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FrankBlunt
Hello,

On page 21 of the thread titled Demonology 101, I offered energy healing to another member. This is something I have been able to do on an in-person and distant basis since December of 1999.

Primarily I have given relief to sufferers of inflammation and chronic pain. This has largely consisted of migraines, arthritis, and cold symptoms. As inflammation is the catalyst for so many ailments, I have not yet explored the breadth of the ability.

Please be aware that I do not diagnose, nor do I use energy to pry into others' personal lives. I've had one remote viewing experience and one successful prediction with two women I treated, but both cases were during sleep and entirely unintentional. Rest assured, I will not divulge anything that I may learn as a result of heightened connection.

I'll begin by allowing three volunteers per day, and I will repost to let you know when to expect your turn. All dates and times provided should be Pacific (GMT - 8:00) to avoid asking for the locations of the participants. If there is a particular body part you want treated, you're welcome to mention it within the thread, or via PM if it is of a more sensitive nature.

Please select a time when you will not be operating a motor vehicle or heavy machinery since I may cause drowsiness.

Regards,
Brian
Wombat
You're a bit (read: extremely) delusional, maby a science book will help.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Wombat @ Jun 21 2007, 10:25 PM) *
You're a bit (read: extremely) delusional, maby a science book will help.


Hey! It's my old buddy, Wombat. Google the term "Reiki". What I do is no different. Accredited medical professionals fund studies in this practice.

You weren't there to see my cat reacting to the energy when I made the discovery during the holiday weekend, nor my mother having her sinus pressure alleviated, and especially not my late father's arthritis pain subsiding for months at a time.
FrankBlunt
For those who are genuinely interested, perform a web search with the following criteria: "Pranic healing" and "Eric Robins".

Dr. Robins is a board certified urologist, and I remember reading a profile of his patient suffering from an untreatable condition. He used the hands-on form of healing, very much the way that I do by placing the hands near without actually contacting skin.
HowdyDoo
Okee Dokee:

Since I am in a lot of pain right now, and I can't afford to be in a lot of pain because my mother has cancer and needs my care, I'm going to give this a try with much hope and a little suspicion.

I am having a problem with my left foot. The doctor says it will require surgery for Morton's Neuroma, but even the surgery isn't always successful.

I have been healed before for other ailments and am willing to give it another try. Would you please consider me?

Thanks!

Also--I am having a great deal of high blood pressure problems and severe headaches as the result of a cortisone shot I received for my foot which is not working. I'm feeling altogether sick. I'll take help any way I can get it, at this point.
HowdyDoo
QUOTE(FrankBlunt @ Jun 22 2007, 01:56 AM) *
Hello,

On page 21 of the thread titled Demonology 101, I offered energy healing to another member. This is something I have been able to do on an in-person and distant basis since December of 1999.

Primarily I have given relief to sufferers of inflammation and chronic pain. This has largely consisted of migraines, arthritis, and cold symptoms. As inflammation is the catalyst for so many ailments, I have not yet explored the breadth of the ability.

Please be aware that I do not diagnose, nor do I use energy to pry into others' personal lives. I've had one remote viewing experience and one successful prediction with two women I treated, but both cases were during sleep and entirely unintentional. Rest assured, I will not divulge anything that I may learn as a result of heightened connection.

I'll begin by allowing three volunteers per day, and I will repost to let you know when to expect your turn. All dates and times provided should be Pacific (GMT - 8:00) to avoid asking for the locations of the participants. If there is a particular body part you want treated, you're welcome to mention it within the thread, or via PM if it is of a more sensitive nature.

Please select a time when you will not be operating a motor vehicle or heavy machinery since I may cause drowsiness.

Regards,
Brian


Brian--I am currently at work but won't care if I fall asleep at this point. I'm walking with a cane and my foot is killing me, even when I'm sitting.

I live in CST time--currently 11:37 a.m. I'm on the road at 7:30 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. CST to 5:00 - 5:30 p.m. CST.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 22 2007, 09:32 AM) *
Okee Dokee:
I have been healed before for other ailments and am willing to give it another try. Would you please consider me?


Hello, HowdyDoo,

I'm sorry to hear about your conditions. I can't make guarantees, but it's free of charge. What time works best for you?
HowdyDoo
QUOTE(FrankBlunt @ Jun 22 2007, 04:38 PM) *
Hello, HowdyDoo,

I'm sorry to hear about your conditions. I can't make guarantees, but it's free of charge. What time works best for you?

I don't expect any guarantees--but I'm willing to try!

Now would be good...or after 5:30 p.m. CST. Anytime on the weekend since I stay home to take care of my Mom.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 22 2007, 09:36 AM) *
Brian--I am currently at work but won't care if I fall asleep at this point. I'm walking with a cane and my foot is killing me, even when I'm sitting.

I live in CST time--currently 11:37 a.m. I'm on the road at 7:30 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. CST to 5:00 - 5:30 p.m. CST.


Since I work from home, I have some time right now. You're welcome to post your findings, positive or negative.

As you may have heard before from other healers, the healer only opens a door, while the healee resolves his/her own pain. Sometime today, I'll post the technique used to treat my own pain with the hope others will learn. Alleged Reiki Masters claim to pass on the skill to others, but I can't imagine charging someone for that service.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 22 2007, 09:41 AM) *
I don't expect any guarantees--but I'm willing to try!

Now would be good...or after 5:30 p.m. CST. Anytime on the weekend since I stay home to take care of my Mom.


Okay. It should take me about five or ten minutes to relax into my meditative state.

