Another interesting read. Good theory, but the group didn't ask at all how can Bosh prove what he saying is true then?

All talk and no action makes Jack still sceptic.

Oh yes! And to add to that always have a psychic medium open and close the board properly. Do not do this without someone who KNOWS what they're doing.

PS: Never burn a Board either. If not properly shut down, then whatever came through has no way to go back.

PSS: Any smartass comments and I go Kung Foo Karate ***...

Iron Ghost,

Where's the rest of the story?

And so the Guardian Angel session continues ...

Note: We resumed the session again a two days later, again with the same team at the board and recording duties --after the first encounter with the Guardian Angel, most present at the first session were eager to hear more.

Interesting note: For the second session, I obtained a small electrical heating pad, plugged it in and placed it around my neck. With my neck roasting under this thing, we tried to contact the Guardian Angel, but with no luck

During several attempts to raise the G.A., we were first answered by a man who said he had died while trying to burglarize a meat packing plant in Wisconsin. He said he was washed up Golden Gloves boxer and turned to crime after his fighting career tanked. He tried to get into the plant by crawling down a chimney, but got stuck. He was trapped there until the meat plant opened, fired up its furnace, and he was cooked by the heat and smoke inside the chimney. He said it was a horrible death.

A number of the Ouija observers wanted to continue talking to this dead man, but I wanted to get on to the Guardian Angel, so we bid him farewell and good luck in the afterlife.

The next contactee identified itself as "Fortak." This being was eager for our help in what it said was a titanic fight and full-scale war with what it called "The Pan Virulence" -- which apparently was some kind of evil race of gigantic single-celled organisms which invaded certain areas of "plasma" existent somewhere in the Universe -- or so I suppose -- but I cut-off Fortak before learning more, wishing him well in his struggle with the dreaded "Pan Virulence."

Helpful tip: It's my policy to never take sides in intergalactic or trans-dimensional conflicts.

We had several more diversions like this -- but still no Guardian Angel. Then one member of our group made a bold suggestion -- what if the electrical current in the heating pad was scrambling the Guardian Angel connection? As we know, the human brain emanates a mild electrical field. Could the heat pad have been interfering? Recall, the first time I used chemical heat packs to warm my neck. So we abandoned the electrical device and substituted a very hot towel wrapped around my neck.

It seemed to do the trick! On our next try, we raised the super sweet Guardian Angel, and so the session continued:

Question: Guardian Angel, could you tell us where is this planet of your origin? Is it near our earth, perhaps even an ancient moon or planet of our own solar system?

ANSWER: TENDER BUDDING BABY! OUR PLANET WAS FAR DISTANT FROM YOUR SYSTEM.

Question: Does the planet still exist?

ANSWER: IT EXISTS IN TIME, BUT NOT IN YOUR TIME, WHAT WAS ONCE ALWAYS IS, BEAUTIFUL LOVE!

Question: In ordinary terms, what happened to your planet of origin? I mean, was it destroyed by your sun going super nova, or something like that?

ANSWER: NO. WE ATE IT.

Question: What do you mean by that?

ANSWER: IN OUR PHYSICAL INCARNATION AS MOLD, WE FED UPON THE NUTRIENTS OF OUR PLANET. WE ATE IT, SOFT BREATHING BABY.

Question: You mean the blanket of mold that covered the planet eventually digested every last speck of your planet of origin? That seems astounding!

ANSWER: JUST SO ….. DANDELION BABY.

Question: Well, what happened then? I mean, did you not then eat yourself out of your own home? How did you continue to live on with no more planet to eat as food?

ANSWER: OUR CONSCIOUSNESS EXPANDED BEFORE MOTHER FOOD RAN OUT.

(Note: I really wanted to get to the bottom of this, so for the next two grueling hours, I asked for details of the process by which the Angel Mold ate their own planet -- a lot of people observing the session were irritated with me because they basically did not give a s**t how this happened, but I felt I wanted to get this information -- so I will summarize here what happened without making you read through pages of transcript. It actually took a few days to get the following information, which I outine now:

So .... what occurred is that the Angel Mold, starting as an ordinary mold, began to evolve and develop as it increased its spectacular mass, smothering the entire surface of its planet -- which in fact -- was not really a planet but a very large moon, perhaps similar to Titan or Europa, in orbit around a gas giant planet like Jupiter or Saturn.

