I ran across a "Christian" pamphlet in my local Wal-mart's restroom. You know the ones I'm refering to; Jesus loves you and gave his life to save your soul. However, The Last Generation was quite different from those I've seen in the past. This is the link for the identical pamphlet that is being distributed by "loving" Christians world wide. I read this and was physically ill! Is this the future of Christianity? Are these the "values" that Christians are teaching the youth of this world? Do most Christians view other religions, Wicca in particular, as evil, pet sacrificing, blasphemers who brainwash good, decent children? Please, tell me that these "good" people are the minority among Christians.

If you've chosen to participate in the poll, which I hope I've set up properly, please take a moment and share your views.

I've never seen pamphlets anywhere like this. If these truly are being distributed "by loving Christians world wide", I wonder why they forgot my area. I do not believe this kind of belief is as widespread as you would think. Pre-millenialism (the Eschatological belief of people being "raptured" up before the anti-Christ comes) is not even a majority belief in Australian Christianity. Indeed, if you want to see one of the more common gospel tracts that people hand out in Australia, it is a six or seven page book that goes through the gospel story and then asks if people want to find out more then go to a church - a link to a larger version of that tract can be found HERE (note that the tract contains the pictures you see in the boxes on the top right of screen, but the paragraphs have been summarised into bullet-points for breivity in the pamphlets (sorry, I tried searching, but couldn't find a nice small online version of the tract). As you will note, there are not stories, no made-up people, no comments about people disappearing or being tortured. Nothing of the sort. I think these tracts that you found would only be passed around in an area with strong pre-millenial leanings. I do not think it is quite so wide-spread as you would imagine, DeVoL

That said, I think I would like to change my vote now I read the tract, my jaw dropping lower by the sentence, and then hastily clicked "No", these kinds of things should not be tolerated. However, the question you asked is worded as "should this material be tolerated" - by association that means the opposite is to deny the right to this group to publish their pamphlet. To take away their right to say and do what they like (within the limits of the law) is wrong. Though their pamphlet is completely ignorant to the point of being down-right damnable, I do not believe we have the right to say to others that they cannot hold their belief of choice or print whatever material they like in relation to it (as long as it doesn't contravene the law) To do so would make us moderates (whether Christian or otherwise) as bad and condemnatory (is that a word???) as these people. So while I cringe at the thought, I should have voted "yes" to their right to publish the material....... However, if the question were to read "do you agree that what they are saying is right", then I would vote a resounding "no".

Regards, PA

I voted "No, it shouldn't be tolerated." But what I meant was "It should be tolerated, but mocked and laughed at on sight."
These people must operate on an incredibly low level of intelligence if they expect sane people to take their propaganda seriously.

Ahhh new chick...

>.> Man needs a clue.

I have changed my initial thoughts as is I have realized that to impede on their right to express I am being malevolent and being against the peace that I myself teach. Instead I would kindly discuss with them on why they believe as they do, and I would in turn present my own beliefs.

Wow, that is unreal. I've received such pamphlets before when I went to church, I recognize the layout and last page very distinctly. Actually, I was given a comic book type with various parts from the bible illustrated about homosexuality, and grown sinful men taking advantage of little children.

Yes, this is exactly what we're teaching our children today. I fear what Christianity will look like 20-30 years from now. Too much do leaders use the fear factor to gain members of the church rather than the loving aspects of what God teaches.

Why would ANY christian object to this? it DOES say this stuff in the bible, what's the problem?

this saddens me greatly how can they pretty much turn everything we as a species as achieved into a Nazi-like concept, that is wrong beyond all words, it even reminds me of what the US used for ww2, germans eating babies. Propaganda, that must make GW Bush and clan very happy.

Someone send Washington, the White House, this and see what happens.

Jack chick is one of those crazy christians who think they are a persecuted minority, pay little heed to him.

Once again I am proven right in my low opinion of Abrahamics

So I'm not the only one who took one look at little Bobby and thought of the Hitler youth.

I think it was intentional

its no different than any other religion.

I don't see Pagans and Buddhists running around telling people they're going to be tortured for an eternity if they don't worship as they do.

Also massively ironic was the father saying you should love animals, yeah ever eat a hamburger you hypocrite, but what should I expect from Abrahamics

Love animals? How does that fit in with slaughtering a lamb so you can smear its blood all over your lintel? Or burning one because god likes the smell of burning animal? The last time I commented that I felt sorry for the animals which were slaughtered in the bible a Christian here told me such a sentiment was just ridiculous.

Haha, you christians and your "children".

