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BLACKJACK
Hello,
first of all I'd like to ask all of You to post answers only if they're serious, so please don't post "go to psychiatry" or something.
I'm looking for someone who ever experienced effects of Chaos Magick - Retroactive Magick.
I know that there're some books like "Liber Kaos", but they're not printed in my country. I have never practiced magic and I don't know how to begin.
I made some seriious mistakes in my life and would like to change the past.
I believe in infitive amount of parallel universes and I believe that it's possible to switch my timeline to another, where (or when) I didn't make these mistakes.
I read about some spells or other ways to send the message to "myself from the past" or something like that.
I need a person who could make some rituals for me or advise me how to effectively do the retroactive magick.
Thank You all in advance.
libra II
QUOTE(BLACKJACK @ Jun 24 2007, 03:33 PM) *
Hello,
first of all I'd like to ask all of You to post answers only if they're serious, so please don't post "go to psychiatry" or something.
I'm looking for someone who ever experienced effects of Chaos Magick - Retroactive Magick.
I know that there're some books like "Liber Kaos", but they're not printed in my country. I have never practiced magic and I don't know how to begin.
I made some seriious mistakes in my life and would like to change the past.
I believe in infitive amount of parallel universes and I believe that it's possible to switch my timeline to another, where (or when) I didn't make these mistakes.
I read about some spells or other ways to send the message to "myself from the past" or something like that.
I need a person who could make some rituals for me or advise me how to effectively do the retroactive magick.
Thank You all in advance.



I don't know which country you come from, but there is a book called "The Key of Solomon" or something like that.
I've certainly given better advice to people than you, so perhaps you really should listen to Wateriad rather than me

Take care my friend
libra II
I forgot to tell you BJ, don't just take care, take very very veyy god care. Just one single little mistake and..........
Please listen to Wareriad instead of me.

Your friend
Libra II
RadicalGnostic
Although not a Chaos magician, I am a Hermetic magician. As such, I urge you to read both the Lesser and the Greater Keys of Solomon. I'm sure they're both available on the web. I found them to be excellent sources for anyone interested in magical practice.

If I can help further, please let me know. original.gif

Peace,

RadicalGnostic
libra II
"Magic" is not for people with unstable minds, BJ, and that is why there are very few people with stable minds who will learn someone with an unstable mind how to perform "magic". These books really do terrible things to people who either do not fully understand them or has an unstable mind. One typical symptom is constant agonizing fear. Once the symptoms get bad enough you will no longer need to GO and get psychiatry because you will be FORCED into psychiatry, and don't imagine it will take less than 1-2 years before you get away from what some people call the funny farm. Now, I suppose you could just be joking and if so, then alright, you certainly got me

Take care
shadow_flame
libra, just out of curiosity where did you get experience that these books do such things to people
libra II
Why?
shadow_flame
as i said, I'm curious.
btw, I would advise you bj, that you don't try it. just let your past rest in peace, you'll just feel better. and you don't need psychiatrist help, just some time in peace (or a wild party) will help you. happy.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(Wateriad @ Jun 28 2007, 03:59 PM) *
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LMAO.

Don't waste your time on magick. I was wish it was real and tangible. Its not.
shadow_flame
reality of magic... that would be a long debate...
but that chaos magic bj said, it's just to weird to be real. besides, who woud WANT to travel to past, through parallel dimensions? what if you end up somewhere where aliens conquered earth and we're all slaves. though i must admit, you could end up at reality where you are king of aall earth, and everyone strives to make you happy happy.gif .
Cadetak
"Chaos magic does not exist"-Doctor Strange, The Sorcerer Supreme.

The big man himself said it.
RadicalGnostic
QUOTE(libra II @ Jun 29 2007, 12:12 AM) *
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Already have, already takes meds, has helped more than hurt my magical practice. grin2.gif

Peace,

RadicalGnostic
RadicalGnostic
Magic isn't about changing reality. It's about changing the operator. Magic is the offshoot of meditation, imo. For the good of all, and harm none. Not even me.

Psychiatry is for mental illness; magic is religious expression, like prayer. Don't knock it until you've tried it.

Peace,

RadicalGnostic
Heru
Ive only read up on a few theories of chaos magic (A few get kinda wierd). But most of my experience is from chaos magicians.
Chaos magic is no different from other schools of magic. Just without the traditions, beliefs and dogma. From what ive seen though, alot of chaos magicians make working systems out of Anime series.



And who told you you can go back in time? While you may travel back in your memories, like it was the present and even alter said memories. You cant actualy use a ritual or spell to go back in time.

And yes magic is real, its just that Hollywood magic isnt real. Dont get into magic especting to wave a wand like Harry Potter or write a a few words like Charmed or stop Abraham Lincoln from being shot.

And Libra II is right about the possiblility of going crazy. It can and does happen.
erynys
when they say that chaos magick should only be attempted by the most experienced HIGH sorcerers, its because you are dealing with POWERFUL energies that require much control. stray energy has an unpredictable affect on the mind and the things around you. any stray energy used here would be harmful. after studying much and working with large amounts of energy, i have come to realize that the student cannot practice the same magick as the master. i am able to do magick without tools, and my spells work much faster than those of a garden witch or even a wiccan high priestess. with all this power, even i know i am not ready to handle these chaotic energies. please look for an alternative solution to your problems. dont use magick to run away from yourself. you must embrace who you are, what you have done, and what you will do in the future to fix it. and no, there are no parallel universes that you can travel to. dunno who told you that.
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