Adama
Jun 27 2007, 01:36 PM
hey peoples,
This will be my second of a What If weekly series. My last one was, "What if Alexander the Great didnt die so early?
Ok now What If:
Thousands if not hundreds and thousands of people from all over the globe had enough of governement coverups and demanded for answers from Area 51. What if they crossed the tresspassing line and pushed back the Area 51 patrolls right to the Area 51 base, if they would even get that far. What if they warned us to leave and the people kept their foot down and stayed. Would they release fire and shoot everyone or just use tear gas or do so when out of control riots take place. Do you think if that actually happened we would get any answers?
Plz leave your comments and what you think would happen.
Thx
keep an eye out for more What If: Topics.
Adama
Jun 27 2007, 01:38 PM
hey peoples,
This will be my second of a What If weekly series. My last one was, "What if Alexander the Great didnt die so early?
Ok now What If:
Thousands if not hundreds and thousands of people from all over the globe had enough of governement coverups and demanded for answers from Area 51. What if they crossed the tresspassing line and pushed back the Area 51 patrolls right to the Area 51 base, if they would even get that far. What if they warned us to leave and the people kept their foot down and stayed. Would they release fire and shoot everyone or just use tear gas or do so when out of control riots take place. Do you think if that actually happened we would get any answers?
Plz leave your comments and what you think would happen.
Thx
keep an eye out for more What If: Topics.
DakaSha
Jun 27 2007, 01:39 PM
they defintely wouldnt just be allowed in... they would teargas them ect and if needed they WOULD shoot. that famous sign that says trespassers will be shot isnt there for nothing
furioustiger
Jun 27 2007, 01:43 PM
I agree you would be shot.
Adama
Jun 27 2007, 01:46 PM
But then everyone from all over the world will take aware more seriously Area 51 and then the whole world will wanna know answers. No?
Mr.Dot
Jun 27 2007, 01:58 PM
They would probably just close everything down and use teargas. And then put so many as they can in to jail. They would not get any answers. They would all just look like really stupid.
I doubt they would open fire against a bunch of civilians, even if the sign says so. They would not want to make a bloodbath out of it. It would only cause more problems for the government in the future.
It would be a awesome show tho if they videotaped it and put it on YouTube

And it would bring attention to the government if so many people would gather. So the government would be prepared for the worse. And that should make the civilians to think twice before entering. It is possible that there could be some kind of negotiation before it gets ugly.
ninjadude
Jun 27 2007, 02:11 PM
They would be shot on sight. No questions asked. There are signs that give this warning quite plainly.
DakaSha
Jun 27 2007, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(. @ Jun 27 2007, 03:58 PM)

They would probably just close everything down and use teargas. And then put so many as they can in to jail. They would not get any answers. They would all just look like really stupid.
I doubt they would open fire against a bunch of civilians, even if the sign says so. They would not want to make a bloodbath out of it. It would only cause more problems for the government in the future.
It would be a awesome show tho if they videotaped it and put it on YouTube

yes i agree. im saying they would open fire if needed. most likly it wouldnt. but they will kill you before letting you in.
and it doesnt have anything to do with ufo's btw.
Feanor
Jun 27 2007, 02:34 PM
QUOTE(Adama @ Jun 27 2007, 10:46 AM)

But then everyone from all over the world will take aware more seriously Area 51 and then the whole world will wanna know answers. No?
Probably, but this wouldn't mean they will give answers either way...
And… why the hell did you make 3 threads about this?
BishopRyan
Jun 27 2007, 02:40 PM
I thought you already had the answers and were keeping them from us?
Pax Unum
Jun 27 2007, 02:43 PM
QUOTE(Adama @ Jun 27 2007, 08:46 AM)

But then everyone from all over the world will take aware more seriously Area 51 and then the whole world will wanna know answers. No?
Everyone already knows about area 51, the only secret is what exactly goes on there... how long do you think it would take for authorities to notice thousands of people converging on the base? You’d never get close enough to find out anything useful before forces were deployed to stop you, if the tear gas didn’t stop you, the bullets would... IMO
keithisco
Jun 27 2007, 02:50 PM
QUOTE(BishopRyan @ Jun 27 2007, 04:40 PM)

I thought you already had the answers and were keeping them from us?
I thought he told us he never read books because they were all lies?? How did he find out about Area 51?
wolfknight
Jun 27 2007, 02:52 PM
You would be shot,gased, and jailed. There is nothing there. It is a test site for black projects.
Irish
Jun 27 2007, 02:53 PM
QUOTE(Feanor @ Jun 27 2007, 07:34 AM)

