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JustNormal
QUOTE(veledran @ Jun 25 2007, 05:24 AM) *
While I was with S.G.R.G., we caught an orb pass thru a wall, move thru the air along the wall, and then take a very significant turn around a corner.


Yes their movement is totally different than that of dust..JN
JustNormal
QUOTE(Shakezulah @ Jun 25 2007, 08:25 AM) *
I really do believe that paranormal orbs exist. They are, as we all know, incredibly easy to fake, but I have seen some pretty solid footage of them that really can't logically be explained. I also have (or had, at least) pictures with tons of orbs in them. A few years ago, I was on vacation with my family. We were on out way to Myrtle Beach in South Carlolina, but we stopped in Athens, Ohio for a few days. Athens is considered to be one of the most haunted towns in all of the U.S. and after being there, I know why. Anyways, we were in one of the cemeteries in the town. A lot of weird stuff happened in that place, but on one occurance, we took a picture of the exact same spot two times, only a few seconds apart. One picture was perfectly clear...no dust, dirt, or moisture to be seen, the second picture was literally filled with orbs....I'm talking at least 30 or 40 of them. There was no way we could explain it. My dad, who took the picture, did not move in inch between the two shots. It was quite creepy. There were plenty of other orb shots, but none as interesting as that. I was always pretty skeptical towards orbs, and I still am, but that is almost full-proof evidence right there. I'm wondering if my dad still has the pictures from the trip? I'll see if I can find them.


I am not sure if they are "faked" or misunderstood, but in any case, I agree with you. For example I took recent shots of a very old cemetery dating back to the 1700's and not one orb, mist or anything. I attribute that to the deceased have moved on after all these years, and not earthbound any longer, hence no activity. Hope you can find those pics..JN
MasterPo
QUOTE(veledran @ Jun 25 2007, 01:24 AM) *
While I was with S.G.R.G., we caught an orb pass thru a wall, move thru the air along the wall, and then take a very significant turn around a corner.


I've seen dust orbs zig-zag, do loop-da-loops, even one that seemed to "crawl" very slowly along the bottom of the screen. Very cool but not paranormal.

How do you know it passed through the wall? Did you have a camera set up on the other side of the wall to see it enter one side and re-appear on the other?

Please Explain
If you are going to war equip with infra-red camera,
you will run out of bullets shooting orbs, ghost, plasma etc.
FLY SPITTA
I don't know much about Orbs many pics I seem look like bad lighting effects and things like that, but not sure. All i know is some people believe them to be spirits or energy like that. Here's a few pics I found of some recent sighting or orbs found in the woods.



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Shakezulah
The second pic definately looks like water or some kind of moisture drop on the lense. The first kind of looks like an odd reflection off of a branch or something.
stormgasm
QUOTE(Regency @ Jun 18 2007, 02:20 PM) *
Orbs don't do it for me either - long ago, when people used film in their cameras, orbs were a rarity - now, everybody has an orb photo somewhere.


Before digital cameras people didn't take anywhere near as many photos as they do today. It use to cost money, now it's free. Of course you're going to have an explosion of orb photos upon the invention of the digital camera. But at the same token you're also going to have an explosion of false orb photos. So you have to be careful when looking at photos and calling things orbs. But many photos are quite real.
someoldlady
QUOTE(solidryane @ Jul 20 2007, 03:38 PM) *
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE <snip>

Okay I agree that most orbs are not paranormal. The word fake doesn't apply. That word makes it seem like you think anyone who ever had an orb in their picture faked it. The truth is, most of them are dust, moisture or reflection. I really think you went a little overboard typing fake that many times.
JustNormal
QUOTE(someoldlady @ Jul 21 2007, 12:40 AM) *
Okay I agree that most orbs are not paranormal. The word fake doesn't apply. That word makes it seem like you think anyone who ever had an orb in their picture faked it. The truth is, most of them are dust, moisture or reflection. I really think you went a little overboard typing fake that many times.



LOL Ya think? laugh.gif
MasterPo
Agreed. Not "fake". More appropriately "misunderstood", "misinterpreted", or "overly dramatic".
JustNormal
QUOTE(MasterPo @ Jul 21 2007, 03:59 AM) *
Agreed. Not "fake". More appropriately "misunderstood", "misinterpreted", or "overly dramatic".


Or FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE...lol.... yes.gif
MasterPo
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 21 2007, 12:15 AM) *
Or FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE...lol.... yes.gif



"Fake" means someone made it happen. Someone purposely made the event occur knowing it wasn't genuine. I don't think too many people make orbs happen. Just totally, grossly over believe them to be paranormal.
JustNormal
QUOTE(MasterPo @ Jul 21 2007, 04:48 AM) *
"Fake" means someone made it happen. Someone purposely made the event occur knowing it wasn't genuine. I don't think too many people make orbs happen. Just totally, grossly over believe them to be paranormal.


LOL I know, I was quoting the FAKE FAKE FAKE poster..He/she sort of over did it... yes.gif
Please Explain
Funny he even edited the fake posts.
Sea
The one with big ''Orb'' Looks like you just put a big white dot in middle of page lol
Tiggs
Ahem.

