The oral histories released on August 12, 2005 contain many recollections of the sights and sounds of explosions occuring before and during the South towers's collapse, which was the first tower to collapse. Below is the list, which is actually bigger to download. Debunkers want evidence, yet when they get it they cant accept it.......

Rich Banaciski -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
We were there I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.
Interview, 12/06/01, New York Times

Brian Becker -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 28]
So I think that the building was really kind of starting to melt. We were -- like, the melt down was beginning. The collapse hadn't begun, but it was not a fire any more up there. It was like -- it was like that -- like smoke explosion on a tremendous scale going on up there.
Interview, 10/09/01, New York Times

Greg Brady -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.) [Battalion 6]
We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard -- I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center.

We were standing in a circle in the middle of West Street. They were talking about what was going on. At that time, when I heard the 3 loud explosions, I started running west on Vesey Street towards the water. At that time, I couldn't run fast enough. The debris caught up with me, knocked my helmet off.
Interview, , New York Times

Timothy Burke -- Firefigter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 202]
Then the building popped, lower than the fire, which I learned was I guess, the aviation fuel fell into the pit, and whatever floor it fell on heated up really bad and that's why it popped at that floor. That's the rumor I heard. But it seemed like I was going oh, my god, there is a secondary device because the way the building popped. I thought it was an explosion.
Interview, 01/22/02, New York Times

Ed Cachia -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 53]
It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down. With that everybody was just stunned for a second or two, looking at the tower coming down.
Interview, 12/06/05, New York Times

Frank Campagna -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 11]
There was nobody in the intersection, nobody in the streets in general, everyone just saying come on, keeping coming, keep coming. That's when [the North Tower] went. I looked back. You see three explosions and then the whole thing coming down. I turned my head and everybody was scattering. From there I don't know who was who. I don't even know where my guys went. None of us knew where each other were at at that point in time.
Interview, 12/04/01, New York Times

Craig Carlsen -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 8]
I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit.

You did hear the explosions [when the North Tower came down]. Of course after the first one -- the first one was pretty much looking at in like in awe. You didn't realize that this was really happening because you kind of just stood there and you didn't react as fast as you thought you were going to. The second one coming down, you knew the explosions. Now you're very familiar with it.
Interview, 01/25/02, New York Times

Jason Charles -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
I grabbed her and the Lieutenant picked her up by the legs and we start walking over slowly to the curb, and then I heard an explosion from up, from up above, and I froze and I was like, oh, s***, I'm dead because I thought the debris was going to hit me in the head and that was it.
Then everybody stops and looks at the building and they they take off. The Lieutenant dropped her legs and ran. The triage center, everybody who was sitting there hurt and, oh, you know, help me, they got up and and everybody together got up and ran. I looked at them like why are they running? I look over my shoulder and I says, oh, s***, and then I turned around and looked up and that's when I saw the tower coming down.

North Tower:
We start walking back there and then I heard a ground level explosion and I'm like holy s___, and then you heard that twisting metal wreckage again. Then I said s___ and everybody started running and I started running behind them, and we get to the door.
Interview, 01/23/02, New York Times

Frank Cruthers -- Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Citywide Tour Commander]
And while I was still in that immediate area, the south tower, 2 World Trade Center, there was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top, simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse.
Interview, 10/31/01, New York Times

James Curran -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
A guy started scremaing to run. When I got underneath the north bridge I looked back and you heard it, I heard like every floor went chu-chu-chu. Looked back and from the pressure everything was getting blown out of the floors before it actually collapsed.
Interview, 12/30/01, New York Times

Kevin Darnowski -- Paramedic (E.M.S.)
I started walking back up towards Vesey Street. I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two started to come down.
Interview, 11/09/01, New York Times

Dominick Derubbio -- Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Division 8]
After a while we were looking up at the tower, and all of a sudden someone said it's starting to come down.

This would be the first one.

This one here. It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion, but I guess it was just the floors starting to pancake one on top of the other.
Interview, 10/12/01, New York Times

Karin Deshore -- Captain (E.M.S.)
Somewhere around the middle of the World Trade Center, there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building.
Interview, 11/07/01, New York Times

Brian Dixon -- Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)
I was watching the fire, watching the people jump and hearing a noise and looking up and seeing -- it actually looked -- the lowest floor of fire in the south tower actually looked like someone had planted explosives around it because the whole bottom I could see -- I could see two sides of it and the other side -- it just looked like that floor blew out. I looked up and you could actually see everything blew out on the one floor. I thought, geez, this looks like an explosion up there, it blew out. Then I guess in some sense of time we looked at it and realized, no, actually it just collapsed. That's what blew out the windows, not that there was an explosion there but that windows blew out. The realization hit that it's going to fall down, the top's coming off. I was still thinking -- there was never a thought that this whole thing is coming down. I thought that that blew out and stuff is starting to fly down. The top is going to topple off there.
Interview, 10/25/01, New York Times

