SEI 312
Jun 19 2007, 03:55 AM
I found this paper written by some lady who works for the Washington Times..pretty interesting...and pretty sad that they only reason hate crimes against whites aren't talked about is because of political correctness. Whites make up 84% of the American Population, why are White Americans so scared of such a small %?
Study: 'Hate Crimes' Not
Big Problem in Race Relations
By Robert Stacy McCain
The Washington Times
Violent crimes like murder, assault, robbery, and rape cause far more damage to U.S. race relations than officially recognized "hate crimes," a study based on federal crime statistics concludes.
The study reports that some 1.7 million violent interracial crimes involving blacks and whites are committed annually. But in 1997 only 4,105 of those were deemed "hate crimes" under the Hate Crimes Statistics Act of 1990, according to a study by the New Century Foundation, based in Oakton, Va.
Although Americans most often think of "hate crimes" as acts by whites against racial minorities -- such as last year's killing of James Byrd in Texas by three white ex-convicts -- the majority of violent crime across racial lines are committed by blacks against whites, the study finds.
Black-on-white crimes were almost nine times as frequent as white-on-black crimes, the study reports. "Hate crimes are thought to be the most serious acts of interracial crime . . . but it is likely that the millions of ordinary interracial crimes -- 90 percent of which are committed by blacks against whites -- are more damaging to race relations," the study concludes.
Jared Taylor heads the New Century Foundation. He is author of Paved With Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America, a 1991 book that documented fundamental problems with U.S. policies on civil rights, crime, and welfare.
Academics who have studied crime rates said that although some of the New Century report's conclusions may seem startling, the statistics about crime and race are well known to researchers.
Source: Click Here.
Redtail
Jun 19 2007, 07:12 AM
Any links to this study? Sorry but I just can't take a "race" supremacist (Black, White, whatever) at their word.
thunkerdrone
Jun 19 2007, 08:47 AM
QUOTE(Redtail @ Jun 19 2007, 02:12 AM)

Any links to this study? Sorry but I just can't take a "race" supremacist (Black, White, whatever) at their word.
those statistics are well known. The illuminati control the media, a lot of the black on white crime is ignored due to political agendas.
Our media is controlled by Jewish people with an agenda to destroy white society and largely made up of masonic operatives more
than willing to help out.
asc.rudeboy
Jun 20 2007, 01:42 AM
now dont turn this into some huge secret nwo agenda,,,the simple fact is old white people are feeling sorry and making up for the crimes of our fore fahters,,
if a white man goes into a black neighboorhood and gets beat up and robed,,,then he was somewhere he wasnt saposed to be and was asking for trouble,,,and black kid gets beat in a white neighborhood then thats a race crime,,,now if you ask me being so the "hey thats just they way it is" is raciest as hell,,,,the news reports it like well this is just how the black community acts,,,,like it is normal for them to beat a white person or robe and shoot someone,,,,they report it like they are not shocked because they are expected to act that way,,now how raciest is that..
the simple fact is whites are held at a higher stander and are not expected to act that way so it must be a hate crime not a act of simple violence.. when a group of whites beat a black or other race it must be a hate crime,,,,plenty of videos online of a group of blacks jumping a whiteboy and it classified as a mugging not a hate crime,,,guilty of being white in the wrong neighborhood.,,,,,....
rich white people feeling sorry for the sins of their for fathers,and not wanting to deal with the rev.al and look like they are raciest give into this double standard ,not a nwo
xohxcdancing
Jun 20 2007, 01:49 AM
Found this while searching the internet. Has some good points:
You call me -Edit- and you think it's OK.
...But when I call you -Edit- you call me a racist.
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
-You have the United Negro College Fund.
-You have Martin Luther King Day.
-You have Black History Month.
-You have Cesar Chavez Day.
-You have Yom Hashoah
-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
-You have the NAACP.
-You have BET.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.
-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
I am white.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Now watch, I'll be a racist for posting this
So what? no one will re post this for fear of being called racist
HONESTLY I FIND THE WHOLE SITUATION EMBARASSING!!!
itsnotoutthere
Jun 20 2007, 01:42 PM
QUOTE(xohxcdancing @ Jun 20 2007, 02:49 AM)

Found this while searching the internet. Has some good points:
You call me -Edit- and you think it's OK.
...But when I call you -Edit- you call me a racist.
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
-You have the United Negro College Fund.
-You have Martin Luther King Day.
-You have Black History Month.
-You have Cesar Chavez Day.
-You have Yom Hashoah
-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
-You have the NAACP.
-You have BET.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.
-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
I am white.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Now watch, I'll be a racist for posting this
So what? no one will re post this for fear of being called racist
HONESTLY I FIND THE WHOLE SITUATION EMBARASSING!!!
A good point well made.
contactismade
Jun 20 2007, 01:44 PM
good point dancing
Celumnaz
Jun 20 2007, 01:53 PM
Since I haven't seen anything supporting it that makes sense, I think "Hate Crimes" are stupid (worse) and those thought police that support these laws in legilature should be removed from office for lack of judgement.
y'know... I never realized those that killed Byrd were ex-cons...
ASOP
Jun 20 2007, 02:01 PM
Very well said. I do feel the same way I am not racist.
Cradle of Fish
Jun 20 2007, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(xohxcdancing @ Jun 20 2007, 01:49 AM)

