James890
Jun 29 2007, 11:34 AM
It's thanks to loonies such as the majority of members on this board.
About 80-90% of the threads here are laughable and if the posters' cheese hasn't slid off their cracker then they are clearly just wasting everyone's time on purpose and damaging the credibility of serious UFOlogy issues and discussion.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
Why don't they do us all a favour, leave their dark little bedrooms in mummies house, go outside and get some fresh air, and get a life.
Or are people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a ufo?
If you don't have anything realistic to post, then don't!
3pumps
Jun 29 2007, 11:41 AM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 12:34 PM)

It's thanks to loonies such as the majority of members on this board.
About 80-90% of the threads here are laughable and if the posters' cheese hasn't slid off their cracker then they are clearly just wasting everyone's time on purpose and damaging the credibility of serious UFOlogy issues and discussion.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
Why don't they do us all a favour, leave their dark little bedrooms in mummies house, go outside and get some fresh air, and get a life.
Or are people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a ufo?
If you don't have anything realistic to post, then don't!
Awww! Ikkle baaaaby wanna hug?
Stop whining, James. Folk post on these forums in the hope something will be explained or discussed in some way. I'm sorry your opinion on the forum is utterly pointless, not to mention low, but just remember, the forums are here for a reason - if you dont like it, then you know what you can do.. dont cha?
furioustiger
Jun 29 2007, 11:47 AM
Is this a thread about jamses pants being to tight?
James890
Jun 29 2007, 11:47 AM
Don't patronise me, and I'm not whining. I'm here because I want to read about realistic information on UFOs. It's so annoying when you read a thread like 'Finally, proof of aliens' only to find its a badly taken picture of a shooting star or a balloon.
3pumps
Jun 29 2007, 11:51 AM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 12:47 PM)

Don't patronise me, and I'm not whining. I'm here because I want to read about realistic information on UFOs. It's so annoying when you read a thread like 'Finally, proof of aliens' only to find its a badly taken picture of a shooting star or a balloon.
Please provide a link for your example.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 11:56 AM
Most of the links on here would prove my point. There's a new one about rods just been posted. 'rods' have been proved to be the way the speed of the shutter captures images on camera.
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 11:57 AM
Man, cool down, you may blow a vein in your brain!
Now serious… I understand what you say and I agree, unfortunately there more fake ufos being shown today than real research on the field and because of fake images being spread like a virus on the net people are getting more skeptic about Ufos and Extra-terrestrial life.
I love space and I am 100% sure that there is life somewhere else on the universe. But before I say: “WOW, that a UFO picture, no doubt!!” I rather use logic and common sense and analyze it. Unfortunately, only a few images and cases catch my attention cause the majority is BS some nerd with a lot of time just disseminated on the net.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 12:05 PM
Thankyou! Actually it probably was a mistake posting this. Just needed to vent my frustration. Actually my pants are on too tight....
I only wish some posters would apply logic and common sense to some of the pictures and videos they find before posting them.
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 12:12 PM
QUOTE(3pumps @ Jun 29 2007, 08:41 AM)

Awww! Ikkle baaaaby wanna hug?
Stop whining, James. Folk post on these forums in the hope something will be explained or discussed in some way. I'm sorry your opinion on the forum is utterly pointless, not to mention low, but just remember, the forums are here for a reason - if you dont like it, then you know what you can do.. dont cha?

No opinion is pointless as it’s a right of the OP share what he thinks as you just done right now. Your opinion is pointless for me or any other member who disagree with you? I don’t think so!
And he is right in the point he says that a lot of people are skeptic about UFOs cause there is too much crap and really less real thing on the net or any other media sources about this subject.
REBEL
Jun 29 2007, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 09:04 PM)

It's thanks to loonies such as the majority of members on this board.
About 80-90% of the threads here are laughable and if the posters' cheese hasn't slid off their cracker then they are clearly just wasting everyone's time on purpose and damaging the credibility of serious UFOlogy issues and discussion.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
Why don't they do us all a favour, leave their dark little bedrooms in mummies house, go outside and get some fresh air, and get a life.
Or are people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a ufo?
If you don't have anything realistic to post, then don't!
I said something along those lines but in a lot fewer words
here and man o man was i wrong
(my opinion on it hasn't changed though i still say it was a joke but it hit 500+ posts, go figure)
bluelight
Jun 29 2007, 12:18 PM
it's not their fault. we god damn find links to them stupid hoaxes out there and we just pul them links just to discuss if maybe, just maybe, this time it's a bingo
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 12:22 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 09:05 AM)