I'm perfectly willing to try multiple treatments, and if my Wombat Marketing Dept. serves its intended purpose, my client base will remain quite manageable.
HowdyDoo
Okay--sock it to me. It's almost lunch time here, anyway, and I usually stay in my office and sleep.

I will be sure to post anything that occurs. I'll do a little meditating, too.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 22 2007, 09:53 AM) *
Okay--sock it to me. It's almost lunch time here, anyway, and I usually stay in my office and sleep.


I finished at about 12:05 your time.

As you might imagine, it has been those with whom I had some history who were treated distantly in the past. My lack of experience with people unfamiliar to me accounts for the numerous disclaimers. I'll try reading some of your previous posts to get a better sense of your personality, but I will never ask for personally identifiable information.

In terms of alleviating my own pain, limited meditation is required with the hands-on (Hands near, actually) method. I'd label it focus or concentration more so than meditation. What it involves is placing my hand within a few inches of the affected body part. I've tested a distance of two or three feet to rule out simple heat therapy, and I've had persistent success. The best way to describe it is an act of transmitting a nerve impulse to one's hand without commanding physical movement.

On that December weekend in 1999, my right hand had been resting on a couch cushion for several minutes without the slightest motion. When I picked it up, I found it numb in a way I'd never experienced before. The cat's reaction to my hand being lowered upon her when her eyes weren't fixed upon it illustrated that there was something odd happening. I'll cut this post short since there's plenty of time to answer questions about the discovery, but I'd enjoy hearing any success stories regarding self treatment of pain.
HowdyDoo
Dear Brian:

Thanks for the attempt! Well...my foot had a burning sensation around the time of the session. Pain in foot had increased at times through my lunch hour, and then subsided. (Almost like waves of pain.) It would get better, and then revert back to the pain.

At 1:45 p.m., I took a pain pill because of the pain. Now, at 2:30 p.m., foot a little better, but head is worsening.

I'm still open to further tries, and other experiments. I don't give up easy!

I'll see what happens over the weekend.

Thanks once again!

FrankBlunt
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 22 2007, 12:27 PM) *
I'm still open to further tries, and other experiments. I don't give up easy!


HowdyDoo,

I visited the website linked to your profile, and read through some of your older posts, so my connection may improve in coming days.

I don't give up easily, either. I'll proceed with 11:00 your time on a nightly basis unless I hear otherwise. This has a relaxing affect upon me, so it's no trouble, and I'm by no means depleted by it.
Wombat
Really, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this kind of witch doctor healing works. None.

When, for example, you have sinus preassure (or a flu, or pain or just about anything), it will eventually be cured by itself. If, during the sickness, you start doing that witchdoctor stuff, you automatically think that it was your "healing powers" that did it, when in fact it happened naturally.

There is absolutely no credible medical information confirming that it is in any way possible, nor do the laws of physics allow it. Claiming that you have such non-existent powers just causes harm, because it gets in the way of any real treatment by medical professionals.

Since you obviously have blind faith in such impossibilities, I want to ask you this: are you able to "heal" anything which manifests itself physically? I have a broken nose which makes breathing through it very difficult at times. Would you be able to straighten it? I'm guessing not. You can only "heal" things that happen inside a person, that can't be measured or confirmed. You rely on someone's word when they tell you that the pain has gone and even if it has, there is no way of proving that you caused it to go away. It's all subjective and unverifiable. I mean come on... your CAT reacting to your "energy"?! What "energy" is that? I guess the vaguer you are, the safer you are...
Heru
I dont believe you can actualy heal people either but for Howdydoo's sake I hope its real. Maybe you should try some of his techinques on your own as well Howdy.
Jjbreen
Wombat -

Actually there is a study in progress right now. It's not ready for publication yet in that, well the study is still in progress. I know this because I am involved in this study in various ways.

Now this is not supporting Brian's claim, in that I know zero about Brian. So I neither deny or support his specific claim, because I simply have no clue who Brian is.

The person that is being tested is showing actually that this indeed can be done. There is also a theory on how this is being done too, that will in the future be examined.

The test is right now has confirmed that this person does help w/pain control via thought. Right now the test is going on:

The testing right now afirms that he does indeed help w/noticeable pain relief in patients. He does two options at random. States helping when he's not. States helping when he is. It is very consistant when he says he is but isn't - no pain relief is experienced by the patient - when he does indeed help, pain relief is experienced by the patient. This is being done w/4 different doctors watching and monitoring the patient.

Now this does support that there is no "healing" perse going on - just very noticable pain relief going being experienced by the patient. The tests are still going on so I am not at this time permited to release names and such of the test, if indeed it will go public. The specific person being tested is still thinking about their name being released, for obvious reasons. I have a feeling that they will not, based on one-on-one dialogs.

But I did get permission to state what I did above.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Wombat @ Jun 24 2007, 09:36 AM) *
I mean come on... your CAT reacting to your "energy"?! What "energy" is that? I guess the vaguer you are, the safer you are...


Wombat,

I wrote in a separate thread some time ago about a lupus sufferer with whom I achieved measurable results in year 2000. Her arm was red, swollen, extremely painful, and had been for two solid days. The pain resolved within 5 to 10 seconds after I began waving my hand over her arm. The redness and swelling was gone within minutes, but my intervention lasted less than a minute.

It's taken nearly 8 years for me to go this far public in testing the energy because I didn't care for the crowd of people gathering around me on the balcony of the 3rd floor lunch room in my office after I'd treated the lupus sufferer. She had a loud mouth, and I got a little taste of what celebrities complain about with paparazzi. Thankfully, the employees kept it quiet enough upon witnessing my reaction to them and permitted me to divulge the truth on my own terms.

