Threepwud
Jun 28 2007, 11:02 PM
http://www.consumptionjunction.com/downloadsnew/cj_70429.wmvI have linked straight to the file so as not to show the adult content the site may contain.
RollingThunder06
Jun 29 2007, 04:10 AM
Cannot comment on the true nature of this video since I am far from being an expert. Am wondering though why they felt it necessary to put his face into an animation form when he is on the floor? As far as the fingers and toe spreading like that, mine do that almost on a daily basis by themselves. lol It is interesting on how many of these types of videos are now appearing. Thank you for sharing!
Thozzman
Jun 29 2007, 06:03 AM
That's good news for exorcists.
They have enough work with radical Muslim fundamentalists to keep them busy for a thousand years.
Violet_Blue
Jun 29 2007, 06:31 AM
That was scary...
Wish I knew what they were saying... what was he spraying on him?
EmpressStarXVII
Jun 29 2007, 07:03 AM
It would have been good to listen to if there wasn't any special effects added to it, like the deamonic growl and laughter. The only thing that I could make out what the guy was saying was "Bislillah al-rahman al-rahim" In the name of Allah, most beneficial, most merciful and "insha'allah" god willing.
So I imagine he was saying God willing they will get rid of the deamons lol.
Maybe he was spraying some type of holy water on him? lol. I think that is a crucial part of exorcism.
Blueguardian
Jun 29 2007, 07:15 AM
QUOTE(Violet_Blue @ Jun 29 2007, 04:31 PM)

That was scary...
Wish I knew what they were saying... what was he spraying on him?
i believe he was spraying holy water on him, it is said to cause the demon or spirit pain, but that exorcism was just weird in my opinion normally it takes 2-3 people to hold them down maybe the holy water weakoned him and the guy who was possessed helped to control it but it was weird because after it they just sat down. strange
bluelight
Jun 29 2007, 10:54 AM
which country was it from?
Threepwud
Jun 29 2007, 11:37 AM
Unfortunately there was no information posted with this video other than a title similar to my own.
And no user comments either which are generally handy for videos like this!
Still, the sounds effects and deep growls (if not real, of course) make you wonder why they were added. Shows how perhaps all of these exorcisms maybe your subconscious mind and the talk of God making you stronger helps the conscious mind to come forward and resume control? That makes sense though of course it probably doesn't count for levitations and other reported happenings.
silentkiller
Jun 29 2007, 01:38 PM
Yes thats how they do a muslim exorcism, but how he got up like nothing happened is sorta weird

. They were reciting verses or surahs of the holy book (quran) these recitings is the main thing to get rid of the demon and is crucial for the exorcism.
Please Explain
Jun 29 2007, 02:03 PM
When they get up like nothing happens is not weird, that's normal to exorcism.
That exorcist was stronger than the one possesing the person, so there's no need to hold the victim.
Holy water and prayer was only an aid but the real power lies on the exorcist.
I saw it genuine !
goalienan
Jun 29 2007, 02:25 PM
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jun 29 2007, 02:03 PM)

When they get up like nothing happens is not weird, that's normal to exorcism.
That exorcist was stronger than the one possesing the person, so there's no need to hold the victim.
Holy water and prayer was only an aid but the real power lies on the exorcist.
I saw it genuine !
Please Explain, I'm definitely not questioning you, but did this look real...To me it looked very staged, but fortunately I've never seen on in person....
Barek Halfhand
Jun 29 2007, 02:34 PM
QUOTE(Thozzman @ Jun 29 2007, 01:03 AM)

That's good news for exorcists.
They have enough work with radical Muslim fundamentalists to keep them busy for a thousand years.
Radical Muslim fundamentalism
is a form of possession ....and every bit as evil

.....they remind me of rabid dogs, much the way ther man in the video is behaving.....the voice distortions are unnerving, especial when he starts screaming in a female sounding voice

......B
halfhandshuffle:Soil - halo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXswwStIQEI
Please Explain
Jun 29 2007, 02:47 PM
QUOTE(goalienan @ Jun 29 2007, 02:25 PM)

Please Explain, I'm definitely not questioning you, but did this look real...To me it looked very staged, but fortunately I've never seen on in person....