Michael Donovan -- Captain (F.D.N.Y.)
Anyway, with that I was listening, and there was an incredibly loud rumbling. I never got to look up. People started running for the entrances to the parking garages. They started running for the entrances. I started running without ever looking up. The roar became tremendous. I fell on the way to the parking garages. Debris was starting to fall all around me. I got up, I got into the parking garages, was knocked down by the percussion. I thought there had been an explosion or a bomb that they had blown up there. The Vista International Hotel was my first impression, that they had blown it up. I never got to see the World Trade Center coming down.
Interview, 11/09/01, New York Times

James Drury -- Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)
We were in the process of getting some rigs moved when I turned, as I heard a tremendous roar, explosion, and saw that the first of the two towers was starting to come down.
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When the dust started to settle, I headed back down towards the World Trade Center and I guess I came close to arriving at the corner of Vesey and West again where we started to hear the second roar. That was the north tower now coming down. I should say that people in the street and myself included thought that the roar was so loud that the explosive - bombs were going off inside the building. Obviously we were later proved wrong.
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The sight of the jumpers was horrible and the turning around and seeing that first tower come down was unbelieveable. The sound it made. As I said I thought the terrorists planted explosives somewhere in the building. That's how loud it was, crackling explosive, a wall. That's about it. Any questions?
Interview, 10/16/01, New York Times

Thomas Fitzpatrick -- Deputy Commissioner for Administration (F.D.N.Y.)
We looked up at the building straight up, we were that close. All we saw was a puff of smoke coming from about 2 thirds of the way up. Some people thought it was an explosion. I don't think I remember that. I remember seeing it, it looked like sparkling around one specific layer of the building. I assume now that that was either windows starting to collapse like tinsel or something. Then the building started to come down. My initial reaction was that this was exactly the way it looks when they show you those implosions on TV. I would have to say for three or four seconds anyway, maybe longer. I was just watching. It was interesting to watch, but the thing that woke everybody up was the cloud of black material. It reminded me of the 10 commandments when the green clouds come down on the street. The black cloud was coming down faster than the building, so whatever was coming down was going to hit the street and it was pretty far out. You knew it wasn't coming right down. Judging from where people were jumping before that, this cloud was much further.
Interview, 10/16/01, New York Times

Gary Gates -- Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.)
I looked up, and the building exploded, the building that we were very close to, which was one tower. The whole top came off like a volcano.
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So now both towers have been hit by a plane. The north tower was burning. So the explosion, what I realized later, had to be the start of the collapse. It was the way the building appeared to blowout from both sides. I'm looking at the face of it, and all we see is the two sides of the building just blowing out and coming apart like this, as I said, like the top of a volcano.
Interview, 10/12/01, New York Times

Kevin Gorman -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
North Tower:
John Malley, who was right behind me, I turned around for him, because he was doing something, either putting his coat on or something, and as I was looking at him I heard the explosion, looked up, and saw like three floors explode, saw the antenna coming down, and turned around and ran north.
Interview, 01/09/02, New York Times

Stephen Gregory -- Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)
We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.
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[It was at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw.

He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them too.

I know about the explosions on the upper floors. This was like at eye level. I didn't have to go like this. Because I was looking this way. I'm not going to say it was on the first floor or the second floor, but somewhere in that area I saw to me what appeared to be flashes.
Interview, 10/03/01, New York Times

Gregg Hansson -- Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.)
That's basically where we were. Then a large explosion took place. In my estimation that was the tower coming down, but at that time I did not know what that was. I thought some type of bomb had gone off. I was, I believe, ahead of the rest of the firefighters and officers there. I made it to the corner, and I took about four running steps this way when you could feel the rush of the wind coming at you. I believed that that was a huge fireball coming at the time.
Interview, 10/09/01, New York Times

Timothy Julian -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 118]
We came out from 90 West, made a left, headed east, and right when we got to the corner of Washington and Albany, that's when I heard the building collapse.
First I thought it was an explosion. I thought maybe there was bomb on the plane, but delayed type of thing, you know secondary device.
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You know, and I just heard like an explosion and then cracking type of noise, and then it sounded like a freight train, rumbling and picking up speed, and I remember I looked up, and I saw it coming down.
Interview, 12/26/01, New York Times

Art Lakiotes -- Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Safety Command]
Tower one now comes down. Same thing but this time some of us take off straight down West Street, because we realized later on, subconsciously we wanted to be near buildings. We all thought it was secondary explosives or more planes or whatever.
Interview, 12/03/01, New York Times

John Malley -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
We were walking into darkness. As we walked through those revolving doors, that's when we felt the rumble. I felt the rumbling, and then I felt the force coming at me. I was like, what the hell is that? In my mind it was a bomb going off. The pressure got so great, I stepped back behind the columns separating the revolving doors. Then the force just blew past me. It blew past me it seemed for a long time. In my mind I was saying what the hell is this and when is it going to stop? Then it finally stopped, that pressure which I thought was a concussion of an explosion. It turns out it was the down pressure wind of the floors collapsing on top of each other. At that point everything went black, and then the collapse came. It just rained on top of us. Everything came. It rained debris forever.
Interview, 12/12/01, New York Times

