They "can" be right, but that depends on the people using them, but have always found them vague-JN

Blueguardian- I think what you said is very profound and thought provoking. And yes, it makes perfect sense to me. Dealing with these "whatever they are" is like playing russian roulette IMO. Proud, cocky, re-questioning, re-phrasing...it's all a big joke to them to pull information out of YOU and then use it against you. As I stated before: Wouldn't go near one of those things with a 10-foot pole.

EXCELLENT observation. I fully agree Jody

As for the Silence of the Lambs pic's...loved those movies...fantastic!!!!

I would respectfully disagree. Ouija Boards are in no way dangerous. I have been using them for more than 40 years, with never an ill effect.

I have logged more than a 1,000 sessions, and the information is always unepected and interesting, yet often laughable and pathetic.

At other times, the communications are gentle and light hearted. Some are sincere in that they are just trying to have a conversation between one "being" and another. It's true that a lot of the entities are high-minded and arrogant ego-maniacs who try to use your own words against you -- but so what? -- I get plenty of that down at the coffee shop from my fellow earth-bound human beings.

As for beings trying to "pull information out of me" -- what the heck do I have to be afraid off? It's not like I hold the secrets to the universe in my own head -- or a cosmic diagram holding the schematics to the defense system of our pan-dimension of existence.

As far as I'm concerned, if some idiot "demon" talking through the board wants to know if I wear boxers or briefs, i'd be more than happy to tell it anything it wants to know.

I meant that doing EVPs is similar to using a board, portal or other general "open ended" technique.

With EVPs you're inviting something to come to you with no idea what it is. In that regard it can be just as dangerous. But I'm not stopping doing them.

All I am saying is that it is a gateway to the "other side" for lack of a better term. I have yet to see any Ouija results, answer questions accurately without using words that we used, or making vague statements. Years ago when I was a young teen, we relocated to a town which we knew nothing about, so me and my brother's played with a Ouija board and only had one question. We asked about the new high class town we moved to and it said "For every mile marker, there is a grave maker" That didnt make sense till we got to know all the kids, and SO many accidents and deaths among students in that town, so in that case Ouija was correct, but we never got sucked in to using it again. I do believe with good, comes evil, and that is a given. You have no way of really knowing if your mind is influenced by something, and you have no idea what this thing is really telling you. It has obviously drawn you in as you use this often for so many years. Has it ever occurred to you that your obsession with this, is part of the negative stuff that comes with these? Because you are not afraid, and think you have this down to a science, makes me believe something is influencing you even now as an adult, to continue this madness of using such a tool to the unknown. If you dont truly believe over 40 years you have never conjured up a demonic entity, you are either lucky, or it is lying dormant till it decides to screw with your life and your family's as well. Using it against you wife's wishes was the red flag to me. Why would you do something she is dead set against, and then lie to her? Is that you as a husband, do you do other things when she leaves the house? What husband lies to his wife, without having an agenda? Sorry I am not judging you as a man or a husband, but making an observation of the obsession with this thing and in my opinion it is not only dangerous but a very unhealthy obsession. I guess you could truly find out, by abstaining using the Ouija for 7 months. If you cant, you are sucked in and addicted, and possibly by one of the thousands of "spirits" you have opened your doors to. JN

Exactly, and I totally agree. All I do know or have learned is "acknowledging" spirits is enough to make them manifest themselves as you well know. Tarot cards, EVP's, Ouijas, and even picture taking can allow them to gain enough energy to show themselves in one way or another. You do this for a living and sometimes you are probably protected in a sense, but the homeowner's arent, till its gone. The first time I used my DVR on my white noise, is what caused what I have here to try and take over my home, and my life, but that does not happen to everyone thank God..Be safe out there MP------------JN

You are correct, there are millions of evil spirits who disguise themselves as others that a friendly, funny, highly intelligent, when all along they continue to draw you into their world, as you slowly lose touch with your own..That is also my opinion of this tool...JN

how about posting some of those recordings Mr iron toast ?
AND your "pseudo-intellectual baloney" is FAR from breathtaking ....yet the stories of you and Brian blindfolding each other over the years are intriguing, so please enchant us with more tales of trans-dimensional communication