Thankyou! Actually it probably was a mistake posting this. Just needed to vent my frustration. Actually my pants are on too tight....
I only wish some posters would apply logic and common sense to some of the pictures and videos they find before posting them.
There is no mistake in post what you think buddy! Of course I think you exaggerated in your percentage about those who post here but you are right when you say that many people just swallow whatever is throw in front of them… And this sometimes can be annoying cause many posts people don’t even analyze what its actually posting. He/she just link to a photo on a host somewhere or another site with a report about a glowing thing in the picture and in the end, it was just a bug.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 12:24 PM
It's good to know there are some people here whose brains are in their heads.
bluelight
Jun 29 2007, 12:26 PM
plus i wish them poeple use the search button too!
REBEL
Jun 29 2007, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(Feanor @ Jun 29 2007, 09:52 PM)

And this sometimes can be annoying cause many posts people don’t even analyze what its actually posting.
Good point.
Do a little in depth reading or detailed personal analysis(never hurts)before posting or starting a thread.
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(bluelight @ Jun 29 2007, 09:26 AM)

plus i wish them poeple use the search button too!

LOL! Good point, i think there is about 4 threads on the chad drone thing by now. they all could be merged for the forums sake...
*EnIgMa*
Jun 29 2007, 12:34 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 07:34 AM)

It's thanks to loonies such as the majority of members on this board.
About 80-90% of the threads here are laughable and if the posters' cheese hasn't slid off their cracker then they are clearly just wasting everyone's time on purpose and damaging the credibility of serious UFOlogy issues and discussion.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
Why don't they do us all a favour, leave their dark little bedrooms in mummies house, go outside and get some fresh air, and get a life.
Or are people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a ufo?
If you don't have anything realistic to post, then don't!
Your frusteration is shared, rest assured. There are a few things, however, that you must realize before letting it bother you:
1.) Most of the 'loonies' on here are children.
2.) People like to exaggerate, and an internet forum provides a nice shield of anonymity, therefore a nice place for people to write things they normally wouldn't get caught dead saying. (it happens)
3.) A public place is meant for the public, not for a select amount of people who are actually serious about the topic... Sadly enough. If one of those is what you are looking for, I'm sure a few of us here would love to have some serious discussions off of the board.

4.) Proof will not be provided over an internet forum. It is a nice pipe-dream, but really nothing more... People need to get off that wagon -- it's not going anywhere.
5.) Instead of being irritated by the posters you speak of, laugh at them. Not in posts, of course, but hey, if someone says something rediculous (that happens aswell), sit back and have a good laugh. Humor is a major factor in keeping sanity here sometimes.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 12:39 PM
Good points. I do usually laugh them off. Must have wound me up too much. Must be those pants.
Cheers folks.
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 12:40 PM
QUOTE(*EnIgMa* @ Jun 29 2007, 09:34 AM)

Your frusteration is shared, rest assured. There are a few things, however, that you must realize before letting it bother you:
4.) Proof will not be provided over an internet forum. It is a nice pipe-dream, but really nothing more... People need to get off that wagon -- it's not going anywhere.
One of the best statements so far...
Internet is the last credible thing one can rely on.
bluelight
Jun 29 2007, 12:43 PM
QUOTE(Feanor @ Jun 29 2007, 12:40 PM)

One of the best statements so far...
Internet is the last credible thing one can rely on.
these days, we can't rely on anything at all unless we see it with our own eyes =/
too many photoshop and movie magics
Lt_Ripley
Jun 29 2007, 12:46 PM
actually I agree. all the nonsense and fringe take away from a legitimate debate. Is it no wonder people scoff ? From pictures of aliens that look like Gumby to the worship of Aliens ---- it's laughably sad.
Alienated Being
Jun 29 2007, 12:53 PM
Natural phenomena can be accounted for the sightings of UFOs, as can secret military aircraft and weather balloons. I do believe that a small percentage of UFOs spotted, however, are that of extraterrestrial intelligence. The government is hiding knowledge from us... that's almost a fact.
"Or are you people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a UFO?" <--- Well, technically speaking, if you cannot identify the air balloon upon first view, it's clearly unidentified. What else would be, since it's unidentified?
I think you need to re-read your post to see how absolutely ridiculous and immature you sound. By the way, just for the record, I live with both of my parents, seeing as I'm 17.