As the mold munched away at its world, which took untold millions if not billions of years, the internal biochemistry of the mold evolved to a point wherein it achieved consciousness, and then self-reflective consciousness. Just as certain electrochemicals in the human brain and nervous system eventually evolved to form the basis for thought patterns and rational thought, so the "ocean of mold" became like a giant, planetary brain.

As the mold continued to chew away at it's host, a dynamic tension was produced -- the eventual exhaustion of its food source was a pending crisis against which the development of ever higher consciousness was the solution -- the Angel Mold had to become intelligent enough to figure out a way to survive on something other than eating its own world.

To make a long story short -- the dynamic tension between the eventual depletion of food, and the massive increase in intelligent consciousness -- impacted each other, so to speak -- and the result was a kind of supernova explosion of consciousness. In effect, the Angel Mold planet achieved a kind of critical mass and it exploded its consciousness out into the Universe.

The mold was no longer mold, per se, but intelligent consciousness energy, free and at play in the universe. Out of this pure mass of intelligent energy, individual being we have come to call angels developed somewhere in the oceans of time and billions of years.

One of the things the angel entities keyed upon, and needed very badly were those kinds of energies that are produced when physical matter combines in such a way that consciousness is achieved -- and then that consciousness generates energies like emotions -- in particular -- love and curiosity.

More than anything else, angels have an extreme need and interest in these two "byproducts" of the development of minds based in physical reality. The angels became "farmers" of these "substances."

Somewhere along the line, the angels encountered the earth where they perceived that the conditions were right for biological organisms to produce healthy amounts of love and curiosity. I suppose it’s like the angels need to "eat" the energies of love and curiosity. Thus, they encoded within the biological matrix of the earth which would help them to sort of "draft off" the development of love and curiosity.

When the human species emerged, they naturally developed a nodule on the primitive brain stem -- the medulla oblongata -- which acted as the "angel connection" with the human race, and its ability to generate love and curiosity through the natural course of its activities of survival, exploration, development of consciousness --etc.

So this, as we can see, is why the angels love us so very much. Love is an extremely integral energy form to them -- maybe it would help to think of human beings as bees -- bees produce honey, which is sweet and we all love to eat it -- so, then, the angels love to "eat" the honey of our love, and our curiosity.

I don't want anyone to think of this situation as being a "host-parasite” kind of arrangement, or even that the angels are farming us like animals for what we produce. That's not the way I see it -- just because the angels exist within us through a nodule in our brain stems does not mean that this is a foreign organ within our own bodies -- it's something that developed as a part of us, and in which we consciously cooperated in developing within ourselves.

Also, it's very clear to me that the human species and the angel species are separate and distinct races -- speaking in common terms. They are an entirely alien species who developed their own biology on their own planet, and we developed our own biology on our own planet -- but just as many species on earth develop symbiotic relationships, so did angels and humans.

Another good example might be the mitochondria within our own cells. A mitochondria is like a "cell within a cell." Biologists speculate that mitochondria were once a more primitive form of cell, and then became an integral part of a higher order of human cell.

Is everyone following this?

But no one would think of a mitochondria as a "foreign invader" within our own cells -- it's an integral and natural part of the whole structure.

Anyway -- I'll end this post here -- but much more to come. Next, I'll get back to conversations with my Guardian Angel. But I wanted to give everyone this sort of vast, cosmic perspective because I want everyone to be able to put things in context when we get back to asking more basic questions.

One final note: A lot of people here might ask: "You mean to tell me you got all of this information from and Ouija board?"

And my answer is: "Yes, of course I did."

Remember, I had been using the Ouija board for more than 30 years at the time I channeled this information -- practice anything diligently for 30 years, and you naturally go to another level. So it's not that unusual.

Hi people. Alrighty this is going to be a strange request and all but would it be possible for someone to
possibly ask these questions for me the next time they use an Ouija board?