When you watch possession, you could see a certain sign specially if you have experiences on this thing. Hard to explain but you know well your enemy wherever you go. I suggest if you heard something about demonic possession, go there and observe. You'll learn a lot.
goalienan
Jun 29 2007, 03:30 PM
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jun 29 2007, 02:47 PM)

When you watch possession, you could see a certain sign specially if you have experiences on this thing. Hard to explain but you know well your enemy wherever you go. I suggest if you heard something about demonic possession, go there and observe. You'll learn a lot.
Yes, I would know my enemy, but we don't have too much of the paranormal around here for me to observe...I'll just continue reading about it...Thanks...goalie
Thozzman
Jun 29 2007, 03:36 PM
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jun 29 2007, 10:34 AM)

Radical Muslim fundamentalism
is a form of possession ....and every bit as evil

.....they remind me of rabid dogs, much the way ther man in the video is bahaving.....the voice distortions are unnerving, especial when he starts screaming in a female sounding voice

......B
halfhandshuffle:Soil - halo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXswwStIQEICouldn't agree more B.
F-16 Falcon
Jun 29 2007, 03:45 PM
Sorry, but I think this man was suffering from neurological/psychological problems... I'm rather skeptical on the whole "demonic possession" concept.
Please Explain
Jun 29 2007, 03:59 PM
QUOTE(goalienan @ Jun 29 2007, 03:30 PM)

Yes, I would know my enemy, but we don't have too much of the paranormal around here for me to observe...I'll just continue reading about it...Thanks...goalie
Only few people are born to witness this thing all the time.
It don't make them expert or know it all. They always understand why people don't believe it.
Primeval
Jun 29 2007, 04:14 PM
What does this say about religion? If both methods work, than that would mean that both religions are right?
How is that possible?
Please Explain
Jun 29 2007, 04:22 PM
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jun 29 2007, 04:14 PM)

What does this say about religion? If both methods work, than that would mean that both religions are right?
How is that possible?
Well...a lot of people really don't know anything about this thing.
This is not a belief ! religion wasn't involved.
Please Explain
Jun 29 2007, 04:25 PM
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jun 29 2007, 03:45 PM)

Sorry, but I think this man was suffering from neurological/psychological problems... I'm rather skeptical on the whole "demonic possession" concept.
Here's a lesson for you AB.
You don't have to believe this.
Try to get an exorcist to go with you in mental asylum.
Exorcize the crazy people in there and see if you can get a result like that of the video.
Threepwud
Jun 29 2007, 04:25 PM
Well don't Muslims believe in the same religion as Christians?
Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel... Heck they even believe in Jesus but as a prophet and not the son of God.
Thozzman
Jun 29 2007, 04:48 PM
QUOTE(Threepwud @ Jun 29 2007, 12:25 PM)

Well don't Muslims believe in the same religion as Christians?
Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel... Heck they even believe in Jesus but as a prophet and not the son of God.
Muslims hate Christians. They consider Christians Infidels, and their goal is to kill ALL who do not conform to their religion.
So, no they are far from being the same, although the haters on here will argue that point.
Threepwud
Jun 29 2007, 04:54 PM
Sure there are differences (the new testament is not believed in Muslim communities) so they are not the same in that respect. As for them wanting to kill all who are not precisely conforming to their POV, well that's not something I will comment on.
Certainly not all Muslims believe that they must kill everyone else!!
bluelight
Jun 30 2007, 02:34 AM
QUOTE(Threepwud @ Jun 29 2007, 04:25 PM)

Well don't Muslims believe in the same religion as Christians?
Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel... Heck they even believe in Jesus but as a prophet and not the son of God.
do your homework before posting this. Islam is the same as Christianity but they have a different road (heck even christians have like at least 3 beliefs in their own system)
They believe in the same god. Their holy book state believes in Adam and Eve, Cain and abel but in a differrent name sheesh. they believe in the same heavn and hell. what's wrong with people? why don't they just respect others people's belief? Don't diss other people's religion, if you even know their religion and expect them to respect you when you don't respect them
Shankpin
Jun 30 2007, 05:56 AM
I've seen a few genuine Islamic exorcisms on film, and if this is the one I'm thinking ( I haven't had time to see it specifically) it's real.
* yea just viewed it, that's one of them. It's a lot shorter than the one I saw last year, but it's one of the few.
Regency
Jun 30 2007, 10:01 AM
I didn't watch it all, I found it quite disturbing. I'm not saying I believe it was real or that it was fake, I know so little on this subject it's difficult for me to comment on.
One thing that bugs me that they play some kind of horror movie music over it?
Threepwud
Jun 30 2007, 01:48 PM
QUOTE(bluelight @ Jun 30 2007, 03:34 AM)