Found this while searching the internet. Has some good points:
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
Thats because those areas are really poor, there are white ghettos in the world and crime runs rampant there, it has NOTHING to do with race.
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-You have the United Negro College Fund.
Aren't there college funds which discriminated against blacks up untill the civil rights movement? It probably should be done away with though.
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-You have Martin Luther King Day.
Black people were oppressed for hundreds of years, white people havent been oppressed by anyone. Martin Luther King Jr. gave black people equal rights which they didn't have for centuries.
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-You have Yom Hashoah
That really has nothing to do with race. It's for remembering the victims of the Holocaust.
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-You have the NAACP.
Now that there is equal rights, this organisation doesn't need to exist. However, alot of people haven't caught up with the fact that racism is a thing of the past (like the creator of this chain letter maybe), and it seeks to protect the civil rights of people from the white supremists out there.
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-You have BET.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
True, I'm not sure whats on BET but there probably doesnt need to be black only TV, thats the same sort of segregation that they were fighting against 50 years ago.
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-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
White peoples lives are already advanced enough. As for White Pride, why would you be proud about having a lighter skin tone than most other people? Why cant we just be proud to be Human beings for once? But no, everyone has to be divided up into groups, whites and blacks, catholics and protestants, liberals and conservatives, rich and poor. Being divided damages society. White and Proud people have to get over themselves and realize that we're all descended from africans. Infact, white skin is thought to be a mutation, hows that for the supposed purity of the white race?
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-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
They were marching for their rights, and they got them. I dont see white people being denied their rights, do you?
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-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
I am white.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Now watch, I'll be a racist for posting this
There are black racists out there, but the white ones outnumber them. Why not set a good example by being a proud human being instead of a proud member of a divisive race?
punkmonkey123
Jun 20 2007, 02:38 PM
cradleoffish.... You said what was needed to be said... I applaud you
truethat
Jun 20 2007, 02:39 PM
Why is it that white people sprang ahead? I have always wondered about this. We talk about racism in black and white, like the white people were just handed good favor and got ahead. The plagues of disease and wars in Africa are no different than the European suffering in the dark ages. In the Middle East while the white men were suffering the Arabs were pulling ahead with discoveries in science and philosophy.
The black community is always so angry at the white community like they had everything just handed to them on a silver platter. But the truth is from the dark ages to the building of the US the white folks have basically started over and over again, suffering through disease, war and distruction and managed to become a very very successful dominant race.
Why do you think the white race has been able to do this so easily where countries like Africa which has been around a lot longer is still in the toilet?
I've often wondered this. Is it because the white race was more aggressive? Or more intellectual in their pursuits? Or what?
Curious what people's views on this would be.
And please don't turn this into a smash down hate fest because I am asking earnestly not sarcastically.
goalienan
Jun 20 2007, 02:53 PM
I was taught to respect everyone, no matter what race or color they are...My parents were from the old school, where the italians, polish, etc., all lived in the same neighborhood...My feeling is that to get to where you want, all people have to work for it....I read not too long ago, that the U.S. jails, were holding 89% of black people, mostly teens...That was scary....No mention was made of white teens....My kids were bought up not to be prejudiced with any race, but if a friend, white, black, asian was causing problems, then stay away....We make our own life, and I don't believe that anyone is handed anything on a silver platter...You earn what you make of your life....Just my opinion....
glorybebe
Jun 20 2007, 03:04 PM
QUOTE(truethat @ Jun 20 2007, 07:39 AM)

Why is it that white people sprang ahead?
I've often wondered this. Is it because the white race was more aggressive? Or more intellectual in their pursuits? Or what?
Curious what people's views on this would be.
And please don't turn this into a smash down hate fest because I am asking earnestly not sarcastically.
I wonder, too. There were other societies that were ahead in different areas ( the Arabs had plates, not trenchers, which the Crusaders brought back to Europe. The Chinese had what would become gunpowder.) It really makes one wonder.
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Black people were oppressed for hundreds of years, white people havent been oppressed by anyone. Martin Luther King Jr. gave black people equal rights which they didn't have for centuries.
White people were once slaves as was just about every race on this planet. It had/has been something that humans do/did since one society was stronger than another society. The Vikings had slaves from all over the western world. And let's not forget who started the "black slave trade'-other Africans. In war between two tribes, there would be prisoners. The prisoners were soon found to be valuable commodities.
What I am trying to say is not that the American slave days were not horrible, they were. It's just that the 'blacks' were not the only ones who were slaves. Right now, today we have horrible instances of slavery. They shut down three "massage" parlors here in BC a couple of years ago that were filled with women that were brought to Canada illegally and FORCED to work as prostitutes. Let's take a broader view rather than a narrower one. And it is the HUMAN RACE that is the most cruel on this planet, and if anyone of this race can exploit anther of this same race, they will.
Let's start promoting the unity of all races so that we can stick together and stop the atrocities on this planet, as the diseases that threaten our very existence. That is what I teach my daughter-that we are all ONE race.
truethat
Jun 20 2007, 03:10 PM
Well that's what I mean too. If its true that white people weren't the slaves of anyone, I'm curious as to why the white people ever had the upper hand to enslave anyone. We do know that slavery existed all through history, from the Jews in Egypt and then of course in other places.
But when the white man started buying black slaves, we can see that in their minds being sold a slave by an African tribal leader put in their minds that these people were totally animals. If they black tribe leader is selling the slave and the man looks "savage" then of course to a white European the slave is going to look "less than him."
I'm not saying that its true and of course I think slavery in any form is wrong. But I'm thinking of the mindset of the people back then.
You come to a place that is undeveloped and have people in huts selling you have naked men then its going to be pretty easy to rationalize that this person is not the same as you.
Why did white man have the upper hand? Africa existed a lot longer than Europe did and yet they are still decades behind modern advancement.
What was it that caused the Europeans to get ahead. People tend to act like white people were just dumped into an already existing society. But they built that society. So why didn't the Africans?
glorybebe
Jun 20 2007, 03:41 PM
QUOTE(truethat @ Jun 20 2007, 08:10 AM)

