This will be my first time posting so Hi everyone.

I have a 9 year old chow/dane cross along with several other dogs because we do rescue out of my home. My other dogs are however blind besides him.

Recently we moved to our new home and I don't know much about it but several families have come and gone over the years. I have found some stuff in the horse barn dating back from the late 40s.

Ever since we have moved my chow has been acting very odd. He will watch the walls in the living room for 10 15 minutes at times. I have walked over and can not find any reason for it. Its is however normally in the same area of the room. Some times he will snarl or growl but not always. I have had all the dogs act very odd in the room that is not normal for them and if they are not in the living room are fine. Any idea on why this is going on?

A few other thing that have happened is that the front door also in the living room will lock on its own. For no reason. We also sometimes will hear things we can not relate to what is going on inside or out. Normally that will happen in the middle of the night.

We had one very very very bad thing happen in the living room a week after moving in. A dog I have had for a year and a half for no reason killed another dog. I ended up putting him to sleep but about that same time the door locking and the dog and the dogs that had the incident were acting weird and reacting to things on the wall. The two dogs that ended up dieing were always great with each other.

To be honest even though we just moved in two weeks ago I want to move again. It's a very nice house but something seems very wrong here. Can someone please offer some advise

Wow that sound's scary. If I were you maybe moving again would not be such a bad idea. Yes I think animals can give us warning signs and it sounds like they are giving you a good one. You know your dogs dont doubt them. Yes move. Oh by the way welcome. Now start packing!

Yes animals are more sensitive with their sight.

Hello Vegan114, Welcome to the forum!

Sorry to hear about your dogs!

Yes animals do tend to sense things that humans don't or react more quickly. However I don't know if I would be so hasty about moving. Maybe a good thing to do is to start looking at the experiences you've had in the house so far and try to find a rational/logical/mundane reason first.

The dogs may all be stressed out from the move. Stress and the pecking order, you've been around dogs and do the animal rescue so you know how stressed they can be in a new situation. Two dogs going off on each other well, your most likely stressed from the move too. Getting settled in and in an unfamiliar situation/house with left overs from prior tenants still on the place might make you feel that it isn't really yours, (you know like sneaking in your parents room and looking at their stuff when you were a kid, LOL!)

Animals can be sensitive to animals and termites. Yes I said termites. OK. How do I know this? Our cat kept misbehaving in one spot in our living room. They would stand by it and carry on or more irritating, leave a calling card. (they would make a pee pee, rotten devils.) I threatened Kittie diapers for them but when we remodeled our fire place (which was where the offenses occurred) we found a small termites nest. Apparently the sound of them, plus the smell of them were somehow annoying our cats. Weird... and I wouldn't have believed it unless I had seen it. They also got annoyed and did the same thing when we had a ground-hog under our house. Squirrels and yes sometimes snakes can get in between the walls of a home, so can mice, rats and a lot of other critters. If it's an older home you might have a pest problem rather than a haunting.

The door locking by itself may be that the lock is failing, especially if it's an older lock. Check these things out and if none of these are valid then you might start thinking of the paranormal but don't rule out the normal first.

You can find out the history of the house from the library or court house in your area. If you find out that it has an unsavory past you might want to have your Minister of choice do a blessing of the home. If not there are several places on the web for home/house blessings. Just google it.

Curious, what kind of stuff did you find in the out building?

Regards,
Mabon.

I can't spell today!

Hi Vegan114, you do wonderful work with rescue dogs

Does your chow do this behavior at certain times of the day? Canine eyesight isn't as good as ours in daylight, but comes into its own in crepuscular or dark conditions - inherited from the wolf ancestor. A canines strongest senses are smell and hearing rather than sight.

Shadow Wolf is right. Could it be possible that your dog is hearing something?

And I'm sorry to hear about your dogs. That is unusual. And you do wonderful work rescuing dogs. I rescued a dog from the pound; she is such a wonderful animal.