There are a handful of people who know of my presence on this website who can speak to having felt the energy flowing from my hands. I don't know whether they are members or not, and I'm not about to pimp them for your skeptic pleasure. I don't treat my friends like tools.

I am approaching this as scientifically as possible, and I don't need to prove this phenomena to you for the sake of my emotional wellbeing. Science is exploratory, and it is correctable. Somewhere along the way, you may have forgotten that tenet.

As for my cat, since I know this is a trouble spot for you in light of my brevity, her head was facing the floor and was positioned between my knees. At a distance of several inches, I could feel her body pressing down on me with greater and greater force as my hand lowered further. After a few tests with this, she turned her head toward my face with a swift swivel of her neck and appeared frightened. The fact that she didn't jump off my lap illustrated that she was more surprised than scared, and the process didn't seem painful to her. I decided to run my hand parallel to her fur, again at several inches and a foot or two at times. She rolled over on her back to have her belly rubbed remotely. My dad testified to seeing her eyes rolled back in her head. Whether this was bliss or a trance state, I don't know.

I have been able to hold my hands apart, fully extended, and feel the tapping motion of my fingers on the opposing hand. Another co-worker I treated at the same office of the lupus sufferer felt such pressure that she thought I might have shoved her hand away had I gotten any closer than a few inches.

I will happily answer any further questions you may have. It is unlikely that I would be able to correct your deviated septum. I have the same condition. I never claimed to treat everything, did I? If a podiatrist tells you that he won't be able to perform the heart bypass you requested, does he cease to be a podiatrist?
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Heru @ Jun 24 2007, 10:39 AM) *
I dont believe you can actualy heal people either but for Howdydoo's sake I hope its real. Maybe you should try some of his techinques on your own as well Howdy.


Hello, Heru,

When I was treating one of my relative's bursitis pain yesterday, she testified to waking up in the middle of the night a few days ago in pain. She told herself that there was no reason why her shoulder should hurt, told it to stop hurting, and it did. On a subconscious level at least, she has opened that door.

The pain resolved within about a minute, and I don't claim to have eliminated or even reduced the bursa.

Reiki Masters claim to bestow the ability upon those willing to pay the fee, however expensive that may be these days. I do find it interesting that I've never met a Reiki Amateur, and I do not agree with charging people money for opening doors. It's called chivalry.


FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jun 24 2007, 10:53 AM) *
Actually there is a study in progress right now. It's not ready for publication yet in that, well the study is still in progress. I know this because I am involved in this study in various ways.


Hi, Jjbreen,

I'd appreciate knowing the outcome of the study if you're at liberty to release the findings.


JustNormal
QUOTE(FrankBlunt @ Jun 24 2007, 06:38 PM) *
Hello, Heru,

When I was treating one of my relative's bursitis pain yesterday, she testified to waking up in the middle of the night a few days ago in pain. She told herself that there was no reason why her shoulder should hurt, told it to stop hurting, and it did. On a subconscious level at least, she has opened that door.

The pain resolved within about a minute, and I don't claim to have eliminated or even reduced the bursa.

Reiki Masters claim to bestow the ability upon those willing to pay the fee, however expensive that may be these days. I do find it interesting that I've never met a Reiki Amateur, and I do not agree with charging people money for opening doors. It's called chivalry.


Hi Brian, so in this case, would it be a "mind over matter" issue regarding your relative? Thanks, JN- innocent.gif
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jun 24 2007, 12:21 PM) *
Hi Brian, so in this case, would it be a "mind over matter" issue regarding your relative?


Having experienced so many undeniable phenomena in dream and semi-conscious states, I wouldn't doubt that. It's all a matter of how one defines "the mind".
JustNormal
QUOTE(FrankBlunt @ Jun 24 2007, 08:58 PM) *
Having experienced so many undeniable phenomena in dream and semi-conscious states, I wouldn't doubt that. It's all a matter of how one defines "the mind".


Thanks, Good point.. yes.gif
FrankBlunt
This post is geared toward people proving for themselves that healing indeed works, not me spoon-feeding skeptics. Anyway, a true skeptic with scientific values says to himself:

"I'll search for, or await, evidence to prove the concept under true experimental conditions, but until such time I cannot render a determination either way."

not:

"I wasn't there, so it can't be true."

The latter sentiment is the remark of a true believer, not a skeptic.

On page 56 of Socrates' thread, "Astral Travel & My Technique", I included a relaxation method that can be used to bring one's entire body into the state attained with my hand on the evening I made the healing discovery. Click here to reach the page if you'd like to try it. Whether or not you achieve energy healing, you're going to experience some measure of tranquility.

Once you can no longer feel your dominant hand (This is obviously the one to which you apply the greatest quantity of energy), pick it up and wave it over a sensitive area of your body (Face, the hairless portion of your forearm, etc.). Don't worry, you'll have full use of it and limited physical sensation, but your pain tolerance will be dramatically increased. Patients have used similar relaxation / meditation techniques to undergo major surgery without anesthetic of any kind.

See if you detect any excess warming, tingling, or other odd sensations on the part of the body selected.

I shouldn't have to tell anyone that he/she will benefit more by learning this practice than continuing to take pain killers and anti-inflammatory drugs.
someoldlady
QUOTE(Wombat @ Jun 24 2007, 11:36 AM) *
Really, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that this kind of witch doctor healing works. None.

When, for example, you have sinus preassure (or a flu, or pain or just about anything), it will eventually be cured by itself. If, during the sickness, you start doing that witchdoctor stuff, you automatically think that it was your "healing powers" that did it, when in fact it happened naturally.

