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Bogeyman
Okay ...Ya got to say that the Concept and design of this Crop circle has got to have come from a human mind ...But as a piece of Artwork and design ...It's well worth a look.....It must have taken ages to do it

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/we...ennett2007.html


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Mabon
Hi Bogeyman!

It is pretty! But I wish that the 'hoaxers' would quit with the monkey shines. It makes it harder to find evidence of the real events and has got to be a pain for the farmers! I mean I'd be cheesed off if I spent all that work to plant and then some dipstick decided to doodle in my field.

Regards,
Mabon.
bluelight
I agree with the above poster. It's really annoying. Great art and all but sheesh, cut the farmers some slack damit it's not easy to raise crops and it's hard enough to go through researching the subject with them hoaxes piling up >.>

get some paper to draw on dammit
Bogeyman
What i can't understand is that in Wiltshire it's a shoe in that if you've got fields with crops ....someone's gonna put something there at some stage ...why cant they be caught on camera ?
Also why do they stay so quiet about it .....does anyone know any circlemakers ?. They never seem to appear on sites like this and claim credit for their work, especially since it's sites like this where their work is most admired or critiqued hmm.gif
bluelight
QUOTE(Bogeyman @ Jun 29 2007, 11:19 AM) *
What i can't understand is that in Wiltshire it's a shoe in that if you've got fields with crops ....someone's gonna put something there at some stage ...why cant they be caught on camera ?
Also why do they stay so quiet about it .....does anyone know any circlemakers ?. They never seem to appear on sites like this and claim credit for their work, especially since it's sites like this where their work is most admired or critiqued hmm.gif

cause they don't wanna be charge with vandalism, trasspassing, destroying properties i guess
Mabon
I agree with the above poster Bluelight. I do think that a few farmers in their fields watching might clear out a few of the hoaxers. That and if I were one of the farmers whose crops were being destroyed if I caught the little devils doing it I would ask the judge to make them work it off at the farm and fields they vandalized until the debt was paid off! That would make a few hoaxers squirm and leave the fields open (all humor intended!) for the 'real' phenomenon to hopefully take place.

Regards Y'all,
Mabon.
F-16 Falcon
That looks like it was made in Photoshop. blink.gif
STIX
I like how its 3-d, very cool! It is a hallway with tile floor, 6 open doors and flourescent lights!
rezna
QUOTE(STIX @ Jun 29 2007, 08:46 AM) *
I like how its 3-d, very cool! It is a hallway with tile floor, 6 open doors and flourescent lights!


Your right, that is it, nice!

I so feel super bad for farmers. Funny how this only happens in England and we never hear about it in America. Oh wait! That's because we don't have farmers anymore!
Shadow_Wolf
QUOTE(bluelight @ Jun 29 2007, 12:24 PM) *
cause they don't wanna be charge with vandalism, trasspassing, destroying properties i guess

Crop circles/formations have been around in the UK for over 20 years now; as yet only 1 person has ever been prosecuted for trespass and willful damage...
Ryo Ohki
I think there was one in Michigan a few years ago but I think it was just a circle. It was in Howell.
Blackwhite
QUOTE
Okay ...Ya got to say that the Concept and design of this Crop circle has got to have come from a human mind


How? If an advanced extraterrestrial civilisation, probably thousands of years more advanced than us, are trying to contact the human race then surely they'd be able to come up with that design.
Blackwhite
QUOTE(Mabon @ Jun 29 2007, 11:53 AM) *
Hi Bogeyman!

It is pretty! But I wish that the 'hoaxers' would quit with the monkey shines. It makes it harder to find evidence of the real events and has got to be a pain for the farmers! I mean I'd be cheesed off if I spent all that work to plant and then some dipstick decided to doodle in my field.

Regards,
Mabon.