Well that's what I mean too. If its true that white people weren't the slaves of anyone, I'm curious as to why the white people ever had the upper hand to enslave anyone. We do know that slavery existed all through history, from the Jews in Egypt and then of course in other places.
But when the white man started buying black slaves, we can see that in their minds being sold a slave by an African tribal leader put in their minds that these people were totally animals. If they black tribe leader is selling the slave and the man looks "savage" then of course to a white European the slave is going to look "less than him."
I'm not saying that its true and of course I think slavery in any form is wrong. But I'm thinking of the mindset of the people back then.
You come to a place that is undeveloped and have people in huts selling you have naked men then its going to be pretty easy to rationalize that this person is not the same as you.
Why did white man have the upper hand? Africa existed a lot longer than Europe did and yet they are still decades behind modern advancement.
What was it that caused the Europeans to get ahead. People tend to act like white people were just dumped into an already existing society. But they built that society. So why didn't the Africans?
There was a thread, not sure which one, now, that mentioned that Africa had actually been quite advanced, but as with most advanced societies, it fell and the peoples ended up just trying to survive. while interesting, I don't really buy it. Could the climate have anything to do with it? In the northern climes, sturdier shelter had to be built to survive. And for safety's sake, homes were built close together, thus communities. The domestication of animals meant they did not have to travel to hunt, ts they could focus on more than just surviving. In Africa they had shelter, too, but would travel to hunt animals, thus leaving the home front not very well guarded, which left them open to raids. If they were in constant flux like that, then there
could be a reason why they were a little behind the northern societies.
Oh, and whites were slaves to other whites all through history.
Cradle of Fish
Jun 20 2007, 04:18 PM
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Jun 20 2007, 03:04 PM)

What I am trying to say is not that the American slave days were not horrible, they were. It's just that the 'blacks' were not the only ones who were slaves. Right now, today we have horrible instances of slavery. They shut down three "massage" parlors here in BC a couple of years ago that were filled with women that were brought to Canada illegally and FORCED to work as prostitutes. Let's take a broader view rather than a narrower one. And it is the HUMAN RACE that is the most cruel on this planet, and if anyone of this race can exploit anther of this same race, they will.
Let's start promoting the unity of all races so that we can stick together and stop the atrocities on this planet, as the diseases that threaten our very existence. That is what I teach my daughter-that we are all ONE race.
Well, there have been slaves of all 'races', what I meant to say is it's never been as extensive as the african slave trades were.
glorybebe
Jun 20 2007, 04:37 PM
QUOTE(Cradle of Fish @ Jun 20 2007, 09:18 AM)

Well, there have been slaves of all 'races', what I meant to say is it's never been as extensive as the african slave trades were.
There is a slave trade today that is scary to me. Children sold as sex slaves? Women forced to be prostitutes? People being sold to feed others fetishes? The slaves of that time were at least sold as workers. I know that some were used for other purposes, there have always been people with abnormal tastes out there, but on average,t hey were not sold to be horrible tortured until their death. That is the difference I see.
Have you even checked into other histories? Slaves were sold in China and if they were appealing enough, they were chosen for cannibalistic purposes.
I mean I live in Canada where a lot of slaves escaped to, the history of it is very abundant here. I am not saying that is wasn't horrible to have your children sold off to some other plantation and to never see them again. But, it was not like it wasn't done for thousands of years to other races. Maybe what the difference is that we (as a society) had progressed far enough that we should have had enough empathy to see that the slave trade was horrible. And don't think that it was solely for the horrible treatment of the enslaved peoples that the Civil War happened, $$$$$ was a huge incentive for the North. The South was just too rich because of the slave trade. It was greed as much if not more so than the freedom of the slaves that the war even happened. Look at how the black soldiers were treated by the Northerners if you want to see really racism.
thunkerdrone
Jun 20 2007, 05:07 PM
QUOTE(Cradle of Fish @ Jun 20 2007, 09:29 AM)

Black people were oppressed for hundreds of years, white people havent been oppressed by anyone.
Absolute crap. The rich have always oppressed the poor, no matter what the color their skin.
The rich banking elite are always playing off one side against another. Black against white, muslim against christian.
The rich want to destroy white society so that they can create a Chinese style dictatorship in America, and then
NO ONE will have rights.
I am tired of every ad on television making white guys out to be idiots, and every show on
television putting blacks in positions of authority and greater respect than whites, and the news media refusing to
report the reality of black crime against whites, and the news media refusing to report the AIDS rate among blacks.
I am sick of seeing pretty little white women brainwashed by unions and sucking up to black guys while supporting radical feminism and affirmative action and listening to their crack-bimbo music at every fancy little mall shop, while taking it up the crack from some aids-infected spasticball player,
all in the name of building some utopian masonic one-world government.
Demented old homosexual men run the world now, and try to force their excrement down the throats of the youth of the nation.
Political correctness is insane
jaylemurph
Jun 20 2007, 05:47 PM
It's interesting that people here seem to think that racism no longer exists in the US. It probably makes you /feel/ better to think that way, and frees you to entertain your own prejudices, but it just highlights your ignorance or laziness.
White culture solely ruled this country for centuries; even though it's not completely true today, the fixtures it created are still around. It's still possible for lazy whites never to think too hard about how hard life can be for others.
QUOTE(xohxcdancing @ Jun 19 2007, 09:49 PM)

