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Azalin
If time travel was possible, it would not be the same as you expect it too be.

First of all, believing in time Travel, one must beleive in the Multi-verse, as well as Quantum Physics. According to the Multiverse, there is another world, where the decesion you made today, was somewhat different, where another you, chose something different. So, for example, you were suppose to cut the grass today, but you decided not too. For this another world is created where you in fact DID cut the grass, this would spawn a whole universe where everything is different.

So, if you went back in time, and changed time, you would be living in a NEW multiverse. The world around you would be different, but the world you left would be entirely unchanged by your events.
AlteredVoices
QUOTE(Shooter @ Jan 7 2006, 09:57 AM) [snapback]1010074[/snapback]

The 'Future'
The future has not occured yet, the 'time' is there, as time is a infinite straight line, yet, your actions have not yet been 'written'. Your decisions and choices are what make the 'future'. There are so many variations to the future, so many paths to take, the future is what you make it.
It's 2:30AM here in Australia, I'm going to sleep.


this here is why there is always so much debate about time travel, and the debate spirals in many diffrent direction it seems.

heres how it goes,, if one atleast belives in time travel "to the future" which is possible but still primitive. then then that person should belive in paralle universes.
why? well because they only slightly existed outside of time they left (which is why i call it primitive) they still come back to a time they had not entirely, had any direct empact on. had they not borded the fast moven jet/vehical the effect on time would have been more dirrect and upto date with the rest of the worlds populace, meaning no paralle time "not close but exact".

so if a time fluxuation such as that exists then its only more probable that alternet univereses exist. the key here is if there is multiply time lines, depending on the speed at which your traveling, then the future is written. not for the traveler of course but for the people who are left behind, see you travel to a future which has not been written, out side of your own time line (you would then end up in something close to what you thought was your real time). had you not taken that trip then the future may be somewhat diffrent.
it all really depends on the speed of your travels. however for a true paralle time to exist we must first beable to travel back in time.

the major part here is that when we travel at high velocities then we infact end up in atime from which we left and may be younger accourding to our own biological clock then others born at the exact same time as us meaning we did infact travel to a time which was written for others and not for the indaviduale traveler/ you exisited independintly from there time.

whats really mind boggleing to me is if the time was also written for the traveler as well? cause is there is paralles the of course one you the travelers did not travel,,, also if time is infact infanete then given any amount of time every thing,any thing should happen. its like the possiblitys are all laid out and plained but up to indavidual people to decide..of course this is not entirely true untile we discover how to travel backwards but for the most part it its accurate.

yeah i sorta agree,but disgust.gif
Xyfer
Time machines will never be real [ 36 ] [53.73%]
Time machines are real [ 14 ] [20.90%]
People have traveled back in time!! [ 17 ] [25.37%]

It seems that most people here think time machines will never be real and I disagree. People will try/create time machines, but the question is whether something like that would ever work hmm.gif I don't think it would. The choices we make do decide our future. Who are we to have the power to go forward and backwards in time and change things as we see fit. Its not going to happen. original.gif
canadarm
From what I understand of the most current theories, there are a couple paradoxes that can put to rest anyones fears about changing the past or whatnot...

1) A time machine can only travel back in time as far as the time is was created.

This sounds kinda dumb but some guy somewhere spents a lot of time getting a phd to come up with that... An alternative to a conventional time machine would be to send a telescope to some great distance (maybe unsing new magnetic bubble stuff and other dimensions...) which would get there quicker than light, so you could look back with the telescope and "see" the past..

2) You would not be able to change the past.

Whats done is done. What will be the results of this paradox? I don't know..the best i can think of is the only way for you to never be able to change anything is to not go back in time. So maybe all the "crackpots" who said that they invented time machines really did but due to this paradox they couldn't travel back. Who knows.

Adramaleck
when one would attempt time travel as everything in the world, another alternate reality is created for every decision and atom there is a seperate reality. The world we live in simply may be one of the myriad that has not discovered time travel yet, and when we do and go back in time, the person actually won't come back to us, but what is us to him but is really an alternate reality wherein we have created time travel...
Immortal Norway
This is probobly one of the most difficult questions that is possible to ask.