Could I please remind the posters here of the following from the sites Terms & Conditions of use:

4b. One-word comments: Do not respond to threads or gallery pictures with derogatory one word responses such as "Fake!" or "Photoshop!". If you think something is fake then say why you think that, elaborate on your response.

Thanks in advance.
andrewf
Ords are definately real, if they weren't real they would not show up on a photograph.

The real question is, what is an orb?

Personally I believe that the vast majority of orbs are in fact caused by dust, pollen, rain or anything else that happens to be in the air at the time a photograph (with camera flash) is taken.

Orbs have only recently started showing up all over the place since the advent of cheap digital cameras. I spent £140 on mine, but this is still considered a 'cheap' one. The only way to capture a 'real' orb is to purchase a top end very expensive digital camera (£900+) that has an anti-dust feature so that if you did capture an orb on a photograph you can rule out things like dust, pollen, rain or anything else that it could logically be.

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Shadow_Wolf
QUOTE(andrewf @ Jul 23 2007, 09:03 PM) *
Orbs have only recently started showing up all over the place since the advent of cheap digital cameras. I spent £140 on mine, but this is still considered a 'cheap' one. The only way to capture a 'real' orb is to purchase a top end very expensive digital camera (£900+) that has an anti-dust feature so that if you did capture an orb on a photograph you can rule out things like dust, pollen, rain or anything else that it could logically be.

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I'd consider an 'orb' photo worthy for full investigation and analysis when it has been taken with a camera on which the flash was turned off and the IR focus beam (and any other focus assist illumination) was disabled wink2.gif
andrewf
QUOTE(Shadow_Wolf @ Jul 23 2007, 09:25 PM) *
I'd consider an 'orb' photo worthy for full investigation and analysis when it has been taken with a camera on which the flash was turned off and the IR focus beam (and any other focus assist illumination) was disabled wink2.gif


Couldn't agree more! I still think there is something in orbs so to speak, just that since the advent of digital cameras false ones have been popping up all over the place. But hey, at least it is getting people talking about the paranormal which must be a good thing as that keeps forums like this one thriving!

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MasterPo
QUOTE(andrewf @ Jul 23 2007, 04:03 PM) *
Ords are definately real, if they weren't real they would not show up on a photograph.


Optical illusions look real too but aren't.

I'm not saying that orbs are just light for no reason. But false orbs are more commonly a microscopic spec of dust or moisture reflecting light. So yes, those orbs are "real" in that there is something underlying it. But not real as in paranormal.

Episteme
QUOTE(primordial @ Jun 22 2007, 08:45 PM) *
I wonder though on who was the first gave the world the wrong impression that orbs are spirits..now everything is a mess. What picture was it?


So they claim: (<--- that's the source)

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When we coined the term "orb" back in 1996 to explain the supernatural anomalies that we were capturing on film and digital format, we never thought that our coined term "orb" would become the label used to describe these spheres of light by the entire ghost hunting community.

We created the Orb Theory based on the findings of our field investigations and through our research. We discovered that an orb represented the soul of a departed person. The soul being the essence of who they were in life, complete with their intelligence, their emotions and their personality. The orb or sphere is common in our every day lives. The earth and moon are spheres. Our blood cells are sphere shaped. The vision of Black Elk describes hoops within hoops. We use the symbol of the circle to represent eternal existence, with no beginning nor end.


These are the people that claim responsibility for the discovery of this entire phenomenon. They also show photo examples of particles and "spirit orbs". They must be highly trained orbologists, I see no differences in most. huh.gif

So I did my own little investigation, I've heard of them but hadn't peeked around at their photos. Right off the bat my eye was drawn to a photo called "Parallel Dimensions". Wha??? According to "Dr. Dave", "The blur in the second photo is not due to slow shutter setting, but due to the transition of another dimension reality overlapping into this dimension." Here are the photos. Looks like slow shutter to me. Especially on the first, where the left girl has two obvious faces!

I plan to look more, but I think I've seen enough to form an opinion on these folks. laugh.gif

For the record (for those who don't know my orbpinion), some video evidence I've seen has convinced me that some of these may be real. But I'd only call them orbs because that's the closest description I've heard. Maybe if one was captured on photograph from several angles with eyewitnesses, but a single photo isn't very solid evidence without a lot to back it up - IMO.


JustNormal
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 21 2007, 10:19 AM) *
Funny he even edited the fake posts.



LOL Some people!!! blink.gif
andrewf
QUOTE(MasterPo @ Jul 24 2007, 12:53 AM) *
I'm not saying that orbs are just light for no reason. But false orbs are more commonly a microscopic spec of dust or moisture reflecting light. So yes, those orbs are "real" in that there is something underlying it. But not real as in paranormal.


That's exactly what I meant, orbs are real as in most cases they are caused by dust/pollen/moisture etc. which are real things!

There maybe the odd one that could be paranormal but since digital cameras came on the scene I don't think we will ever be able to distinguish one that maybe paranormal.
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