Another reason i'm glad i'm not an Abrahamic

Fake. Comic strips are the easiest things to edit.

Oh Jack Chick, gotta love him.
Tolerate him? Yes.
I read his church history stuff for laughs.

I voted yes. but really he should of included the whole plan of salvation.

Or just not bother the rest of us with his propoganda

you might want to look up pagan beliefs before you make that assumption. This post isnt about what you see either. Hypocrite (i didnt kill the cow). If i was starving and there was nothing to eat but you. I would consider it if you were dead. A belief is a belief none better than the other. A religion is a religion none better than the other. " its no different than any other religion" Muslims kill each other so do christians. 'thou shall not kill' tell that to a christian soldier. ironic isnt it.

Yeah i've seen a lot of Pagan beliefs who don't even believe in hell, and don't say that you're going to be tortured if you don't worship what they do, and I certainly don't see that with Buddhists who believe in reincarantion

Actually yes you did, same way you can be tried for Murder if you order it, by eating the burger you are encouraging the slaughter of Animals, enjoy your hypocrisy burger

And you're not starving, and yet you accept the slaughter of Animals, you don't love animals you butcher them, just like the rest of you hypocrites

I'm not muslim or christian, and like I said I think all the religions of Abraham are a cancer on this planet

i encourage death that is a bold accusation. but buttholes are like opinions everybody has one

If you eat meat then you do, what else do you call it, if everyone was vegeterian why would people kill animals for their meat (it would be pointless)? So saying you care about animals is hypocrisy and more Abrahamic propoganda and lies

you dont know me, your not allowed to make personal attacks, and where did i say that i care about animals. I do but thats besides the point. Would you rather throw the meat away, im not the person who can ban hunting and slaughter houses. Stop eating meat, i was raised eating flesh, fortunatelyi ts not addicting and i wouldnt be saddened if it was no longer in the grocery store. Im calling you a hypocrit because you dont drive a hybrid vehicle with zero emissions i dont like you you planet killer.

Actually I do have a hybrid (a prius )

I'm not attack you personally I'm attacking Abrahamics as a whole, especially in light of the pamphlet comic that claims that you guys love animals and others don't, and i'm pointing out you guys are the big animal killers, and the hypocrisy inherent in that.

I've never heard of or seen these "comics" but after doing a little bit of research, apparently this Jack Chick guy has been creating them for well over 40 years.

About the Author:

http://www.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p2.asp


My opinion? These comics are a stain on my faith and if I ever found any of them they'd go into my trusty paper shredder.

not with zero emissions you dont, who said im christian and who doesnt know the several hundred different factions of christianity.

Holy mind twisters, Batman! Unfortunately there are some people spreading this garbage. Fortunately they are few and far between. There are fanatics in every religious group. I’m just glad that this pamphlet does not reflect mainstream Christian thinking. Most thinking Christians wouldn’t even consider joining a church that teaches and supports those notions. Just like most thinking people wouldn’t put on a new pair of sneakers and then kill themselves in the expectation of living on the tail of a comet. (Yes, what those people did to themselves is tragic and I don’t mean to make light of it.) From what I’ve seen, many of the Southern Evangelical churches do see Wiccans as “devil worshipers.” I find it sadly funny how they can’t understand that you have to believe in Christ in order to believe in the Devil. These are the same people who see Halloween as “the Devil’s birthday” and the worshiping of evil. Just keep in mind that this is not the thinking of ALL Christians. As for me, yup, I believe in God and Christ. I also believe in the freedom to choose. It doesn’t matter to me what YOU believe, that is between you and your God and your conscience. The only thing that is important to me is, are you a decent human being? Is Americ’s morals going to “hell in a hand-basket?” You bet. As they say, never judge the group by the individual.

Um....because that's a hysterical exaggeration of what the Bible says. It's an interpretation that is more or less a lot of hot air, but nothing of any real substance.


you went to his site, or did you forget?

Being a Pagan I don't have to look it up. Wiccans don't do blood sacrifice, all the Wiccans I know own dogs and cats and love them like their children. I know some who are vegans.

I sent the web site an email about what sickos they are. I voted it shouldn't be tolerated, but what can you do. They have the right to put that crap out, but it sure makes this Druid very mad. It just hate tracks just like something you would get from the KKK. If they write me back I'll let you know what they say.

He should keep it to himself in his head, putting it on the Web means he wants exposure



I said Abrahamics, not christians only

Actually, it appears that Chick is a recluse and someone else is putting his material out there. he's quite old... 84.

I'm guessing if he hasn't destroyed the world in the 40+ years he's been putting this stuff out, he's not going to.