A lot of peoples have already comed with an argument were they say that if we ever invents the timemachine, why isn`t anyone wisiting us right now? hmm.gif

Well, myself i`m not shure if we ever invent the timemachine. I belive that it`s a 50% change that the timemachine is going to be invented. Because the rules of fysics, time and distance makes it nearly impossible to create an timemachine. But also against the argument that stands above here remember that if someboby ever invents an timemachine maybe they will keep it and use it only alone. And maybe the police ore something finds about it and ammideatly destroys the machine before they get proper time to travel and make changes in history.

Also it`s possible that someone has traveled back in time (maybe he shoot John.F.Kennedy ore something), but since the history is so heavy spreaded the change that he will come right behind mine (ore youre) neck is microscopibly.

So after all i belive it is a 50% change that the timemachine ever would be invented.
Rykster
I really think that all of the anthropomorphic aliens we see are us from the future, coming back to study Earth history. They keep away from us to avoid disturbing the time-line.
Immortal Norway
Rykster, what you just said is the most brilliant and genious thing i`ve ever heard. ohmy.gif

Keep up the good work! thumbsup.gif
Rykster
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 8 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]1053853[/snapback]

Rykster, what you just said is the most brilliant and genious thing i`ve ever heard. ohmy.gif

Keep up the good work! thumbsup.gif

I will return to the future now...
Bella-Angelique
I think that if devices for time travel were made by an advanced civilization they would watch over their construction and use much more closely than we do the creation of atomic devices.
I think the first step in making a time device, if possible, would be to learn how to control gravity, because if you can truly control gravity then you can control time I suspect.

artymoon
Time does not exist
tinkerbellsas
I don't think that they will ever be able to create a time machine but if they could I would first in line to get in one...I would love to go back in time and change a lot of things ...I think everyone would like to be able to do that ...we would all have things we would do differently
odas
QUOTE(artymoon @ Feb 8 2006, 04:23 PM) [snapback]1053874[/snapback]

Time does not exist

Well said. Time does not exist. Only space in various forms. But we are so used to our earthly time that we think what applies on earth applies somewhere else too. Wrong.
ShaunZero
QUOTE(Seraphina @ Dec 13 2003, 08:02 PM) [snapback]99798[/snapback]

But you can't change it tongue.gif To even suggest you can is ignoring the obvious fact that it occured...

The fact that you have yet to travel back in time now, does not negate the fact that (assuming you one day will) whatever intervention may have occured in the past already HAS occured.

While I don't deny it's possible for to hypothetically go back in time and influence events, the only effect they could possible have is whatever occured in recorded history.

If someone traveled back in time from the future and prevented 9/11 for example, then it would never have occured for us to remember it. The fact that it DID occur tells us that nobody from the future, even if an attempt was made, was successful at preventing it from occuring.

The past, obviously, is the past....it's already occured, and we're already aware of what happened in it. Just because you're coming back from a time further ahead than our own doesn't mean whatever events occured when you reached the past hasn't already happened.

Does that make any sense whatsoever? It seems simply enough to me, but I suppose it is...complicatedish tongue.gif



Makes since but that just speaks for those who didn't time travel. How exactly will remember it? If you remember the WTCs being attacked, then go back in time and stop it, do you automatically remember all the things that would have happended to you if the WTC never were attacked? >.>




I also agree that more than likley, time does not exist. It is only a man made idea. Things just.... are.
Immortal Norway
Rykster, i hope you are joking, you are joking, aren`t you ?
Rykster
QUOTE(Norwegian Phoenix @ Feb 9 2006, 09:02 AM) [snapback]1055032[/snapback]

Rykster, i hope you are joking, you are joking, aren`t you ?

Er, uh yeah. Joking, that's it, a joke...

BTW, when you meet a girl named Monica (the waitress at Applebees)...
RUNAWAY!!! w00t.gif
Immortal Norway
Rykster, i`m norwegian so i`m not realy good in english so..., what`s applebees ?

Also you said that you would return to the future now and you said that yesterday so... Why are you still here ???

I`ve also thougth about what i said yesterday and i`ve fought about: is it possible that the timemachine is invented, but the people who made it is keeping it to them self right now in the minute i`m writing ?
Rykster
Sorry Norwegian.

It would only be funny in America!

I am in the future, yesterday's future...
Immortal Norway
Rykster,... i new you were a fake, i just knew it. (Also if you mean Monica who is working on the cafe not long away from here you should just know that she is a friend of one of the best friends to the one i`m in love with so i realy doesn`t think that she would be dangerous to me). Also how would she be dangerous to me?

