all the opposing army has to do is take hostages or civilians and have them at each unit. We aren't allowed to attack civilians.
Obsin
Hey, what's wrong with nonlethal was to deal with conflict? ANything is better than having to shoot, blow up, or gas/subject a person to lethal chemical warfare. Something that gets soldiers incredibly aroused or high is worth looking into. They'd be so hot and out of it that we can just swoop in and take care of the situation. This way there will be no having to counsel troops suffering PTSD because they've killed someone and experienced the carnage that goes along with that.
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:
Wow, the stupid award medal goes to the military for that one. A gay bomb. When you think you heard just about everything and something like this comes out! (No puns intended.) rolleyes.gif
Bosanchero
For some weird reason i keep thinking that a GAY proposed this hahahah

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crtDzyn
QUOTE(Affliction @ Jun 15 2007, 07:24 AM) [snapback]1725899[/snapback]
*is in awe of the genius behind the premise*

My friend had a pretty good idea, A THC bomb, so everyone would be too busy greening out to do anything.

It would work on me... innocent.gif

QUOTE(truethat @ Jun 15 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]1726068[/snapback]
Right because when people are gay they just drop everything they are doing and just hump each other all day........

lmao! I think the idea is including some mdma-type of chemical to make them all... umm, warm and fuzzy inside. wink2.gif

QUOTE(IronGhost @ Jun 15 2007, 11:04 AM) [snapback]1726195[/snapback]
Maybe they really did develop it and tested it secretly by dropping it in San Francisco.

laugh.gif rofl.gif


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Irish
I like Don Adams version better rofl.gif
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rosenrot
Wow, gay bomb, and just when you think you've heard of everything. You know what this sounds like to me.. one of those games that come out of Japan. Ya know. Kinda like Angel's Feather, Apocripha0, Togainu no Chi, Silver Chaos, you get the picture.
brothers
The story and the idea is a whole lot of bull. If they could build such a bomb then that would mean that they could make all the so called gay men into hetrosexuals. I wonder if they could make a bomb what would make us all smarter. That would be better. But don't count on it.
TeraLink
QUOTE(:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: @ Jun 15 2007, 12:49 PM) [snapback]1726366[/snapback]
Wow, the stupid award medal goes to the military for that one. A gay bomb. When you think you heard just about everything and something like this comes out! (No puns intended.) rolleyes.gif

Huh... What else does the pentagon have up its sleeve?

I would've intended that pun. Hahaha.


QUOTE(brothers @ Jun 15 2007, 06:07 PM) [snapback]1726854[/snapback]
The story and the idea is a whole lot of bull. If they could build such a bomb then that would mean that they could make all the so called gay men into hetrosexuals. I wonder if they could make a bomb what would make us all smarter. That would be better. But don't count on it.

I second this.

TeraLink Was Here!
Yawtza
LMAO! Some of these comments are priceless. Ya... I gotta agree that the "gay bomb" is a big waste. Here you have an intelligent group of professonal scientists that are suppose to find ways to engineer, enhance, create, etc..., etc... to improve weapons for military warfare... but you come up with one of the most non-intimidating weapons called the "gay bomb" in which the only good that will come out of this is breaking the guiness world record of gay orgies and getting soldiers off. I'm sure some soldiers would dare you throw some their way.
Gatofeo
A few things to put this back into perspective:

1. The bomb was proposed. The $7.2 million requested to develop it was denied. Thus, no money was spent on it. The military recognized the ridiculousness of the proposal.
In the 80s and 90s "Think Tanks" were very popular. Groups of eggheads got together, came up with seemingly incredible ideas, then researched their feasibility. Often they were not, but some of the components of the overall plan were discovered and were useful.
For example, "Wouldn't it be cool to have a bullet with an on-board computer that sought out a target it was programmed for?" The technology to make such a bullet may not exist, but it might lead to the creation of smaller computer components that could be used in aircraft, where weight is a factor.

2. This was proposed and denied 13 years ago, in 1994. I recall hearing of it a few years ago. Why is this suddenly making the rounds again? It's anti-military propaganda promulgated by Berkeley.

3. Berkeley is hardly a bastion of objecivity. If you agree with that community's largely leftist views, you're okay. Disagree and suddenly you're a paranoid right-winger, ignorant or delusional. Only its opinion is valid. I know. I've had to deal with Berkeleyites in a military environment. Many of them would totally dissolve any form of military. Historically, that always leads to chaos, if not invasion. They do not live in the real world.

4. This Berkeley group is certainly entitled to its opinion. But to dredge up an old news report and present it as recent? Hardly an ethical thing to do.
What a hue and cry would erupt if suddenly the media reported that many Berkeleyites spit on, and assaulted, soldiers coming home from Vietnam. They'd do it again today too, to soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, if they knew they could get away with it without public derision.