Found this while searching the internet. Has some good points:
You call me -Edit- and you think it's OK.
...But when I call you -Edit- you call me a racist.
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
>Because they're poor. Because they're rife with drugs. Because time and again police ignore the goings-on there. Because people have given up on the hope of a better life. Because even jail is better than the ghetto, sometimes.
-You have the United Negro College Fund.
>That's right. See below.
-You have Martin Luther King Day.
>We have President's Day (no black presidents).
-You have Black History Month.
>And Women's History Month, and Hispanic History Month and Gay Pride Weeks. Is your point simply that White History is superior to these, or that the contributions made by minorities aren't important enough to be discussed the rest of the year?
-You have Cesar Chavez Day.
>See above. Again, are you suggesting the systematic exploitation of Latino workers should be celebrated instead? If so, please go but some Starbuck's coffee.
-You have Yom Hashoah
>Well, this is a religious celebration, not a holiday, so it's not quite the same. Nobody's forcing anyone to celebrate this... or Cesar Chavez day for that matter...
And besides, why should we feel bad people were committing genocide?
-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
-You have the NAACP.
-You have BET.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
>No, we'd call it CBS. Or NBC. Or ABC. Or FOX...
-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
>Well, yes, as you can essentially celebrate it 365 days a year.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
>Again, no point since we effectively celebrate it 12 months a year.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
>Well, if you think the KKK /isn't/ racist...
-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.
>No, there are plenty of scholarships out there that do. Just because you're too lazy to do research about who wins these awards doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
I'm willing to go out on a limb and say no black kid ever won the Sons of Norway Scholarship prize.
-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
>Because blacks and whites are always treated exactly the same all the time...
-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
>And of course you have proof of this anecdotal story, right? It wouldn't just be a nasty story to further propaganda, would it?
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
>No, it's just when you say you're better than the other races, not just that you're proud of yourself. There is a difference.
I am white.
I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Now watch, I'll be a racist for posting this
>Well, to call a spade a spade.
Somehow I find self-serving, rationalizing prejudice much more offensive than basic stupidity.
So what? no one will re post this for fear of being called racist
>Sadly, someone did. Probably a lot of someones.
Still, the First Amendment protects everyone.
HONESTLY I FIND THE WHOLE SITUATION EMBARASSING!!!
>Yep. But I mean, racism is okay just as long as it's /casual/, right?
--Jaylemurph
Cradle of Fish
Jun 20 2007, 06:05 PM
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Jun 20 2007, 05:07 PM)

Absolute crap. The rich have always oppressed the poor, no matter what the color their skin.
The rich banking elite are always playing off one side against another. Black against white, muslim against christian.
The rich want to destroy white society so that they can create a Chinese style dictatorship in America, and then
NO ONE will have rights.
The rich oppressed the poor? Even if thats true it really has nothing to do with race. It's human beings with alot of pieces of shiny metal or paper oppressing people with only a few pieces of shiny metal or paper. What I was talking about is state sanctioned discrimination.
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I am tired of every ad on television making white guys out to be idiots, and every show on
television putting blacks in positions of authority and greater respect than whites, and the news media refusing to
report the reality of black crime against whites, and the news media refusing to report the AIDS rate among blacks.
Wow you must be living in a completely different world to the rest of us. The media to me portrays black people as criminals and drug addicts. But if you're right, there should be more black leaders and intellectuals than white ones. And I dont think the AIDS rate among blacks is any higher than it is among everyone else in the US. Africa yes, but that's due to lack of education.
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I am sick of seeing pretty little white women brainwashed by unions and sucking up to black guys while supporting radical feminism and affirmative action and listening to their crack-bimbo at every fancy little mall shop while taking up the crack from some aids-infected spasticball player,
all in the name of building some utopian masonic one-world government. Demented old homosexual men run the world now, and try to force their excrement down the throats of the youth of the nation.
Political correctness is insane
Oh, so you're either an angry white conspiracy nut or a troll?
Bella-Angelique
Jun 20 2007, 06:12 PM
QUOTE(Celumnaz @ Jun 20 2007, 08:53 AM)

y'know... I never realized those that killed Byrd were ex-cons...
I did not know this either and I do remember that I watched a lot of the coverage.
eqgumby
Jun 20 2007, 06:13 PM
QUOTE(asc.rudeboy @ Jun 19 2007, 08:42 PM)

now dont turn this into some huge secret nwo agenda,,,the simple fact is old white people are feeling sorry and making up for the crimes of our fore fahters,,
if a white man goes into a black neighboorhood and gets beat up and robed,,,then he was somewhere he wasnt saposed to be and was asking for trouble,,,and black kid gets beat in a white neighborhood then thats a race crime,,,now if you ask me being so the "hey thats just they way it is" is raciest as hell,,,,the news reports it like well this is just how the black community acts,,,,like it is normal for them to beat a white person or robe and shoot someone,,,,they report it like they are not shocked because they are expected to act that way,,now how raciest is that..
the simple fact is whites are held at a higher stander and are not expected to act that way so it must be a hate crime not a act of simple violence.. when a group of whites beat a black or other race it must be a hate crime,,,,plenty of videos online of a group of blacks jumping a whiteboy and it classified as a mugging not a hate crime,,,guilty of being white in the wrong neighborhood.,,,,,....
rich white people feeling sorry for the sins of their for fathers,and not wanting to deal with the rev.al and look like they are raciest give into this double standard ,not a nwo
I made bold what is likely the stupidist, most racist, backwards statement I've seen in a long time.
And if you're referring to Al Sharpton, he is an embarassment to humanity, let alone Black American humanity. He makes his living off of hate and fear, and does NOTHING to help any one but himself.
eqgumby
Jun 20 2007, 06:16 PM
QUOTE(Cradle of Fish @ Jun 20 2007, 09:29 AM)