Julio Marrero -- E.M.T. (F.D.N.Y.)
I was screaming from the top of my lungs, and I must have been about ten feet away from her and she couldn't even hear me, because the building was so loud, the explosion, that she couldn't even hear me. I just saw everybody running; and she saw us running, and she took off behind us.
Interview, 10/25/01, New York Times

Orlando Martinez -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
There was an explosion and after we started running, I was able to make it to Chambers and West, where I only saw one EMT, EMT Vega. She is new here. She was the only EMT I saw from the station and with all the cops and everybody else running, rescue workers. I grabbed her and I said just stay with me. We will try to get out of here.
Interview, 11/01/01, New York Times

Linda McCarthy -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
So when that one went down. I thought the plane was exploding, or another plane hit. I had no idea it was coming down. But I couldn't see it gone, because I couldn't see it really in the first place with all the smoke.
Interview, 11/28/01, New York Times

James McKinley -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
After that I heard this huge explosion, I thought it was a boiler exploding or something. Next thing you know this huge cloud of smoke is coming at us, so we're running. Everyone is, firemen, PD, everyone is running away from the World Trade Center, up Vessey Street. This is North End, we was running around Vessey and around North end to get away from the first smoke.
Interview, 10/12/01, New York Times

Joseph Meola -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 91]
As we are looking up at the building, what I saw was, it looked like the building was blowing out on all four sides. We actually heard the pops. Didn't realize it was the falling -- you know, you heard the pops of the building. You thought it was just blowing out.
Interview, 12/11/01, New York Times

Keith Murphy -- (F.D.N.Y.) []
I was standing kind of on the edge of where our elevator bank met the big elevator bank. That was when the - I determined that's when the north tower collapses. We are standing there and the first thing that happened, which I still think is strange to me, the lights went out. Completely pitch black. Since we are in that core little area of the building, there is no natural light. No nothing, I didn't see a thing.
I had heard right before the lights went out, I had heard a distant boom boom boom, sounded like three explosions. I don't know what it was. At the time, I would have said they sounded like bombs, but it was boom boom boom and then the lights all go out. I hear someone say oh, s___, that was just for the lights out. I would say about 3, 4 seconds, all of a sudden this tremendous roar. It sounded like being in a tunnel with the train coming at you.
Interview, 12/05/01, New York Times

Kevin Murray -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 18]
When the tower started -- there was a big explosion that I heard and someone screamed that it was coming down and I looked away and I saw all the windows domino -- you know, dominoeing up and then come down. We were right in front of 6, so we started running and how are you going to outrun the World Trade Center? So we threw our tools and I dove under a rig.
Interview, 10/09/01, New York Times

Janice Olszewski -- Captain (E.M.S.)
I thought more could be happening down there. I didn't know if it was an explosion. I didn't know it was a collapse at that point. I thought it was an explosion or a secondary device, a bomb, the jet -- plane exploding, whatever.
Interview, 11/07/01, New York Times

Juan Rios -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
I was in the back waiting, you know, so we could wait for patients and I was hooking up the regulator to the O-2, when I hear people screaming and a loud explosion, and I heard like "sssssssss..." the dust like "sssssssss..." So I come out of the bus, and I look and I see a big cloud of dust and debris coming from the glass...
Interview, 10/10/01, New York Times

Michael Ober -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
Then we heard a rumble, some twisting metal, we looked up in the air, and to be totally honest, at first, I don't know exactly -- but it looked to me just like an explosion. It didn't look like the building was coming down, it looked like just one floor had blown completely outside of it. I was sitting there looking at it. I just never thought they would ever come down, so I didn't think they were coming down. I just froze and stood there looking at it.
Interview, 10/16/01, New York Times

Angel Rivera -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
Mike Mullan walked one flight up, and then the most horrendous thing happened. That's when hell came down. It was like a huge, enormous explosion. I still can hear it. Everything shook. Everything went black. The wind rushed, very slowly [sound], all the dust, all the -- and everything went dark.
Interview, 01/22/02, New York Times

Daniel Rivera -- Paramedic (E.M.S.) [Battalion 31]
Then that's when -- I kept on walking close to the south tower, and that's when that building collapsed.

It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was -- do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop"? That's exactly what -- because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that's when I saw the building coming down.
Interview, 10/10/01, New York Times

Kennith Rogers -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
Meanwhile we were standing there with about five companies and we were just waiting for our assignment and then there was an explosion in the south tower, which, according to this map, this exposure just blew out the flames. A lot of guys left at that point. I kept watching. Floor after floor after floor. One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in '93.
Interview, 12/10/01, New York Times

Patrick Scaringello -- Lieutenant (E.M.S.)
I started to treat patients on my own when I heard the explosion from up above. I looked up, I saw smoke and flame and then I saw the top tower tilt, start to twist and lean.