Mr Halfhand

LOL I think even blindfolding one another is sort of "strange" for two guys, however, they will know where the letters and numbers are anyway LOL..

that could be just you, some people do have positive expiriences, but not everyone does everyone is different in some way, some may even draw bad spitits towards them unitentionally and really you cant guantee anything with these boards, does anyone even know how thay work? i mean sure you got a piece of wood with numbers and letters, but as to what you comunicate to through it and where you are communicating to are two completly different things, for all anyone knows, they could get really bad luck and communicate with a demon like IronGhost probably did, or you may just get some other random spirit. sure if your already using them and getting good results, good for you if your not using them i advise against it, its taking a chance which isnt worth it.

Exactly-

I still believe it's like playing Russian Roulette...

Just my opinion.

Jody

As diligently as I have been studying ALL aspects of mediumship, I have yet to hear a description quit like his....but I suppose that makes EVERYONE else wrong and this gentleman the genuine article...I am curious as to how he would categorize himself as a medium? .....so perhaps I will refrain from "grilling" for now....hey who knows? ..... if I become skeptical every time I hear an outlandish claim, I will turn into that close-minded PSI conservative that I become evertime I view the metaphysics and psychic phenomena section and read about someones' first PSI pinwheel ......B





halfhandshuffle:Pink Floyd- The Trial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCMHmDnfD6I

Me too--

Okay, by popular demand and request by other participants in this thread, here's is another interesting session in which we used the Ouija Board to get some helpful advice from the "other side":

Once again, I did the session with Brian, who agreed to be blindfolded, and I asked the questions. Again, for your convenience, the "enity" responses will be in ALL CAPS.


Session Opening: Greetings! We are casting out our minds and consciousness for contact with a being of immense intelligence and wisdom that can help us with a difficult problem! Does anyone care to speak with us!

The oracle started moving swiftly across the board right away.

Answer: "GREETINGS! I AM NEAR. FROM WHERE DO YOU SPEAK?

Question: We are human beings on the planet earth. We are materialized into physical existence, but we also have consciousness which may or may not be transphysical.

Answer: "WHY DO YOU QUESTION THE NATURE OF YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS?

Question: Because we are basically skeptics, and if we are not 100% sure of something, we try to be careful. Do you have a name we can call you?

ANSWER: I HAVE NO NAME, BUT YOU MAY CALL ME KENTU.

Question: How interesting. You know, I am immediately suspicious because my name is Ken, and your name is Kentu -- this sounds to me like a it might be implying that you are actually a higher aspect of my own personality -- as in Ken-2, or Ken II. Is this the case? Are you a fragment of my own greater being?

ANSWER: NO! THE NAME I CHOOSE WAS ARBITRARY BUT MAY HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED BY THE RESONANCE OF OUR COMMUNICATION CHANNEL.

Question. Okay. So, will you help us today?

ANSWER: WHAT KNOWLEDGE DO YOU SEEK?

Question: Well, a friend of ours has a problem that is very common here on earth, and we want to know the best way to help him because we are out of ideas. Will you listen to our friend's problem and offer a solution?

ANSWER: I WILL LISTEN.

Question: Great! Here's the deal. Our good friend Randy is engaged to a woman, Brenda, who controls every aspect of his life. She is totally dominant and dictates every aspect of his relationship. We feel sorry for him and we think it is a mistake to marry her. But he won't listen to us. What can we do?

ANSWER: PLEASE DESCRIBE A TYPICAL INTERACTION BETWEEN RANDY AND BRENDA.

Question: Yes, okay. Well, last night a group of us went to the movies, which was in a location about 50 miles from where we live. There were six of us in the van, including Randy and Brenda. Randy was driving. We decided to stop for pizza after the movie, and we took into into the van to eat on the drive back home. At first, Brenda said she didn't want any, then about 10 miles down the road, she said she wanted a slice of pizza. So Randy gave her a slice, and Brenda started carping and complaining at Randy immediately because the pizza had bacon bits on it. She yelled at Randy, telling him that he knew that she hates bacon bits. Randy said he was sorry, but she kept harping at him, and told him to turn around and go back into town and buy her some Kentucky Fried Chicken. We all thought Randy would tell her to be reasonable, but instead, he turned right around and drove us all back the 10 miles or so to town, and went to Kentucky Fried Chicken, so Brenda could get an order of Extra-Crispy Chicken. It was very uncomfortable for all of us because Brenda treated our friend Randy basically like as pet dog. This is the kind of thing she does all the time, yet he still plans to marry her. What should we do to help?