*snip*
There are black racists out there, but the white ones outnumber them. Why not set a good example by being a proud human being instead of a proud member of a divisive race?
Any data to support this? I bet if you did a survey, scientifically, you'd find this to be totally the opposite.
Celumnaz
Jun 20 2007, 06:19 PM
Redtail
Jun 20 2007, 06:26 PM
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Jun 20 2007, 05:07 PM)

Absolute crap. The rich have always oppressed the poor, no matter what the color their skin.
The rich banking elite are always playing off one side against another. Black against white, muslim against christian.
The rich want to destroy white society so that they can create a Chinese style dictatorship in America, and then
NO ONE will have rights.
So the only "society" in America that would even try to stop this is "White society"?
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I am tired of every ad on television making white guys out to be idiots,
Yeah, that KFC commercial with the Black father Screaming "YES!!" because of KFC using a new oil, The Black wife coming in to find her Black husband holding a knife in one hand and a cat dripping red (spagetti sauce) in the other, The Black guy watching TV and the lottery numbers are heard in the back ground and he yells "WHOOOOO!!!!" and... ah crap that's enough.
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and every show on
television putting blacks in positions of authority and greater respect than whites,
Oh now this is interesting, The only shows I know of like this are
24 and
The Unit (Same actor btw Dennis Haybert)but I must ask, do you feel that Blacks shouldn't be in a position of athority over Whites? I'm being considered for the job of Program Head (Acting) at 3 universities all starting in 2008, should I withdraw?
QUOTE
and the news media refusing to
report the reality of black crime against whites,
What should the reports say? "All Blacks are criminals"? I'll tell you what I'm sick of. I'm sick of a 6'3" Dark skinned guy robbing a store on the other side of Tallahassee and jumping into a red 94 Chevy S-10, then 5 minutes later My 5'7" Light skinned behind gets pulled over in my dark copper 2005 Chevy Silverado kingcab and searched.
QUOTE
and the news media refusing to report the AIDS rate among blacks.
A true problem in the Black community. See, many in the Black community are anti-homosexual and this ,sadly, gave rise to the
Down Low sub culture. The DL set is pretty much a bunch of gay guys who can't admit they are gay thus they get married or make sure they keep a girlfiend but get together guys on a regular basis. No condoms can be used because that would be like admiting they were gay.
QUOTE
I am sick of seeing pretty little white women brainwashed by unions and sucking up to black guys while supporting radical feminism and affirmative action and listening
to their crack-bimbo at every fancy little mall shop while taking up the crack from some aids-infected spasticball player,
Aw man... My fiancee (a "pretty little White woman") has been brainwashed by the United Senic Artists to fall in love with me? Dang I thought I was cute.
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all in the name of building some utopian masonic one-world government. Demented old homosexual men run the world now, and try to force their excrement
down the throats of the youth of the nation.
Political correctness is insane
Hmmm I see you aren't big on homosexuality either. (I always felt "the more gay guys the better, more women for me." but ... Meh.)
Bella-Angelique
Jun 20 2007, 06:27 PM
Looks like just cause to call in the troops if this is the wave of the future.
Thug rule and planned murder days cannot be tolerated in any civilization.
Redtail
Jun 20 2007, 06:33 PM
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Jun 20 2007, 06:27 PM)

Looks like just cause to call in the troops if this is the wave of the future.
Thug rule and planned murder days cannot be tolerated in any civilization.
Planned murder days?
ASOP
Jun 20 2007, 06:35 PM
Whoa slow down what's up if white women are with black men???
Redtail
Jun 20 2007, 06:39 PM
QUOTE(ASOP @ Jun 20 2007, 06:35 PM)

Whoa slow down what's up if white women are with black men???
Weird huh? At times I wonder how I wound up in 1962 and how the hell did the internet go back in time with me.
atom286
Jun 20 2007, 07:09 PM
Sod Martin Luther King and other people like Elton John this is what I want-
A NORMAL NATION.
One where I can be proud to be British because I am British. One where my own people come first because its our nation.
One where all the Liberal extremists have been kicked out so we no longer have to worry about perverts on tv and in the music industry trying to polute the minds of our children.
One where the people are positive and confident instead of negative with low self-esteem.
One where people are good, hard working and decent.
One where we have our community back.
One where people respect and trust each other.
One where materialism and captialism has been destroyed.
One where the family is the preference instead of the single parent mother with 5 kids by differant fathers living in a council house who has never worked.
One where criminals get flogged if their crime is bad, and executed if it is horrendous.
One where if your a petty black criminal you get deported. (I dont see why we should put ourselves out for immigrant criminals).
One where there is no jobseekers but goverment work schemes if lacking a job.
One where there is no positive descrimination against whites in employment (especially the civil service).
One which is a normal nation for the normal native people.
And I tell you what some people can call me a bigot, racist, facist or whatever they like but it doesnt work on me.
I stood as a councillor for the BNP and I will be doing again.
Just so you know I got huge amounts of votes, so I know this veiw is the widely held popular belief, despite the lies, the negative media and the UAF.
ASOP
Jun 20 2007, 07:14 PM
Listen I understand why some of us question the special things that black people get and yes I'm one of them but I do not dislike black people or any other race I think that we all should get the same treatment no race is before any other. My children are half black I dont want any special college fund for them they will work for a grant. This is 2007 and yet some still cant get over the fact that we are all not one color if by some miracle one day there will be no racism the world will be a BEAUTIFUL place.
jaylemurph
Jun 20 2007, 07:25 PM
QUOTE(atom286 @ Jun 20 2007, 03:09 PM)