Maybe the dog thought of something that pissed him off.

Jeeze... I've had a lot of bad stuff happen with my dogs, but I've never had a dog kill another dog.
I'm so sorry to hear about your dogs, loosing a dog is like loosing you right arm. Believe me I know. Your dog could be hearing something, or it could be seeing something reflect of the wall. My German Shorthaired Pointer, Possum, is not the smartest dog in the world. When she sees something reflect off the wall, she goes crazy and starts jumping, and running into the wall thinking that she can get it. She thinks it's something to play with, when it's really just a reflection of light off of my dad's watch. Of course dogs are more attuned to things that we can't hear or see. Dogs have a very keen sense of smell and hearing. They acn hear up to ten times better then we can. I don't know if you should move or not, that's really up to you. If you feel a really bad presence or you just don't feel right in the house, then you should move. You should feel happy in your house, you shouldn't feel scared or bad when you walk in. I hope it all works out!

Just out of curiousity who is Cheryl or Sheryl or Sharon ( make any sense to you?)

What I meant by my first post is yes, dogs and children are more sensitive to seeing spirits (imaginary friends and all that).

My house is haunted. 100% proof positive. My 2 dogs will sit and bark at a blank wall until I make them stop. lmao... it's quite odd and in your case and could be disturbing as a new resident.

So, the larger dark/tan mutt severely injured the beagle?

No, I'm not psychotic...jut trying to get it right in my head.

Door locking, ect...is all quite normal and mundane.

Talk to me about anything here that makes sense to you.

Dogs staring or barking at a blank wall is not proof of haunting, or "seeing" anything. They smell...there is something, IN or OUTSIDE the wall that has their attention. My dog goes spaz at the back wall of our house. Rabbit or other varmint under the deck outside next to the wall. He's too stupid to realize he can't get it, but he goes beserk. He knows it's there. He can smell it.

He also KNOWS that my daughter is close on her way home from school. He SMELLS her before I can see her out the window. He can SMELL a dog being walked on the other side of the street without being able to see it.

Totally entitled to your own opinion hun

Indeed.....my posts are always my own OPINION....and we all know how THAT works out....

MY dogs are idiots and bark at their own reflection in glass....YOUR dogs on the otherhand may very well see into another dimension, that's your call.....

lmao, shaudddda u face....

dogs have more sences than we know, there was an experement on tv, a guy was driving home from work and his dog senced him 10 min before he came home, it happened every single day, the dog didn,t hear him, didn,t smell him, it senced him, who knows what your dog is baking at? and why, there could be some sort of energy on your wall or inside it, sometimes i think my dog can read my mind, if i,m in the bedroom and he is in the living room, if i think about him he'll come to the bedroom and puts his head on my bed, at first i tought it was a coincedense, but it works 99% of the time, we don,t know everything there is to know about dogs, hell we don,t even know everything about humans.

I think it could be a number of things, keep in mind the spectrum of sound dogs are able to hear IS FAR FAR FAR greater than ours, just to ear what a dog can hear would probably freak you out, just trying to imagine what everything would sound like if you could broaden our hearing spectrum you would pick up on SOO many more things.. like say i dunno, pipes behind your wall... perhaps vermin of some sort and if the dog cant physically see this but can hear it fine, you can understand why the dog might be acting a little strange. im not syaing THIS is whats happening in your case, im just saying why not explore a rational reason for your dog acting like this, rather than automatically thinking because your doggy aint acting the way hes usually does that there is a spirit etc in your house, which i assume is what your getting at.

Did you see this dog incident occur? can you explain what happened, what kind of dog was yours, and what kind of dog did he/she kill?
why put the dog to sleep?
sorry but there is nothing in your story which is scare, eerie, paranormal or unexplainable...well not that i can see

just my opinion anyway...and nobody usually likes that.

Not true ZJ. I liked what you wrote. I agree more details (what you mentioned) are needed.