And… why the hell did you make 3 threads about this?
Three topics now merged into one. Please only one thread per subject
Mr.Dot
Jun 27 2007, 02:59 PM
Maybe this would be a good opportunity for the government to show them one of their top secret non lethal weapons
Lilly
Jun 27 2007, 03:10 PM
Somehow I think that the military wouldn't bother with anything fancy. It would simply go down: gassed, shot, arrested, end of uprising.
Raptor
Jun 27 2007, 03:11 PM
The same thing that happens in any other riot; police would use tear gas and fire rubber bullets until the situation is under control. If the crowd was armed I don't doubt the military would shoot to kill.
Anyway, it's a military base. Nothing related to aliens is going on there. Even if extraterrestrials came to Earth (that's a huge 'if') and the government is concealing the information (another big 'if'), they would have to be ridiculously stupid to keep their whole project going on in one of the most widely publicized military bases in the entire world.
If anything is going on, it's certainly not going to be happening there.
XSAS
Jun 27 2007, 03:27 PM
Area 51 was never supposed to be a permanent base. It was built in 1950's for the U-2 spy plane. When that work was finished, other so-called black projects were sent there, and today it is a multi-billion dollar facility that essentially cannot be duplicated.
The people who've worked there over the years are justifiably proud about their work in protecting our national security. But they've never been able to talk about it, not to their spouses, not even to each other. Now, the people who were there, and the secrets they kept for so long, are breaking their silence.
Buses with blacked-out windows, cameras that scan for any movement, sensors buried in the dirt, armed choppers that patrol the skies are all ominous signs that warn of deadly force. The secrecy that's long been the trademark of Area 51 is as pronounced today as it's ever been.
Whatever is going on inside, no one is going to talk about it. For decades, the government would not admit the existence of Area 51. Its code name disappeared from maps. Employees could not tell their own spouses where they worked, this is not cloak and dagger or a conspiracy this is standard practice with many Military institutes and Special Projects.
If a group of individuals were stupid enough to disregard warning signs to seek answers then they should be shot and treat as spies.. having said that they would not even breach the outer security never mind Area 51's inner security before they were removed.
supervike
Jun 27 2007, 04:00 PM
I'd actually be more worried if my Government DID NOT have secret bases with no access for civilians.
Military secrets have to remain that way to give the edge in combat. Just because we claim 'the right to know' doesn't make it so.
lostboyyanke
Jun 27 2007, 04:01 PM
QUOTE(Adama @ Jun 27 2007, 09:36 AM)

hey peoples,
This will be my second of a What If weekly series. My last one was, "What if Alexander the Great didnt die so early?
Ok now What If:
Thousands if not hundreds and thousands of people from all over the globe had enough of governement coverups and demanded for answers from Area 51. What if they crossed the tresspassing line and pushed back the Area 51 patrolls right to the Area 51 base, if they would even get that far. What if they warned us to leave and the people kept their foot down and stayed. Would they release fire and shoot everyone or just use tear gas or do so when out of control riots take place. Do you think if that actually happened we would get any answers?
Plz leave your comments and what you think would happen.
Thx
they would all be killed
Jjbreen
Jun 27 2007, 04:21 PM
QUOTE(Adama @ Jun 27 2007, 06:36 AM)

hey peoples,
This will be my second of a What If weekly series. My last one was, "What if Alexander the Great didnt die so early?
Ok now What If:
Thousands if not hundreds and thousands of people from all over the globe had enough of governement coverups and demanded for answers from Area 51. What if they crossed the tresspassing line and pushed back the Area 51 patrolls right to the Area 51 base, if they would even get that far. What if they warned us to leave and the people kept their foot down and stayed. Would they release fire and shoot everyone or just use tear gas or do so when out of control riots take place. Do you think if that actually happened we would get any answers?
Plz leave your comments and what you think would happen.
Thx
keep an eye out for more What If: Topics.
A. Make sure various media groups are there w/live feed.
B. You could not just walk to "A-51" buildings. That would be NO small walk. Doubt it could be realistically done, it is simply
NOT walking distance from any place under 40+ miles.
C. If this was peaceful 'march' - there would be no gun fire, tear gas maybe and some arrests would more than likely happen.
D. It would be best to have some serious political figures in the peaceful march. Prior Presidents current and pass Congress reps and Senate reps.
I would also suggest that you have your questions well phrased - you might want to talk to a lawyer about what it is you want to ask and the best way to ask it so there is no 'out'. Phrase of the questions would be paramont. It will make or break the 'deal', trust me on this one.
Would it work? I doubt it - because you'd never get close enough to the buildings because of the length of the walk. You'd only make it to the starting line and no further.
keithisco
Jun 27 2007, 04:32 PM
QUOTE(Adama @ Jun 27 2007, 03:36 PM)