There is absolutely no credible medical information confirming that it is in any way possible, nor do the laws of physics allow it. Claiming that you have such non-existent powers just causes harm, because it gets in the way of any real treatment by medical professionals.

Since you obviously have blind faith in such impossibilities, I want to ask you this: are you able to "heal" anything which manifests itself physically? I have a broken nose which makes breathing through it very difficult at times. Would you be able to straighten it? I'm guessing not. You can only "heal" things that happen inside a person, that can't be measured or confirmed. You rely on someone's word when they tell you that the pain has gone and even if it has, there is no way of proving that you caused it to go away. It's all subjective and unverifiable. I mean come on... your CAT reacting to your "energy"?! What "energy" is that? I guess the vaguer you are, the safer you are...

There really isn't any proof that it doesn't work is there? It would be different if this were a scam to get money out of the posters here, but this is being offered free of charge, so why does it bother you so much?
Solitaia
i wouldn't mind giving this a try and being another volunteer original.gif

I'm Rachel. I have Fibromyalgia, a chronic pain illness you've probably heard of. and i'm only 16 with it, so it can get pretty tough. recently, i was basically told to get lost by the specialists in Vancouver, so I'm willing to try anything. I've been looking at alternative medicines for a while now. original.gif

I tend to get the worst pain/stiffness in my legs. Drugs don't help at all, usually. its very hit and miss.

anyways, i think it would be great if we could try it out together. original.gif

thanks.
HowdyDoo
Here is an update:

I had a rough weekend. I was up at night because of pain, but when I awoke this morning, the pain in my foot had improved significantly. I am presently walking without my cane, although slowly.

Also, over the weekend, my right knee became swollen and it became difficult for me to bend my knee. It was very bad on Saturday and Sunday, but this morning it has improved quite a bit. I find it interesting that Brian had treated someone with Lupus. My problems usually come in waves, and I was supposed to be tested for Lupus about a year ago, but the lab that took my blood forgot to send off my blood for testing, and I never got around to having it done again. I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow and will discuss going ahead with the test.

For the skeptics--I am being cautious in what I believe, but I am open to experiments and appreciate Brian's effort. He has not approached me for any type of payment. He sounds intelligent and fair. I firmly believe in the power of prayer, and I have been healed in the past from the Sacrament of the Sick. I did receive "healing touch" sessions in the past for a chronic back ailment, but never received a direct healing from that experience. It did relax me and bring to light some emotional baggage I had been carting around for some time.

I believe that with the power of the mind, you can heal yourself. I also believe that outside energies (prayer, etc.) can help bring about the healing. I firmly believe God gives special gifts to people, and we should be willing to utilize them. At the same time, we need to be aware that there are a lot of charlatans out there that would take advantage of desperate people. Common sense can usually help one filter out the weirdoes from those who are sincerely trying to help.

There is no way I would give up regular medical treatment in favor of another unless I had run out of all my other options. In other words, the one thing that may help me is surgery, and at this point, I need to put off surgery for as long as possible. If Brian thinks he can help, and I am open to it, who are we hurting?

I would like to know why I get these problems (swelling of hand, feet & knees, and nerve problems) all at the same time--almost on a cycle. Could be hormonal--or Lupus--but it has become very exhausting dealing with it.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Solitaia @ Jun 24 2007, 11:06 PM) *
I'm Rachel. I have Fibromyalgia, a chronic pain illness you've probably heard of. and i'm only 16 with it, so it can get pretty tough. recently, i was basically told to get lost by the specialists in Vancouver, so I'm willing to try anything. I've been looking at alternative medicines for a while now. original.gif


Hi, Rachel,

I heard some information about Fibromyalgia and its origins from a naturopath on public television not long ago. As I understand it, the lining of the small intestine becomes eroded, and the consequence is absorption of waste matter into the blood stream. This leads to the pain and stiffness. Supposedly, chewing food thoroughly and increasing fiber intake can prevent this condition. I'll edit this post with a link once I find the transcript of that PBS lecture, because I'm almost certain the speaker mentioned Fibromyalgia being reversible.

Edit: Below are some resources I found:

The naturopathic doctor's name is Brenda Watson. She's located at BrendaWatson.com. There is also ImmuneSupport.com.

She's a salesperson like most anyone else on PBS these days who offers lectures, but I don't think you'd have any trouble finding her resources in the library.

P.S.- I'm still willing to test the energy with you for the sake of alleviating discomfort or simply confirming the associated sensations at the time of transmission. Once again, I'm on Pacific Time, but if you're in Vancouver, then you're within the same range.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 25 2007, 08:10 AM) *
I find it interesting that Brian had treated someone with Lupus.


I'm happy to hear about the improvement, HowdyDoo.

As for the lupus sufferer, this is going to shock you. She had been prescribed Prednisone by her physician. It was supposed to be the 100mg dose pack, where the total strength for all pills combined equals 100mg. I was on the drug in '97 when my asthma attack was misdiagnosed as an allergic reaction, so I know that there's a weaning process to prevent withdrawal. Regardless, she was given a bottle with 100mg in each pill. Suffice it to say, she nearly died, and that was one sleepy pharmacist.
FrankBlunt
I wanted to respond publicly to an issue that was raised via PM. In regard to the meditation that I suggested, be aware that once I'd recognized the sensation in my hands, there was no need for further relaxation exercises when offering hands-on healing to others. At most, I spend 15 to 30 seconds ensuring that the energy has begun to flow.

The distant method requires concentration and an emotional response on my part, but not deep meditation. In a nutshell, I provoke chilling sensations and this is somehow manipulated and transmitted when I focus positive energy upon the second party.