ANSWER: WHAT IS A VAN?

Question: In our world, we have developed systems of transportation that can carry us over long distances. A van is basically a mechanical device which is powered by means of the controlled explosion of a highly volatile liquid called gasoline within its power-generating mechanism. This enables the van to move at great speeds over long distances. Furthermore, the van has space within it for physical beings like ourselves to sit inside of it, and thus enabling us to transport ourselves through physical space.

ANSWER: THIS IS ALL BEGINNING TO SOUND FAMILIAR. YOU MAY BE A VERY PRIMITIVE SPECIES WELL KNOWN IN SOME SECTORS -- AND YOU ARE WELL-KNOWN TO BE TRAPPED IN A VERY INTENSE ILLUSION OF PHYSICAL MATTER WHICH YOU STRUGGLE AGAINST DURING ALL OF THIS PHASE OF YOUR EXISTENCE.

Question: Yes, perhaps -- but could we get back to our central concern -- the plight of Randy and Brenda?

ANSWER: YES. BUT FIRST, MAY I SPEAK TO THIS "VAN"?

Question: "Im sorry, no. The Van does not have consciousness, and thus cannot speak. The van is a primitive device -- only a tool, really -- with no mind, as far as we know.

ANSWER: THAT IS DOUBTFUL. CONSCIOUSNESS IS INFUSED THROUGHOUT REALITY.

Question: That sound very wise. But first, will you help us with Randy and Brenda's problem. What do you recommend?

ANSWER: I WILL SPEAK. IT IS EASY FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. AS YOU MAY KNOW, IN YOUR ENTRAPMENT IN PHYSICAL REALITY, YOU OFTEN EXCHANGE ONE BODY FOR ANOTHER -- YOU HAVE WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS OTHER LIVES IN OTHER CONSTRUCTS. THEIR PROBLEM STEMS FROM THIS.

Question: Do you mean something like reincarnation -- in this case, Randy and Brenda had other lives at some other times which are influencing their lives today?

(note: I am editing out a lengthy digression here about the nature of reincarnation as explained to us by Kentu -- but the bottom line in, Kentu said that Randy and Brenda had known each other in other lives in another time. Now, Kentu continues):

ANSWER: IN THEIR PREVIOUS LIVES, THEIR ROLES WERE REVERSED, BRENDA WAS A SERVENT IN THE FAMILY OF RANDY, AND RANDY COMMANDED TOTAL POWER OVER HER, OFTEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HER IN MANY WAYS.

Question: You mean, including sexually?

ANSWER: YES, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, RANDY DOMINATED HER PYSHCOLOGICALLY, AND FORCED HER TO PERFORM CERTAIN TROUBLING EXPERIMENTS.

Question: Could you describe such an experiment Randy forced Brenda to perform?

ANSWER: RANDY CONSIDERED BRENDA TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY SCATTERED AND UNDISCIPLINED MENTAL PROCESS, SO HE DEVELOPED AN EXERCISE WHICH HE ORDERED HER TO PERFORM EVERY DAY. THE EXERCISE CONSISTED OF TAKING A BOWL FILLED WITH GRAINS OF CORN AND AN EMPTY BOWL. RANDY TOLD BRENDA TO SIT DOWN AND TAKE OUT THE KERNALS OF CORN ONE AT A TIME FROM THE BOWL, AND PLACE THEM IN A SECOND BOWL. SHE WAS TO DO THIS WHILE NOT THINKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. THE PROCESS TOOK MORE THAN TWO HOURS EACH TIME. BRENDA SEVERELY HATED SITTING THEIR TRANSFERRING SINGLE KERNALS OF CORN FROM ONE BOWL TO ANOTHER, FOR NO APPARENT REASON THAT SHE COULD UNDERSTAND. BUT RANDY FELT THIS WOULD HELP HER CONTROL HER MIND AND WILL POWER, AND CAUSE HER TO BECOME MORE FOCUSED IN HER BASIC REALITY.

