This post caught my attention because of something Bob Lazar said in a taped interview. Bob Lazar is the guy who, after working at Area 51, decided to spill his guts about what he saw there.

Bob Lazar worked at what he refers to as "S-4," the name of 8 hangars inside Area 51 where he worked, back-engineering alien spacecraft.

According to Lazar, he had to hang upside down to see the lower level of the craft.

Lazar says, "There were 3 large gravity amplifiers, which looked like a 2-foot diameter, 4-foot long piece of pipe, hanging by a smaller piece of pipe from the level above, and they can be independently positioned, and that's what emits the gravitational waves that propel the craft. They'll use 1 gravity generator to lift the craft off the ground, and, as opposed to what we're used to, for instance, a plane, once it's off the ground, we envision thrust, or some force coming out of the back of it to push it forward. The crafts were completely opposite of that. What they do is, once they're hovering in the air, they'll swing the 2 remaining gravity generators up in front of them and create a distortion -- essentially a "downhill..." -- the craft rolls downhill for infinity. There's what they call "omichron configuration," where the craft is using 1 generator, or a "delta configuration," where it's using all 3. Delta configuration would be for space travel, as the craft will tilt up on its side, focus the 3 gravity generators to a single point, and move through space that way. It's always chasing a little distortion. This is why they look "goofy" when they fly around at low speeds. Gravity will vary somewhat and you will get odd movements of the craft. So the craft's low speed mode is kind of unstable, for the most part."

I'm jumping in here to ask if what Lazar says corresponds to the diagram of interlocking magnets. By the way, how did you get a diagram from an Ouija board?

It's a very long story in my life and i haven't got time for ufo's at the moment.
I was busy on the Angel thing, i pulled out a sickie today just for this thread.
I lost 200 bucks for this.

I think when the interlocks change position, it will change polarity.
I forgot all about it, it was 27 years ago.

Forgot to answer this question.
It's a combination of the board, automatic writing and 6th sense.

Ironghost, with the most recent Ouija entry, when you said the pointer thing started spinning... was it spinning by itself or were you guys touching it?

Thanks for responding. Sounds to me like your alien contact's explanation via Ouija Board of UFO propulsion may have been spot on.....

I was trying to go back with this thing but i really can't remember.
But it's familiar to me.

We were touching it, bustacrab.

I hope by "changing course" you don't mean you are going to discontinue participating in forum topics alltogether ....AND I doubt if "Ouijaboy" is terribly upset over the direction this thread has taken....B







halfhandshuffle:doors-breakonthru
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tah0OnS3nBU

I am thinking "changing course" means, stop putting his stories on here, and put them in a book. Real or not, they are entertaining stories, and he IS a writer, it would make perfect sense for him to write a book about this, instead of transcribing them all here.

Oh no, nothing like that. It's just that, this has kind of taken on a life of it's own in a way I never thought would happen. I've been getting a flood of e-mails, lots of requests for personal Ouija sessions, lots of people calling me a liar, -- I've even been getting phone calls -- one person even called to say that he was "praying for me to turn to Jesus and away from the Ouija Board." You know, that kind of thing.

So, I have to re-establish some level of sanity here for myself.

I thought most people would find these stories mildy amusing or interesting, nothing more.

YES I UNDERSTAND......some of our reader tend to forget this is supposed to be entertaining as well as informative....but yes that does make sense ....B





halfhandshuffle:family guy-shipoopi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-At95zTApw

Drats, that is one of the downsides of the Internet, and by that I mean "weirdos and freaks." I received numerous emails stating that I am a liar and I want attention and things like that, but that does not bother me any longer, they can think and write what they want. I would say that all of us enjoy your stories and look forward to them, so if you can feel free to post. If things are getting out of control surrounding your writings, I am so sorry there are so many people who cannot see this entire board as a serious subject, yet add some levity in the mix, makes it very interesting.. Keep us posted Iron..

You're a blessing of reason in the midst of a storm. I mean, the number of e-mails are just incredible today, both my personal e-mail and my at my messages here at UM. I've had to empty my folder twice today, already.

I should say, fully 90% of them are extremely positive, resonable and kind.

An incredible amount of people want a personal audience with MOMMY.

Actually, I have enough material on MOMMY alone to make that a complete book in itself.

I still plan to post one more MOMMY session here, then it will be off to Plan B.

Well if you do ever decide to write a book, I'd be at the first signing..I'm sure your overwhelmed right now, but if you do get your degree of sanity back, and want to include us in reading your great posts, then we'll be waiting.