Not to mention, I go outside EVERY DAY, I have a job, and I spend lots of time with family and friends. Think about things before you say them, otherwise, they make you look like a fool.
QUOTE
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to stay on these boards. Seriously. Considering you have a life, I don't see the point in you being here at all, right?

- AB
Alienated Being
Jun 29 2007, 12:58 PM
What's really funny about this is that he tells us to get away from "mummy", and get a life.... yet, he's the one getting frustrated over some topics on these boards.
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 01:08 PM
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jun 29 2007, 09:53 AM)

Natural phenomena can be accounted for the sightings of UFOs, as can secret military aircraft and weather balloons. I do believe that a small percentage of UFOs spotted, however, are that of extraterrestrial intelligence. The government is hiding knowledge from us... that's almost a fact.
"Or are you people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a UFO?" <--- Well, technically speaking, if you cannot identify the air balloon upon first view, it's clearly unidentified. What else would be, since it's unidentified?
I think you need to re-read your post to see how absolutely ridiculous and immature you sound. By the way, just for the record, I live with both of my parents, seeing as I'm 17.

Not to mention, I go outside EVERY DAY, I have a job, and I spend lots of time with family and friends. Think about things before you say them, otherwise, they make you look like a fool.
If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to stay on these boards. Seriously. Considering you have a life, I don't see the point in you being here at all, right?

- AB
So, you just sad you have a life, WTH are you doing here too? Actually He may have not used the words in the best way but he have a point and is his right to post whatever he thinks so it can or cannot be shared by the other users.
I think everyone here has a life regardless of age and if the user has 2000 or 200 posts.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 01:54 PM
Alienated Being.... you've missed my point entirely. Perhaps when you get a bit older you'll understand and get out of this defensive 'know-it-all' attitude that teenagers often have.
Mr.Dot
Jun 29 2007, 01:56 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 01:34 PM)

It's thanks to loonies such as the majority of members on this board.
About 80-90% of the threads here are laughable and if the posters' cheese hasn't slid off their cracker then they are clearly just wasting everyone's time on purpose and damaging the credibility of serious UFOlogy issues and discussion.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
Why don't they do us all a favour, leave their dark little bedrooms in mummies house, go outside and get some fresh air, and get a life.
Or are people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a ufo?
If you don't have anything realistic to post, then don't!
If people would only post realistic videos then there would be very little to discuss if you ask me. And then people would get bored. If you dont like it here then i recommend you to stop using this one or find another forum that is more realistic and matches your taste better. You cant expect everyone to just obey you for your personal taste.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 02:04 PM
QUOTE
If people would only post realistic videos then there would be very little to discuss if you ask me. And then people would get bored. If you dont like it here then i recommend you to stop using this one or find another forum that is more realistic. You cant expect everyone to just obey you for your personal taste.
So...we should promote ignorance and idiocy just for the sake of having something to talk about?
Then why not have a section for these people that want to talk about flying Kellog's Cornflake boxes and another for those that want to actually talk about serious, at least slightly credible sightings and discussions? Then we'd please you and me both wouldn't we?
Mr.Dot
Jun 29 2007, 02:07 PM
You could start you own thread if you dont like the existing ones, i dont blame them for trying to keep this forum alive, but your not doing much of a great job by posting this one.
Or are you?
Alienated Being
Jun 29 2007, 02:13 PM
QUOTE(Feanor @ Jun 29 2007, 10:08 AM)

So, you just sad you have a life, WTH are you doing here too? Actually He may have not used the words in the best way but he have a point and is his right to post whatever he thinks so it can or cannot be shared by the other users.
I think everyone here has a life regardless of age and if the user has 2000 or 200 posts.
I was joking, actually. When he said "you people need lives", I just thought it was a little ironic/hypocritical that he'd say that when he was posting here, as well. Especially when he was getting "frustrated".
I also fail to see as to what my age has to do with anything. I don't think I missed the point. And, I don't have a 'know-it-all' attitude.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 02:15 PM
You seem to be saying that people are entitled to post what they want, no matter how crap it is. So don't have a go at my post.
Don't wanna start a row here but in your own vein...if you don't like my thread, I'm not forcing you to read it. Certainly not to reply to it.
Alienated Being
Jun 29 2007, 02:20 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 11:15 AM)