To put in in perspective, I can carry on conversations during hands-on, but not distant, healing.
Solitaia
hmm, that's definitely very interesting.

I've been on fiber for quite some time, and i've not noticed any difference. they're so many theories on it. one's the overload of yeast, and other stuff in the blood, as you were hinting at there.'

Yeah, i'm willing to definitely give a try for easing the discomfort. original.gif anytime, haha. and i'll come on and report what happens.

thank you. I'll check out your links about now, lol.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Solitaia @ Jun 25 2007, 05:19 PM) *
I've been on fiber for quite some time, and i've not noticed any difference. they're so many theories on it. one's the overload of yeast, and other stuff in the blood, as you were hinting at there.'


Brenda Watson states in her lecture and on her website that she suffered those mysterious illnesses that originate in the digestive tract. Unfortunately, the pharmaceutical industry has had a choke hold on doctors' common sense for many years.

Exercise is obviously important, and eating several small meals throughout the day as opposed to three large ones is recommended.

Do you consume any sugar substitutes? I once heard through the grapevine (Unconfirmed, but an intelligent source I trust) that they are rather detrimental to Fibromyalgia sufferers. It might be worth a web search on your part if your answer is "yes". What I read about aspartame (Marketed as Nutra-Sweet) in medical journals while I was in college was eye-opening to say the least.

QUOTE
Yeah, i'm willing to definitely give a try for easing the discomfort. original.gif anytime, haha. and i'll come on and report what happens.


I'll surprise you. I could either PM you after the fact or post the time on this thread to gauge whether or not you "received" within the same time frame as my "delivery".

EDIT: Links to Aspartame and Fibromyalgia interactions below:

ImmuneSupport.com
FDA.gov
HowdyDoo
Here's another update:

I slept much better last night and my foot is greatly improved. I'm still having trouble with my swollen right knee. It was very painful last night, but I got into a cold pool and also iced it down quite a bit. The swelling has gone down a little and I'm walking better.

I'd like to share something that happened recently regarding this type of energy healing. Some of you already know (I've talked about it before on other threads), my mother recently had surgery to remove part of her lung because of cancer. She spent 8 days in the ICU and almost died twice. During her time in ICU, we had a visitor, Carlos, (an acquaintance of my sister's from church) who practices this type of healing energy (working with the body's chakra’s--I don't know the technical side of it). She was on a respirator and extremely sedated to keep her comfortable (they used a drug that induces amnesia, too, so her memory was impaired). I watched as Carlos moved his hands over her body, and it is one of the few things my mother can remember. She didn't understand what he was doing (she doesn't know much about this), but she said she could actually feel the energy come out of his hands and work through her body.

I can't prove this is related to a healing, but she did get out of the ICU after this and is doing much better. We still have a long road ahead of us.

Thanks for your efforts, Brian! Positive energy can only help.
F-16 Falcon
Wombat, just read your post, and I have something to say;

It's all about faith: the more you have a belief in something, the more of an effect it will have on you. Just because the evidence of this "power" may not exist, that does not mean that it doesn't exist. I remember hearing a statement once; "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" <-- Just because the evidence is NOT there, it does not indicate that this form of healing doesn't work.

By the way, there's no scientific evidence that supports the existence of spiritual entities. I know for a fact that they exist. thumbsup.gif
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Solitaia @ Jun 25 2007, 05:19 PM) *
Yeah, i'm willing to definitely give a try for easing the discomfort. original.gif anytime, haha. and i'll come on and report what happens.


Hi, Rachel,

The attempt was between 8:15 and 8:30 last night (6/25/07), with more emphasis on those two times. Also, I added two links relating to Aspartame and Fibromyalgia in my previous post to you.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jun 26 2007, 06:21 AM) *
Here's another update:

I slept much better last night and my foot is greatly improved. I'm still having trouble with my swollen right knee. It was very painful last night, but I got into a cold pool and also iced it down quite a bit. The swelling has gone down a little and I'm walking better.

Thanks for your efforts, Brian! Positive energy can only help.


Hi, HowdyDoo,

You're welcome. original.gif And I wish your mother all the best in her recovery.

I knew of your left foot, high blood pressure, and migraines, but perhaps I missed your mention of the right knee in your first post. Through relaxation, I might expect to have some temporary affect on HBP, but at the same time I recognize it as a product of stress and various lifestyle choices.

As for you and JustNormal, the attempts continue between 8:45 and 9:15 in the evening: 11:00 for you, 12:00 for her. If you begin to feel unusual sensations or sudden drowsiness within that time interval on a regular basis, I'd be willing to test random treatments for the sake of confirming validity of distant intervention. It won't be evidence to anyone other than you and I from a scientific standpoint, as skeptics could easily question the limited nature of our acquaintanceship.
HowdyDoo
QUOTE(FrankBlunt @ Jun 26 2007, 07:58 PM) *
Hi, HowdyDoo,

You're welcome. original.gif And I wish your mother all the best in her recovery.

I knew of your left foot, high blood pressure, and migraines, but perhaps I missed your mention of the right knee in your first post. Through relaxation, I might expect to have some temporary affect on HBP, but at the same time I recognize it as a product of stress and various lifestyle choices.

As for you and JustNormal, the attempts continue between 8:45 and 9:15 in the evening: 11:00 for you, 12:00 for her. If you begin to feel unusual sensations or sudden drowsiness within that time interval on a regular basis, I'd be willing to test random treatments for the sake of confirming validity of distant intervention. It won't be evidence to anyone other than you and I from a scientific standpoint, as skeptics could easily question the limited nature of our acquaintanceship.