Other than sensing the man coming home, could it be a habit type thing. Dogs can be pretty smart and they do get into a routine, Maybe the dog just knew the habit of when his human was supposed to be home and got excited because it was on schedule for him. My son works nites. My dog is used to him coming home at a certain time. When that time gets close he will go lay by the door because he knows he will be let out soon.

i know exactly what you mean and how you feel. I believe dogs and cats see things we cannot. For no reason try staring at your dogs eyes maybee they will show you what they have shown me. take it as a grain of salt because i almost committed suicide because of it. Be very careful do not claim that your more than human like i did. This will lead to more things that youprobably donot want to see.

I had a yorkshire once and he would stand up against the wall ear pressed to it and listen and walk the walls..come to find out their were mice inside the walls driven him made...He hated mice..rofl ..as been mentioned before dogs have a very kine since of hearing seeing and smelling...since you mentioned something about a barn then more than likely you got serveral field mice round about..usually comes with the terrian..dogs fight. it happens notta perfect world gotta german shephard and she hates my ratterrier and tries to liturally kill her . there can only be one domonite one...someone else mentioned pecking order...its a way of life..for all animals. I wouldnt move but thats up to you Id investage and find the problems and rid the place of it..welcome to UM.

research the houses history, all the other things i was gonna say have been said, i dont think anyones said that yet, not too sure, i may have to update this another time when im more awake and read the comments.

Most dogs have an extra keen sense of smell and hearing...They can detect when a human is afraid of them by the odor the human passes off...I know this is in the case of many police dogs..In my old house I had a hallway closet and my dog was constantly sitting there just waiting for something...I saw nothing in there, but at the time when our leaves were collected, we would put the bags back into this closet...Well after about 3 days, from under the doorsill, out comes a snakes head...He was in one of the bags, and my dog knew it, I just couldn't see it....He would also sense when my husbands truck came down the road, would turn his head to the location and just wait....They are extremely smart animals...As other posters said, check out all the circumstances in your house...I go mostly with the new enviornment they are in...I also think that it's great that you do rescuing....

It may very well not be paranormal that is what I want to find out... if possible.

A little more about the house. It is made of concrete blocks so it does lack in wood or gaps in the wall. Its pretty much cement and a little paint. I don't think any critters would be in the walls. Also my blind dogs can hear things that my seeing dog normally can't (he is old) that was why I kinda made up my mind that there was not a sound involved.

The incident with my dog killing my other one happened when I was in the room. The dog killed was a lab with three legs and the other dog was a deaf catahoula cross. The deaf catahoula I had rescued from a shelter when he was a baby. I taught him ASL and several trainers had helped me with him. He was sweet and we never had issues with either dog. He was raised with lots of dogs and we had moved once before with him and we never had trouble. Since he was deaf I had him drag a leash in case I needed him to look over at me. The lab saw him walk past him and tugged at his leash (they always do this) and it was nothing abnormal or crazy about it happening. All the dogs play walk the other dog. So any way he had the leash and was laying down. The catahoula turned grabbed him by the neck and ripped out his neck before I could even take two steps.... The reason I has the catahoula pts was because he could have done it again and I was afraid that I wouldn't be able to react fast enough like in this case. The lab was dead before I even got over to him and he never dropped the leash. He had no idea what happened I would have rather killed myself and still want to then to have happened what happened. Writing it down seems to make it hurt just that much more... I have pretty much stopped with rescueing animals. I feel like I am not someone that should do it after what happened.

Paranormal or not if there is something here making my dogs act out I need it to stop. I have never been so upset and so afraid then I am now. I hate it and I can't keep it up.



Before the incident with the dogs took place the night before and that morning they acted odd. The door locked twice that night when I went outside (I now carry keys) the lock that closes is a dead bolt not the little lock on the normal nobs and they were just replaced before we moved in. Also the chow, lab a houla all watched the wall and the chow and houla growled at it. They never have had any reaction like that before we moved in. I had a deaf dog that use to chase lights on the walls but this what ever it is was different. The chow still reacts sometimes but not as much before or on that day. It has been both in the mornings and afternoons. Once or twice at night.