How do you know which crop circles are real and which are fake?
Blackwhite
QUOTE(Bogeyman @ Jun 29 2007, 12:19 PM) *
What i can't understand is that in Wiltshire it's a shoe in that if you've got fields with crops ....someone's gonna put something there at some stage ...why cant they be caught on camera ?


Maybe because people aren't drawing them.

There was a famous video from a few years ago that showed two silver objects moving around erratically over a field in Southern England. The next day, a crop circle was found in that exact spot. If I find it I'll post the link.

I read in a book written by a top French crop circle researcher who believes that they are the results of an experiment by the British military of a hi-tech weapon and they are firing it at crops.

And several videos show British military helicopters hovering above them - http://www.webmesh.co.uk/overlord/crop.html

Crop Circles: Military use of a microwave laser beam cannon - http://www.ovnis.atfreeweb.com/5_crop_circles.htm

The cause of most crop circles? The British military. It's also explains why Wiltshire has around as many cropc circles each year as the rest of the world put together.
Shadow_Wolf
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jun 29 2007, 09:50 PM) *
Maybe because people aren't drawing them.

There was a famous video from a few years ago that showed two silver objects moving around erratically over a field in Southern England. The next day, a crop circle was found in that exact spot. If I find it I'll post the link.


The 'famous' Oliver's Castle video you refer to is a known and confirmed hoax! Oddly enough one of the perpetrators was/is also the only person to be prosecuted for trespass and willful damage wink2.gif
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jun 29 2007, 09:47 PM) *
How? If an advanced extraterrestrial civilisation, probably thousands of years more advanced than us, are trying to contact the human race then surely they'd be able to come up with that design.


more to the point, why would an advanced civiliation that can travel across vast distances come all the way here just to doodle in our wheat? think about it.
bluelight
QUOTE(Shadow_Wolf @ Jun 29 2007, 07:15 PM) *
Crop circles/formations have been around in the UK for over 20 years now; as yet only 1 person has ever been prosecuted for trespass and willful damage...

have you seen the size of major agriculture farms? have you seen the height of corn plants at least? It's physically could hide you from any watch unless farmers could invest alot of cctv from hide poles to cover at every 10 feet and every 360 degree angle.

Jjbreen
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jun 29 2007, 01:47 PM) *
How? If an advanced extraterrestrial civilisation, probably thousands of years more advanced than us, are trying to contact the human race then surely they'd be able to come up with that design.

The point is - Why wouldn't "aliens" come up with their own designs and artwork - why would they take something that is easily created by man and human computers? In fact this design is actually not that complicated to do w/even a low end computer.

I would think that ET/Aliens would have some creative artwork of their own.... not something that is easily found on the internet w/no issues at all.
bluelight
i like to see them aliens use trees and do some tree circles so nobody could hoax them lol
isis-999
This is one of the nicer circle's i have seen, But there more online that are alot more complex believe it or not.....It does make you wonder how a person could do this in just a few hour's if it is a hoax.....
bluelight
i doubt One person would do it. but a group, yeah O.o i remember a a tv episode where a group of students created a crop circle in just a few hours. They even admit doing it all. BUT. they never answer one question. about that one night where crop circles appeared in the same time (i forgot when) all over the world. How could they do admit to doing all of that, unless they set up a "date" with their friends from points of the world.

but i really hope hoaxers stop hoaxing and get some other materials instead to play with.
Shadow_Wolf
QUOTE(bluelight @ Jun 30 2007, 03:48 AM) *
have you seen the size of major agriculture farms? have you seen the height of corn plants at least? It's physically could hide you from any watch unless farmers could invest alot of cctv from hide poles to cover at every 10 feet and every 360 degree angle.

As I live in rural England I am fully aware of agriculture, farming and the vigilance of farmers here. You miss the point that despite many people either claiming to have made formations, or having been seen or caught making formations, only one person has ever been prosecuted.