hey peoples,
This will be my second of a What If weekly series. My last one was, "What if Alexander the Great didnt die so early?
Ok now What If:
Thousands if not hundreds and thousands of people from all over the globe had enough of governement coverups and demanded for answers from Area 51. What if they crossed the tresspassing line and pushed back the Area 51 patrolls right to the Area 51 base, if they would even get that far. What if they warned us to leave and the people kept their foot down and stayed. Would they release fire and shoot everyone or just use tear gas or do so when out of control riots take place. Do you think if that actually happened we would get any answers?
Plz leave your comments and what you think would happen.
Thx
keep an eye out for more What If: Topics.
In your Topic Header you said "and demanded 4 answers'" What are the four questions?
1. Is there a bathroom here.?
2. Is there a McDonalds here?
3. Why is it so hot here?
4. Canyou show me the way to the Lunatic asylum?
Come on Forumeers... any better questions?
Hi-TeK
Jun 27 2007, 04:56 PM
They would be shot, especially if your saying people from all over the globe, there could be spy's from many countries joining the riot to find out.
They would mow us down like a lawn mower does to grass.
spikeman25
Jun 27 2007, 07:39 PM
QUOTE(Adama @ Jun 27 2007, 01:36 PM)

hey peoples,
This will be my second of a What If weekly series. My last one was, "What if Alexander the Great didnt die so early?
Ok now What If:
Thousands if not hundreds and thousands of people from all over the globe had enough of governement coverups and demanded for answers from Area 51. What if they crossed the tresspassing line and pushed back the Area 51 patrolls right to the Area 51 base, if they would even get that far. What if they warned us to leave and the people kept their foot down and stayed. Would they release fire and shoot everyone or just use tear gas or do so when out of control riots take place. Do you think if that actually happened we would get any answers?
Plz leave your comments and what you think would happen.
Thx
keep an eye out for more What If: Topics.
Well that wouldn't happen because you can only go so far without getting shot.
Gmac1000
Jun 27 2007, 08:30 PM
do we bring a packed lunch..or is somthing..like ...provided?
Allfather of Valhalla
Jun 27 2007, 08:52 PM
Here's a question: What If....it was a FORCED protest? As in, a small group of allied countries who come together to legally demand answers, such as Canada, Mexico, and the United Kingdom. Wouldn't the Freedom of Information Act cover Area 51 in its guidelines? If the US government said yes to this kind of desicion, there may be nothing hide. If they said no, however, they might have a reason too. And if they did say no, saying "It could endanger the country!" will not help them one bit. If force would be required (tanks, armed forces, etc.), the US government may declare war, but the UN will probably restrict them because "They hurt our feelings!" is not the best answer when asked why you started a war.
Raptor
Jun 27 2007, 09:04 PM
QUOTE(The Chupacabra King @ Jun 27 2007, 09:52 PM)

Here's a question: What If....it was a FORCED protest? As in, a small group of allied countries who come together to legally demand answers, such as Canada, Mexico, and the United Kingdom. Wouldn't the Freedom of Information Act cover Area 51 in its guidelines? If the US government said yes to this kind of desicion, there may be nothing hide. If they said no, however, they might have a reason too. And if they did say no, saying "It could endanger the country!" will not help them one bit. If force would be required (tanks, armed forces, etc.), the US government may declare war, but the UN will probably restrict them because "They hurt our feelings!" is not the best answer when asked why you started a war.
If you deploy armed forces in a foreign country and threaten them with force, "hurting feelings" doesn't come in to it. It would be an act of war, plain and simple.
Lilly
Jun 27 2007, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(Gmac1000 @ Jun 27 2007, 08:30 PM)

do we bring a packed lunch..or is somthing..like ...provided?
The tear gas, bullets, and handcuffs are provided. All else is BYO.
DДrk_Lotu§
Jun 27 2007, 10:15 PM
the freedom of information act means nothing they can easily dismiss it this simply "we need to protect our national security" if there was a protest i can see people getting shot, tazered, maced and rounded up and sent to prison... unfortunately
Adama
Jun 28 2007, 12:17 AM
Yea, sorry about the 3 threads it was an accident, my pc stuffed up and i wasnt sure if the topic was sent. Oh and 4 Keithisco, have you ever heard of TV and travel?
Adama
Jun 28 2007, 12:20 AM
and the topic heading with the 4 was a short way for saying for.
Cold.
Jun 28 2007, 01:06 AM
What if they ATTEMPTED to push back the patrol, and demanded answers? There'd be a lot of full body bags.
REBEL
Jun 28 2007, 07:45 AM
The majority rules...always.
If enough people and i'm talking millions at once