Its enough to really creep me out no matter what it is happening my dogs are not like this and I don't know what is wrong so I can't seem to be able to fix it.

THe stuff that I found in the barn was in the tack room. Newspaper clippings and photos of horses and their people. The people from back then use to raise and show morgan horses from what I read. There are also some very very old boxes of medications for horses and boxes of little cement nails. They clippings and photos are on the wall and I never moved them just read them. And the same with the boxes I never touched the stuff just looked at it.

I think it is worth a trip to the library to find out a little more about the house that is if I can make myself leave the animals. I hate hate hate to leave them.

The one thing I forgot to add yesterday was the garage inbetween the house and the barn. One night I had put three dogs in there together. It was almost dark and I saw one of them running around the front of the house. This was before the fence was done so I freaked out and gathered them up. The garage door was opened. I still don't know how this happened because I unplugged the door before going in the house that afternoon. It has never happened since however.

As far as knowing a sharon I do and I was talking to her on the phone just before the dog killed the other dog. She is a friend of my husbands and I wanted her to bring something over for us. I don't know a Cheryl or Sheryl.

"So, the larger dark/tan mutt severely injured the beagle?" no the dog that killed the other was all white but a few black spots on his ears and belly and the other dog was a yellow/brownish lab. The only part with the beagle that matches is the lab came with a little beagle mix.

I believe that its possible he knows there is something on the otherside of the wall but again why do the blind dogs not react and none of the dogs have done that before? I looked very very close at the wall and saw nothing. Dogs do get to understand about what time their people come home they do watch about 2 in the afternoon for my husband and get very upset when he doesn't come home right then.

Hnnjsn can you tell us what you saw in your dog's eyes? I am really interested in what happened....

Nice details Thank's hun and thanks to replying to my thoughts.

You could always get a long white cane and dark glasses and bring the mutts with you to do the research...lmao...then take the glasses of to read. Okay just messing.

The wall my dogs bark at is solid brick so I don't know. Actually, they've bark at so many different walls in here...I have a monthly pest control contract. Crap I better ask if I have something in my walls then. LMAO.

No really I know what they're barking at...





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vegan114: Don't blame yourself. It was a loss, and it traumatized you. You took responsibility for those things you could control, and what happened simply was not one of them. In a way, everyone would like to think he is in control of everything, but nobody is. Sometimes the damnedest things just happen to you. To grieve over this event and learn from it is the best that can be done. To hold it over yourself is a grave mistake.

WOW boorite. That was the nicest thing I've seen you post. Well done.

Vegan114,

I am in agreement with Boorite on this. I hope that you find peace with the death of your dogs. It's hard and it'll take time so please give yourself time to grieve. Loosing loved ones is hard regardless of what form they are in.

But back to your current problem.
I found this out about concrete block..

The point being that pests can still be a potential source of some of the problem, not the only one.

On the other hand.
If you have a video camera or even just a camera, you might want to set it up (or at least keep it handy) where it is that the dogs watch the wall. Perhaps on camera you might be able to capture something that they are seeing but humans can't with the unaided eye.

Have you looked into the past of the home at the library or court house?
Again you might want to consider having the house blessed or bless it yourself.
But above all, try to relax. I know this may be easier said than done but you dogs are sensing your tension, regardless of what is causing this disturbance, you and the dogs are going to get into a vicious cycle of amping each other. Maybe take them out to play or for a walk or what every you like to do for fun. When some of the strange wall staring behavior starts.
Do hope you keep the board clued in on what's going on and what you find out.
You didn't state what you had found in the out building?

Regards,
Mabon.

I have done a little more searching.

First the library doesn't keep records from before the 70s. I even called the mayor and had no luck. If I can ask the neighbors I will if I see them.