I was assisting in pulling more people out from debris, when I heard the second tower explode. When I tried to evacuate the area, by running up Fulton, got halfway up.
Interview, 10/10/01, New York Times

Mark Steffens -- Division Chief (E.M.S.)
Then there was another it sounded like an explosion and heavy white powder, papers, flying everywhere. We sat put there for a few minutes. It kind of dissipated.

That's when we heard this massive explosion and I saw this thing rolling towards us. It looked like a fireball and then thick, thick black smoke.
Interview, 10/03/01, New York Times

John Sudnik -- Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)
The best I can remember, we were just operating there, trying to help out and do the best we could. Then we heard a loud explosion or what sounded like a loud explosion and looked up and I saw tower two start coming down. Crazy.
Interview, 11/07/01, New York Times

Neil Sweeting -- Paramedic (E.M.S.)
You heard a big boom, it was quiet for about ten seconds. Then you could hear another one. Now I realize it was the floors starting to stack on top of each other as they were falling. It was spaced apart in the beginning, but then it got to just a tremendous roar and a rumble that I will never forget.
Interview, 11/01/01, New York Times

Jay Swithers -- Captain (E.M.S.)
At that point I looked back and most of the people who were triaged in that area with the triage tags on them got up and ran. I took a quick glance at the building and while I didn't see it falling, I saw a large section of it blasting out, which led me to believe it was just an explosion. I thought it was a secondary device, but I knew that we had to go.

Within a few moments, I regrouped with Bruce Medjuck and I asked him to tell them on the radio to send us MTA buses to get people out. That didn't happen. But one thing that did happen was an ambulance pulled up which was very clean. So I assumed that the vehicle had not been in the - what I thought was an explosion at the time, but was the first collapse.
Interview, 10/30/01, New York Times

David Timothy -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
The next thing I knew, you started hearing more explosions. I guess this is when the second tower started coming down.
Interview, 10/25/01, New York Times

Albert Turi -- Deputy Assistant Chief (F.D.N.Y.)
The next thing I heard was Pete say what the f___ is this? And as my eyes traveled up the building, and I was looking at the south tower, somewhere about halfway up, my initial reaction was there was a secondary explosion, and the entire floor area, a ring right around the building blew out. I later realized that the building had started to collapse already and this was the air being compressed and that is the floor that let go.
Interview, 10/23/01, New York Times

Thomas Turilli -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
The door closed, they went up, and it just seemed a couple of seconds and all of a sudden you just heard it, it almost actually that day sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight, and then just a huge wind gust just came and my officer just actually took all of us and just threw us down on the ground and kind of just jumped on top of us, laid on top of us.

At that point were were kind of standing on the street and I looked to my left and actually I noticed the tower was down. I didn't even know that it was when we were in there. It just seemed like a huge explosion.
Interview, 01/17/02, New York Times

Stephen Viola -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
Our guy went in with 13 truck, and he was coming down with the guy from 13 truck to bring the elevator to us, and when he was either going up or coming down the elevator, that's when the south tower collapsed, and it sounded like a bunch of explosions. You heard like loud booms, but I guess it was all just stuff coming down, and then we got covered with rubble and dust, and I thought we'd actually fallen through the floor into like the PATH tubes, because it was so dark you couldn't see anything, and from there it was a little hazy from there on.
Interview, 01/10/02, New York Times

William Wall -- Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 47]
At that time, we heard an explosion. We looked up and the building was coming down right on top of us, so we ran up West Street. We ran a little bit and then we were overtaken by the cloud and we hid behind a white Suburban.

Oh, when we came out of the building and we were walking across West Street when we first got out of the building, we're walking across the street and all you heard was like bombs going off above your head. You couldn't see it. It was just cloudy. And we found out later it was the military jets. That was an eerie sound. You couldn't see it and all you heard was like a "boom" and it just kept going. We couldn't see 50 feet above our head because of the dust. So we didn't know if it was bombs going off or whatever, but we didn't want to stay there.
Interview, 12/10/01, New York Times

Louie Cacchioli-- was one of the first firefighters to enter the South Tower as it burned. A 20-year veteran of the fire department, Cacchioli told People Weekly: "I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building."

"In another video, a worker at Ground Zero describes what was found in the rubble in the way of objects other than the Towers' steel. You have two 110 story office buildings.
You don't find a desk.
You don't find a chair.
You don't find a telephone, a computer.
The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of a keypad,
and it was about this big:
(makes a shape with his hand about 4 inches in diameter)
The building collapsed to dust."

Firefighters recalling detonationsin the South Tower, in a firehouse discussion--
fireman2: We made it outside, we made it about a block.
fireman1: We made it at least 2 blocks.
fireman2: 2 blocks.
fireman1: and we started runnin'
fireman2: poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch
fireman1: Floor by floor it started poppin' out ..
fireman2: It was as if as if they had detonated, det..
fireman1: yea detonated yea
fireman2: as if they had planned to take down a building,
boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom ...
fireman1: All the way down, I was watchin it, and runnin'
fireman3: Just ran up west street.
fireman1: Then you just sort of ... this cloud of s___
just chasin' you down
fireman4: Where did you go?
fireman3: Just ran up west street.
fireman2: You couldn't outrun it.
fireman1: You couldn't outrun it.
fireman4: So what did you do?
fireman2: I jumped behind a battalion car,
I hid under the car, I was waitin' to die."