5. This "gay bomb" was very likely released by the military as "disinformation."
It causes your enemy to ponder whether you can do it, and to spend money to counter it. Defense and war are not only waged militarily, but economically. If you can divert a potential enemy's funding away from "bombs and bullets" to defenses against something he suspects you may use someday, you weaken his ability to wage conventional warfare. It's an ancient strategy and quite effective if the enemy thinks you're up to something. In modern parlance it's called, "faking out."
Miss Anita Cigarette.
i'm guessing this "gay bomb" implied all gay people are sexual deviants?
it wouldn't have worked on me, that's for sure. xo
nonsceptic
Possible scenario: Mass rape on US troops by extremly horny Al Queda terrorists who find blondies and latinos more attractive than their own bearded and filthy cosoldiers...
Blueguardian
*cough*

so after they turn the enemy gay, do they kill them ? and really it would destroy the other army once and for all, everyone would be kicked out, they cant have relationships with each other.
chiksta
QUOTE(Obsin @ Jun 16 2007, 03:15 AM) [snapback]1726360[/snapback]
Hey, what's wrong with nonlethal was to deal with conflict? ANything is better than having to shoot, blow up, or gas/subject a person to lethal chemical warfare. Something that gets soldiers incredibly aroused or high is worth looking into. They'd be so hot and out of it that we can just swoop in and take care of the situation. This way there will be no having to counsel troops suffering PTSD because they've killed someone and experienced the carnage that goes along with that.


yeah but this is practically making someone do somethign against their will and should be considered cheating...! and besides, what do you think the american army would do while the enemy is off doing whatever anyway? walk away? more likely take advantage of the situation and kill them anyway, so therefore killing and counselling would take place anyway

i think it's a stupid idea// just because someone is gay doesn't mean they are going to start having sex with anyone and everyone.
Scorpius
ROFL, I can imagine the outcome of it already. It'd be anything but less than hilarious.

QUOTE(chiksta @ Jun 16 2007, 01:53 AM) [snapback]1727573[/snapback]
i think it's a stupid idea// just because someone is gay doesn't mean they are going to start having sex with anyone and everyone.


Actually there's already pills that make you want to have sex, ie. ***** (for men) [hmm seems the drug is censored /sigh and it shouldn't rolleyes.gif ]. So it isn't really that impossible to design a bomb that spreads this type of pill into a gaseous substance, depending on the properties of the chemicals itself. However, I don't think there are any hormones to make you a homosexual if you are already heterosexual.
Obsin
QUOTE(chiksta @ Jun 16 2007, 04:53 AM) [snapback]1727573[/snapback]
yeah but this is practically making someone do somethign against their will and should be considered cheating...! and besides, what do you think the american army would do while the enemy is off doing whatever anyway? walk away? more likely take advantage of the situation and kill them anyway, so therefore killing and counselling would take place anyway

i think it's a stupid idea// just because someone is gay doesn't mean they are going to start having sex with anyone and everyone.



Soooo forcing someone to do something against their will (But no one is really forcing them. They made the decision to fight and thus whatever happens to them is part of the cost of deciding to fight. Also, this bomb is just a strong chemical. If they are strong of mind they may be able to resist the effects. They are not forced anymore than they are forced dead because they got shot by a bullet) vs killing them is the worse of two evils? As if you could "cheat" when it comes to conflict. There are no chilvary codes.

Sigh ... "walk" away or "kill anyway". Troops do not "always" kill their enemies. They take hostages, not massacre everyone despite there not being able to fight you. Massacres happen, but not all the time. Do you really think soldiers would be so cruel as to kill someone that is so unfit to fight that they are as nonhostile as a helpless neonate? If they did then some would call it genocide and mass murder. No, more likely than not these soldiers will be captured and processed into Soylent Green.

Using this method will reduce, not erase, the psychological damage. I framed my thoughts in such a way as to point out that ideally there would be no need to "counsel for killing people" if this method makes it so that there is no need to kill. Of course people will still be killed and thus there will still be soldiers who will need the help. People will still need to be counselled anyhow for things not related to "killing". Men might have PTSD from the chemicals used and the devestation of seeing humans reduced to such a "base level". I dunno. *shrugs*

Besides, the moniker "gay bomb" is just a jesting name. The bomb makes the guys really horny. Some homophobe who is really "a gay guy in the closet" made the assumption that if a bunch of male troops are exposed to this bomb, they'd be so horny they'd do each other, and thus the name (or nickname). In reality they'd just "****" or resort to their animals (a few with each other though) or women in the premise - thus the only downside. Rape incidents would skyrocket!