UPDATE: Foot is still MUCH better. Knee is still sore and swollen, but not as bad as before (mornings are better than afternoons). Blood pressure is very low--my doctor has increased my blood pressure medicine. Headache is gone.

I will keep posting if I experience anything out of the ordinary at the time you've given. It would be an interesting (and possibly beneficial) experiment.

Skeptics don't concern me. There will always be skeptics--and they are what keeps the believers on their toes. We can't believe everything that flies by--I guess they are our counterbalance. Some of the negativity does get to me at times, but I just try to shake it off and move on. I find living with a spiritual belief and/or belief in something outside the physical world makes life much more enjoyable and rewarding.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jun 26 2007, 06:44 AM) *
Wombat, just read your post, and I have something to say; It's all about faith: the more you have a belief in something, the more of an effect it will have on you.


Hello, A.B.,

We probably won't be seeing Wombat in this thread again. I know his modus operandi rather well: Spite, fight, flight, repeat. In response to HowdyDoo about skeptics, I agree that they create balance. Thankfully UM's population of responsible skeptics / doubters is beginning to outnumber the staunch deniers who bring little or nothing to the table in paranormal discussion but their own fears.

As for faith, doctors who know anything about depression will tell you that feeling happy and positive is vital to maintaining optimal health. Prayer and faith are effective forms of healing for the positive emotions they bring. Whether one is praying to God directly or praying in general for another's well being without divine intent may not be relevant.

One factor I forgot to mention about the woman with lupus was her disbelief that the healing of her arm would work. She was visibly shaking with fright for several minutes after the treatment and could not carry on with the job training I'd been providing for her. So, while I had good reason to know that it would work, she had no faith in it.

Coming from an agnostic background, my history with faith in a Supreme Being slowly grew into the role of believing in a Creator, but not a patent manipulator.
FLY SPITTA
Personal opinion of mine I don't know much about this energy healing I head about it and seen some guy on the news or maybe one of those Entertainment Tonight shows can't cleary remember. Anyways he was saying how he's a evergy healer. He can tell if someone is sick getting sick just by the energy in their body. Also claimed that he could heal them! Load of crap I say. Honestly I don't think people can heal others using this so called special enery..people claim to be able to heal others and stuff like that using energy. Don't belive it that's like trying to play God. I mean there trying to heal without even using medications.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(2PAC4LIFE @ Jun 28 2007, 12:48 PM) *
Also claimed that he could heal them! Load of crap I say.


Your opinion counts, 2PAC. It's post #39 in the Energy Healing thread.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(2PAC4LIFE @ Jun 28 2007, 12:48 PM) *
I mean there trying to heal without even using medications.


I should have raised this issue previously, but we heal without medication every day. Exercise is a form of healing. Consuming a healthy balance of protein, dairy, produce, and grains is healing. Spending quality time with friends and family is healing. None of us are ever sick for lack of medication in our bodies. No matter how pharmaceutical compounds are blended for the sake of acquiring patents, they originate in nature.

You may want to explore the work of Deepak Chopra and other health professionals of whom physicians are taking notice in modifying their roles regarding healing and preventive medicine.
FrankBlunt
First, I'd like to post an update on the relative of mine who suffers bursitis. She spoke of a second incident where she held her hand against her shoulder in the hope of eliminating the pain. Whether she has awakened her ability to heal herself with energy and/or thought, or whether her hand served the function of heat therapy, I cannot judge.

Below is post #34 from FindTheVariable in his thread titled "Show Me It Now" (July 7th 12:32AM)
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...99109&st=30

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Hello again Frank,
I am curious what are you thinking during you're healings? Like what are you feeling, imagining, or intending?


If any members should find any vagueness and request elaboration, I will indulge you. While doing my best to answer your questions, I'd also like readers to step away with the confidence to attempt distant healing.

First of all, my approach is far removed from the participant in the study Jj discussed. As I said in a PM, it would be much like measuring the practice of a surgeon (Him) against a massage therapist (Me). I once described myself in jest as "Walking ibuprofen and acetaminophen", so I was amused when he said that he didn't want to be a mere aspirin. I had dealings with a woman in '06 who demonstrated abilities for me that fell somewhere between mine and his in terms of potency, so the content of the PM I received didn't come completely out of left field.

For those of you who saw "Good Will Hunting", you may remember the scene with the Harvard professor and Will's therapist in which the professor states, "I'm nothing compared to this boy." He should have said, "My mathematical abilities are inferior compared to those of Will." It's an important distinction, and because of the former sentiment, idolatry occurs and people like Jj's friend choose not to make themselves known. My distant healing is nothing compared to the study participant; but a massage therapist can easily treat a surgeon like a human being, and vice versa.

As for my discovery, it was approximately one year following a road trip when my friend and I experienced several simultaneous chills that I tested this development further. At that time, in early 1999, I hadn't yet discovered the hands-on method. Obviously, I had no reason to think that these shared sensations served any useful purpose.

I believe it was the last week of Dec. '99 when I repeated the shared chilling sensations with my mother. Since my friend and I had been in a truck, seated within a couple feet of each other, I opted for a greater distance. My mother was in the living room, and I was in the den (30 ft, roughly) To initiate the chills, I stood in the dark and intentionally startled myself with any sudden appearance of visual stimuli. The catalyst to perceiving the chills with my friend was the shock factor while swapping 'strange but true' tales to pass the time. This is why I chose to startle myself when experimenting the second time. However, I didn't want to be within visual range, nor did I want to rely on conversational elements.