Sod Martin Luther King and other people like Elton John this is what I want-
A NORMAL NATION.
One where I can be proud to be British because I am British. One where my own people come first because its our nation.
One where all the Liberal extremists have been kicked out so we no longer have to worry about perverts on tv and in the music industry trying to polute the minds of our children.
One where the people are positive and confident instead of negative with low self-esteem.
One where people are good, hard working and decent.
One where we have our community back.
One where people respect and trust each other.
One where materialism and captialism has been destroyed.
One where the family is the preference instead of the single parent mother with 5 kids by differant fathers living in a council house who has never worked.
One where criminals get flogged if their crime is bad, and executed if it is horrendous.
One where if your a petty black criminal you get deported. (I dont see why we should put ourselves out for immigrant criminals).
One where there is no jobseekers but goverment work schemes if lacking a job.
One where there is no positive descrimination against whites in employment (especially the civil service).
One which is a normal nation for the normal native people.
And I tell you what some people can call me a bigot, racist, facist or whatever they like but it doesnt work on me.
I stood as a councillor for the BNP and I will be doing again.
Just so you know I got huge amounts of votes, so I know this veiw is the widely held popular belief, despite the lies, the negative media and the UAF.
I'm sure you can find a neo-Nazi commune still, somewhere in the wilds of South America.
Just show them your hand-me-down Black shirt.
--Jaylemurph
Viva la Battle of Cable Street!
contactismade
Jun 20 2007, 08:01 PM
Your are just as obviously bias as atom Jayle so come off your high horse.
You actually make a point here against yourself.
What exactly is different from atom being proud of his historical heritage thats different from an African American?
So you would have no problem with Africans insisting that all the white people leave Africa but you do have a problem with Atom saying that people who immigrate to Britain and commit crime should be tossed.(lets not forget that there were no black people in Britain before the age of expansion so his assertion that indigenous people are white is correct)
You spout intollerence for his ideas, while being just as guilty of bad attitude. I've read your entries, are you perhaps African American?
With a couple exceptions his comments are not offensive. Actually some of them are worthy goals.
I too tire of the me first attitude these days.
atom286
Jun 20 2007, 08:01 PM
Well racism may be wrong but it doesnt mean we should abandon our common sense does it?
atom286
Jun 20 2007, 08:06 PM
I actually think helping less fortuante people is ok even if they are - dare I say it - black.
But we should be coming first in ur own countries and then other peoples should be helped with whats left.
I dont believe in laying out the red carpet for anybody else at all
Mmm I must sound like the strangst so called neo you've ever met.
EmpressStarXVII
Jun 20 2007, 08:19 PM
What is the point in being proud of your skin colour? It only separates us further.
"I'm proud to be white because my people have...."
"I'm proud to be black because my people have...."
I don't judge success or failure by colour. We're all human, we're all we got in this world. There is no point in the pissing contest we all seem to be caught up in.
contactismade
Jun 20 2007, 08:26 PM
Im proud of my scottish heritage. But I don't attach my cultural beliefs or culture to everything I do like some do.
jaylemurph
Jun 20 2007, 08:30 PM
QUOTE(contactismade @ Jun 20 2007, 04:01 PM)

Your are just as obviously bias as atom Jayle so come off your high horse.
You actually make a point here against yourself.
What exactly is different from atom being proud of his historical heritage thats different from an African American?
>None.
So you would have no problem with Africans insisting that all the white people leave Africa but you do have a problem with Atom saying that people who immigrate to Britain and commit crime should be tossed.(lets not forget that there were no black people in Britain before the age of expansion so his assertion that indigenous people are white is correct)
>Well, that's a bit of a false premise... There aren't any Africans calling for that in this thread. Also you're making an incorrect comparison between "all white people in Africa" leaving but only those (presumably non-whites because of the comparison) "who immigrate to Britain to commit crime" being 'tossed". Before any crime is committed though, how can you tell who's entering a country merely for crime? And why should they be forcibly removed instead of serving prison time in their new country?
And well, white is a broad term. Before 'the age of expansion' -- whatever that is -- there were several races in Britain: Celts, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Romans, Picts... None of which would lump themselves into a single race. They've spent the past two thousand years tussling with each for control and have yet to resort to en masse exiles. (Only the Jews got that treatment).
You spout intollerence for his ideas, while being just as guilty of bad attitude. I've read your entries, are you perhaps African American?
>You're right. I think it's totally okay to mock folly, racism and prejudice. I'm totally pro prejudice against prejudice. Such a bent has a long and respected place in English letters.
But no, I'm not black.
With a couple exceptions his comments are not offensive. Actually some of them are worthy goals.
>No, but some of them are. And most of his tactics have a rather nasty ring of "the ends justify the means" which one too many episodes of Doctor Who have made repugnant to me.
But most of all, I don't want anyone who isn't me -- any at all who isn't me -- to determine what is "normal" for me. Something which Atom seems all too eager to do (but then again, he IS a politician.)
I too tire of the me first attitude these days.
>Problem is I can't trust his ethics, morals, or beliefs -- especially when they pose a danger to my rights.
I mean, is it too much or him to have his own beliefs without forcing them on everyone else?
--Jaylemurph
DemonWatcher
Jun 20 2007, 08:46 PM
Throughout all of history One Culture or powerful individual has openly pressed their beliefs on another, regardless of who was at the recieving end.
on the racism note, tis be all B.S.
thunkerdrone
Jun 20 2007, 09:09 PM
QUOTE(Redtail @ Jun 20 2007, 01:26 PM)