Barry Jennings--Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority.
9/11 was an INSIDE JOB CASE CLOSED.

Wow not one response to this Topic.

Debunkers ask for evidence yet you give them this vital information and all you hear is crickets. Hellooooooo "echoes"...

Nice

Ah, I got it, Death-B4-Dishonor! If someone doesn't respond within a set amount of time, then the OP must be true, eh?

Sorry. There is something called "Real Life" that intrudes on many people that precludes their posting here at all hours of the day and night.

Let's start with this web site. It does a pretty good job to start.

The quotes above are pretty amazing, An Urban Legend!! They all show the vast experience that the firefighters and EMS guys have with demolitions! With their use of "I think" and "Like" and "I guess", it shows that they are truly experts in the field. I like the repeated theme: "I thought it was a bomb, but it was Tower Two coming down!" Way to go, AUL!!

The quotes also have been conveniently cropped to exclude any frame of reference as well. Sure, it is off September Eleventh, but are all the quotes about the towers coming down, or of the second plane hitting, or what? Gosh, pretty incriminating that that part isn't put in there, isn't it?

I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy going on about this. Someone with a HUGE sense of humor is stirring the pot and trying to get a bunch of folks that WANT to see something to see a conspiracy. My vote is for Alex Jones. Jeez, guys, take a step back and LOOK at what you are calling "evidence" for a moment! Using this train of (non) logic, I can build a HUGE case to say that the sun won't rise tomorrow, and that it is all Peewee Herman's fault.

Yeah I'm not reading all of that.

Urban Legend has posted a long list of first responders who heard and saw explosions on the day of 9/11, yet all you can do is sit there and poke fun at it. So you would rather believe the Official story by the Government who has lied to you many times than the heroes, the first responders of 9/11?

"It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions."

ALL THESE EXPLOSIONS, meaning 1 or more set up explosions within the building. It doesn't take Einstein to work out that there were many explosions within the building, that can not be anything else other than the means of explosives.

Its also amazing that each and every one of those first responders are saying nearly exactly the same thing about explosions. Maybe in your world you live in they must have all got together, sat down around a table full of candy while watching Oprah and discussed what they can "LIE" about?

Don't forget also that the numerous civilians and reporters who also heard of secondary devices inside the buildings. Must of been the popping of computer monitors which travelled through the elevator shafts whilst retaining its "sound" to make such a loud noise.

And you talk about logic? lol

If logic were explosives debunker's wouldn't have enough to blow off a flea's knee cap.

DBD

Seeing as how Tiggs just CLOSED a thread liken unto this one mere hours ago...what makes you think another one is going to be okay? It has been discussed to death...literally!

Joc would you like the opportunity to discuss the topic or rather try to get another topic closed?

Discuss the topic and everything will be fine.

DBD

So if they said, "we all knew 100% that it was a controlled demolition" you'd believe them?

Which part of 'discussed to death' did you not understand? It is a moot point. There are several lengthy threads all saying the same thing...over and over and over...its redundancy is to the point that there isn't anything to discuss...except flaming...

but go ahead....discuss...

No i got the point pretty clearly, but i am yet to see YOUR POINT of view on the topic at hand, rather all i have seen in your last 2 posts is complaining or the word i would best describe it is "b****ing".

If you don't want to discuss the topic then I'm pretty sure the "General Off The Topic" thread is more of your liking.

DBD

Well, thanks for making some sort of appearance debunkers, I was waiting for the appearance of your illogic. Everyone, thanks for taking the time to read the testimony of the many brave first responders who tried to save lives on 9/11 while still having enough courage to speak about what they experienced afterwards. And Joc, I really don't feel this topic should be closed just simply because debunkers are tired of talking about it; that's like Atheist and Theist trying to stop discussing God just because they know the otherside wont agree. The point is, through discussion you learn something, and as far as 9/11 goes, we all haven't learned enough, nor do who currently know the whole truth. We can only take this testimony and other abundant evidence and review it to try and paint a picture of what really happened outside of the media's propaganda. We want the truth, nothing more nothing less. Oh and Malruhn, dont try to coach me on logic and skepticism, there is a difference between having healthly scepticism and being ignorant.

Let's evaluate .....