Thank you so much, goalienan. I just want to say, for the record, that this has in no way been a cheap publicity stunt to drum up interest for some book I was planning to write.

I'm heavily under contract with several other writing projects right now, and really have no time in my schedule to write an Ouija book, nor had I been even planning to write a book on this topic.

But I am going to start giving this some thought, I suppose.

LOL! You know sometimes fate steps in and gives us a NUDGE! (eh hem hint! )


Warm regards,
Mabon.

Aweee Iron Ghost. I will miss your stories terribly.

(((((JN- I see you've been passing out the binky's! They must but "Binky Club Member's" in their quote line...lmao.))))))

No, Iron Ghost please don't stop! I'll miss my Mommy

Okay I won't be selfish. Always do what's best for you hun, I understand. xo, Jody

edit speeeeling lol

Well, I would not blame you if you did turn this into a book. It is an interesting topic, and highly entertaining. I also wouldn't blame you if you stopped putting the sessions on here, it has to be a pain to type them up (and if you are typing them up anyway, type them into a book, lol). Heck, you could even make a few bucks from this site just by setting up an e-book on a website. Of course, you would have to let people know where to find it.

Yes Shera, I got an extra box of binkies so gave them to those in crisis..I will miss Mommy too and there she is, alone in a "Nothing Chamber." OMG--

AWWWWWWWWWWW Thanks Iron. Yes we need at least one more of Mommy, we all love her "Precious." So what is plan B? You can tell me I promise not to tell the others...

not at all...you won us over fair and square and we requested more....
and thats the bottom line...cuz Half-hand says so....B








halfhandshuffle:Primus - Mr. Krinkle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtrmbfS_Vuc

Are we included in the book?

LOL Yes under, second chapter under C for the "Crazies" on the UM Board...I want my Mommy..

Does the book have pics? If so here's mommy.




Dont laugh at me ... she'll kick your ass.


Gene

Wow mommy must work out in the "Nothing Chamber"

Good one Gene

Good lord, man!

Lol I've found the nothing chamber and I see mommy.

Gene - that is just creepy on so many levels.... She doesn't even look sexy ... it's just C R E E P Y! Like a Drag-Queen on Steriods

[quote name='GeneBrowne' date='Jul 31 2007, 01:23 AM' post='1802672']
Lol I've found the nothing chamber and I see mommy.


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Look at the one sitting on the right. Looks like it has a dog face..Thats Mommy without steroids..Nice place to workout though You better hope Iron doesn't tell mommy about that picture of her....you'll be doomed.....

Thats why I chose the pic dear Jj.



Lol ... looks like Mommy killed him when he never brought her more iron to pump. She's beyond ripped after this pic ....I think I'm getting a vision ..... I see a ... I see a before and after commercial.

Gene

Oh yes dear JN. We should add bylaws.
1.) Binky's freely distributed to those in crisis
Okay we now have one.


Damn straight BH. That's the truth!! Here- here!!


Gene hun. We need to talk.


Oh yes, and here's the REAL Mommy:


We love her Jody

Am I in trouble???

LOL Thats not Mommy, thats Mr. Mom...

Gene- No hun. Your pic of Mommy scared the poop out of me!



JN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhh the bloody pic again. Stop!! I'm now "double binky'ing" Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!



BH save me...you are the only one who has the power right now!!

*runs away*

Everyone is now possessed with the board.
That's what you get for playing it.

Hmmm, we're possessed by association? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
((Don't make me go into triple binky state...that's when my tremors start))

Jody

[font="Arial"][/font][color="#9932CC"][/color]WOW !!!
Mr.I.G,,,,I have spent all day reading your posts,,,they are amazing!!!
PLZ let us know of your future plans,,,,like when your going to write your novelS!!
I'll be the first in line !!!!!!!!