do your homework before posting this. Islam is the same as Christianity but they have a different road (heck even christians have like at least 3 beliefs in their own system)
They believe in the same god. Their holy book state believes in Adam and Eve, Cain and abel but in a differrent name sheesh. they believe in the same heavn and hell. what's wrong with people? why don't they just respect others people's belief? Don't diss other people's religion, if you even know their religion and expect them to respect you when you don't respect them
That's exactly what I was saying and I am not 'dissing' any one's religion here! I think you must have taken what I was saying wayyy out of context.
As for 'homework' well it was Muslims that told me!
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jun 30 2007, 03:46 PM
This video is hillarious. Is it me or did this demon make the guy gay?lol
Primeval
Jun 30 2007, 03:50 PM
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jun 30 2007, 08:46 AM)

This video is hillarious. Is it me or did this demon make the guy gay?lol
That would explain why the catholic church doesn't like gays "CAUSE THEIR DEMONS!!!" (jk)
Tenkay
Jun 30 2007, 06:50 PM
ahhh nothing extrotionary happened in this video, and personally i think the guy is acting
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jun 30 2007, 07:15 PM
QUOTE(Tenkay @ Jun 30 2007, 01:50 PM)

ahhh extrotionary happened in this video, and personally i think the guy is acting
Huh. Did you mean extrodinary? If yes, why would it be so if the guy is acting?
EmpressStarXVII
Jun 30 2007, 09:58 PM
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jun 29 2007, 12:14 PM)

What does this say about religion? If both methods work, than that would mean that both religions are right?
How is that possible?
I think there are more than two or three religions that exorcise deamons.
coldethyl
Jul 2 2007, 06:32 PM
Well I can't see the darn thing.
Tenkay
Jul 3 2007, 12:33 AM
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jun 30 2007, 03:15 PM)

Huh. Did you mean extraordinary? If yes, why would it be so if the guy is acting?
its funny you want an explanation for this foolishness, but you try to debunk every ufo case when all this information points too alien life forms.
why couldn't he act, ive seen this done several times in all sorts of religions/cults
Jennie 1
Jul 3 2007, 03:42 AM
I've only watched the video and haven't read any replies.
I found the video, well, kinda funny.
Sorry!
If that's the best that satan can do,then I'm pretty sure we have nothing to fear.
I recently witnessed an exorcism, which was much more dramatic, and yet it was no more frightening than this one.
almcdaniel
Jul 3 2007, 03:51 AM
QUOTE(Blueguardian @ Jun 29 2007, 03:15 AM)

i believe he was spraying holy water on him, it is said to cause the demon or spirit pain, but that exorcism was just weird in my opinion normally it takes 2-3 people to hold them down maybe the holy water weakoned him and the guy who was possessed helped to control it but it was weird because after it they just sat down. strange
Demon....more like Schizophrenia. Take 2 Zyprexa and call me in the morning! The voice sounds like they were dubed in! So fake!
Mordfabrik
Jul 10 2007, 06:58 PM
wtf the link doesnt workkkkkk :'(
Ganryu
Jul 11 2007, 11:58 AM
If it were video taped, then it was fake. In possession cases, ALL demonic possessions that are recorded are never released to the public. This is the word of the Catholic church and the Arch Decies...dunno if I spelled that right. There are a lot of hoax videos out there, and even tho i've not seen this one, i'm pretty sure that it is one.
Please Explain
Jul 11 2007, 03:08 PM
QUOTE(Ganryu @ Jul 11 2007, 11:58 AM)

If it were video taped, then it was fake. In possession cases, ALL demonic possessions that are recorded are never released to the public. This is the word of the Catholic church and the Arch Decies...dunno if I spelled that right. There are a lot of hoax videos out there, and even tho i've not seen this one, i'm pretty sure that it is one.
OMG ! you should see it, and also read the topic title.
How can you judge something that you don't know?
Ganryu
Jul 12 2007, 05:37 AM
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 11 2007, 08:08 AM)