QUOTE(bluelight @ Jun 30 2007, 03:57 AM) *
i like to see them aliens use trees and do some tree circles so nobody could hoax them lol

Tree circles were known and investigated in the 1980s and 1990s.
Please Explain
QUOTE(isis-999 @ Jun 30 2007, 03:06 AM) *
This is one of the nicer circle's i have seen, But there more online that are alot more complex believe it or not.....It does make you wonder how a person could do this in just a few hour's if it is a hoax.....
I think 4 trucks have done it.
Each one done a quarter.
Mabon
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jun 29 2007, 04:48 PM) *
How do you know which crop circles are real and which are fake?

Hello Blackwhite,
Honestly I don't for certain. Since I don't live where they happen and don't see a chance of getting there anytime soon. But just going by the pictures of crop circles and reading that crop circles have been written about since the middle ages and none of those were this complex it doesn't fit the pattern.
The only way to determine which ones are of unknown origin and which are man made are to check for radiation and the cellular change of the plant material that has been observed in some crop circle formations. In the ones that appear genuine of of unknown origin those traits are present.
This one seems to be a image of the inside of the barrow that it is next to, (that sets off my first alarm bell) Well..... and to be honest, while it's very pretty it's also kind of cheesy. Like the alien head crop circle. That one was cheesy too and seemed a hoax (at least to me) If it is a natural phenomena like wind creating it would just be circular, if it is something else creating it (other than humans) why then is it so much like a human art piece if it wasn't made by a human? But I should have respected Bogyman's thred better and have expressed this earlier. Sorry for that Bogyman my bad! That's what I get for posting without enough coffee first thing. LOL!

For what it's worth I don't think/feel/believe that all crop circles are made by human hands/feet or by human intervention. Yet it is very vexing when you want to know what it is, without the hoaxers making it difficult for the event to be taken seriously, by creating frivolous things in someone's fields and ruining a good portion of the farmers crop.

QUOTE(Shadow_Wolf @ Jun 29 2007, 11:30 PM) *
As I live in rural England I am fully aware of agriculture, farming and the vigilance of farmers here. You miss the point that despite many people either claiming to have made formations, or having been seen or caught making formations, only one person has ever been prosecuted.
Tree circles were known and investigated in the 1980s and 1990s.


Hello Shadow Wolf, I have a question about your statement. Are you hinting that no one wants to prosecute (meaning enjoying the limelight/attention) or can't? Or something else.

Regards Y'all,
Mabon.
louie
Do they only appear in that specfic area, or have tey appeared anywhere else in the world.
chemical-licker
we've got to wait and see who done this, what wacky bunch of students created this master piece. I can see them their in the corner snivelling to themselves "they all think aliens done it, he he he"
Please Explain
I guess they don't do it one night.
They put marker sticks first then do it on the final night.
Jjbreen
I went over to the University of Washington and asked a couple of prof. of the engineer deptartment and how they would do something like this? They stated that actually it would be that hard - for engineering students. They talked me through it and I won't try to post it on here - but w/computer technology and remote control and such in the state that they are, and I quote: It would be hard to do something like this and with the right technology - it could easily be done in 1/2 a night w/the right equipment. In fact they stated that it would be easy to do since mid 1990's w/available technology.
Please Explain
Ye i know but this one looks like a trucks had run into it.
Please Explain
The best thing we can do is to ban crop circles on the forums.
They are vandals.
remnar
Looking at some of the images, I have a theory but I don't know the extent of any truth on it. Heraldry: a form of sorcery that applies a will onto a material using specific symbols and designs grafted into the material. So maybe someone is using heraldry to change something with the food supply or the earth.
Affliction
I've always wondered do these 'crop circles' destroy the plant being grown in th crop?
bluelight
QUOTE(Affliction @ Jul 2 2007, 02:37 PM) *
I've always wondered do these 'crop circles' destroy the plant being grown in th crop?

