Throughout our lives we have all seen movies and heard of reports of people who are capable of moving objects with telekinesis or starting fires just by focusing on something. Well, personally I have witnessed several supposed abilities and am researching these gifts and am looking to everyone here for insight as to how others have investigated and studied these abilites. Granted I am in no way stating that they are without fault and unable to be disproven. So tell me what do you think. Need I remind this is a non-flamming forum, so please respect others ideas and only respond with integrity.

its hard to explain,
but i have practice, its been 5 months I control the atmosphere,hehe sometimes it goes well and sometimes not,
Ill post again next tym if I have tym

Well, this ability often refered to as atmo or stratokinesis is by all means difficult to learn and much more difficult is its scientific reasoning and explaination. When you access these abilities what do you do or how do you feel...?

First there is a serious big difference between what is on/in movies. Those are Sci-Fiction and well based on F I C T I O N.

I have heard of people that 'can start fires w/their mind'. Even a couple here locally where I live. Upon invsestigation it was found that - well, the claim was extremely over stated and/or they could only do it w/a match or lighter to start the fire. Then they use their mind w/their hands to control air flow to work the fire. This had nothing to do w/Psi or Pyschic powers - just using the understanding of science.

The big challenge is finding someone that is not passing of actual science, on purpose or not - as 'psi/psychic' abilities. Which is what is found going on.

Or it is met w/excuses of, "it's not there right now, I don't know why?" or "this only works when I'm alone...." and other lame excuses.

Removed a few silly posts from this thread, lets keep it sensible please.

this is possible to move things using mental powers, having to need a strong mind and powerful will. but these powers either came from heritage or that u did something that cause urself to obtain that ability. i really dont consider trying it, though it seems quite cool

There is also book control, education control, TV fakery an a lot of controls other than the mind's control over
the TV tuner.

That sort of science story just obliterates the minds control over its true destiny, to be free from propaganda of any kind.

Good replies, I believe this is going to get interesting. No as to what one of you stated about the fictional movies and such, yes I agree that they do blow abilities out of proportion, but why isn't it possible to do such things. No im not saying being able to mentally move an entire bridge like a mutant from X-men, or strike down enemies with lightning bolts. But why can't it be possible for someone to shift the direction of weather currents, or to be able manipulate fire. These abilities, though not large and glorious can be researched and learned. Some say that there are just certian people with these abilities, well I personally believe that everyone has the capability to do these things, but only those who are willing to truely open their mind and focus, train and concentrate will be sucsessful in their goals. Some state that a life endangering event sometimes causes paranormal abilities in a person, for me I believe this to be true. Several years ago I had a construction nail lodged into my skull. Granted my memory isn't a strong as it used to be, but my metaphysical and abnormal senses have heightened. I can tell when something bad is going to happen and I can even feel emotions of those around me. Now i'm not saying that these are 100% correct claims, but this is just what I have experienced through non-demanding mental control. Now I have experienced much more aggresive and physical abilities, but i'll save that for another post.

strong will, perception, focus, and meditation. i have a strong will and altered perception of matter which is responsible for the electronic malfunctions near me. i have a lot of that. and sometimes i can influence it. its mostly small scale stuff. and some of the tests dont work simply because of how the ability works. i cant yet move the psiwheel, yet ive accidentally moved other things and such. you'd really have to be near me to see all the stuff that goes on. and i dont know when its gonna happen because i cant control it yet, so i cant tape it for you. btu when i do learn to control it, i will make a video for u skeptics maybe if we all took a "lets find out more and more and test the limits of our knowledge" attitude, instead of a "lets base everything on what we know now" attitude, we might learn more than we thought.

I somewhat agree with erynys on the whol attitude statement. Most people who have a closed skeptical mind dont try to understand this because it goes against everything they have been taught to believe in their lives. Granted there are a few that try to reach out and truely understand whats going on and to those i say thank you. But for those who just constantly ask for videos and pictures of the abilities, maybe you should try these things for yourself, most have the "must see it to believe it" personality, well then try to see it, for yourself. And no i dont mean go home, sit there for a few minutes and let nothing happen and sasy that you tried, go several weeks focusing and channeling your energies and try to do somkething with it. if it its just creating a pulse of energy that emite from your hands. Just try it and then make an assumption as to whether its real. Now having typed that i realize that some of you are going to state that you already have tried to do these things, but i guarentee you didnt actually try. These abilities dont just happen over a few minutes. It takes years of practice for some to just move a piece of paper.

I'm a skeptic and I do not have a closed mind.