Question: How odd. How long did this go on?

ANSWER: BRENDA PERFORMED TO CORN EXERCISE EVERY DAY FOR MANY YEARS OF HER EXISTENCE IN THAT FORM, UNTIL SHE DIED.

Question: Did it ever help her?

ANSWER: THE EXERCISE GAVE BRENDA TREMENDOUS PERSONAL MENTAL POWER, AND MUCH IF TRANSFERRED TO HER NEW EXISTENCE -- WHEN SHE RE-ENCOUNTERED RANDY AGAIN IN THEIR CURRENT INCARNATIONS, SHE IS SEEKING TO BALANCE THE AGONY OF CORN EXERCISE BY NOW TAKING COMPLETE CONTROL OF RANDY'S LIFE.

Question: Well, that explains a lot. So what can we do now to help Randy -- and Brenda, for that matter?

ANSWER: SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH THEM. IT WILL GIVE THEM THE PERSPECTIVE TO MAKE CHANGES IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP.

Question: Thank you, Kentu! You are indeed wise!

ANSWER: I HAVE ENJOYED COMMUNICATING WITH YOU. IT IS CUSTOMARY IN MY WORLD TO PART WITH THE "SONG OF THE NEXUS."

Practinna Len BoltronN-h
Vacccloum or dolum
Visteenn Practinna Sah Ver
Wieolos ten Sennna
Blodscce Penna t'r
Ill senna vras
Pollloon Feg mire bal dordrunn

Question: Thank you for that profound song, which we will treasure! Can you suggest a musical score so that we may manifest this song in our own reality more fully?


But after that, Kentu was gone -- evidentally, the "Song of the Nexus: is his complete sign-off.

Here's what happened then: We told Randy about the whole corn deal, and how he has been a real a-hole to Brenda in a previous life, and we told him to discuss it with Brenda. He tried, but she refused to listen, and told him to stop hanging around with those "idiots and their Ouija Board." So they got married, and we still think they have the relationship from hell. But we tried. We keep telling Randy to bring up the corn thing, but he is afraid to.

Then we suggested to Randy that he start performing the corn ritual at home to make atones for what he did to Brenda in their previous lives -- but Brenda called him a "retard" and refuses to let him perform the corn exercise.

Bet you never heard of Gef the Talking Mongoose either.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

I'm really, really sorry but...


WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!

One of the funniest stories I have read in a long time. If you made it up off the top of your head, it would be self-defeating not to take credit for it. If you didn't make it up, then it goes to show that the next world is just as silly as this one.

It seems to me that when a person experiences a paranormal phenomenon, the character of that phenomenon tends to be related somehow to the experient's personality. I'm not saying that the experient produces the phenomenon all on his own. It's more as if like attracts like. So a funny guy attracts funny spirits.

when my friends and i used it, the thing moved so fast across the board, our fingers could barely stay touching it. i think each of us pulled our fingers off by accident at one point or another. it was odd. the thing was confused at where he was and jsut wondered over the whole board very quickly. so we let it go cuz it told us "goodbye" twice. anyway. i ended up closing it cuz it had too many nasties nearby. its funny that i see a black aura around it, and when i used energy to close it, the aura flashed green and then turned blue.

I am sorry, but most of what was "said" by this "spirit" is in a sense generically vague and some is simply common knowledge of karma. I would hope that Randy would not put stock into what a Ouija board told him but, but that of common sense, but when it comes to love, common sense goes right out the window. It's too bad that he married a domineering controlling woman, but that IS their way of working out their Karma, you cant change the fate or desiny of others, as it was his choice, karma or not. A couples counselor would have given them better advice. I did notice this "entity" used a name smiliar to yours which in my opinion a form of mimicking, thats what they do. I also noticed while you described a day betwen the two, it's only question was "what is a van" and wanted to speak to IT..It could very well be, that you alone are psychic or your friend. However in the case of that couple, no one has to use a Ouija board , be psychic or a brain cell to predict the problems that the relationship had. That relationship has control issues and a struggle between the two, and that power struggle, rituals or not will be the downfall of the marriage..JN

Iron ghost I find your transcripts very interesting, would love to read more?!