My husband is a entomologist so with a little bit of nagging I got him to check the house it is fine no mice termites or other critter lurking about.

Thanks for your nice words. It's just one of those things its going to take me some time. At this point I am not ready to even grasp what has happened. Yes I have cried and screamed but it doesn't even begin to get to the place I am feeling. At some point I will need to talk more about it to stop myself from going crazy.

I can't write any more right now but will after while

Your dog probably saw or sees something,Same thing happend to me and a friend of mine,We were watching tv one night and his dog started barking at somthing in the hallway,Me"carring a gun because of somthing that happend in the neighbor hood and the house next door " and my buddy went to check it out and when we got to the hallway both of our hair on the back of our neck rised,the dog was barking at somthing from one end of the hall to the other but we could see nothing,we just looked at eachother and walk backwards out to the living room,then all of a sudden the dog stoped barking and came back into the room with us,he looked back a few minutes later and growled and just stood at the hallway like he was looking at something and we went to check again and we saw nothing,Very strange night indeed,It never happend again so we kind of left it at that.But I feel dogs can not only see somethings they maybe able to smell something too.

ZJ your ok in my book, Your opinions make for good reasoning,we need opinions like yours to keep the sanity.

Vegan, I understand your pain and do hope you find some way to cope with it. Feeling responsible for something that is not in your control can take a toll on you. I felt the same way when we put my cat to sleep because when I was a little child, I wasn't the gentlest with him; I felt that I caused his illness which lead to his death. You have my deepest sympathies, friend.

But about the house, this is gonna sound weird, but is there any possibility that it is built on an old cemetary or Native American burial ground?

i am sorry to hear about the problems with the dogs....sometimes, just like people, dogs will do some amazingly strange things to each other...you had no control over this so don't stop trying to help animals if you can....

i believe that you have somethng going on in the house...hard to say what at this point but you can inspect the house inside and out for anything that might be invading, such as pests, etc....dogs can hear and smell something to the tune of 25 times stronger than humans....my dogs have acted like you says yours have, barking at nothing on the wall, in rooms, some rooms they wouldn't go in, etc....until the problem makes itself known the dogs will continue to do what they are doing....keep watching, something will give.

randomhit10

Actually, no they're not.

Dogs have no better sight than our own.

What they do have, though, is better hearing.

When a dog stops and waits, it means that he's heard something. They stop so that if everything's just quiet enough, they'll be able to hear it again and hopefully see where it's coming from. They can hear things as far as 400 yards away.

They're not seeing ghosts.

Thank you for your insights. I believe children and animals are more "sensitive".

I respect your beliefs...

Its reckon its alot more complex than that. Because they are lower to the ground, and their ears and balance is completely different from our own, they have a far better sense of air pressure. I believe this is the reason why lost animals can travel vast and unimaginable distances back home.

I lost my Dog Nugget in Glastonbury festival (in the days of old when there was a travellers feild). Some how he managed to trot 80 miles in the correct direction back up to N.wales (home). Glastonbury is riddled with roads, he was picked up, trotting along the M5 motorway which leads directly back up there. I reckon he probably went cross country through somerset (or whatever county it is i forgot) and then found his way onto the motorway in Bristol (i trained him how to deal with cars and roads). I dont think there is anything "supernatural" about this, but i think it is a far more complex sensory at work than we give them credit. I think smell works with their sense of air pressure. Their whiskas can sense the wind and somehow their sense of balance and that (like when you deep underwater ypour ears pop) they measure and can identify subtleties that we havent the faintest idea about.

As far as supernatural stuff goes. I am sure that if energies do change it can be felt in the air. Guide dogs are now given to epileptics to warn them when they are about to have a fit, they can sense changes in the electro-whatsit in the air. It would be good if someone could do a search on this, i am USELESS at internet research. Well, if they are trained to warn epileptics when they are going to have a fit through their ability to sense electr-whatsit in the air, then perhaps they can sense other stuff.