In conclusion, a stupid name does not alway imply a stupid idea. ~Master Splinter of the Ninja Turtles (Actually that just came to me now but I am sure there is some Eastern proverb dealing with this.)
Daluni
After releasing such a bomb, all you need is a gaydar to track the enemy...

Sigh. Bad joke, I know. But come on, nobody can take this stuff seriously. If you could make enemy troops gay, they would still try to kill you, even more so. There are a lot of gays already in the military and they do a 'fine job' like everybody else. Maybe a pacifier-bomb would be a better idea. Some chemical agent that would make the enemy so apathic that all you have to do is find them and unarm them.
:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR:
QUOTE(nonsceptic @ Jun 16 2007, 04:54 AM) [snapback]1727518[/snapback]
Possible scenario: Mass rape on US troops by extremly horny Al Queda terrorists who find blondies and latinos more attractive than their own bearded and filthy cosoldiers...


So that's the real reason they canceled the project. It would have cost too much on Vaseline cream after an attack of this nature!
Celumnaz
QUOTE(Anita Cigarette @ Jun 15 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]1727135[/snapback]
i'm guessing this "gay bomb" implied all gay people are sexual deviants?

no need to imply, it's the truth. original.gif thumbsup.gif
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deviant
ony about 1 to 5% of the population is "gay" unless you go by the alleged pedophile Kinsey's numbers of almost 10% (even with that fake number, there's still a 90% to establish a "norm" to deviate from).
http://www.google.com/search?q=what+percen...tf8&oe=utf8

not putting any "good" or "bad" labels on it, just saying it is what it is.
Thozzman
QUOTE(Affliction @ Jun 15 2007, 07:24 AM) [snapback]1725899[/snapback]
*is in awe of the genius behind the premise*

My friend had a pretty good idea, A THC bomb, so everyone would be too busy greening out to do anything.


Yes and their rations would run out quickly.
QuietOne
HAHA...i could see it now.... a bomb comes falling out of the sky painted to look like a giant "you know what".... laugh.gif
sbradj
QUOTE(:PsYKoTiC:BeHAvIoR: @ Jun 18 2007, 11:05 AM) *
So that's the real reason they canceled the project. It would have cost too much on Vaseline cream after an attack of this nature!

yes.gif
chiksta
QUOTE(Obsin @ Jun 17 2007, 03:16 AM) *
Sigh ... "walk" away or "kill anyway". Troops do not "always" kill their enemies. They take hostages, not massacre everyone despite there not being able to fight you. Massacres happen, but not all the time. Do you really think soldiers would be so cruel as to kill someone that is so unfit to fight that they are as nonhostile as a helpless neonate? If they did then some would call it genocide and mass murder. No, more likely than not these soldiers will be captured and processed into Soylent Green.

i get what your saying, but why would they take useless soldiers as hostages? maybe the captains, generals n other high ranking officers sure.. but more than likely they would kill the rest as opposed to releasing them again. as for taking pity or sparing the weak.. it's doubtful.. These men make a living out of killing men, and like you said, normal rules chivalry don't apply in war.

QUOTE(Obsin @ Jun 17 2007, 03:16 AM) *
Using this method will reduce, not erase, the psychological damage. I framed my thoughts in such a way as to point out that ideally there would be no need to "counsel for killing people" if this method makes it so that there is no need to kill. Of course people will still be killed and thus there will still be soldiers who will need the help. People will still need to be counselled anyhow for things not related to "killing". Men might have PTSD from the chemicals used and the devestation of seeing humans reduced to such a "base level". I dunno. *shrugs*


Although i like the idea of solving conflict without death and the psychological damage that goes along with it, but what about the psychological damage done to the enemy. Especially those that were married. And to those who have gone against their beliefs and morals or religions. They'd lose all sense of dignity and honour, fall into self disgust and hatred, espescially if they weren't actually 'forced' like you said.
I dooo understand what your trying to say, but i dont think anything is that simple in war. but meh, i guess that is why they didnt go through with this bomb after all.
chiksta
QUOTE(Celumnaz @ Jun 19 2007, 01:56 AM) *
no need to imply, it's the truth. original.gif thumbsup.gif
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deviant
ony about 1 to 5% of the population is "gay" unless you go by the alleged pedophile Kinsey's numbers of almost 10% (even with that fake number, there's still a 90% to establish a "norm" to deviate from).
http://www.google.com/search?q=what+percen...tf8&oe=utf8

not putting any "good" or "bad" labels on it, just saying it is what it is.


you proved that they deviate from the norm, not that they are sexual deviants. You have no facts/figures that prove they are sexually deviant, therefore it is not the truth.
well tata
gem
a gay bomb!! laugh.gif what will they come up with next?? just hope the effects dont last forever. hmm.gif
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