When I was younger,,,i was very into the "unknown"
One day i made a O board out of a old cardboard box,cut it to what i thought was the right size,(had only seen one on T.V)used a black magic marker to write with and my Dad's glass shot glass.
I went into my parents bedroom closet,they were not home at the time,and sat on the floor and started "playing"with it.I din't ask for any protection befor starting it and i never ended it with a good-bye.(only cause i didn't know better)
From that time untill we moved from that house,weird thing happened to us. Mom complained of being cold in her room,she said that she didn't like being alone in the house'someone is watching me' and i felt the same way.
I moved out a few years later,,only to find that every house that we rented weird 'stuff' kept happening,,,like pictures falling off the wall(no trains,planes or trucks drove by) We had the 2nd &3rd floors of a old house,where this happened and the top floor/attic was divided into three rooms.One area was where our 10mos son slept,the middle rm.was where we were supposed to sleep and the end room was empty.We only slept there a few times because we ALWAYS heard very scarry noises comming from the empty room,,,,something crying,,,sounds of stuff falling over (once i swore that it was empty paint cans,,only to find out the next morning nothing was kept in there) and shadows,,,OMG all the time in the weirdest of places,,,with no possiable reason.We ended up moving within the month,,,,only to find out that the weird stuff that seemed to be happening to us seemed to be following us where ever we moved.
Only after we had bought our first house(I had no 'creepy'feeling with this house as we walked through it,,even asked my then boyfriend,now Husband, to leave me alone in the basement and attic to see what I'd 'feel',) and had our preist bless each room in the house,,walked into the backyard and on the front porch,,,only then did I feel peace.
Spiritual tug-of war????

U know here is the thing that I find curious. Those that actually work in the field - even TAPS people, will tell you in NO uncertain terms: Leave these damn things alone! There is no good that comes from them. I wonder why that is?

Because anyone, even "experts" can fall prey to superstitious nonsense.

i don't see ouija boards as scary, nothing happened with me, i think people subconsciously move the planchette. in extremely rare cases demon or whatever could posses the body, but demons are very rare, and i think that people would know if demon was around them, and they wouldn't use ouija board, so i think that ouija boards are harmless in at least 80 % of cases.

I think she was an internet date I had once ....B

If she was, I'm sure you wouldn't forget her...

I'm SO confused! .....B



halfhandshuffle:rob zombie-dragula
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVTbOISv1w

Your too much...

Guys ... mom's mad that you keep posting her pic. She says that she's going to take you into the Nothing Chamber and make you Shimmer.

As to shadow flames post .... "i don't see ouija boards as scary, nothing happened with me, i think people subconsciously move the planchette. in extremely rare cases demon or whatever could posses the body, but demons are very rare, and i think that people would know if demon was around them, and they wouldn't use ouija board, so i think that ouija boards are harmless in at least 80 % of cases."

I think you're right to an extent. It's thoes times where something physically happens that blows my mind. I don't find the board itself scarey ... except the eyes on the store bought one I have lol ... it's just what it does sometimes that I'm afraid of. People might not necessarily know that there is a demon around them ... I mean it could just seem like a bad haunting or whatever have you, and probably find out through a Ouija Board, or possibly a psychic, that it's actually a demon. You are right tough ... Demons are rare, and if by chance you do know or think you have one, I'd skip the next Ouija Session.

Now stop posting thoes pics of my damn mother. She's ripped and she's ready for a fight.


Cheers,

Gene

If you're going to go full-tilt with this nonsense, you might as well post links to sites that have stories about demons coming out of Ouija Boards, like this one:

"A simple Ouija board became a passport to Hell for a family that accidently summoned a demon into their living room. "
- from http://ouija1.com/

So cleary you were asked.....




If we're going to go full tilt with nonsense, we'd listen to you more often. I'm feeling like I could be an a$$ today so I'm gonna leave it at that.

I'm feeling good today

My keen, analytical mind senses a tongue-in-cheek response here, rather than a true fanbase, despite all of your clever verbal camouflage. =)

I don't know. Seriously, everyone has different opinions on Ouija Boards, from the total skeptics that say its all completely imagination, to those that have had to take a break from playing WoW to have a fight to the death with a possessed Ouija board flying around the room. I just feel like there's a middle path in there somewhere, one based on reason, even given the subject.

There are so many false histories and stories and assumptions made about Ouija Boards (almost as many as the different ways people seem to find to spell OUIJA) that it seems that although most of the "omg itsa deemen!" accounts and alarmist propoganda mesh together (even if their actual details don't) for a united "yep, its evil, burn it" approach, there is no real "opposing view", as its split between the "pfft who cares, it doesn't work", the "nah they're cool man I talked to SATIN!" and then even less common ideas such as the more moderate approaches with a more psychological bent. It's just disappointing to see a subject that I feel could still be an interesting topic for real debate and exploration, always laid low by naysayers who miss the point, or the spooked superstitious lot.

...the....picture....is...back..... *tremor, eye twitch, head jerk, scratchy everywhere* prays to the binky goddess...drat...you...BH...and you wonder why I run away *RUNS AWAY*