And also Rykster i`m realy imprest over that you have an average of 52 replies sent p.r day
Rykster
It won't last. I'm new to this site and just enjoying it. I'll get bored eventually. I always do.
Immortal Norway
Rykster, you say I will get bored of it eventualy I always do. So... what do you mean with that ?

Also if anyone of you reading this are going to invent an timemachine. Come to me right now ! I mean it !
Ivo
I said they would never be real. I just can't believe that any group of humans in the future could invent such device or method without misusing it. The old saying if it was invented then someone has already been here doesn't wash with me. Somehow the secret would get out and we would know, unless...

...the theory that travelling in time changes events just by the act alone and thus the traveller ends up in an alternate universe thus we never see the effects of such travels. That is the only scenario that I could see happening if indeed time travel has become a future reality.
Pax Unum
personally I doubt time travel possible... but then...

Every time you look at the sky, you travel back in time... in a sense.

When you look at a star which is 100 000 light-years away, you see it as it was 100 000 years ago.

Its light has needed all that time to get to your eyes.

So what does this star look like ‘now’? There is no way to know, unless you wait 100 000 years for when the light emitted at that moment will reach the Earth (but then it won't be ‘now’ anymore!).

Travelling back in time
Pax Unum
of coarse, the whole idea hinges on humans surviving, and developing into an advanced civilization, capable of the technologies required... yes.gif
syos
mine is the best wait for it......TIME POLICE.... time machine made in the future for the reson i dont know why but they would be good on your school field trips. grin2.gif lol.
K13Greenfaery
rofl.gif don't you see someone did go back in time and changed the future. In our alternate universe Americans lost the war and Canada became a superpower see... Monkey's ruled the world with the Reptile people by thier side and created a hit tv show call "the ways beyond time", which later got cancelled.............. rofl.gif

My point is that if some did come back in time and changed it we wouldn't know the difference. Like wouldn't it be wierd if I lived in that red house for my whole life, well if you did live in that red house for your whole life it wouldn't be weird. Some people think that Aliens might just be time travelers, meaning that aliens are not really aliens since they are not from another planet. But that is "if" you believe in Aliens.
newbloodmoon
John Titor supposedly had time traveled and it was perfected not to long from now since his supposed younger self is running around right now. I am sure there have been others that have claimed to come back from the future to do A-B-to fix the end result which is of course C.

I think it Arthur C. Clark (if I am wrong I am sure I will be corrected on the author) had written a story about time travel and it was just turned into a movie last year. The premis of the story was by use of time machines people could go on selective hunts in the far past. these hunts as long as the people didn't deviate from the path things in the future would be fine. Well needless to say, one of the people had stepped on a butterfly from prehistoric times and when he had come back Hitler had ended up winning WWII because of that one butterfly throwing off the timeline.

I personally don't think time travel will happen.
Ivo
QUOTE(newbloodmoon @ Feb 13 2006, 06:16 PM) [snapback]1060616[/snapback]
I think it Arthur C. Clark (if I am wrong I am sure I will be corrected on the author) had written a story about time travel and it was just turned into a movie last year. The premis of the story was by use of time machines people could go on selective hunts in the far past. these hunts as long as the people didn't deviate from the path things in the future would be fine. Well needless to say, one of the people had stepped on a butterfly from prehistoric times and when he had come back Hitler had ended up winning WWII because of that one butterfly throwing off the timeline.


grin2.gif

Yes, it was actually Ray Bradbury...excellent book.


newbloodmoon
Thanks for the correction Ivo, I figured someone here would set me straight. thumbsup.gif
Jamesinho
I dont believe in Time Machines, because its completely impossible to go back in time.

Alywas remember, TIME can't be Stopped, Rewinded or Forwarded. dontgetit.gif
thecreeper
I think that time travel to the past is impossible to travel to the past , time travel to the future is possible. because it was not a result of a person traveling though time. but it would strange for example I am 15 if I traveled 20 years into the future ( not by choice) I could run into my 35 year old self, also IF I was married and my future wife had kids I could run into them. possible fainting and some very confusing things could happen huh.gif
Rykster
We do travel in time. Everyday we move one day into the future...
thecreeper
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 14 2006, 11:59 PM) [snapback]1062171[/snapback]

We do travel in time. Everyday we move one day into the future...


thats not time travel angry.gif time travel is going in to the past or future faster then time itself.
RamboIII
QUOTE(Rykster @ Feb 14 2006, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1062171[/snapback]

We do travel in time. Everyday we move one day into the future...


lol grin2.gif well said.
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