One of his biggest targets is the Catholic church.

All I can say is "oh my."

I had to vote yes, it should be tolerated, only because it's a free speech issue. However...I wonder how close that stuff may come to "hate speech" as some people have called inflammatory literature. I'm torn. But I will say that it should be burned on sight. Utter crap, whether you look at it from a Christian perspective or not.

reading it, i had to laugh! it was beyond ridiculous, how could anyone take it seriously?!

if someone did, i'd immediately refer them to a psychriatric ward you'd have to be an absolute headcase

Hey hey, you have to respect their rights to believe it, and not call them a nutcase. Instead talk to them, ask them why, question and discuss. Tell them why you don't believe it. Don't just laugh and say "You should go to a loony bin." It's counterproductive to peace.

Sadly, this isn't a fake. I've received such publications (although not this one) from this company before. Equally bizarre.

I voted "No",since it should not be tolerated...yet it should be allowed to be printed.

These tracts allow the rest of us to see who is a religious zealot.These tracts are handed out by the Funda-*Mental*-ists and Evangelists...and not only in the Southern U.S.

The best thing to do when handed one of these is to quickly look at it in the presence of the one who handed it to you,then either rip it up in front of them or hand it back to them with the reply of "What a load of rubbish!".

That would be utterly and entirely disrespectful. Why not instead just say "I see this as ridiculous and I'm curious as to why you believe it?" If it pleases you, you could even discuss your own beliefs.

i doubt a conversation would go down very well! they'd just damn me to hell

come on, there has got to be a few screws lose to believe that sort of thing, a normal brain does not operate in that fashion

I've been a Christian all my life and never saw anything like this. No one in my church is being taught this. No one I know teaches their children this.


Captain said it well. This is NOT representative of all Christians--only a small, super-fundamentalist sect.

Unfortunately, these nuts give Christian head-hunters loads of material to run with. ::Sigh:: It gets so tiring when people generalize and stereotype.

Ahoy,
Damn to hell!? If had a nickle for every time some one has damned me to hell, I'm going to be a very rick man when I get there!
Anything that trys to teach hate and intolerance..... and I don’t care how they mask it…religion, science…what ever, needs to be “damned to hell.” I support free speech and people’s rights, so I guess we have to put up with it. I just wonder when some people are going to move into the 21st century.

They show me disrespect by handing me these tracts...so I do not plan on showing them any respect either.

As for discussing beliefs,these types do not willingly listen to anyone.You can't get a word in edgewise,so it would do little good to make the attempt.

I'd rather scare them away.

Ahoy,
If I had a nickle for every time some one has damned me to hell, I'm going to be a very rich person when I get there Anything that trys to teach hate or intolerance..... and I don’t care how they mask it…religion, science…what ever, needs to be “damned to hell.” I support free speech and people’s rights, so I guess we have to put up with it. I just wonder when some people are going to move into the 21st century.

The sects handing these out are larger and more widespread than many think.

But I do agree that the over-generalizations and stereotyping goes far overboard.T'is why I now specify which types I rail against.

I've seen those tracts at the local Wal-Mart bathroom. It's what prompted me to make the observation of such things being left in bathroom stalls, conveniently enough, right atop the paper dispenser. As if , while sitting, you might wish to engage in some light reading. In truth, it's a violation of public policy in every Wal-Mart store, to distribute propaganda or literature, without Wal-Marts express permission. And as such, I think that's why one finds this in bathroom stalls, where they're less likely to be seen by management.

My personal opinion is the context of those materials are to send a message of intolerance for others, and to impart a sense of low self-esteem by demanding one accept the message, as that pamphlet imparts in the last frames of the tract. "YOU" are a sinner! There's only one way to get your sins forgiven. Thereby sending the message to anyone not christian, that dares to read it, that they are condemned as sinners, for holding their current personal faith. It's presumptuous, arrogant and disrespectful to think that message has the right to tell someone, sitting in the john that there are some people, i.e. those that put the materials in the bathroom stall at a department store, that they're damned for who they are. Unless they believe there's only one way to change that. That doesn't impart tolerance, that imparts absolutism, exclusivist and prejudice. Bathroom stalls aren't ministries for god. They're enclosed private facilities, where one relieves themselves of their wastes. It therefore seems a strange place, to believe someone has the right, yet again, to ask, in print above a paper dispenser in that toilet area, if they know jesus.

So I thought about it

Should we tolerate this

Non-Christians: Yes, it is a necessary evil of free speech.

Christians: No, unless you like your faith represented this way.

I bet it makes for good toilet paper! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In that case it should be tolerated because it has more than one use!