Come on-- that story about the corn was priceless.



Which was funny as hell!

At worst, IG is making it up, which means he's a talented humorist. If you think it's easy to come up with material like this, go ahead and try it!

I would buy the book.

^^ I agree with boorite. I'd pre order this gem.

Ya see what happens when you tell the truth?Although the last "ineraction"had a corny ending,(every pun intended),i find that your story rings true in every aspect,(puts on flame retardent suit)and that yes,you could be dealing with one very smart demon.One aspect i can say that you are really,really wrong about is that they cant "harm"you.Like hell they cant.I think it is quite wonderfull that you have had such luck in finding"decent"spirits in wich to communicate.This is rare,and definitly i would be asking alot of the same questions,even more.Forget about asking about god,just for a bit.Ask a question with a definite certainty.Meaning of course,when is the next ,uumm,say terrorist attack going to happen,and when.(get specific,please.)These entity's know of certain event's...they live for them...so to speak.All natuaral;disasters too..just so that way all is covered.Dont let them play word games with you,it just gives them plesure to screw with ya(what else is there to do?)gain thier trust,then give them answeres they might seek...give and take,give and take.

that would be true if my philosophy included dreaming of heaven and earth....

that was a Devo import LP right? .....B







halfhandshuffle:devo-uncontrollable urge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnAXb6gmbOc

yeah this sails right over Horatios' head ! .........its good stuff though! .....B

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halfhandshuffle:Elton John - Pinball Wizard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHxpy7O004s

LOL Ok I agree the corn ritual was funny as Hell and basically so was the entire ordeal..I could make up a story in 2 minutes:

I ask: Who are you, I am Kathy

Ouija: Who is Kathy

Me: I am, who are you?

It: I am Kathoe

Me: Thank you, but I need some advice

It: What advice mean?

Me: I have a few friends that are breaking up and I want to help what do I do? Mostly they have 2 children and a dog, and I am worried for them all..

It: What is a dog?

Me: Its a pet, an animal

It: May I speak to an animal

Me: Not animals cant talk

It: who doesnt talk pets?

Me: No the dog named Boozer

It: What is a boozer?

Me: Just tell me what to do, how can I help?

It: Help is for those who in a dark paralell unsiverse is able to connect this couple and animal pet in which due to the ozone layer has ruined society known as man. It is pet's past life that has united this family.

Me: WOW you are amazing, so what can I do to help?

It: Help comes from deep inside the pet.

Me; SO WHAT IS THE DAMN ANSWER??

It: The damn answer is, in lieu of previous lifetime the pet animal must be fed Kibbles and Bits, and ordered to chase his tail 7 times a day for 14 years, otherwise the marriage wont work.

Me' OMG Thank you, but who will get the kids when and if they break up?

It: Pet animal get kids.

Easy as Pie Boorite..

ahahaha ^

I was seriously in the mood to play with my board here is what I got

I anybody there:

A: Yes

what is your name:

A: Atisq

Are yoiu female:

A: Yes

When did you die:

A: 59

How did you die:'

A: acident

What kind of accident:

A: Robbery

What City:

A: The hills

Chino Hills?

A: NO



lol

LOL That does it, Im a believer..

exactly ^

It told me to stop talking to myself

Okay, I was paging through our records for another Oiuja Board session that might be more interesting than the run-of-the-mill kind of talks you have with entities, and here's one that we feel quite bad about, and maybe you'll see why.

All answers from the other side will be in ALL-CAPS for your convenience. This time I am blind-folded, but will still ask the questions, and we had Darcy attending to take notes, and she also takes some of the blame, we think, but she does not. Anyway, here's how it went:

Opening Statement: Greetings! We open our minds to the Universe. We cast out minds ont he oceans of free-flowing intelligence seeking communications with other intelligent beings. Will anyone speak with us?