Whether the visual stimuli be byproducts of tissue interactions in vitreous fluid, or energy I've learned to perceive during self-induced trance states, this is irrelevant. What seems to be relevant is building energy through strong emotion and transmitting it with positive intent. Once the first chill is achieved, subsequent pulses manifest rather easily. Simply focusing upon the link with the individual and the fascination of it tends to provoke further activity.

When my chills were pulsing at their strongest level, my mother was reacting immediately with utterances such as "Ahh! Stop!" I could tell by her tone that she was partly awed and partly amused, but not in any distress. I wasn't asking her for reactions at all, so the confirmation of evidence was equivalent to that which I had with the cat I discussed in the Energy Healing thread.

As for actual healing experience, I take whatever I know of the person, which amounted to a photograph and a series of chat sessions in one instance. The woman was 1,500 miles away from me, and she described the sensation of the migraine alleviation as if the pain was steam rising from the top of her head. In subsequent discussions, she didn't complain of any further headaches. I had to rely on her honesty, and trust that her reaction was not sugar-coated to preserve my ego, but she happened to be a fervent conservative from the South without fear of hurting another's feelings so long as truth was on her side.

Face-to-face contact and a well established relationship improves the odds of success significantly in my case. There have been failures, but there have also been confirmed links with those I'd never seen before. I do believe that this is something others, who don't deem themselves psychic, can learn to do without the economic burden of training at psychic institutes.

Since looking deeply into the eyes of another can be a powerful, chill-inducing experience, I'd suggest starting with this for anyone willing to test the concept. Failing the eye contact, you could employ the scary story technique that led to my discovery. If and when you decide to distance yourselves and/or face away from one another, you could either rely upon monosyllabic verbal cues when pulses reach their height of intensity, or invite a third party to monitor hand signals for more reliable, unbiased experimentation.

I'd label my involvement with distant healing an active form of prayer, as opposed to simply asking or hoping. If the person requests that a particular body part be treated, I imagine the pain dissolving and/or the inflammation reducing. When one wishes for a general demonstration, I imagine him/her relaxing.

The study participant from Jj's post has a strict code of ethics in conducting his healing (The woman mentioned earlier does not), and while I have never caused harm to those I've treated, I recognize the potential. If you should decide to test the exchange of simultaneous chills with another, or take it to the next level in an attempt to heal, make sure that you are directing positive emotion at the other party. You should always confirm that permission has been granted.

Some of you may have read my brief discussion with the Fibromyalgia sufferer in this thread. When I know of credible medical information regarding an illness, I direct the person to on-line sources where they can seek help if doctors have failed them. With conditions that are habit based, it would be similar to me patching and inflating a tire repeatedly when the driver promises to puncture it each time I complete the task.

As for the earlier request to repair a deviated septum, one may as well suggest an ear tuck or an eye lift. This amounts to manipulation beyond that which the body can perform for itself when all natural healing pathways are intact.

EDITED TO DEFINE LIMITS UPON PRIVATE MESSAGING:

No offense is intended to the PM respondent from earlier today who was speaking on behalf of a banned UM member, but please do not contact me with requests that I join other forums.

An offer was made to answer questions of a sensitive nature via PM, not for subjecting myself to burgeoning webmasters hoping to augment their advertising revenue.

Being that one is able to see my posts, in arriving at the decision to invite me elsewhere, this is enough. Link the information on your personal forum if you find it useful. Ignore it if you don't.
SteveLove
Thankyou very much for posting this. However I am still having trouble grasping the feeling of the chills. Is it like when you get that shiver in your body that kinda makes you spasm? They seem to come from nowhere. They usually happen during *cough cough* urinating. If this is the same shiver I would imagine it is very hard to replicate.
Jjbreen
Frank - I am super impressed w/your Crediblity and Integrity to step up to the plate w/your claim. Well done sir, well done!
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Findthevariable @ Jul 9 2007, 03:48 PM) *
Thankyou very much for posting this. However I am still having trouble grasping the feeling of the chills. Is it like when you get that shiver in your body that kinda makes you spasm? They seem to come from nowhere. They usually happen during *cough cough* urinating. If this is the same shiver I would imagine it is very hard to replicate.


Hi again, FTV,

You're welcome.

What you're referring to is most likely smooth muscle relaxation. I know that this is what accounts for the pleasure during mankind's extracurricular activity of choice, and there's often a hint of it toward the conclusion of bladder evacuation. I have replicated it, to a degree, apart from those two events. The result is pleasurable, though not sexual. This is not at all similar to the chills.

When someone or something frightens you or gives you the creeps (The proverbial hairs standing up on the back of your neck), this would be a better example of an event that triggers the chills. Have you ever been amazed or awed to the point where a sensation best described as a chill surges through your entire body? This isn't to be confused with shivering from the cold, either.

I choose to exploit the visual stimuli because the bulk of the circumstances I describe above involve placing one's attention upon a particular person; most likely one who is not the focus in establishing a link and/or a healing attempt. In addition to the tips in the prior post, you could also stand in a dark room and conjure memories from supernatural thrillers you may have seen as a child to start the process. Slowly rotating one's body in different directions and reacting to the shock factor of unknown objects/visual effects before the eyes have the chance to focus is another technique I use. I don't put any thought into what I might be seeing out of the corner of my eye, I just let the raw emotion build.

Let me know if you have other questions or need clarification.


FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jul 9 2007, 04:02 PM) *
Frank - I am super impressed w/your Crediblity and Integrity to step up to the plate w/your claim. Well done sir, well done!