I do alot of nightwalking, it gives me a thrill to be out in the dark, i feel like the world is mine. Once in Llanberis i was walking with Nugget down the hill he LOVES it, so excited tail wagging, you know what dogs are like! Anyway, all of a sudden he just stopped. He turned his head around and looked at me, as if uncertain, but we were in the middle of an empty road, this was NOTHING that he would ever normally be scared about, hes not that sort f dog...what dog is? So i comforted and re-assured him and laiughed not realising how much he meant it and carried on walking...he didnt follow. This wasnt normal, he just stood still. I went over to him and i have to admit i forced hima little for i could see no reason for him to be so freaked out. There was one point in the road that on NO account would he cross, he just pulled away and turned round and went back. i didnt continue to force him, if he didnt want to go he didnt want to go...bless...the thing is, that road is right next to a grave yard and i wonder if perhaps there is a connection and he was picking up on some ghostly static or whatevtre you call it. mmm...yeah, there we go.


nn23

Sorry took me so long to write. We rescued a boerboel (african mastiff) in shortly before Harley killed trooper. I don't know his full history although what I do know is a interesting one. Any way both folks that had him claim he wasn't abused by them but its apparent that he was he is thin and afraid of certain thing. He is far from as fearful as some animals we have taken. He is for some reason deathly afraid of the garage and the living room. I can't get him in no matter what I try. For such a great big dog he is very afraid. The boerboel at the same time is a blessing without him I would go crazy. I love all my dogs but this guy looks at me and knows. I have had him less then a month.
I have had one interesting thing happen a couple of times. The is a part of the yard inbetween the house and the garage that is fenced. Nothing can get in or out. I have seen a hairy white thing looking in the window. At first I thought I was seeing thing then my husband saw it as well. It looks solid like a persons head a tall person with the window height. Never see a face however. I don't know what it is there are no birds like it around here and nothing can get in that area unless the can jump over a 7 foot wooden fence.
My Dane/chow has been getting ill since we have been here and the vets can't seem to help him. He still growls at the wall and started growling at another one in the same room as well. I don't think its anything heard he is after or my blind dogs would act on it. He is one of my only seeing and hearing dogs I have the other is the boerboel and he will not even go in the room. And crys when he walks past it. Sometimes runs. Getting him out the front door can be a issue because its in the area he hates. He likes the bedroom and thats about it. We have six indoor dogs and when one reacts normally everyone does the same its not really the case here.
My husband checked the inside and outside of the house he found nothing. We got the lock changed on the front door and it still locks. I don't know what the deal is with that.
I do believe animals have a connection to the dead or close to death. My dogs knew when our puppy was going to pass on. I will never forget it. So did the puppy you could see it in his eyes he knew it. Dogs can pick up on so much cancer, earthquakes, rain storms, etc whats to say they can't pick up on a spirit. They cry when we walk past the graves of the dead animals here.
I am thinking of moving even though my husband will not more then likely I can't see having more animals leave over a damn house.
This house is interesting to me. The way I found it... was odd. I remember looking in the paper and calling about another house the same people had for rent. We desided we didn't want it. They told us about this one the womans sister forgot to place it in the paper for some reason and we took it. It was like we were suppose to move here. We were getting kicked out of our old place and had no choice. So why this place why did these things happen? It creeps me out to think about it some times. Within the short time we have lived here we have lost five dogs. Three from parvo two from the fight. Why? We treated the parvo dogs and the others had lots of training. They were seemenly normal animals. No one got ill or argued till we moved here.
I thought I knew my dogs till what happened happened. I treated them well and worked with them each and every day. They all got along well considering what they went through in the past.
I feel like I should have spoiled them more but I always feel I could have treated the people or animals I knew better. I guess its normal we all say and do things at times we never ment to do. I still break down and cry but I was able to hang some photos of them up. It helps a little.
If I can get a video camera I will tape them and post it. I have a camera on my phone but its worthless. There maybe one on our camera I will have to look at it.

fortunately everything you have described your dogs doing can be explained with basic k9 behavioral issues..nothing sounds out of the ordinary there.