Firstly it would be deemed important that if someone decides to ask these for me, that possibly
they have a regular spirit who them have come to trust and know somewhat. Of course being experienced
with the board is always important.

The reason I ask is I'd like some feedback from another spirit via another persons Seance to compare
to answers I recently got from my little sisters Seance not so long ago. I would like to see how the
answers compare and differ.Of course I realize answers from Ouija are never to be taken as gospel but
If anyone could indeed ask these q's on there next Ouija board Seance
i'd be very greatful.

The questions: Does god Exist?
Is there a soul?
Is time travel possible?
Are there other dimensions?

Please reply to this to say if you could do this for me and explain when you would be having your next
Seance.

Ghost, do you find the words like:

PINK AND WHITE, SOFT AND SILKEN, AN ORCHID OPENS FOR FRESH RAIN, MY BABY, I LOVE YOU.

ANSWER: JUST SO, BABY FLOWER

MY DELICATE SNOWFLAKE, YOU DON'T NEED PROTECTION, LOVELY BABY.

AS YOU KNOW, WHITE SNOWFLAKE, PRETTY PATTERN, FALLING GENTLY.


Very disturbing in a way, even though it comes across like a parent that loves a child?

I don't find them -- they come across the Ouija board. I suppose in this case, you could attribute this interesting usage to the Guardian Angel.

It's curious that you find these words "disturbing." They seem so sweet and poetic to me.

BTW, you cat-snake avatar is just so ... so ... COOL!

Thanks , I did not mean you find them , I just meant in some ways to me they are lovely but in another, well the source is a great power and I wonder how harsh words would sound from this same being, with such beautiful words also comes great power.

When people use an ouija board, they influence each other and move whatever they're using by themselves. Not saying all attempts at Ouija boards are 'without success', but most are.

If you put your finger straight down on the table, fingertip resting in a straight angle down, try to keep your finger still while using a reasonable amount of pressure needed to move an object. I will bet you two bucks you can't keep it still. It ALWAYS slightly shakes, and when multiple people do this they influence each other's movements. And the object moves; once there is movement you will automatically apply enough pressure to keep it moving, too.

At least, that is from my own experience. I've tested it without an Ouija board with a few people and we can't keep a chip or glass from moving even if we try. It is often nothing paranormal and events occurring afterwards are a friction of the imagination.

That said, it's doubtful you will get a proper answer on any of your questions. Only very few people are capable of summoning ghosts/spirits/entities. You don't play with an Ouija board - it plays with your mind.

Look for the answers in your heart. If you live by another's person's words your decisions to believe or accept the answers will be meaningless.

It somehow seems that it is imposible for her to be harsh to a human being in any kind of way. Which is quite interesting.

We've observed many Ouija and Ouija-type (other devices) "communictions" sessions. In all cases when someone askes a subjective question like "Are you happy?" they get a clear answer. But when they ask an objective question like "If you're my father what is the name of our first dog?" they never get a clear and certain answer!

To me, this can only mean 1 of 2 things: 1) Entities, for whatever reason, are unable to think and reaspond in definative ways, or, 2) It's fake/false.

And you are going to believe "the results" other people give you? You realize you are asking for people to yank your chain a bit.

mandala, can I ask you

Monroe was about human consciousness, sleep learning, transformation of human consciousness I am wondering how the two would relate?

Iron Ghost
I am fascinated by the Ouija transcript I would like to know more when you get a chance

Thank you, Aanica -- also, I'm sorry I sort of misinterpreted one of your earlier posts -- I thought you were wasking "where I find words" -- but you were really asking if I found those words disturbing -- anyway -- just wanted to clear that up.

But, anyway, I guess the discussion about my transcripts has been ongoing here -- but let me know what specific questions you have and I'll do my best to answer.

Thank you, I have read your other post in the dorm room on-the net, thats not the one that fascinates me( not that I won't ask later, but that ones scary) this one does, it seems this is a very highly evolved consciousness I think thats what is intriguing and scary at the same time.

How long has your Angel been with you?

