FORGET SKYSCRAPERS A SECOND, 911 PROMOTING IS A SCAM TO KEEP US IN CIRCLES IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY FIGURE THAT OUT.

How many billion men women and children, white brown and yellow hard working tax paying people are they attempting to exterminate really. Is that a better subject to ponder on than 911 or has humanity given up and I just don't realize it. Sure you want justice, sure you are angered inside, sure you need to spread the news to everyone you know. If you don't. Kiss your mother goodbye in a few years, or is it sooner than we think?

I want action...now!!!

I want congress pulled out..all of them, I want Parliaments and royals and the judges imprisoned..The evidence is online for us. I want justice, I want it now..I want justice..please anybody out there, is anybody listening?

Sure you are...then do something...if you want help. pm me...no loosers and certainly no forum agents..thank you..



Look for chem trails or any of the many many ideas most here prefer not to talk about...Forget 911 already...

educate-yourself.org/nwo/

So you want the immediate destruction of all government?
This seems like a Bad Idea to me.

--Jaylemurph

Are you sure of that...........

i thought guy fawkes was dead

Let me tell you a big secret, those leading the NWO are dying. This is a true fact. I hope it helps motivate your courage over those who would turn your head away. Eventually, everybody will know of their plans, and then people will get angry. Don't get angry, get even.

they are going to suppress all of the life-extension technology. If you get a serious disease, forget about receiving any of the latest miracle cures unless you
are part of the inner circle. They are more interested in your organ donor card than in extending your life. These people are loyal to none.

Anarchy for the U.K. it's coming some time, it might be, give a wrong time stop a traffic light, your future dream is a shopping spree! Cos', I wanna be - anarchy!
Johnny Rotton, Sex Pistols

Heh-heh-heh!!! Yeah, he is but, he wrote that post with his cold, yet crispy, dead hand!

I cant understand what your trying to say, it's a mess.
Try again.

Yes. No police? No hospitals? No public transportation? Soon leads to no electricity, no water, no fresh food...

--Jaylemurph

The abolition of all government means an abolition of all government services and will plunge your country into nothing more than a massive riot as people go about performing all the evil deeds they could not do murder, rape, theft so on the loss of government is the loss of stability

Many of us would liek to see government change for the better but, I really can't think of many who truly want anarchy. Well, except for Johnny Rotten, maybe.

Agreed ...We got to have law and order...for a fresh refresher look back at katrine when they had no law and order it was a Mess...We need our government for our safety might not be the smartest in leadership but we as a country really cant complain.It would be to hard almost impossible to try to protect my family my home etc without law and order...I say Keep it!!!

it's not the system. it's the people (politicians and sorts) who are misusing the system. they feed us sh**s and unluckily, most of the people actually swallow them stories spooned by them corrupted spinners.

Their only ammo is, "do it or treason" weak isn't it?

That's what I was thinking.

I'm all for Law and Order.....but not Martial Law and Order which appears to be not far off...


Pentagon Lays Plans for Martial Law




"Our way of life has forever changed," wrote Sen. John Warner, R-Va., in a letter last month to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. "Should this law now be changed to enable our active-duty military to more fully join other domestic assets in this war against terrorism?"




So let's get this right, "terrorists" attack us because they "hate our freedoms" and the answer is to get rid of our freedoms?

Martial Law: Police State America - We're So Close Now

One of the members posted a link in the UFO thread somewhere, and man these robots looked awesome.
Can't locate the link as yet, but it was posted recently, it's well worth a look trust me...




Martial Law: Police State America

Future technology under development includes robot police that have the ability to run. Its like we are living in the Twilight Zone or in a futuristic dystopian film. Yet when you mention these kind of things to people they either don't believe you or simply laugh at you. Well here's a wake up call, IT'S THE YEAR 2005, not 1955, and these things are real.

Edit: Borrowed it off SolderSpy in the Lazar thread...I friggin robot

What are you talking about, there is no lucidity in what you are saying? Is there a serious theme behind this or are you just "tired"?

It would be anarchy and death. It will never happen nor would I want it too. I have children and would like them to live.



By the way, I work for the NWO. We are hiring if you need a job.

I hear they pay well too Eric with excellent tax breaks & top health benefits...put in a good word for me eh, i don't mind plenty of overtime either. lol!

KK!

Hey ive been ready to do something for a while ... not imprison the royals and judges, though ime all for the idea that might take a while. Ime angry to at what the NWO are up too all the whilst treating us like morons which, from the way some people act might not be too far from the truth. All this upcoming disaster can be averted or minimized as prophets like nostradamus said, so ive read all I can read and now am ready to do something.