OMG ! you should see it, and also read the topic title.
How can you judge something that you don't know?
First off, I happen to believe a lot of things that most would think the same about. Secondly, if it's been recorded and put on the web, it is fake. Were you there when this took place? Were you holding the video camera? I'm no skeptic I assure you, but there's just sometimes when you've got to draw the line on some things. And basing this from my common knowledge of Exorcisms in general, to me it seems to be fake. I could be wrong, or I could be right. But until there is evidence that says otherwise, it is fake to me. Thats how I can judge something that I do know.
Also, I did give the video a look over, and to me, that looked fake. Even with all the voice projections and what not, it still didn't impress me. Sorry, but on this one, I have to go with my gut.
Please Explain
Jul 12 2007, 06:50 PM
QUOTE(Ganryu @ Jul 12 2007, 05:37 AM)

First off, I happen to believe a lot of things
You believe it or not, i don't care.
I was trying to tell you it's Islamic exorcism and not Catholic.
So you're an exorcist isn't it? or maybe not because you use the word "it seems to me"
I just wanna say straightaway it's real because i know my enemy in any angle.
I don't need to analyse it.
Barek Halfhand
Jul 12 2007, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(Ganryu @ Jul 11 2007, 06:58 AM)

If it were video taped, then it was fake. In possession cases, ALL demonic possessions that are recorded are never released to the public. This is the word of the Catholic church and the Arch Decies...dunno if I spelled that right. There are a lot of hoax videos out there, and even tho i've not seen this one, i'm pretty sure that it is one.

I don't know where to start! ......B
Ganryu
Jul 15 2007, 12:06 PM
Alright Please Explain, so it's islamic, still doesn't make it real dude, at least to me anyways man, I dunno about you though. And Barek, not trying to start anything, but I would like to know what you have to say.
Please Explain
Jul 15 2007, 01:11 PM
QUOTE(Ganryu @ Jul 15 2007, 12:06 PM)

Alright Please Explain, so it's islamic, still doesn't make it real dude,
How do you know?
Ganryu
Jul 15 2007, 04:05 PM
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 15 2007, 06:11 AM)

How do you know?
You saw that I said, "At least to me anyways man" right? I don't care if YOU believe it or not, to ME its fake. Read and make sure you understand what I just said. I said "TO ME IT'S FAKE". Don't take things out of context, thats not becoming, and it shows me that you want to start a long and drawn out annoying debate, which I honestly don't want to take part of. Now again, so it's islamic, still doesn't make it real dude, at least to me anyways man, I don't know about you though.
Wanna start nit picking, find someone else who really cares that much.
KBA
Jul 15 2007, 04:11 PM
I'd have to postulate that this video is absolutely fake.
Am I supposed to take a video seriously that adds demonic scream and moan soundbytes to the recording of an exorcism?
mrnroman
Jul 15 2007, 05:05 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm, calling this one way fake. Probably because demons don't exist, but aside from my biased reasoning, there is another. With all claims (especially with the "paranormal") we should be using Occams Razor. Which essentially states that the simplest solution is the most probable. We need not invoke anything supernatural with this case in particular. Natural explanations are more than adequate for this video.
1) What would be the point of such a video? Perhaps to further someones personal agenda, namely religion in this particular case.
2) Could the "possessed" have been acting? Absolutely YES!!
3) Have such fakes happened before? Many many times over, and for the reason stated in #1.
4) The cheesy sound and video effects are a dead giveaway.
So, no this is definitely not a demon possession. But as a fun experiment you (any of us) could make our own demon possession videos and put them on youtube. See how many people actually believe in your video.
D
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Jul 15 2007, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(Tenkay @ Jul 2 2007, 07:33 PM)

its funny you want an explanation for this foolishness, but you try to debunk every ufo case when all this information points too alien life forms.
why couldn't he act, ive seen this done several times in all sorts of religions/cults
I can't follow your post.
Please Explain
Jul 17 2007, 02:09 AM
QUOTE(Ganryu @ Jul 15 2007, 04:05 PM)

so it's islamic,
Yes, that's all i want to say thanks.
Please Explain
Jul 17 2007, 02:11 AM
QUOTE(KBA @ Jul 15 2007, 04:11 PM)

Am I supposed to take a video seriously that adds demonic scream and moan soundbytes to the recording of an exorcism?
I used to place sound effects on videos i'm editing.
It's just normal but it doesn't mean it's fake.
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