So the only "society" in America that would even try to stop this is "White society"?
Yeah, that KFC commercial with the Black father Screaming "YES!!" because of KFC using a new oil, The Black wife coming in to find her Black husband holding a knife in one hand and a cat dripping red (spagetti sauce) in the other, The Black guy watching TV and the lottery numbers are heard in the back ground and he yells "WHOOOOO!!!!" and... ah crap that's enough.
Oh now this is interesting, The only shows I know of like this are 24 and The Unit (Same actor btw Dennis Haybert)but I must ask, do you feel that Blacks shouldn't be in a position of athority over Whites? I'm being considered for the job of Program Head (Acting) at 3 universities all starting in 2008, should I withdraw?
What should the reports say? "All Blacks are criminals"? I'll tell you what I'm sick of. I'm sick of a 6'3" Dark skinned guy robbing a store on the other side of Tallahassee and jumping into a red 94 Chevy S-10, then 5 minutes later My 5'7" Light skinned behind gets pulled over in my dark copper 2005 Chevy Silverado kingcab and searched.
A true problem in the Black community. See, many in the Black community are anti-homosexual and this ,sadly, gave rise to the Down Low sub culture. The DL set is pretty much a bunch of gay guys who can't admit they are gay thus they get married or make sure they keep a girlfiend but get together guys on a regular basis. No condoms can be used because that would be like admiting they were gay.
Aw man... My fiancee (a "pretty little White woman") has been brainwashed by the United Senic Artists to fall in love with me? Dang I thought I was cute.
Hmmm I see you aren't big on homosexuality either. (I always felt "the more gay guys the better, more women for me." but ... Meh.)
yes, how rare to see a television commercial dare to cast a visible minority in an unflattering light. MAybe there is hope for us yet.
Blacks are virtually never cast in a subservient role on television, and as I said, white males are constantly pilloried as fools and slobs and wimps.
Maybe it is starting to change a bit, because people are getting so sick of it that they are tuning television out.
I have no problem with your having a white girlfriend.
What I oppose is the supremacy of black culture, where in some cities you cannot enter a shopping mall
or a women's shop without hearing absolutely nothing but black music playing all day, and the unions will hire nothing but blacks and women. Children are bombarded
with hip-hop culture at school dances and in children's television 'programming', and their entire vocabulary of street slang is that of blacks.
All of this is accepted by whites largely because they are kept in ignorance of the reality of the hatred, violence, and sexually transmitted disease
that black America inflicts on white people.
People should be equal, with equal opportunity. imo, A lot of this overkill in support of black culture is almost intentionally crafted to engender resentment among whites.
Instead of creating equality, it is creating as much resentment as 'tolerance'.
The whole idea of forcing integration at such a frenetic pace is to prepare the nation for one world government.
Celumnaz
Jun 20 2007, 09:15 PM
you're describing "American Ghetto Culture" (a result of politics in economics)... not "Black" culture (say... some guy in Ethiopia)... right?
Edit: if American Ghetto Culture is the right term even... I dunno
Edit2: that doesn't explain the white suberban... the um, Emenem types "neds" or whatever that do the same thing, that's entitlement and a need to be a victim I guess
Redtail
Jun 20 2007, 10:00 PM
QUOTE(thunkerdrone @ Jun 20 2007, 09:09 PM)

yes, how rare to see a television commercial dare to cast a visible minority in an unflattering light. MAybe there is hope for us yet.
Blacks are virtually never cast in a subservient role on television, and as I said, white males are constantly pilloried as fools and slobs and wimps.
Maybe it is starting to change a bit, because people are getting so sick of it that they are tuning television out.
What TV are you watching? CSI: Warrick is subservient to Grissom. Law and Order SVU: Detectives Tutuola and Jeffries are subservient to Cpt Cragen. Hell in The Unit, Blaine is subservient to Col Ryan. What do you want? Black only playing drug addicts/dealers, pimps, hos, maids and loveable old bums who'll break into a song and soft shoe?
QUOTE
I have no problem with your having a white girlfriend.
Ok you just kind of went on a rant there.
QUOTE
What I oppose is the supremacy of black culture, where in some cities you cannot enter a shopping mall
or a women's shop without hearing absolutely nothing but black music playing all day,
Well if it's mostly Black people living there and they make up most of the customers then odds are they are going to play Black music. When I walk by Hot Topic in the mall here I hear Manson or Nine Inch Nails
QUOTE
and the unions will hire nothing but blacks and women.
So there are no white guys that belong to a union who have a job? That's news to me.
QUOTE
Children are bombarded
with hip-hop culture at school dances and in children's television 'programming', and their entire vocabulary of street slang is that of blacks.
Actually if one looks at Ebonics and The Jeff Foxworthy Redneck dictionary it's very similar. As far as the school dances, many feel that hip hop has a better dance beat than most. What children's programming are you talking about?
QUOTE
All of this is accepted by whites largely because they are kept in ignorance of the reality of the hatred, violence, and sexually transmitted disease that black America inflicts on white people.
All of us? Wow I must have missed that meeting.
QUOTE
People should be equal, with equal opportunity. imo, A lot of this overkill in support of black culture is almost intentionally crafted to engender resentment among whites. Instead of creating equality, it is creating as much resentment as 'tolerance'.
I agree with the first part. As for the second, you do realize that many (albeit today I wouldn't say most) Whites have resented Blacks since American slavery was abolished don't you?
Bella-Angelique
Jun 20 2007, 10:20 PM
QUOTE(Redtail @ Jun 20 2007, 05:00 PM)