You seem to be saying that people are entitled to post what they want, no matter how crap it is. So don't have a go at my post.
Don't wanna start a row here but in your own vein...if you don't like my thread, I'm not forcing you to read it. Certainly not to reply to it.
That is true, they are entitled to post what they want... as long as it follows the forum guidelines. I also never said I didn't like your thread.. I just found it funny that you were complaining about how a good chunk of the threads here are "laughable", when this thread isn't much different.
Nothing irks me more than when somebody looks down upon me because of my age. I can't -stand- it. My relatives do it occasionally... I don't need it online. I wouldn't look down upon somebody's opinion because they were younger than me, therefore, I expect to be treated that way.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 02:25 PM
QUOTE
I was joking, actually. When he said "you people need lives", I just thought it was a little ironic/hypocritical that he'd say that when he was posting here, as well. Especially when he was getting "frustrated".
I also fail to see as to what my age has to do with anything. I don't think I missed the point. And, I don't have a 'know-it-all' attitude.
I think there's a difference between someone who posts images/videos pertaining to be a valid UFO that they have not bothered to apply any logical thought to and someone who merely wishes to vent their aggrevation towards this.
Plus, not wishing to sound too tacky, you call me immature:
QUOTE
The government is hiding knowledge from us... that's almost a fact.
How can you have something that's 'almost' a fact? Either it is or it isn't.
I tend to believe the government's hiding something, but we don't know this for a fact.
Alienated Being
Jun 29 2007, 02:26 PM
It is fact.
James890
Jun 29 2007, 02:29 PM
Show me the evidence then.
I think you're starting to show your age now.
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 11:15 AM)

You seem to be saying that people are entitled to post what they want, no matter how crap it is. So don't have a go at my post.
Don't wanna start a row here but in your own vein...if you don't like my thread, I'm not forcing you to read it. Certainly not to reply to it.
It’s a fact that if someone joins a discussion forum, this person should know that there will be many differences as there will be many who think the same way.
I share your indignity about those who post fake evidence without trying to at least discover if it’s a secure information, possibly fake photo, etc. But they have the right to post as we have the right to dislike it. I don’t think we should separate forums like: REAL STUFF – FAKE STUFF, but I do think people, who deem themselves believers looking for the truth, at least use a bit of common sense and stay in reality, thus trying to seek the real truth, not the one he/she wants to see/believe.
Mr.Dot
Jun 29 2007, 02:30 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 04:15 PM)

You seem to be saying that people are entitled to post what they want, no matter how crap it is. So don't have a go at my post.
Don't wanna start a row here but in your own vein...if you don't like my thread, I'm not forcing you to read it. Certainly not to reply to it.
Whatever people believe to be related to extraterrestrials or UFO's would go in to this section. No one is forcing me to read this thread and i can reply if i want to. Regarding the things you saying, then you should know that no one is forcing you to read or reply to the threads you dont like and certainly not start a thread about it.
DakaSha
Jun 29 2007, 02:33 PM
i dont think its about "forcing" anybody to read any threds.
i think its about the fact that when 90% of the ufo people are morons how can you ever expect to be taken seriously or to solve the mystery.
morons ruin it for people with a brain and it can get frustrating
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 02:35 PM
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jun 29 2007, 11:20 AM)

Nothing irks me more than when somebody looks down upon me because of my age. I can't -stand- it. My relatives do it occasionally... I don't need it online. I wouldn't look down upon somebody's opinion because they were younger than me, therefore, I expect to be treated that way.
I hope you don’t think that my reply to your previous answer to this OP attacks your age. To be honest age not always determine intelligence… I know a lot of elderly ppl who still think we live in the Stone Age.
The OP has a point and it is sure, what many other here think, including me. I agree with him when he says that many ppl do post fake UFO pictures just to get attention and this, destroy the real bit of credibility this issue has these days, unfortunately.
Mr.Dot
Jun 29 2007, 02:39 PM
Maybe this whole ufo phenomen "im referring to flying extraterrestrials" is unrealistic and not true. So the proof your looking for dosent exists.
Primeval
Jun 29 2007, 02:41 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 04:34 AM)