I recalled some frustrations in some articles where the the farmers said yes. they can't regrow crops on some crop circles either
Gridkeeper
Here are some short videos of some of the 2007 crop circles. www.youtube.com/gridkeeper
Shadow_Wolf
In a 2-page article in the Daily Express of 7 July* at least two known hoaxers are stating they were responsible for the making of this formation, and were upset that their handiwork had been destroyed - the farmer cut the pattern out last weekend.

* Online version not (yet) available.
bluelight
QUOTE(Shadow_Wolf @ Jul 8 2007, 11:07 AM) *
In a 2-page article in the Daily Express of 7 July* at least two known hoaxers are stating they were responsible for the making of this formation, and were upset that their handiwork had been destroyed - the farmer cut the pattern out last weekend.

* Online version not (yet) available.

upset???!! UPSET???!!!! in what grounds they have the right ot be upset??! They ruined people's crops and they are upset?!! SO it's oay to ruin people's property but it's not okay to ruin their "creation". typical spoiled brat kids!

i'm sorry, people like these should be humiliated and flog in public imo >.>
Shinobi
QUOTE(remnar @ Jul 2 2007, 02:14 AM) *
Looking at some of the images, I have a theory but I don't know the extent of any truth on it. Heraldry: a form of sorcery that applies a will onto a material using specific symbols and designs grafted into the material. So maybe someone is using heraldry to change something with the food supply or the earth.



actually that begs alot more discussion than you might think.


check this out...

this is the letter from " Issac"( a retired supposed researcher) giving an explaination of the " language" depicted in Photographs of the "Chad- drone" craft .

http://isaaccaret.fortunecity.com/


the Gist of it is this:
the language is a sort of " Living Code" that when applied to specific materials, acts as a computer program in a sense, without the need for hardware interpretation, and actually " cpommands" the material to perform a specific task.


could this possibly be what some of the crop circle images are doing.. "programming the Earth"?

just something to chatter about
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Mclane
QUOTE(Bogeyman @ Jun 29 2007, 11:33 AM) *
Okay ...Ya got to say that the Concept and design of this Crop circle has got to have come from a human mind ...But as a piece of Artwork and design ...It's well worth a look.....It must have taken ages to do it

And someone with a sense of humour who is a console gamer..

If I'm not mistaken its a part of the track in a level of the game Outrun from the arcades (or console if you are younger).

Made me giggle when I saw it....
Shadow_Wolf
QUOTE(bluelight @ Jul 8 2007, 05:02 AM) *
upset???!! UPSET???!!!! in what grounds they have the right ot be upset??! They ruined people's crops and they are upset?!! SO it's oay to ruin people's property but it's not okay to ruin their "creation". typical spoiled brat kids!

i'm sorry, people like these should be humiliated and flog in public imo >.>

Except of course when the farmers commission them to create the formations ;-) Think back to my earlier post; despite named persons claiming responsibility, and publicised campaigns by the famers and the NFU to prosecute for trespass and damage - only one person has ever been prosecuted for wilful damage to crops in the making of a formation...

There isn't much doubt that some farmers have commissioned formations to be created, then charged an entry fee for visiting croppies to view - HM Customs/Taxes have been interested in this practice!
stygeanhue
QUOTE(rezna @ Jun 29 2007, 10:29 AM) *
Your right, that is it, nice!

I so feel super bad for farmers. Funny how this only happens in England and we never hear about it in America. Oh wait! That's because we don't have farmers anymore!




Vacavile Ca, a few years back that I can recall, but heres a link to some good US cicle pics. FYI

http://cabiz.net/heartlink/us_crop_circle.htm
bluelight
QUOTE(Shadow_Wolf @ Jul 9 2007, 08:32 PM) *
Think back to my earlier post; despite named persons claiming responsibility, and publicised campaigns by the famers and the NFU to prosecute for trespass and damage - only one person has ever been prosecuted for wilful damage to crops in the making of a formation...

doubt it. like i said before. it's most probably because they are smart enough not to come forth so they won't be prosecuted. Not everybody is that vain tongue.gif
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