Only problem is theres a lot of groups and a lot of people out their with good intentions not getting very far because they are fighting diversery battles which are their to distract them from the real problems. This might be a crap analogy but its sort of like pruning the tree rather than getting it by the roots and removing the thing.

So yeah getting to the point I would love to be invloved in something which cuts through the smokescreen and gets to the problem...peacefully of course... and if anyone feels the same way then thats a start, we should start something.

So, uhh, just who are these NWO people, specifically? What do they want, exactly?
If they really are in power how and when did they get there?

--Jaylemurph

I'm not a big fan water purification, waste treatment/disposal and oh yeah, roads. Lets get rid of all those too.

Basically run down, err real basically(It's the only way i know)

Q1: So, uhh, just who are these NWO people, specifically?

A: Global Elite/Richest families in the world...33 i believe and all their off shoots.



Q2: What do they want, exactly?

A:Eventual 'total control' of all global matters(economically etc)and the masses.



Q:If they really are in power how and when did they get there?

A: It's a long story....... The New World Order, an Overview




Sorry Jaylemurph, still hav'nt worked out how to cut and quote.
If you know i would appreciate it...in layman terms if you could, i'm technologically still in the stone age.

'tis not the government you should fear..........

........'tis Leviathan..............

Yup, I've been feeling tired lately.
'Course it could be due to having just finished digging a thousand feet (actually more) of sprinkler system trenches (by hand, no trench machines).
Or it could be due to daily workouts.
Or it could be caused by age, at least a little.
But I don't think anyone's putting anything in my water, since it's reverse osmosis filtered.
And I don't eat cow, and the lamb is grown by a friend who field-feeds his sheep.
The air I breathe is polluted, some, but since I live a fair distance from a population center, I don't think that's a factor.
All those chemtrails people been talking about, here in northern Washington, there don't seem to be very many. Maybe that's because we just aren't that important, since mostly those things are seen in the southern latitudes. But what with all the deserts down there, maybe there's a need to control all those desert animals and bugs.
So I guess it must be the first couple reasons, ya think? But I do get tired of politicians.

I like it, Rabid. Honesty, and logic. Makes perfect sense to me!





Most lamb is range fed...a good choice I should think!



Isn't all of...to some degree???
I don't think it's a factor either.



Absolutely...chemtrails are in the Southern latitudes!

Thank God!




THAT'S GOT TO BE IT. I AGREE COMPLETELY.
THAT HAS TO BE WHAT'S MAKING MOST OF US TIRED LATELY!!!!!


I believe you have solved this tread!

Again, /specifically/ who are these people -- not just family names, but whole, exact names.




Why?
You say control, but control is always just a means to an end. What end to they get by wielding such power?


Q:If they really are in power how and when did they get there?



I'll take a bit to read this and get back to you.

To cut and quote -- use your cursor to high light the portions of text you want to use (Click on the left mouse button and keep it pressed down, and then roll over the text you want to cut. When it's highlighted -- in a different colour -- press the right mouse button and a menu will pop up. Select 'copy'.
Then take your cursor to wherever you want to put the text. Press the right mouse button again to bring up the menu and select Paste.)

--Jaylemurph

Well damn it all, anyway, Mid. You just don't want me to have ANY fun, do you?

Hell, you could still have had some fun!

I just noticed that I mispelled the word "thread". I wrote, "tread".

You coulda had alot a fun with that, no?????




p.s....I love lamb. Great, grain fead stuff, isn't it?!?!?!

33, eh.

Know what?
I think this is the number that is printed on the Rolling Rock beer bottle. It's actually a wierd story involving someone writing the slogan for the beer...which was originally printed on the bottles, and at the end of their copy they wrote the number "33"...which indicated the number of words in the slogan. The printer left the #33 on there, and printed it in error. It stuck.

Rolling Rock from glass lined tanks in the Laurel Highlands. We tender this premium beer for you enjoyment as a tribute to your good taste. It comes from the mountain springs to you.

I think that believers in this NWO drink lots of this stuff, perhaps way too much...which is why the 33 comes into play (people spend lots of time staring at beer bottle labels when they've had too much...especially those painted Rolling Rock bottles)!

I suppose, but treads are not important, unless you're talking about off road tires.
And yes, lamb is pretty good. Grain fead stuff usually is.