It's thanks to loonies such as the majority of members on this board.
About 80-90% of the threads here are laughable and if the posters' cheese hasn't slid off their cracker then they are clearly just wasting everyone's time on purpose and damaging the credibility of serious UFOlogy issues and discussion.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
Why don't they do us all a favour, leave their dark little bedrooms in mummies house, go outside and get some fresh air, and get a life.
Or are people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a ufo?
If you don't have anything realistic to post, then don't!
It's not good to piss in the water your drinking.
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 02:44 PM
Sorry about this, I don’t want to be the “know it all” here but this is starting to become a flame war thread and this is the greatest and fastest way to TOPIC LOCK/CLOSED and I hate this!
Let’s argue about facts with out going into verbal aggression, etc.
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and have the right to share or not what he/she thinks…
It like art, art is created by the artists and can be anything. For the creator its something only he who have created understand completely but it is seen through the eyes of the beholder and can be appreciated in many ways the artist will never ask to be one or the other way…
James890
Jun 29 2007, 02:47 PM
I think we should end this thread now. It's ran it's course and I don't want to cause a huge argument.
At least I know some others here understand what I'm trying to say. Those that don't...I suppose they'll just carry on with their simple little lives.
Alienated Being
Jun 29 2007, 02:48 PM

Several days later, a report was in the paper that stated that they didn't recover a "flying saucer", but instead recovered a weather balloon. Needless to say, the debris from a crashed weather balloon would have been a LOT smaller. The debris was scattered for over 1km.
Mr.Dot
Jun 29 2007, 02:54 PM
I understand what you mean but the thing is that your arguments are not fair against peoples rights in this forum and contains some flaming. I guess you want it closed now that you ran out of arguments that makes sense.
DakaSha
Jun 29 2007, 02:56 PM
he doesnt need arguments. he stated what he wanted to say and some dont like it
Feanor
Jun 29 2007, 02:57 PM
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jun 29 2007, 11:48 AM)


Several days later, a report was in the paper that stated that they didn't recover a "flying saucer", but instead recovered a weather balloon. Needless to say, the debris from a crashed weather balloon would have been a LOT smaller. The debris was scattered for over 1km.

Could not see your image, what is it about? Roswelt?
Alienated Being
Jun 29 2007, 03:07 PM
Yes, it was an image of a Roswell newspaper from 1947...
Tenkay
Jun 29 2007, 03:55 PM
QUOTE(James890 @ Jun 29 2007, 07:34 AM)

It's thanks to loonies such as the majority of members on this board.
About 80-90% of the threads here are laughable and if the posters' cheese hasn't slid off their cracker then they are clearly just wasting everyone's time on purpose and damaging the credibility of serious UFOlogy issues and discussion.
I'm sure I'm not the only one here who get's frustrated by idiots who post things that are clearly fake.
Why don't they do us all a favour, leave their dark little bedrooms in mummies house, go outside and get some fresh air, and get a life.
Or are people just really that stupid that they think an air balloon is a ufo?
If you don't have anything realistic to post, then don't!
i agree, some of the post that some of these people make they should know better. its probably debunkers who are trying to be sarcastic, i remeber one guy post a pic of a ALIEN TOY with some little make shift forest asking was it real
DakaSha
Jun 29 2007, 04:11 PM
lol yeah ^^
gumby
James890
Jun 29 2007, 04:11 PM
QUOTE(. @ Jun 29 2007, 03:54 PM)

I understand what you mean but the thing is that your arguments are not fair against peoples rights in this forum and contains some flaming. I guess you want it closed now that you ran out of arguments that makes sense.
Are you for real?
If they have a right to post junk in the first place, then what you say here is a prime example of hypocrisy because then I equally have a right to state my case, as I have done. I haven't run out of arguments. There's nothing more to say, it's been said.
Thought I will add I suspect you have the intelligence of a 12 year old by suggesting I'm running away from the argument because I can't defend my point. I already have. Re-read the post and think about it like a grown-up. Maybe when you do, you'll notice that there's many here who agree with me.
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