The problem is with most skeptics, including myself is: We are met w/extreme claims and then when the most obvious statement the book, that should be totally expected is asked, "Can you prove it?" is met w/shock, surprise, insults and so on. But not w/the evidence that is simply asked for - that NEVER is given.

This is the problem. I have a friend that has proven this claims. He meets it head on w/Accountablity, Crebilblity and Validity. So I have honestly come to see this as a natural expectation. The people making these claims -
are they Accountable? -- more than not - NO.
Are they Credible? -- more than not - NO.
Do they show Integrity? -- More then not - NO.
Will they step up and validate their claims? - NO.

So the question is - why is the skeptic the 'bad guy', the 'closed minded one' and so on?

I for one expect this silly idea - you say you can do ......., then please show me, us..... Then the claimer goes: but they do NOT step up and validate their claim. They just throw out insults.... Why is that?

Maybe, but I find it easier to do with hands and tools. There must be a reason we have physical bodies.

Jjbreen, I have never stated that the skeptic is a bad guy, as a matter of fact I praise the common skeptic, for if skeptics weren't around we wouldn't even know that there is a possibility of these powers. All I am trying to state that for some that don't have control, and some that don't even wish to have their abilites, proof can't be so simple. As I stated earlier, these abilities, well those of true paranormal origins take time to completely control. And even those with telpathy, empathy, precognition, how are hey to prove thateir abilities, these are passive non-physical abilities. How are they to prove theri abilities while on the internet. Now, given that, I must state that those who wish to be taken seriously about their abilities should ofer up proof of them. Like my own, I have show several people who ahd no such connection to the paranormal world what I can do. Granted I am no master and so my powers aren't god-like but still without doubt they are real.

And so obviously the quesiton begs asking: What is it that you can do?

Well, if you must know...the abilities that I ahve experienced and was able to show to others are as follows:

Minor telepathy
Empathy
Precognition
Aerokinesis
Atmokinesis
Psi-Vampirism
Astral Projection
And am able to manipulate energy with extreme focus...Kepp in mind these are abilities that I have been able to show others...

I'd be interested in seeing you perform these feats... while I don't believe that it's probable if you can upload a video I would view it with an open mind to the possibility (however small)

Well honestly it would be a very short video, especially considering that only two of those can be physically shown. As i said before, most of my abilities are mentally passive, they dont affect the outside world. So all I could possibly show would be aero and atmokinesis...So tell me what would you consider valid proof of aerokinesis...?

Aerokinesis - the controlling of air. Hmm - this would be a tough one. Because it would be easy to create wind flow on the sides w/out us seeing the 'source'.

So tell us first a bit how this works for you - what have you done with this. Most importantly were your hands always at your side, so there was no way your hands were controling air flow - like baffles would?

The first idea for this would be: (Everyone feel free to add comments or suggestions. This is going to be a tough one to validate just on 'trust alone'. So feel free to build onto this one.)

A clear plastic and/or glass table top.
Thin strips of toilet paper laying loose on the table top.
A Pin Wheel - NOT a "psi wheel" but an actual pin wheel stuck to the table.
Then you a good number of feet away - as well as the table clearly seen NOT next to windows, vents and other sources of air flow.
Your hands CLEARLY seen at your sides palms opened flat against the sides of your legs/hip.
Then tell us when you are going to create the 'air flow' -
The volume must be on at all times and no 'stop' - 'pause' during the total demo.
It would help if you could give us the City - State you live in so I could contact a local science teacher from a Jr. High, High School or Community College - to witness this, so as to avoid any chance of 'behind the scene' trickery' - Sorry but we've had this done to us, being told it was 'real' only later to be told - "it was a social experiment to trick us and lie to us during the 'set up' of the trick.

can i ask what exercise do you do before doing the skill...
hehe

http://www.psiarcade.com/healing/

wellf irst off, no i wont allow you to contact any of my school educators, not for the sake of proof, but so as to keep my abilities restricted to those whom I can trust, if someone at my highschool were to find that i ahve these abilities, the my luife wouldnt be the same. Now i will try to make a video for you...it may be a while seeing that my family and I are moving in the next few days but thre shall be a video hopefully, and i guess that you'll just have to trust me...im not the kind of person to make something like this up. My video will be valid and no tricks will be used. Im sorry that all the things you requested arent going to be used but i guess you just have to deal with it. So as to keep from suspicion as to whether the video was paused and then played i will wear tassels. If they are in one place and then mysteriously in another, you may call me a fraud, liar. whatever you will. No as for my abilities...I can somewhat latch onto other air currents and alter them. So there must be wind for me to use my powers, i can manipulate not create, im not that far advanced. And as for my training excersises, i just meditate and focus...thats really about it...so yeah...