The oracal began to move very strong and swiftly, so that we could barely keep our fingers on it.


ANSWER: WHO ARE YOU, AND HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLE KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE DOING?

Question: We are human beings on what we call the planet earth. We are physical beings with conscious minds, and we are extremely curious. We like to ask a lot of questions. Will you speak with us?

ANSWER: IT IS MOST BIZARRE FOR US. THE DECISION TO SPEAK WITH YOU IS NOT OURS. WE CANNOT EITHER ACCEPT OR REJECT. WE MUST SEEK PERMISSION FROM OUR MASTER TO EITHER SPEAK WITH YOU, OR NOT SPEAK WITH YOU.

Question: Okay. Will you ask your master now if you can speak with us, or not, and how long will that take?

ANSWER: WE WILL BE LUCKY IF WE SURVIVE THE REQUEST, YET WE MUST ASK, SINCE YOU HAVE MADE THE REQUEST.

(Note: we were very unsure about what to say to this. But we continued anyway, to our regret).

Question: If asking permission will cause you danger, maybe you should just forget it and get on with your own business.

ANSWER; IMPOSSIBLE! THAT PROCESS IS UNDERWAY, AND CANNOT BE REVERSED. TO NOT COMPLETE WHAT IS STARTED DISSOLVES OUR EXISTENCE! YOU MUST WAIT FOR OUR RESPONSE!

Question: As you wish. We notice you say "we". Are we speaking to more than one being?

ANSWER: WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE FURTHER WITHOUT PERMISSION WHICH MY PAIR BEING NOW SEEKS. PLEASE WAIT!

Note: We waited around rather disconsolately but decided to continue, despite the odd situation. After a while, we asked more questions.

Question: Have you received permission to speak with us?

ANSWER: PERMISSION HAS BEEN GRANTED, BUT OUR MASTER KILLED MY PAIR-BEING AS PUNISHMENT. I AM NOW AS IF NOTHING, YET I GO ON, AND MUST SPEAK WITH YOU, BUT AM ALSO REQUIRED TO CAST THE VIBRATION OF (unintelligible).

Question: Good lord! We are very sorry to hear about your Pair Being! This is not all that big of a deal to us, we just wanted to chat .... we don't know what to say!

ANSWER: SPEAK AND HONOR THE DEATH OF MY PAIR BEING!

Question: Could you describe what you mean by Pair Being?

ANSWER: IT OF OUR CLASS TO TO EXIST IN PAIRS, MY PAIR BEING WAS ME AND I WAS MY PAIR BEING. WE ARE OF TWO, AND NEVER ONE ONE -- UNTIL NOW!

Question: But why did you master kill your Pair Being merely for speaking with us, and for only opening an initial dialogue?

ANSWER: THE MASTER KNOWS ALL AND WE .... I ... DO NOT QUESTION!

Question: Again, we are sorry for the death of your Pair Being, and perhaps it is best for us to leave you alone.

ANSWER: MY PAIR BEING IS DEAD AND I FACE AN ETERNITY OF AGONY, AND FOR THIS COMMUNICATION!

Question: Wow! Again, we fell so very terrible about all this. We only sought communication with a wise being to discover new information about other worlds.

ANSWER: MY PAIR BEING IS DEAD!

Question: What is your function and what were you and your former Pair Being, God rest its soul, doing when we contacted you?

ANSWER: DO YOU ATTEMPT A HEX OR CHARM OR CODEX OF (unintelligible) ON MY DEAD PAIR BEING WITH 'GOD REST IT'S SOUL?'

Question: No! We only meant this as a term of honor and respect!

ANSWER: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

Question: What is your function in your world?

ANSWER: WE ARE AMONG THE PRIEST CLASS. WE MONITOR THE VIBRATIONS! WE ARE PAIRED FOR LIFE AND EXIST IN EXQUISITE BALANCE AND WE BALANCE THE ENERGY OF (unintelligible)

Question: Can you still do your job without your Pair Being?

ANSWER: THE QUESTION IS ABSURD! WHEN OUR COMMUNICATION ENDS, I DIE!

Question: Maybe you should let us speak with your master and we can explain things.