converge on any of these secret government locations anywhere around the globe...they'll get the truth whatever it is one way or another, there won't be a thing the governments or military could do about it and they know it. There would be world wide media coverage like you would'nt believe even more the reason the governments and military would have to play nice
Adama
Jun 28 2007, 08:00 AM
Exactly right,
But no one would do it cause their sh** scared of what might happen. But believe me on this one, a lot of people are losing patience and when something happens, like a ufo lands and theirs amaing footage of it and proof, or thousands of people die from an alien attack (im just making a point) or a poisenous gas emitted from Area 51, and then the government will try to cover it up, the people will have had enough and would eventually overthrow the base with ease.
Numbers always wins over strength well mostly, except for the mighty Spartans. lol
REBEL
Jun 28 2007, 08:27 AM
QUOTE(Adama @ Jun 28 2007, 05:30 PM)

Exactly right,
But no one would do it cause their sh** scared of what might happen.
Numbers always wins over strength
Thats how they want and expect you to feel.
(*sad when people have to feel fear of their own government, eh)
I think you might be right, people maybe starting to loose patience.
I think it's more of a question of no one has time or gives a rats ass though because we're all so 'preoccupied' with our daily lives...like robotic sheep.
These secret bases are all tax payer funded by the people, should be our right and business to know whats going on.
If they have nothing to hide then i guess they have nothing to worry about.
Laterrrrr...

edit*
frodonet
Jun 28 2007, 02:16 PM
QUOTE(REBEL @ Jun 28 2007, 04:27 PM)

Thats how they want and expect you to feel.
(*sad when people have to feel fear of their own government, eh)
I think you might be right, people maybe starting to loose patience.
I think it's more of a question of no one has time or gives a rats ass though because we're all so 'preoccupied' with our daily lives...like robotic sheep.
These secret bases are all tax payer funded by the people, should be our right and business to know whats going on.
If they have nothing to hide then i guess they have nothing to worry about.
Laterrrrr...
edit*
One thing i really want to know is...
Why would they want to hide UFO from us or it's theories ?
REBEL
Jun 28 2007, 02:26 PM
QUOTE(frodonet @ Jun 28 2007, 11:46 PM)

One thing i really want to know is...
Why would they want to hide UFO from us or it's theories ?
My guess is once we ALL find out(?)what they've been up to all these years...governments, religion, powerful corporations etc, all the bullsh.t we've been fed all our lives etc, is all shot to hell...they loose control of us...no more robotic human sheep i guess.
Later.
frodonet
Jun 28 2007, 02:33 PM
QUOTE(REBEL @ Jun 28 2007, 10:26 PM)

My guess is once we ALL find out(?)what they've been up to all these years...governments, religion, powerful corporations etc, all the bullsh.t we've been fed all our lives etc, is all shot to hell...they loose control of us...no more robotic human sheep i guess.
Later.
I don't see the connection of the world today with UFOs.
But hiding the UFOs from the norm is maybe to avoid panic and chaotic enviroment.
Maybe in the human mind, we are in the top of the food chain but guess what happens if UFOs are on top of us?
We would be panicked.
Primeval
Jun 28 2007, 02:34 PM
1000's of people would mysteriously go missing.
REBEL
Jun 28 2007, 02:37 PM
QUOTE(frodonet @ Jun 29 2007, 12:03 AM)

I don't see the connection of the world today with UFOs.
But hiding the UFOs from the norm is maybe to avoid panic and chaotic enviroment.
Maybe in the human mind, we are in the top of the food chain but guess what happens if UFOs are on top of us?
We would be panicked.

Panic....What for!?
If they exist and they wanted to they would have blown us in to next week by now.
frodonet
Jun 28 2007, 02:44 PM
QUOTE(REBEL @ Jun 28 2007, 10:37 PM)

Panic....What for!?
If they exist and they wanted to they would have blown us in to next week by now.
Usually, an intelligent lifeform would develop more of learning and observing culture and less hostile.
They are not interested in hostility i think...
REBEL
Jun 28 2007, 02:55 PM
QUOTE(frodonet @ Jun 29 2007, 12:14 AM)

Usually, an intelligent lifeform would develop more of learning and observing culture and less hostile.
They are not interested in hostility i think...

Right on the $$$ brother.
We'll make them our buddies and show them some of our more 'awesome culture', an AC/DC or Judas Priest concert or something.
Later...
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