Yes, in a way, it is kind of scary -- I'm not sure if that is the word I would use -- but it's kind of a strange feeling when you get the impression you are communicating with an entity that is so far in advance of you, it's like you are a monkey or a dog compared to it -- and you want to just communicate with it in a meaningful way, and wondering if you really even can -- or maybe they are just humoring you.

On the other hand, we have to be careful not to sell ourselves short -- because there are aspects of ourselves that are very advanced --and we just don't know about it at this time -- which is hard to explain.

The Guardian Angel apparently has been with me "forever" -- and I mean "Forever" with a capital F. One has to remember that beings like this Angel do not think of time in the same way as we do -- they think of all time as being here now -- so they know our future selves and our past selves -- and they probably know aspects of ourselves that we ourselves are not aware of -- that's another weird concept which is hard to digest for many people, and with good reason, I suppose.

Reading your transcripts is the only time I have felt compelled to want to know more about anything to do with the board ( bad experience when young) I hope you have time to post more soon...Aanica

Iron Ghost

Okay, I have an Quija board that is about 45 years old, which I have messed around with off and on for years. I discovered that with some people, I can't make the thing do anything, but whenever my buddy Brain and I give it a go, the thing really gets us in contact with a lot of weird stuff on "the other side."

Neither Brian nor I believe we are moving the oracle, even subconsciously. We take turns being blindfolded while we ask questions and get answers. So I called up Brian last night, he came over, we had a couple of drinks, watched the Minnesota Twins kick the s**t out of the Detroit Tigers, then got out the Quija Board to see if we could get some answers for OuijaBoy.

So here are the result fo our session. I'll put the answers of the Entity we contacted in ALL CAPS for everyone's convenience.

First Question to the Board: "We are seeking the guidance and wisdom of an advanced, intelligent entity -- does anyone care to make contact with us?

Answer: SPEAK.

Question: Hello! This is Ken and Brian. We are human beings on the planet earth. We are physical beings. Who are you?

Answer: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, 'WHO ARE YOU?'

Question: We mean, what is your name? How do you identify yourself?

Answer: YOUR QUESTION MAKES VERY LITTLE SENSE. EXISTENCE IS EXISTENCE.

Question: Don't you have an individual identity? We mean, are you one of many?

Answer: YES, ONE OF MANY.

Question: So how do you identify yourself as opposed to others? That would be your specific name?

Answer: IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED PRIMITIVE AND VULGAR TO EVEN CONSIDER AN INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY HERE.

Question: So you are a being who is one of many, but you have sort of a group mind?

Answer: NO. YOU APPARENTLY ARE OPERATING ON A LOWER TIER OF CONSCIOUSNESS WHICH MAKES FALSE DISTINCTIONS BASED ON THE PRIMACY OF INDIVIDUALITY.

Question: Yes, that's probably true. Here on earth, we all have individual egos, but also consider ourselves members of a group or species of creatures, which we call human beings. But we are okay with it -- does this bother you?

Answer: YOU ARE BIZARRE BUT NOT UNKNOWN.

Question: Well, be that as it may, and since you are apparently on a higher plane of development than our species, will you please answer some important questions for a friend of ours?

Answer: YES.

Question: Do you have a physical existence, or are you a creature composed of pure energy?

Answer: AGAIN, YOU MAKE FALSE ASSUMPTIONS. PHYSICAL MATTER IS ENERGY. ENERGY IS PHYSICAL MATTER. DISTINCTIONS ARE ILLUSIONS OF THE LOWER ORDERS.

Question: Great! We think we know what you mean! What planet to you live on? Are you connected to our planet earth in some way?

Answer: THIS IS YET ANOTHER VERY INANE QUESTIONS FOR WHICH THERE CAN BE NO ANSWER SINCE YOU DON'T SEEM TO BE CONCEIVING OF YOUR REALITY IN THE PROPER WAY.

Question: Sorry. Okay, now here are the questions posed by our friend. First of all, Does God Exist?

Answer: DEFINE GOD.

Question: Well, over here there is much debate about what God is or is not, but let's just say that most people think God is the supreme entity that created the universe, all life, all reality, and ourselves.

