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TBoneMinister
QUOTE(Lt_Ripley @ Jun 24 2007, 06:41 AM) *
mmmmmmmmm no. for the questions it asked THERE ARE correct answers for them.

for example -

3. What is God's name?
Answer: A

Jealous. --This is a petty self-described insecurity from a supposedly all-wise leader.
"For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." (Exodus 34:14)

Righteous.

Holy. --Sometimes the name of God is described as "holy" (see Psalm 99:3), but the name itself is not "Holy." In Isaiah 29:23, the name of God is given as "The Holy One of Jacob."

Jehovah. --The name "Jehovah" is a Christian mistake. It was forbidden to pronounce the name "YHWH" (Yahweh), and readers of the Hebrew scriptures were supposed to say "Adonai" in its place. "In written texts the vowels of Adonai were combined with the consonants YHWH to remind readers to pronounce Adonai instead of Yahweh. The incorrect hybrid, 'Jehovah,' arose from Christian misunderstanding in the late Middle Ages."(Harper's Bible Dictionary)
4. How should parents treat a stubborn and rebellious son?
Answer: D

He should be beaten seven times with a whip made of horsehair.

He should be stripped and humiliated at the gate of the city.

He should be expelled from the family.

He should be stoned to death. --This cruelly excessive Mosaic law was actually enforced at one time by the Massachusetts colony and has been used to justify child abuse and murder.
"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them; Then shall his father and mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of the city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear." (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

"And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:17) "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he that cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)
why I think some here are balking at the test is because it is showing them some things they'd rather not look at.


I knew everything you just posted....it showed me nothing new. As to Jehova, it is a conjunction, but not necessarily a mistake. This is an example of a theological THEORY.....it actually stands for both (since wer're playing with theories, i'll throw out another comman one) YHWH and Adonai, therefore being His name(s) as well. Many of the quotes, though direct, are taken out of context and contain no right answer. Some of the questions don't have an answer at all b/c, as I've said many times, it's all theological perspective. As I also mentioned.....there are many things in the Bible to be looked at with inspiration by the Holy Spirit.
TBoneMinister
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Jun 24 2007, 06:44 AM) *
not neccesairly. For example, when the Assyrians, who had a great reputation of brutality Conquered Hebrew cities, they spared most of the people and sent them as servants thoughout their land.

Compassion as well as wanton brutality are recorded in those ancient times, but almost zero compassion among the Hebrew conquerors of Cannan.

When the Hebrews conquered a Cannanite city, Yahweh suppoedly told them to KILL every man , woman and child,, and the pets and farm animals.



If you would read the rest of the CONTEXT it was b/c the area was full of unrighteous, sinful, people practicing idolatry much like Sodom. If you want to point out mass killing, look at the flood. All except one family destroyed. WHy? Noah was the ONLY man who was righteous, which caused him to find favor in God's eyes. These were justified.....if you look at the times they disobeyed and took slaves (servants), it always ended with coruptness within them.
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(TBoneMinister @ Jun 25 2007, 01:30 AM) *
If you would read the rest of the CONTEXT it was b/c the area was full of unrighteous, sinful, people practicing idolatry much like Sodom. If you want to point out mass killing, look at the flood. All except one family destroyed. WHy? Noah was the ONLY man who was righteous, which caused him to find favor in God's eyes. These were justified.....if you look at the times they disobeyed and took slaves (servants), it always ended with coruptness within them.


a world wide flood never happened. proof of such would be easy to find. there is none.
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE(draconic chronicler @ Jun 24 2007, 07:44 AM) *
not neccesairly. For example, when the Assyrians, who had a great reputation of brutality Conquered Hebrew cities, they spared most of the people and sent them as servants thoughout their land.

Compassion as well as wanton brutality are recorded in those ancient times, but almost zero compassion among the Hebrew conquerors of Cannan.

When the Hebrews conquered a Cannanite city, Yahweh suppoedly told them to KILL every man , woman and child,, and the pets and farm animals.


It was common practice to among many conquering nations to ship the chosen members of the populace out as slaves and was not regarded as an act of compassion.

The practice of leveling conquered cities and destroying all life within was standard for the Egyptian military at that time, the nation from which that group of Hebrews came from. Given all the names of the different peoples they were consorting with in a very short period of time, it is obvious that they did not kill all of the peoples in all of the cities anymore than it is likely that Noah's flood covered all of the earth.

However, given the fact that non-biblical records agree on this Egyptian behavior it is a good guess that they did do so to some cities or towns. It is also a good guess that since it is Egyptian it would not have actually been divinely inspired as a new behavior but rather just some more of doing things the way they had always been done "back home".

It is from this point on that the ancient religion that began out of Ur in Sumaria takes on a decided Egyptian flavor that it then never really loses much of until the Babylonia conquest.
TBoneMinister
QUOTE(Lt_Ripley @ Jun 25 2007, 06:37 AM) *
a world wide flood never happened. proof of such would be easy to find. there is none.


Explain the finding of the ark in the Asian mountains?
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(TBoneMinister @ Jun 25 2007, 11:26 PM) *
Explain the finding of the ark in the Asian mountains?


your wrong. no one has ever found the Ark. plenty claim to have seen it. no proof. they even brought down wood which dated in the middle ages.

Noah's Ark Quest Dead in Water -- Was It a Stunt?
Stefan Lovgren
for National Geographic News

September 20, 2004
In April businessman and Christian activist Daniel McGivern announced with great fanfare a planned summer expedition to Mount Ararat in Turkey. The project, he said, would prove that the fabled Noah's ark was buried there.