I understand that to you it sounds normal but I know my animals and they never do anything like this. I have rescued dogs for the past five years. The boerboel maybe acting like he would in any home I don't know but not the others. You also can't tell me its NORMAL for a dog to kill another dog he has lived his entire life with!!!

Wow! I'm sorry to hear that things aren't going better.

This may sound odd but have you ever had experiences with ghosts or hauntings before? What do your senses tell you is going on do you feel that it is residual, left over bad emotions/impressions from an event that took place in the house or is it an active or rather interactive energy?

Sometimes an easy course of action is telling the entity in question that you are the new residence and that IF they behave themselves they can stay but if they don't they need to move. The hardest part is meaning it and standing your ground. You may be right about being led there, being there for a reason. Don't know what that is right now but.. I think that you are on the money with that statement.

Regards,
Mabon.

It does not sound normal to me. You know and your dogs know some thing is wrong you see it and you can feel it what more do you need. You are losing to many dogs in such a short period of time.......funny how this all started since you moved into that house. I would not hang around to much longer in this house something has givin you to many warnings what next?

Excellent post nn23

Yes, dogs can sense things human cannot. Here's a little something to read:

"Not known what dogs are responding to:
Even from far across a room, seizure-alert dogs seem to be able to pick up on extremely subtle physiological changes - minute alterations in odour or movement - that may begin anywhere from 45 to five or 10 minutes before an actual attack. "More research needs to be done," Arnold said. "We don't exactly know right now what the dogs are responding to."

But their ability to sense these changes for their owners can be invaluable, since early warning of a seizure's onset helps people with epilepsy find a safe environment or take precautionary measures.

The Labradors and retrievers trained by the experts at Alpharetta, Ga.-based Canine Assistants begin their 18 months of instruction at just 2 days of age, learning over 90 standard commands. More mysteriously, some protective measures seem to come to the dogs by instinct, Arnold said. For example, when sensing an oncoming seizure, "they tend to want their person to lie on the ground," she said. "

source

Sounds to me like Nugget was on to something as well, especially with the stubborn "no way I'm going there" type of response.

Take care luv, Jody


PS: VEGAN114 - can you find someone credible in your area to come check out your house? Might be a good start?

As far as pest control exam of the house my husband is one of the best in the southwest he is really well know has is own company, books, DVD, and writes for several papers in and out of state. Can't get much better then that. I don't think anyway... He looked for mice and bugs and found nothing.
If your talking about someone looking for spirits I don't know of anyone is there a website I can look into that for?
I haven't had anything paranormal happen to me except when I was a teen with a talking board. And from time to time I have had the so called "old hag attacks". Now I can sence if a animal or person is not well but I think that is because I am connected with them. As far as the energy in the house it feels very bad at times other times nothing at all. I know some of it is because I feel upset and jumpy. When things are happening that are bad it feels very interactive.

I meant spirits this time not animals! LOL! I know that I've asked and you and your husband looked and found no signs of animal/bug infestation.
I didn't mean anything personal by asking those questions nor did I mean to be dismissive in earlier posts about asking you to check for termites to rodents. A lot of normal occurrences are sometimes misidentified as paranormal when they are really mundane causes. But if there are no mice, etc then you kind of have to go on to the next thing.

I was asking if you were getting flashes of insight about your home other than the reactions to the dogs. Don't get me wrong, animals do sense things that we don't. (As I said earlier our cats found termites.) I have also seen our dog react to two people violently and he was the biggest pacifist puppy ever. Until those two I had never seen him react to anyone other than being friendly. I trusted his instincts about them especially because he was such a friendly gentle dog. The same with our cats. If they don't like you well.... you're pretty much not going to hang out in our space for long.