Answer: THIS A CONCEPT OF PURE NONSENSE -- A COMMON PERSISTENT ILLUSION OF LOWER ORDER BEINGS -- THE ILLUSION IN GENERATED BY THE FALLACY OF SEPARATION AND INDIVIDUALITY.

Question: Okay, well take that as an answer. Thank you. Now, is there a soul?

Answer: DEFINE SOUL.

Question: Well, here on the planet earth, people make a distinction between what is physical and what is spiritual. A lot of people think that they have a kind of energy form that rides along inside their physical body, and will survive after the physical body dies. So, is there a soul?

Answer: HAVE YOU BEEN LISTENING AT ALL? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IS PHYSICAL AND WHAT IS ENERGY. TO SAY THAT A PHYSICAL BODY HAS A SECONDARY ENERGY BODY WITHIN IT IS LIKE SAYING THAT AN ICE CUBE HAS WATER IN IT.

Question: How do you know about ice and water?

Answer: BECAUSE OF YOUR LOWER LEVEL OF DIMENSIONAL EXISTENCE, THERE IS MUCH YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND.

Question: Well, it seems like you are pulling our legs here then, because you needed to ask for definitions of concepts like God and the soul, yet you seem perfectly aware of ice and water.

Answer: YOU HAVE NO LEGS TO PULL.

Question: Whatever, we have a couple of more questions. Is time travel possible?

Answer: DEFINE TIME TRAVEL.

Question: This is the ability to go backwards or foreward in time. Time is a dimension in our existence which is inextricably connected to space. It would be more correct to call it spacetime. We measure time at an arbitrary rate, which we admit is artificial -- it's based on the movements of our planet as it rotates and thus causes separations between periods of light and dark. We use this to make a distinction between one period of time and another period of time -- although the rate of time has actually been shown not to be constant -- for example, the rate of time flow slows down as one speeds up through space and vica versa. Also, time is relative, and also, our scientists are unsure if time has an objective existence in fact - -that is -- independent of its conceptualization by the human mind. So, is there time travel?

ANSWER: YOUR NOT EVEN SURE IF TIME EXISTS, AND YOU WANT TO KNOW IF YOU CAN TRAVEL THROUGH IT? IF YOU WOULD ONLY LISTEN TO YOURSELVES, YOU WOULD SOUND INSANE.

Question: Perhaps. Okay, here is the last question from our friend. Are there other dimensions? And in this case, we are assuming our friend is talking about different realms of existence, each of which contain their own worlds, and are separate from each other, discrete from each other, and yet, communication between them may be possible. For example, we assume that you are in another dimension and that we are speaking to you through a special tool we call an Ouija Board -- this device along with out human minds acts as a conduit between your dimension and ours. Thus, since you are there and we are here, there must be other dimensions, right?

Answer: WRONG, STUPIDLY WRONG. ONCE AGAIN, YOUR OBSESSION WITH EGO-BASED REALITY FRAMING, A REDUCTIONIST VIEW OF EXISTENCE AND MANY OTHER ILLUSIONS THAT CAN'T BE EXPLAIN TO YOU MAKE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU THINK, KNOW AND BELIEVE TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN PURE NONSENSE.

Question: Okay, thank you for that answer, and thank you for communicating with us. Sending love and greetings from our dimension to yours, good-bye.

Answer: GOOD-BYE.


________

This is a typical type os session we get -- you never know what kind of strange being you are going to get on the other side, and their answers tend to leave one wanting -- although it is interesting.

Oh my God! That being you contacted sounded so rude! I mean, if it wasn't in some sort of a bad mood or something along those lines, it was flat out rude sounding! I'm sorry, but it appears that you and your friend went through great lengths and efforts to communicate and you went into great detail and all that "entity" (for lack of a better term) could do was respond in the manner in which you've posted! I'd be pissed!

In ways its very comforting, the words it uses. I guess it was the advanced nature that was intimidating to me, you could call it being scared I guess, I am wondering do you think we all have one like the Angel that loves us as it loves you?

... I think all of us have loving beings that want to associate with us, or even have very deep relationships with us, such as MOMMY, the Guardian Angel and the Love Beings.