Thanks, Jj. By the way, I'm going to pay close attention to my dreams tonight and see if anything might apply to your RV experiment. I'll post my findings, if any, tomorrow morning in your thread. First, I'll try it blind without viewing the material you submitted, and then the following evening as directed.

Regards,
Brian
SteveLove
Ah, yes Frank I have gotten that quite a few times. What do you think happens to the wounds or pain? For instance would a cut heal in one day after the experience, or is it more like the bruising hurts less? For me although I get them a good amount it is impossible for me to induce them, except for a 3 day period where I could seem to do them with or without wanting to, after "seeing" something in my house that is quite possibly haunted.
SteveLove
Oh something very incredible happened later this night. After reading you're last comment, FB. About an hour later not thinking about it, out of the blue. I began to experience the chills again. It's been a long while since I had them....very unexplained. I think if you're open to them they will come more. When you get them do you get them at the same spot you want to heal?
HowdyDoo
Just another update:

My foot has improved considerably.

My right knee has improved significantly but hasn't healed completely.

My test results for rheumatoid arthritis and Lupus were negative. We don't know what is causing the swelling in the knees and my foot disorders. I am in my 40's, so I am relatively still young for these kinds of problems.

I am now having trouble with my hands--very stiff and painful joints and tendons.
FrankBlunt
QUOTE(Findthevariable @ Jul 9 2007, 11:18 PM) *
Oh something very incredible happened later this night. After reading you're last comment, FB. About an hour later not thinking about it, out of the blue. I began to experience the chills again. It's been a long while since they had them....very unexplained. I think if you're open to them they will come more. When you get them do you get them at the same spot you want to heal?


FTV,

Do you have any idea what may have led to the chills? If your openness to learning about this phenomenon, or its mystery, helps in any way you could try utilizing that in the future. Some may wish to focus upon God's power, Source energy, etc., or at least their perception of its magnitude, to boost their emotional state to a chill-invoking level. This may help significantly with replication.

I've used Tai Chi style maneuvers to "raise energy", but I don't have any formal training. I lost the knack to induce chills for several months in '06. It isn't like riding a bike, because one's frame of mind is so easily altered by life events.

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When you get them do you get them at the same spot you want to heal?


As for where the chills manifest, I've learned to direct them to the areas of my body that correspond with the affected site of the one I'm attempting to heal. When they appear spontaneously, or if I'm not focusing on any particular body part, I feel them strongest in my head, upper chest, and arms down to my fingertips. With a strong pulse, it can be head to toe. Much like focusing one's impulses upon the hands in the hands-near method, the chills can be targeted with practice.

QUOTE
What do you think happens to the wounds or pain?


I plan to address your questions as best I can about what may be happening to the pain and/or inflammation, but my input would be hypothetical at best. Jj's friend may be able to explain it to your satisfaction from more of a theory standpoint. Since he is completely anonymous, I was given permission to share his methodology with others. A portion of his testimony is below in quotes.

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First off, I’ve come to see that each person’s individual brains have a unique ‘signature’ – much like our finger prints are unique and different to each person. I’ve learned to tune into their thought frequencies. But to do this, I must have some sort of way to create a first time ‘connection’. Then ‘linking’ as I term it is easy to achieve. If I have no connection, emotionally or physically, then it’s a ‘hit – miss’, because of all the thought signatures out there. Just isn’t easy to sort through all the ‘thought traffic’.

I can connect on a ‘surface level’ to any degree that I need to go, down to cellular and nerve level to in some rare cases atomic level. I communicate basically the same way their own body would communicate, if the injury or such had not created the ‘short’ in the com-line. Everyone’s body communicates internally the same way. So I just communicate on the level I need as your own brain would, if it was not experiencing the ‘short’.

This is not about ‘spirituality’ as it is about genetics and the mind. This does not rule out that spirituality can play a part in all of this. It is just that my focal point has been the ‘genetic and mental’ understanding. There are plenty of people trying to understand the “spiritual” side of this, in fact in my opinion too many people. When this gets into the ‘spiritual’ then it gets into too many different belief systems. Whereas when people do their best to keep it focused on the Physical and Mental, then there is less ‘spiritual opinions’ at play and thus less emotions, for the most part.


Notice what Jj's friend said in the third paragraph regarding emotions. I use the emotional attachment to establish the link, but I don't think success can be 100% attributed to it. There are factors at play, such as the link, that not even Jj's friend can adequately explain.

In my case, I've taken a simpler approach in believing that I open a door for that person to heal him/herself. Jj's friend proceeded to discuss medication interactions, other conditions from which the person is suffering that his interaction may aggravate, etc., but these aren't roads I've ever trodded. His efforts in the actual healing process are virtually effortless, yet with more consistent success, and for all I know there may be superfluous elements in my own methods.

Sometimes it's only a numbing effect that's achieved, so perhaps the nerve impulse signaling pain to the brain is temporarily dulled. I know that when I've treated my own headaches with the hands-near approach, for example, the pain has sometimes radiated. I then wave both hands in a circular motion to treat the periphery. This rarely occurs, and the majority of my headaches disappear within seconds. The most time I've ever spent was 3 minutes, but I was feverish from bronchitis. I used to suffer bronchitis annually, but haven't for the past three years.

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Thanks, Jj. By the way, I'm going to pay close attention to my dreams tonight and see if anything might apply to your RV experiment. I'll post my findings, if any, tomorrow morning in your thread. First, I'll try it blind without viewing the material you submitted, and then the following evening as directed.


Finally, on a lighter note, I didn't want to corrupt Jj's thread with my response to his remote viewing study. Though I will say, based on my dream last night, that if he'd been asking participants to name his preferred hotel accommodations when traveling, I might have been a winner.
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