This EMS Captain, is describing something she experienced with her own eyes and ears because she was at the scene. She states that she seen orange and red flashes occuring around the entire building,and with each orange and red flash came explosions which got bigger, all of which travelled up and around the building. Now, this is incredible testimony, but this begs you to ask the question, "What would people have seen or heard if the towers were actually demolished"? Will not people see flashes of light accompanied by a loud explosions which would travel around the entire building's parimeter until it's fully collapsed? Yes, exactly; that is exactly what people would see. A lot of people on 9/11 have very similar testimony which matches up accurately when it comes to hearing explosions and flashes; they all saw the same phenomenon but through different preceptions. Based upon what many of these credible first responders and hero's claim they saw, there testimony EASILY fits the description of a Controlled Demolition, hands down, you cannot argue against this. Why? You cant argue against it because if there really was a controlled demolition on 9/11, the testimony of what people saw and heard would be exactly the same as what is shown above!

With the eye witness testimony as evidence, if you try to argue against the Towers being demolished what your really implying is that there is no way to distinguish between the testimony of a controlled demolition and testimony of building collapsing naturally. When in actuality, there is a large difference between what people would experience in seeing a controlled demolition and what people would experience in seeing a building collapse naturally. All of what we saw on 9/11 shown all the characteristics of a controlled demolition. Let's clarify.....

The Towers cannot exhibit a gravity driven collapse sequence while at the same time maintaining all the characteristics of a controlled demolition; this is a contradiction.

The characteristics included:
1.Radial symmetry:The Towers came straight down, blowing debris symmetricaly in all directions. This is a verifiable fact, steel ton girders were found 500ft away from the actual debris perimeter. A gravity driven collapse would not produce such an effect. The towers also fell vertically, straight down, the centered collapses meant the falling mass followed the path of maximum resistance. That's the opposite of how we would expect a structure to behave when it falls within any kind of natural process. Even if the towers were made out of legos or clay, we wouldn't expect them to collapse in such a dead-centered fashion. There are many examples in history of steel-framed buildings undergoing unintentional collapses as a result of severe earthquakes, but no such collapses have been vertical global collapses like the collapses of the Twin Towers and building 7. On the contrary, steel-framed buildings destroyed by earthquakes have toppled.


2. Rapid descent:The Towers came down just slightly slower than the rate of free-fall in a vacuum. The towers fell with little to no resistance. You have 110 story buildings falling within the range of 10-15 seconds. How do you get 110 floors, with floors under the impacted floors undamaged, to fall within 10-15 seconds, straight down? The popular belief is that the buildings pancaked, despite the explosions occuring along with flashes of light, alot of people just figured the buildings were pancaking;this is proven to be false. With the pancake theory, it requires 110 floors with intact concrete (a lot of mass) hitting the below floor and then those hitting the next floor, from that theory you would expect to see at the end of the collapse, a whole stack of floors piled upon each other with the spindals of the core columns standing once the collapse is completed. But that is not what we see, we see dust being produced from the very start of the collapse, at the top. If there is dust being produced where is the mass which causes the collapse? As a set of floors hits a stationary floor that would slow the collapse down but to get the collapse to be rapid, you would have to have the mass moved out of the way. Now what can move mass out of the way in order for a collapse to be rapid? Explosives, exactly what Eye Witnesses were describing, along with flashes of light.

3.Demolition waves:The Towers were consumed by synchronized rows of confluent explosions.
Ed Cachia -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 53]
It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down. With that everybody was just stunned for a second or two, looking at the tower coming down.
Interview, 12/06/05, New York Times

Kennith Rogers -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
Meanwhile we were standing there with about five companies and we were just waiting for our assignment and then there was an explosion in the south tower, which, according to this map, this exposure just blew out the flames. A lot of guys left at that point. I kept watching. Floor after floor after floor. One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in '93.
Interview, 12/10/01, New York Times

The Eye Witness reports are consistant with this characteristic of a synchronized row of explosives which are only seen in controlled demolitions. In the picture below we can see how perfectly even the collapse is, advancing with what appears to be rows of explosions progressing in a perfectly straight line around the building, and advancing down in an extremely uniform way. The demolition wave is actually advancing ahead of the actual collapse of the structure, and speeds up as it travels down! As the demolition wave advances there is only dust and smoke where the top of the building used to be, and a great quantity of dust mixed with small pieces of structural steel which is ejected out horizontally at high speed. To account for this phenomenon of very rapid ejection of debris without the use of high explosives, especially in the early stages of the collapse, seems quite impossible.


4. Demolition squibs:The Towers exhibited high-velocity gas ejections well below the descending rubble.

Debunkers claim these are not because of explosives, but are from air being compressed and push out because of the pancaking floors, but this also has been proven false. Through photos and video it is evident that the squibs contained thick dust of a light color, apparently from crushed concrete and gypsum. But the problem is, these materials would not have been crushed until the pancaking floors above impacted the floor emitting the squib. Thus, the dust would not be produced until the air was already squeezed out, so there would be no source of the dust for the squib, besides explosives.