Seriously, Mid, there are some questions I have about some of the things that have happened through the years, wherein it does appear that some sort of conspiracy existed. I think if you cast back in time, you can find a teleology of economic occurrances that make sense only when either super powerful or super rich people were involved, for instance. As to a nwo, I won't even put that in caps. As with the JFK assassination, I only wish I knew.

Thanks jaylemurph.

I hope it works ...

AHHHHH FRIGATE!


Q: Again, /specifically/ who are these people -- not just family names, but whole, exact names.

When you say 'exact names' i not sure i follow, but anyway...
A: These are supposedly the Elite of Elites/The 13 Bloodline families names and whatever/whoever their offspring/offshoots are.


Q: You say control, but control is always just a end.
A: Exactly...keeping us all in line and in check i guess.(robotic human sheeple) baah baah...


Q:If they really are in power how and when did they get there?
I'll take a bit to read this and get back to you.

A:By universal language....$$$, followed by deception/manipulation/fear etc...


I've only been looking into it for a couple of yrs on & off, but going by a lot of your posts(Ancient Mysteries & Alternative History/Extraterrestrial Life & The UFO Phenomenon)you look/sound like a pretty clued in bloke. I think...no scrap that, i know you'll come up with the answers faster and better than i probably will.


Thanks for the help on the cut/quote jaylemurph, i'll get it sooner or later...err more than likely later, a lot later...


Later champ

EVEN THE ORIGINAL MASONS WERE PURISTS BEFORE THE LEVIATHAN SNEEKED IN EONS AGO. Now people do not even know how much of their world is Satanic, or Nazi controlled.

The concept of telling us everything through symbols has a purpose, it is always the masses who hold the majority control of the Earth. ALWAYS..



True, true, planned an in the bag unless there is more than 33% on earth who want answers. Hence the stain at keeping us all confused with misinformation, and emotionally erratic debunkers



No, Leviathan are in fear of a greater power. Full circle to everthing in this universe including the original controllers, not the slippery lizzies.



What I want to find out is if HUMANITY CAN RULE THEMSELVES without corrupt leaders.

ROYALS ARE CORRUPT.

POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT

LAWS AND GOVERNMENTS THE SAME

ECONOMONIES ARE BEING HELD UP BY STRANDS SINCE THE 1980'S BECAUSE THEY ARE CORRUPT.

In fact, all corruption is due to surface in our institutions at a more alarming rate beginning in the next few months.

There are waves of global changes that can be mapped, or manipulated. go back 7-14 days and see how positive the news headlines were in comparison to all this year before hand...This only happens to be a very powerful time period for humanity in potential, yet they, our leaders usually place a nasty global incident whenever humanity globally rise above or depression of life created by them.

Every time there is a period of global well being occurs, like right now, something happens to pull us back into fear...guess who organizes this fear? /those who we allow to lead us because we do not have courage to lead ourselves...well I do, and I fight em every day. You had better too. Or begin to accept what you are really living in.

Democracy was adopted from the Egyptians, who did exist in relative peace for over 20,000 years. Exactly as those in India, until the Persians were allowed to over run those lands. But before that, people did not exist in corrupted societies as much as today

TRUE DEMOCRACY IS POSSIBLE. NOT THE CORRUPTED VERSION WE ALL believe and accept with gritted teeth.

DEMAND BETTER. DO NOT JUST ACCEPT THEM BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. Know corruption you will in the coming years, as they are exposed, the anger will set off riots. This they have prepared for with prison camps designed...Why is the question that unlocks everything...why is exposing government and religious corruption rising? It's not Alex Jones, or 911...

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE SHADOWS TO CORRUPT WHAT BEGINS AS PURE...EVEN THE MASONS WERE PURE BEFORE THE LEVIATHAN SNEEKED IN EONS AGO.

How do you live a normal life believing this stuff? I wouldn't leave the house if I believed like this.

I agree with your sense of urgency.

I support your spirit to effect change.

We must be careful how we think about and attempt this though - we don't want to repeat the same mistakes these governments are making and wind up in the same mess again.

Keep believing, sister!!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that since 1945, /none/ of the world* has been controlled by the Nazis. And I defy you to legitimately prove otherwise.

--Jaylemurph

*Okay -- I'll concede three villages in Argentina.

I cannot but agree with you Rabid...

I have often said that conspiracies have happened, and do exist, and they likely always will.

The JFK assassination is one of those things which has bothered me for 40+ years. Far too much real conflicting information to accept the status quo there. I don't think anyone of reasonable mind who looks at the situation objectively can be satisfied with officialdom.

I only wish I knew too...