They think they are so brilliant and you are so stupid

Perhaps the following Quija board session report will give you an idea about the kind of advice you can get from Quija board "beings"

http://ironghost.wordpress.com/2006/08/18/...e-a-true-story/

I found this so interesting but I don't undersatnd why Bosh is on death row. Do you know what he did to get there? I posted a message on the site asking the writer. Will I get a reply? Did you make any comments or ask any questions?

Don't die, I'm still waiting on the next part of your Angel session!
=]

Hi,

I'm Sereana, and I've been reading all these pages very slowly since three in the morning last night.
I took a quick break for sleeping, and woke up to IronGhost's stories on page twenty-something with my coffee.

I finally got my Ouija board and I waited all eighteen years of my life for it. Seriously, I'd been trying to get my hands on one forever, but I'd been casual about it. Finally I forced some store to order one for me and it came it.

I have a massive family and I nagged everyone for days to sit down with me. I rallied the troops, I had two little girls and my best friend and foster mother, Pat, sit down with me. We started getting activity and I wanted to be wary. I want so badly to believe in things, but at the same time I don't want to trust people to easily, and have them years later tell me that they were moving the oracle. I guess that's pride. Anyway, we contacted lots of people, mostly only good things because the little girls got scared. The most interesting was someone whose name was pronounced "Gift" (Gifd?)and these were the details:

He said he died in 1348, which I contradicted. He said he was 71, I contradicted again.
"People didn't live that long back then."
Yet, he told me that "herbs" had kept him alive, but the type that helped him "live long" didn't exist any more. He said he was from a tribe, and that he had fallen off a cliff when hunting buffalo. He was very clear and made writing down his messages easy. He told me he had many children with six women. I asked him if he had questions for us. He said yes and asked us if we liked to "sew". I explained that we were lazy and did nothing, that we barely even cooked for ourselves in this day and age. He was confused by this and asked if we had slaves. We said no, we have machines. He furthered to ask us if we lived free, and I told him that mostly, we did. He asked what culture we were from and what it was like, and we explained that as well.
He was friendly and open, I asked him how we could know that he was real, and he said "Feel me". I liked that answer. We asked him a few simple tasks and he said he would "try".
It was a postive and interesting experience, until we got interrupted by someone who went back and forth from "elelele".

There's more to the night but this is my quick post. I was hoping maybe this would be of interest.

I found this extremely interesting -- one of the better Ouija posts I have seen in a while. I would keep at it -- I love to talk to characters like this person you contacted. I could get a lot out of a guy like this.

As for his living to be 71 in year 1348 -- that's entirely possible. Lots of people beat the odds and lived that long, and even longer. Some people might have even lived to be a 100 in the Middle Ages. The majority of people had shorter life spans back then -- but still, many lived to old age.

I try to be careful when, as you say "contradicting" Ouija characters -- I don't like to cut them off by questioning their basic reality, no matter how outrageous it may seem. I just accept what they say and go from there -- this does not mean I have to believe what they say, or not. If they want to tell me a pack of lies, that's fine with me, as long as it is creative and interesting.

Iron Horse.....

I was wondering in your opinion what is the best way to get started in the Ouija board? I usually go to taro card readers and I get my incite that way, but I had a session one day about my sprite guards and I would like to know what you think would be the best way for me to maybe contact them. I'm thinking the Ouija board would be the best, but I don't know were to start.

Hi Pinkfox:

I'll get back to you in a bit on this question ... just want to say to everyone here at UM that I've been off the threads for a bit because I am very busy moving to a new location (still in Minnesota) and working on some very time-consuming media projects ... but Ill be back here more frequently soon!

Thanks all!

ugh
ouijas dont work.

Actually they do, however its all to do with intent. Its simply a tool to open a gateway to the so called other side. Its not what it writes out, its what it can bring into people's lives, even years down the line IMO..JN

OMG Iron Ghost, is that really you. Ive missed you, so get back here for a MOMMY story lol..JN

no they dont.
and no its not a tool really, because it makes NO sense. imo
its no different than a pencil and paper. how come people dont use those to let them talk? same thing.
neither one works.