Whites have resented Blacks since American slavery was abolished don't you?
Actually it began before that. Slavery and all imported cheap labor lowers wages. It did then and it still does.
Redtail
Jun 20 2007, 10:30 PM
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Jun 20 2007, 10:20 PM)

Actually it began before that. Slavery and all imported cheap labor lowers wages. It did then and it still does.
Very true.
aztek
Jun 20 2007, 10:41 PM
racism will always be here as long as there are races, there is nothing anyone can do about it,
atom286
Jun 20 2007, 10:45 PM
QUOTE(EmpressStarXVII @ Jun 20 2007, 09:19 PM)

What is the point in being proud of your skin colour? It only separates us further.
"I'm proud to be white because my people have...."
"I'm proud to be black because my people have...."
I don't judge success or failure by colour. We're all human, we're all we got in this world. There is no point in the pissing contest we all seem to be caught up in.
I dont think you get it.
I am not a racist, a skinhead, a thug, a Nazi, a biggot or anything else like that. I AM AN INDIVIDUAL.
I make my own decisions in life, I do what I want to do. I come up with my own ideas. I do not succumb to peer pressure or bullying. I have the confidence to stand out from the crowd and do my own thing. Thats what you're trying to take away from the British. You saying to us hey you're not allowed to be an individual we all have to be the same. What right do you have to tell us that, who do you think you are God?
Well I am differant from you. I am even differant from some of my own people to. I dont gang up on them in a crowd and try and bully them into my way of thinking. If you try and tell me I have to be you then I'll tell you now - get lost. Who the hell do you think you are?
I am an individual not a sheep, and I always will be.
atom286
Jun 20 2007, 10:50 PM
Can I ask you do you think people are intitled to be individuals?
Do you think a nation is allowed to be an individual?
thunkerdrone
Jun 20 2007, 11:14 PM
QUOTE(Redtail @ Jun 20 2007, 05:00 PM)

What TV are you watching? CSI: Warrick is subservient to Grissom. Law and Order SVU: Detectives Tutuola and Jeffries are subservient to Cpt Cragen. Hell in The Unit, Blaine is subservient to Col Ryan
I must admit I am out of the loop when it comes to modern fiction on television. I tuned television out ten years ago because I was
so disgusted with what I was seeing. As I said, maybe things are beginning to improve a bit.
QUOTE
Well if it's mostly Black people living there and they make up most of the customers then odds are they are going to play Black music. When I walk by Hot Topic in the mall here I hear Manson or Nine Inch Nails
I live in socialist Canada, and it is majority white in Toronto. There are a tiny number of blacks in most suburbs in Canada,
yet you hear nothing but black music in the malls and the shops. Three quarters of the radio stations specialize in playing Seal, Janet Jackson, Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey, etc.
For all I know I am probaby three years out of date.
I do not even keep up with the names anymore.
asc.rudeboy
Jun 21 2007, 01:10 AM
QUOTE(eqgumby @ Jun 20 2007, 12:13 PM)

I made bold what is likely the stupidist, most racist, backwards statement I've seen in a long time.
And if you're referring to Al Sharpton, he is an embarassment to humanity, let alone Black American humanity. He makes his living off of hate and fear, and does NOTHING to help any one but himself.
i agree 100% with Al sharpton,,,he sets back race relations a 100yrs every time he picks up a fake fight against the so called man..
did you read the rest of that comment that you thought was so stupid and raciest?? i was taking a stand for the way blacks are shown in the news,,the fact that violent crimes are expected from the black community and wouldn not be labeld a hate crime because that is how blacks act,..so if i get jumped by a group of black guys because im white in thier hood,thats not a hate crime?? its just a randome act of violence right,,,,but a black guy getting his beat down in a white hood,will be labed as a hate crime,,,show me the last time a group of black kids jumped a white kid and were charged with a hate crime,,,it hasnt happend...because the news and general society believe thats how the black coumminty behaves,,,,and blacks are just as much to blame for the view point because they accept it and believe thats just the way it is.......now do i believe their are actual hate crime commited in this country by whites ,,of course their are and they should be punished but i think it should be balanced,,,whites are not the only race that should be charged with that crime...
,,",now if you ask me being so,,,, "hey thats just they way it is" is raciest as hell,,,,the news reports it like well this is just how the black community acts,,,,like it is normal for them to beat a white person or rob and shoot someone,,,,they report it like they are not shocked because they are expected to act that way,,now how raciest is that.."
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