M~

These things are happening, maybe not exactly how people say they are because theres so much secrecy and disinformation around that its next to impossible to accurately piece together all pieces of this global conspiracy.

So how do we stand against this?

Well i have an idea about it all, it's just a crazy theory mind ya...The masses(global)go on a 7 day strike...

That will bring governments and corporate powers to their knees


Edit: ''Corrupt Governments and Corporate powers.''

What things?

Yep, 'things' are happening. And will continue to happen, so long as the general population remains stupid to those things. When more people care about their 'ride', or their 'rap', or whatever, than about the societal and political situation they are in, then we are doomed to remain where 'things' happen. When the public is so stupid as to pass conflicting laws or propositions, as happened numerous times when I lived in CA, then we are doomed to live in a stupid country and the 'conspirators', if that is what they be, will continue as in the past.
One of the few times the public was even slightly victorious was during the Nam war, when a large segment of the public made their demands; politics and economics were forced to listen, and even then they went slowly.
It IS possible to control the jerks, you know. It just takes a lot of people; even the super rich and super powerful can't stand against the populace if enough people make it known what they want.
I don't want a revolution, folks; I just want to fire the whole bunch and make the new ones do things right.

So, you don't know enough about it to have a coherent view of it, but you still know it exists and you know you want to fight it?

--Jaylemurph

I think...probably not...human nature being what it is. The toughness and ambition needed to

be 'a leader' means that only a certain kind of personality can get right to the top. Not to say

that these personalities are necessarily bad or corrupt....but the complications of the job and

the maintaining of power (for what-ever reason)...must involve endless 'ducking and diving' and

ruthless mental strength. Then no matter how 'good' the leader...it only takes a bullet or bomb

to get rid of them....ie Ghandi.

Human beings seem to need law and order to keep them (us) half civilised!




What we have is representative democracy...because most people can't be bothered to get

involved....and want others to organise things for them...this isn't bad...it's just human nature

and the way we're brought up. TRUE DEMOCRACY would be everyone being highly educated

on social, economic and political matters...and it being the duty of EVERYONE to involve

themselves in decision making....this is an honourable ideal...but an organisational nightmare.




Now here's the rub.....anyone DEMANDING better must be prepared to get in there and DO

SOMETHING. It's not good enough to demand that OTHER people DO things...for you...

you must do it yourself if you feel so strongly.

Politicians aren't a breed of people separate from the rest of us....they are part of us all.

Although some of them slide into political life through family or wealth...I would guess that

the majority get into politics for honourable reasons.

It's tough at the top...I suspect...very tough...even with all the perks!

I'm not saying corruption, greed and downright evil does not run like a vein of poison

through politics....but I don't think there are any easy solutions...

Just a few thoughts of mine on the matter........

governments do good stuff and bad, if only they didnt do the whole bad stuff, ripping us off of our money, making a sh**ty justice system and just cause they hate another country they gotta drag us into war with em

If there really was a plan to create a new world order, it would never succeed. Who here wants us to be mind controlled, to lose all our freedoms? No one. Therefore, we would fight back. Everyone would. There is no way this plan could succeed. And EVEN IF it did succeed, either we would all be happy with our lives and there would be no problem, or, we would all hate it and either rebel, kill ourselves, or create global chaos....which would ultimately bring the end of the NWO

No what I am saying is we know enough to see that this corruption at the highest levels of power is going on, we may not know how every detail is being conducted. Sort of like a murder scene, you know someones been murdered and you have the suspects but you need to figure out exactly how it happened and why, so maybe if all the people demanded full disclosure this picture may become complete.



I believe that too, the plan is doomed to failure, as soon as people realize that their freedoms have been taken away there would be an uprising. The only way to stop that uprising would be some form of mind supression/control on the population but I don't think it will ever get to that. In the end I believe everything will work out fine but its what happens before that which concerns me, how far people are willing to let this thing go and how many war conflicts are we willing to accept them put us into before its too late and we have ww3?

If you can't see it, how can you see it going on?
I've been trying to get a grip on the 'NWO' for a long time, but no-one's ever give me more than vague suspicions or smoke and mirrors.


--Jaylemurph

You can see how its going on through its effects. For example 9/11 is a classic example, you can punch holes through the pruposed story or sometimes you do get a glimpse of the weird occultic behaviour like that seen in bohemian grove.

Yes, but doesn't it border on neurosis when you ascribe meanings to things you can't fully observe? Doesn't it just become self-fulfilling wishful thinking?

--Jaylemurph