Explorers have long searched for the ark on the Turkish mountain. At a news conference in Washington, D.C., McGivern presented satellite images, which he claimed show a human-made object—Noah's ark—nestled in the ice and snow some 15,000 feet (4,570 meters) up the mountain.

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"We are not excavating it," McGivern told the audience. "We're going to photograph it and, God willing, you're all going to see it." If successful, he said, the discovery would be "the greatest event since the resurrection of Christ."


The announcement received generous news coverage. But the U.S. $900,000 expedition quickly hit a snag: The Turkish government refused to grant the explorers permission to climb the mountain. Soon, the mission itself was put on ice.

But how credible was the expedition in the first place?

McGivern may have been more interested in generating publicity than mounting a serious search, critics now suggest. By making an early announcement, he may have tried to persuade the Turkish government into granting him a permit. Few expeditions have actually obtained clearance to climb Mount Ararat, which is located in a military zone.

The choice of expedition leader—a Turkish academic named Ahmet Ali Arslan, who claims to have climbed Mount Ararat 50 times in 40 years—also raised a red flag with those familiar with previous expeditions.

(Neither McGivern nor Arslan responded to requests by National Geographic News for interviews for this story.)

Arslan was involved in a 1993 documentary, aired on CBS television, which claimed to have found the ark. Some of the evidence presented in that documentary turned out to be a hoax, raising concerns about Arslan's testimony.

Some archaeologists charge that Noah's-ark expeditions like McGivern's are nothing but wild-goose chases. Even if the ark existed, these scholars argue, it is unlikely that the wood from the boat would still be preserved today, thousands of years later. Moving ice is likely to have swept away any wooden structure, experts say.

"These expeditions are a waste of time, energy, and money—all of which could be put to much better use by supporting existing scholarly excavations around the world," said Eric Cline, a historian and archaeologist at the George Washington University in Washington, D.C.

In the CBS documentary, The Incredible Discovery of Noah's Ark, a man named George Jammal displayed what he claimed to be an ancient piece of wood from inside the ark. Jammal, an Israeli actor living at the time in Long Beach, California, later said the wood was actually from some railroad tracks in Long Beach. He admitted he had never set foot in Turkey.

The documentary also dramatized a 1989 solo expedition by Ahmet Ali Arslan in which he claims to have come within 200 feet (60 yards) of the ark and photographed it. But experts have questioned the authenticity of the photos and Arslan's story.

"Ahmet is a big talker," said one well-known ark researcher, who asked that his name be withheld so as not to jeopardize his own chances of obtaining an expedition permit from the Turkish authorities. "In one conversation he will say that he has 3,000 photos, and in another conversation ten minutes later 5,000 photos."

No Proof

For years, attempts by McGivern to have satellite images taken of Mount Ararat failed. In the summer of 2003 he recruited DigitalGlobe, a commercial satellite-imagery firm, to try again. This time, a heat wave that hit Europe that year had partially melted the snowcap on top of the mountain.

McGivern claimed the new images showed a large structure, with vertical beams and one horizontal beam, buried on the mountain. He said he was 98 percent sure it was the ark.

Most experts, however, were skeptical. The object in the images could easily be a rock formation, they said, adding that some of the photos were nonscientific and fuzzy.

"It's very easy to get something that looks like it's man-made [in these images]. But once you get there, it turns out to be nothing," said Lorence Collins, a retired geology professor at California State University at Northridge and an expert on photo-geology. "It's simply hopeful thinking."

WorldNetDaily.com, a politically conservative Web site that often reports religious news, quoted McGivern: "The government of Turkey did not issue a research visa, which is sad, but it's their country. We haven't totally given up, but it's pretty obvious they're not going to give us one."

Melting Glaciers

If Noah's ark exists, could it be buried on Mount Ararat? That depends on whether the flood actually happened.

Some Christians were encouraged by a theory advanced by Walter Pitman and William Ryan, two geology professors at Columbia University in New York. The researchers suggested that a great deluge at the end of the last ice age, 8,400 years ago, caused the Aegean Sea to overflow into the Black Sea.

However, other geologists argue the Black Sea was already full by the time Noah is said to have sailed off on his ark. They say a much slower rise in the sea level occurred up to 12,000 years ago, as the glaciers melted.

"Evidence [instead] points conclusively to strong outflow from the Black Sea basin into the Mediterranean through the intervening Marmara Sea since about 11,000 years ago," said Richard Hiscott, a professor of earth sciences at Memorial University in St. John, Canada.

Most geologists seem to agree that it would probably be impossible for a ship to make landfall at an altitude of 15,000 feet (4,570 meters). (Some explorers claim the ark is buried elsewhere, noting the Bible talks about several mountains.)

Cline, the George Washington University historian and archaeologist, calls the Noah's ark expeditions "fringe archaeology."

"Speaking strictly for myself," he said, "I am happy to stay out of such an area of debatable research."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...s_ark.html#main

like I said , there is NO evidence of a world wide flood at all - if there had been a world wide flood it would be easy to see. Just as the line marker globally found for the impact that happened 65 million years ago that wiped out the dinos. it is visable and found globally. a dated mesurement .
CAptain Scuttle Tew
Ahoy Mate,
The survey does tent to “pick N chose. I scored 42, but most of it was realizing the survey was trying to pick N chose absurdities out of context. Oh, yes, the Old Testament is quite violent and full of “fun” things like children being squashed and virgins being raped. I guess it just reflects another period in the barbaric history of us humans. Let’s face it; we all have quite a few millennia of blood on our hands.
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