Up above is also a picture of the second plane hitting the South Tower, this was taken from frame by frame. In the picture the plane's nose has just begun to approach the building yet CLEARLY we can see towards the right,a synchronized row of explosives detonating BEFORE the plane even fully impacts the buildings. Debunkers have no logical explanation for this phenomenon, mainly because they refuse to consider explosives as a hypothesis. But as stated, you clearly see explosions occuring before the plane fully impacts, this photo alone gives great credibility to the fact that the planes were nothing more but diversionary blast for pre-positioned explosives to go off, making the real culprit appear as the planes. This is made even more credible when you consider the testimony of William Rodriguez a janitor who worked in the Trade Centers for 20 years, he states there was a large heavy duty explosion within the buildings basement seconds before the first plane actually impacted. He states this was a totally seperate event, occuring in close time proximity of the first plane's impact. Surely this adds stardlying revalations to the truth about 9/11 which has yet to be uncovered.

5.Pulverization and Pyroclastic Flow:The Towers' non-metallic components, such as their concrete floors, were pulverized into fine dust. The identifiable material within the rubble can be classified into just five categories:
1.pieces of steel from the towers' skeletons
2.pieces of aluminum cladding from the towers' exteriors
3.unrecognizable pieces of metal
4.pieces of paper
5.dust. There isnt concrete present ANYWHERE.


A worker at Ground Zero describes what was found in the rubble in the way of objects other than the Towers' steel.
"You have two 110 story office buildings. You don't find a desk. You don't find a chair. You don't find a telephone, a computer.
The biggest piece of a telephone I found was half of a keypad, and it was about this big: (makes a shape with his hand about 4 inches in diameter)
The building collapsed to dust."-Testimony from Naudet brothers Documentary 9/11/01

6.Global Collapse.The Towers were destroyed entirely, their steel skeletons were shredded into short pieces, most less than 30 feet long.
All of these features are seen in conventional controlled demolitions. None have ever been observed in steel-framed buildings collapsing for any reason other than controlled demolition.

I rest my case. Case Closed.

I don't care what the government says, I am quite certain this was no "terroristattack".

Now, I'm not saying I know about tall buildings, airplanes or demolitions cos I don't, but from the way the towers just collapsed, straight down, to me that = controlled demolition explosion. I've seen enough of them on TV to know what they look like.
I find it hard to believe that the impact of one airplane, no matter how well aimed it is, could cause the same effects.

Period.

If you're working on the basis that if no-one queries your accusation it must be true, here's my debunking:

People are in the habit of saying "explosion" when they actually mean "very loud noise".

If you think a building that has been hit by an airliner can't generate plenty of very loud noises, dream on.

What about gaslines? Im sure busting gas pipes can create some explosions.

Its quite obvious by your post above you have not perused the topic carefully, if you had, you would of realized that MANY people heard "EXPLOSIONS" before the airplane had even hit. How do you explain that? How does "MANY" people have the same habit of saying "explosion" rather than "very loud noise" on the day of 9/11.

DBD

Im not working on that basis Swan. Im working on the basis that a building cannot resemble all the characteristics of a controlled demolition and at the same time have a natural gravity driven collapse. It's impossible. I understand how people can say certain words to describe things, but when the physical aspects of a controlled demoltion match up with testimony eye witnesses are given, the match cannot help but be made. All the lights in the trade center are white, so even when breaking you wouldnt see flashes of orange and red lights going around the building like a belt, those are the colors exhibited when detonating explosives.

I dont know what to say to some people, do eye witnesses have to come out in the open and say "We heard explosives 100%", "We heard/saw sycronized explosions 100%"? People dont speak in that context. Point being, you would never see ANY characteristics of a controlled demolition in a natural gravity driven collapse.

In reguards to a controlled demolition, I pose anyone to answer these questions:

1.Hypothetically, if there were bombs of any sort within the World Trade Centers, what characteristics would they exhibit onto the buildings upon detonation?What would we see,hear, or feel?

2. Besides seeing bombs, what sort of eye-witness testimony would convince you that the Wtcs Eye Witnesses were witnessing a controlled demolition of the towers?

The testimony of the first responders is the closest your going to get to describing a controlled demoltion, besides the public countdown.

Yes my friend, but gas pipes cannot explode on an undamaged building(World Trade Center 7). And, bursting gas pipes would not create a synchronized rows of confluent explosions around the entire building, even on undamaged floors 30 floors beneath.


I know your in awe, but there is nothing beside explosives which could produce such an effect.

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Continued list of NYPD and Firefighters who reported explosions on 9/11.............
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Upper Level Explosions at WTC

(pa-police-reports01.pdf pages 17, 24)
Alan T. DeVona Page 2, Chronological Report of the WTC Radio Transmissions on 9/11/01

0853 WTC Desk replies there was an explosion on the upper floors.”
Page 9, Chronological Report
“0933 PO Keane reporting from Stairway-C on the 66th floor, 1 WTC states that she heard another explosion

WTC2
(pa-police-reports04.pdf pages 4&5) P.O. Middleton #1207 Memorandum Page 1

“I was approximately one block away from Tower One when Tower Two appeared to explode at the roof top and several floors below. Then fire balls and debris shot out of the windows and rocketed into the skies and fall below.”