Cleansing in the sense that I use now is of a spiritual nature not physical. I don't know your religious background and it's really none of my business, but as I suggested earlier you might want to have a blessing done for your home and you. Most local persons of the cloth will do it for you.

If you feel uncomfortable with that you can do it yourself but (there's always a but isn't there) you must be FIRM in your intentions and not waver. I don't mean it has to be a serious/scary undertaking but it's like training a dog. The dog knows when you mean the command/request.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=h...amp;btnG=Search This is a main page to several sites that have house blessings.
It can be simple or as complex as you feel comfortable with.


I am also surprised that there was no history on the area, or in particular your home. If you know the owners name a copy of the deed should be on record at the court house or a history of the area in the library. When we bought our house we could then research all the owners in the genealogy section of the library. I know that you don't own the home but are renting, still the deed is a matter of public record and (for example) if there was an accidental death or death in/near the home it should also be a matter of public record. If you didn't try this the last time you went to the library and are still interested in finding the cause for the disturbance you might just tell the library attendant that you are new to the area and would like to know the local history, in particular your home.. It's worth a shot.. I know our library attendants live for that and once you've started them it's more difficult to get them to stop!

Also as was suggested earlier you could take photos of the areas that (and especially when) the dogs or yourself become alerted to. Even just a disposable camera will sometimes capture things our eyes miss. Digital cameras or video too can be an invaluable tool for paranormal research. It may feel silly to do this but it isn't. The same with the house blessing. If you feel more comfortable and in control of your surroundings then your dogs and the rest of your family will too.

Hope you keep us updated.
Regards,
Mabon.

All im saying is .. cover ALL the rational explanations before calling "ghost hunters" or something to that effect..which is what i assume your hinting at...yeah im pretty sure ghosts aint your problem.

keep in mind dog psychology is COMPLETELY different to humans, so dont try to figure out your dogs issues using human psychology/logic.. never ever ever works and just succeeds in frustrating and confusing your dog further. I applaud the fact you rescue dogs but that by no means suggests you understand the dog mind any better than the next person.
i would suggest calling a dog behavioral expert.... that is the best piece of advice you are going to get on this message board.. perhaps not the most romantic or exciting.. but probably the best.

good luck

I don't know what I was expecting with all this but its not helped and its making me feel worse. I desided last night that its not worth staying here after all that has gone on. This will be my last post take care everyone.

I read some of the posts here and i really think most of them make sense.Stuff in the walls can make animals act weird.But than again it could be haunting.You should try talking to the spirit through a sikick or something.Having a priest bless your house is a pretty good idea,do some other research on how to get rid of the spirit and try it.Really sorry about your dogs.Have a nice spook-free day

Okay,I just edited my post,cuz i think i am very stupid and should have read the last post from vegan114

vegan114 I think leaving that house is I think the best thing to do for you and your husband and your dogs. I wish you well and hope you do post again just to let us all know how things are going. Take care.

vegan114 I think leaving that house is I think the best thing to do for you and your husband and your dogs. I wish you well and hope you do post again just to let us all know how things are going. Take care.

vegan114 I think leaving that house is I think the best thing to do for you and your husband and your dogs. I wish you well and hope you do post again just to let us all know how things are going. Take care.

UUGGGHHH! SORRY FOR THE 3 POST AGAIN.

Just to accentuate what a few others have said here - dogs can certainly HEAR things that we can't and they certainly can SMELL
thins we can't. They can hear a wider range of frequencies, especially very high pitched frequencies (think dog whisltes) and of course their noses work a lot better than ours (think bloodhounds). Their sight, however, is inferior to ours. They are colorblind and the processing power of their visual systme just isn't up to par with ours. I have heard stories about and seen dogs growling and barking at nothing in particular several times in my life and have tended to just think that the dog's hearing a mouse in the wall, or a squirrel just outside the wall, or the dog smells another dog's odor on something.