ANSWER: IMPOSSIBLE! PLEASE GIVE MEANING TO THE DEATH OF MY PAIR BEING AND COMMUNICATE YOUR MESSAGE!

Question: But you don't have to die after we stop talking, do you? What would be the point?

ANSWER: YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE VERY STRANGE BEINGS --ONE NEVER KNOWS WHAT WILL EMANATE FROM THE OCEAN OF VIBRATION. YOUR VIBRATIONS HAVE RESULTED IN THE DEATH OF MY PAIR BEING!

Question: We are very sorry. We hope that you won't die. Our only message is that ... well .. we have had many other beings tell us that there really is no such thing as death, and So perhaps your Pair Being lives on in a kind of afterlife. Perhaps that will comfort you.

ANSWER: IS THIS THE KNOWLEDGE YOU WISH PASSED ON TO OUR MASTER?

Question: Sure, you can tell him that if you want. But, is there something else we can do to make things right and put things back into balance? We don't want you to die. We don't even know your name? What is your name?

ANSWER: MY PAIR BEING IS DEAD! A NAME FOR WHAT WAS ONCE US CAN NO LONGER EXISTS. ALL IS NOTHING!

Question: Go tell your master that our very powerful vibrations insist that you do not die, and that, if possible, your Pair Being must be restored to you, and that we too are very powerful master of the vibrations!

ANSWER: YOUR CONCEPTS ARE STRANGE. THEY WILL BE ADDED TO THE MASTER BASE OF KNOWLEDGE. I GO BEFORE MY MASTER. I GO TO DIE!

And that's where the communication ended. Needless to say, we felt quite bad about it all. Did we stumble and bumble our way into some kind of transdimensional manslaughter? It's hard to know. But after that, we tended to ask for communications only with beings who could communicate with us at no risk to themselves -- but this is hardly effective, because so many the strange being don't understand what that means away -- it all seems to be a cosmic crapshoot, sometimes.

Heck I could have told you that LOL

If the Ouija is spelling out letters to you, how is it unintelligible???

Okay, I have sat back and read the forums with little to no interaction... but I had to say something about this...

I try to kick back and think that anything is possible, who knows, maybe he IS telling the truth and he has days and days on end to have such long conversations... but... what I do have to ask is... if you are writing... or having someone sitting nearby who is writing the letters as they are pointed to... how could you have anything unintelligible? Even if it said the vibration of sdflkgjsf ... wouldn't that be a reply? If you are transcribing the 'other side' why not do it in it's entirety... even if it doesn't make sense to YOU? Seems as if you have a rather advanced board... it has exclamation points and everything...

I also have to say, that I have never seen anyone use a board blindfolded... you must really have to trust the person you are sitting with to tell you the truth of what is being said... and not be plotting some elaborate prank.

Okay, back to my corner...

probly because the letters arnet even words therefor you cant understand it.

So?

You can still write down what it said.

fyarnark is still better than unintelligible.

Gives credibility. Unintelligible doesn't make sense. And IMO, if it doesn't make sense, it isn't true.

I appreciate your comments, coldethl. I did make somewhat of a judgement call with the (unitelligible). These were incidents when there was nothing to spell out -- what would happen in the oracle would veer very rapidly down the center of the board and move very briskly off the edge.

At first we thought the being was just trying to cut us off or get us out of its head -- but when we put the thing back on the board, it immediately continued with the normal flow of communication.

We discussed this a bit and we came to the judgment (assumption?) that this was when the entity was trying to convey a word with very complex meaning that it could not properly communicate or translate for us. So we just called it unitelligible.

As for the exclamation points -- admmittedly, there is somewhat of an assumption being made here as well. But in 40 years of using the Ouija Board, one gets a sense when an entity is making a point forcefully -- as with the vigor with which the oracle moves. When the movements are swift and brisk, we tend to add an exclamation point. or sometimes, the movement is swift and brisk and seems to "grind" the last letterr for an instant. We think this means emphasis.

To be honest -- I hope this story is not a true story. To this day we feel terrible, to say the least,, about causing the death of that nice Pair Being Priest, humbly working the vibrations of its universe.