Det. Thomas M. Inman
Memorandum Page 1 (pa-police-reports04.pdf page 6)

“As a roll call was being taken of the responding Detectives, Tower #2 began to collapse. This occurred after a secondary explosion on the west side of the tower that appeared to take place in the high 60’s. The area above the secondary explosion actually leaned to the west and then the collapse took place.”

WTC1

(pa-police-reports04.pdf pages 4&5) P.O. Middleton #1207 Memorandum Page 2

“As I continued to wave them back periodically you would hear a loud boom go off at the top of tower one. As the building continued to burn and emergency equipment kept on responding stirring up the dust and debris in the streets. After approximately 15 minutes suddenly there was another loud boom at the upper floors, then there was a series of smaller explosions which appeared to go completely around the building at the upper floors. And another loud earth- shattering blast with a large fire ball which blew out more debris and at that point everyone began to run north on West Broad Street.”

Detective Salvatore Piro (pa-police-reports04.pdf page 88)
Port Authority of NY & NJ Memorandum Page 1
“At that point, I heard a low sounding boom and the smoke intensified. There was more debris falling and as I heard a big roar, I saw Tower One coming down.”

(pa-transcript044.pdf page 18) WTC Ch 22 – SHO PD DESK–2131 Page 18

MALE A: There’s been … been numerous explosions on the … like 89th, 92nd floor."

General Reports of WTC Explosions by NY Police, not specific as to level

(pa-police-reports01.pdf page 61) P.O.Anthony C. Croce Handwritten Memorandum page 3
“We kept hearing explosions that would shake the whole room. People were saying, ‘There’s another one and another one.’ I heard reports of secondary bomb explosions, missiles being shot at towers and others.”

(pa-police-reports02.pdf pages 58 & 59) Detective Michael S Shuhala
The Port Authority of NY & NJ Memorandum Office of Inspector General Page 2
“Conditions were slow going on the stairwell due to the volume of people. You would move two or three steps at a time and stop. Every second or third floor would be filled with smoke that lasted one or two floors then the stairwell would become clear. It was most surprising that the fire alarms and strobe lights were not activated." (where the raging inferno?)

“When we reached the 15th floor, the building began to vibrate and shake. I heard loud explosions and rumblings in the background. The stairwell shifted and gave out a large metal on metal groan. The stairwell then twisted back into place with another loud groan. The lights went out. At that point the stairwell became filled with smoke and dust."

(pa-police-reports02.pdf pages 94 & 95)P.O. Sue Keane #826

Handwritten Memorandum Page 2
“At some point we could hear another plane then a hit. Then what sounded like explosions one after another or like a train coming fast. At this point the explosion was loud; the area went completely black.”
Page 3
“Massive amounts of debris, concrete dust and bodies or parts were more frequent at this point. Then there was an eerie silence and it was like you knew something was going to happen. There just seemed to be one explosion after another. I was separated from the guys from the bridge (GWB) by another explosion, massive again, sucking the air out of your lungs and then just a wind more intense this time with larger pieces of debris flying.”

*Will continue as the information is found........*

???

I must have missed that, and I've just re-read the OP and can't see it.

Personally, I can fit most of the "explosion" accounts in the OP into the timeline: that one was the initial plane impact, that was the final collapse, etc.

Well Swan, it's there in the testimony of Oral Histories; I would consider you to listen to the testimony of William Rodriguez, who was a maintance janitor in the Wtcs for 20 years. He claimed there was large heavy duty explosion in the lower levels of the building(the basement) which preceded the first initial impact. You see, it was reported that there initially was "3" large explosions. There wasnt suppose to be 3, but just 2, from each plane. So it was documented that there was a 3rd explosion in close proximity to the time of each plane hitting. See below.....


Yes, it is this 3rd explosion that William reported first hand, because once it occured he immediately started to try and resuce people when all of a sudden there was a second large explosion but this time from up above, which was the first plane impacting the building. Just consider the testimony, there is no reason for there to be a large explosion in the basement before the first plane hit, moreso can you explain why would that explosion coincide with the first initial impact. Well, like it is said, the planes were nothing more but diversionary blast for the explosives. Once the buildings collapsed in its entirety, including the core columns which should have been left standing, this global collapse which never has occured in history because of fire, was blammed on single jet airliners hitting 2 buildings, yet collapsing 3. They want you to believe in magic, straight out of a comic book.

And just for you Swan, I've found the actual video of William Rodriguez's testimony you can watch here, William Rodriguez's 9/11 testimony of explosions in basement and around the building

The guy who kept changing his story until he came up with one that got himself a lot of attention?

I've given my opinion in more detail on the Purdue simulation thread. Every structural engineer accepts it was a gravity driven collapse, and none of the people who claim otherwise can come up with any calculation of how quickly a building should fall.

A building on fire after being hit by an aircraft is going to be generating all sorts of loud noises, some genuine explosions as the fire finds a new source of combustibles, some simply things breaking or falling. Nothing in the OP conflicts with this.