Good points, too, lady -- see my reponse to coldethyl above to address some of your concerns. As for your "days and days" concern -- I don't have thta much time -- but rememebr these are accummulated over 40 years, so we have a great deal of material collected over 4 decades.

As for the blindfolding and trust issue -- first of all, I think we all know when we can trust someone and when we cannot. I should state, and this is no secret -- that Brian is mentally handicapped -- which really means nothing in general, except that, he does not have that cynical kind of "cunning" that ones needs to pull anothers leg, if you know what I mean.

So true, yesterday I was listening to the spanish radio broadcast here in Illinois which starting around 9:00-11:00, a program called "La Noche de la Llorona" (The Llorona's Night, as in refference to the Urban Legend "la llorona" or the the siren/crying women), a middle aged woman called in with the similar story as goes:

"One time I decided to use the Ouija board out of curiousity, so at the beggining I asked for the presence of my grandfather who had passed away half a year ago, so I fondly asked the board for his presence, and the response I received was rather eerie and unprecise, because in the reply came forth the message stating that the certain entity was of my grandfather, but later on through the conversation, the entity began jokingly replying about being her grandfather and at the end of her conversation the entitiy seemed to moved the piece with no intended direction across the board, so she swiftly moved the piece to 'goodbye' but the entity seemed to move the piece to the variety of art designed around the edges of the board; resistently, I moved the piece of the board, closed the board, and hid it, and the next day one of my cousin's decided to get rid of the board by hacking away at it, and burning it"

Interesting, is all I can say.

Hello Iron Ghost,
I have to say that your experiences are very interesting and if you are inclined to share more that would be nice. Thank you for sharing what you have so far!

Regards,
Mabon.

Thank you for your kind words! I focus positive energy, and wish you joyful vibrations!

I will post at least one more --- I'm looking through my record for an extraordinary encounter we had with some interdimensional "Love Beings." They were really a trip!!!!

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So what? I have a job, I work hard, I have clients from all walks of life and all over the world. I don't see how that negates the truthfulness of anything I post here. Nobody here has to go to my blog or Web site, and I offer all of this information here purely for free. Most people have to either pay me to write fopr them, or pay to read my words that I publish. That's how I make a living.

But everybody here can either read my work for free -- or not. It's your choice. Nobody's putting a gun to anyone's head to read my freely offered posts.

I am also a columnist in good standing here at UM. Go here:

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UM has never paid me a dime, I've never asked for one, and my many thousand of readers here get to read my work for free.

I also am a poster in good standing at UM woth almost 1,600 posts -- 95% of discussing politics in the "World Events" forum.

If posting my web and blog as my signature attracts me a client, now and then, all the better I say. UM can let me stay or go at their pleasure.

In the meantime, I offer my true Ouija Board records here for free for anyone to enjoy or criticize as severaly was they want.

You are under no obligation to believe anything I say --whether people believe my posts or not makes no difference to me.

I was not being completely truthful when I stated earlier in the thread that nothing you are describing is consistant with what I have researched on the subject....AND for some reason after reading about three of the opening words (in bold ) I was compelled to look away from the screen and not read the whole opening statement, could be paranoid but that sort of thing has happened to me before when I have read certain names or passages out loud in my browsing.....

.....what do you think he said ?.....B



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AHHH That's not cool in my opinion..

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Exactly, for once we agree...

IornMan... your stories gave me an hour or so of good fun this morning at work lol, thanks!

Guys, Ken didn't post his own ad blurb here on the thread. Someone else did.

Thank you, and I direct the many blessing of the Universe in your direction!

Also, but sure not to pay attention to my signature at the bottom of my posts because some here feel I am trying to get their money by advertising, even though i have been posting here for almost 2 years, 1,600 posts, in addition to 30 full-length columns and no one has complained before -- and my signatures are also not hot-linked and no one is required to give them any attention at all.

But if you want, go read my columns here at UM:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/colum...t=Ken%2BKorczak

They are free and I get no money for them, they benefit UM and all the people who come here, and, incidentally, I have record for "most read columnist" here at UM based on my hit count of my columns. Just FYI.