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LIPI Rob
Here are two stories that I have been told:

One person who I was speaking with told me a story about his experience with the boards. He and his friends were in one room asking the board questions and not really believing anything would happen. His mother and dog were in the next room watching tv. As they asked questions "something" started answering them. They then asked it, "if you are real, prove it to us." Then in the next room they heard an explosion. They ran over and discovered that tv exploded in front of the mother and the dog. They then went back to the board and asked it if it was the entity who did it. It replied, "Yes, you asked for proof and so I chose to try to kill your dog." They never touched the board again.

The other story I know of was told to me by a church priest. He said that a woman came to him concerned about a loved one playing with a board. He told her to tell her friend to stop because only evil will contact you with it. The woman said that her friend received a message saying that she was going to be hit by a car and die for using the board. When she got home from the church the woman learned that her friend was hit by a car and died earlier on in the day.
jpatt
I've had plenty of neutral, and yes a few positive stories of using the Ouija board.

This first example given in this last post - I have similar stories, my uncle once told me that he had burned one and listened to it scream, etc. But you know, once I decided to actually look into things, research what people tell me, and learn things for myself, I found out that my uncle was quite honestly full of crap and knew nothing about any of it and was a paranoid religious fanatic (who isn't actually religious, to top it off) and guess what, Ouija Boards weren't part of the original Dungeons & Dragons role-playing games either, thought he swore to me they were. So what I'm saying is that urban legends need a good airing in the light, and "friend" stories sometimes may even need more than that.


As for the second story, I believe that on rare occasions, spontaneous psi abilities (precognition, clairvoyance etc) may be manifested (I've possibly witnessed this myself) - this doesn't affect or skew the use of a board toward "good" or "evil". If you're saying you think the woman was killed by some spirit she contacted through the Ouija board... well... we are all entitled to our opinions.
JustNormal
QUOTE(LIPI Rob @ Aug 14 2007, 04:02 AM) *
Here are two stories that I have been told:

One person who I was speaking with told me a story about his experience with the boards. He and his friends were in one room asking the board questions and not really believing anything would happen. His mother and dog were in the next room watching tv. As they asked questions "something" started answering them. They then asked it, "if you are real, prove it to us." Then in the next room they heard an explosion. They ran over and discovered that tv exploded in front of the mother and the dog. They then went back to the board and asked it if it was the entity who did it. It replied, "Yes, you asked for proof and so I chose to try to kill your dog." They never touched the board again.

The other story I know of was told to me by a church priest. He said that a woman came to him concerned about a loved one playing with a board. He told her to tell her friend to stop because only evil will contact you with it. The woman said that her friend received a message saying that she was going to be hit by a car and die for using the board. When she got home from the church the woman learned that her friend was hit by a car and died earlier on in the day.


Hey Rob, I have also heard some frightening events occuring from people using boards. Thing is, its not the board itself, as it is only a tool to contact "spirits." With that said, seems it attracts more negative and evil entities than good. Anything involving the occult can result in more the users bargained for...JN
TheDreamer
The last time I tried to contact God on the Ouija board, he/she/it decided it would be funny to prank call me, so when I picked up the phone there would be no one on the other end. This happened about 20 times until me and my friend said out loud "We get it already". The phone calls stopped.

Oh, me and my friend Sean have a buddy on the other side called Zumi. I think he's African.
LIPI Rob
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Aug 14 2007, 01:59 AM) *
Hey Rob, I have also heard some frightening events occuring from people using boards. Thing is, its not the board itself, as it is only a tool to contact "spirits." With that said, seems it attracts more negative and evil entities than good. Anything involving the occult can result in more the users bargained for...JN


Yeah I know it's not the board itself. However what it does do is essentially ask the entity to use your body in order to move the needle for the letters. Anytime you ask something to use your body you're asking for trouble. What I've been taught by respectible people in the field is that very few benevolent spirits will speak through a medium like this; main reason (religious) being that spirits and people are not supposed to have conversations; anytime you ask something to tell you the future you are going against God's wishes. What makes these forms of communication dangerous is that you don't know what you're talking to.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(LIPI Rob @ Aug 14 2007, 07:19 AM) *
Yeah I know it's not the board itself. However what it does do is essentially ask the entity to use your body in order to move the needle for the letters. Anytime you ask something to use your body you're asking for trouble. What I've been taught by respectible people in the field is that very few benevolent spirits will speak through a medium like this; main reason (religious) being that spirits and people are not supposed to have conversations; anytime you ask something to tell you the future you are going against God's wishes. What makes these forms of communication dangerous is that you don't know what you're talking to.
Some of us choose to strengthen our shields as opposed to developing our abilities...why?... I trust my insticts....B





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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tah0OnS3nBU
IronGhost
Hi Everyone:

My apologies -- my computer was fried during a thunderstorm last week -- so I have been having a lot of technical challenges here getting back online. I'm sending this message from the computer at the library -- I hope to get back into the discussion here soon.

I live in a fairly remote area, so I have to drive almost 50 miles to get to this computer, making it difficult to post here for the next few days-- my new computer stuff is on order, so hopefully I'll be back in biz in just a day or two.

It's agonizing not to be in this terrific discussion! Hope to be back soon!!!!!!!!

Peace, love, and all the best harmonic frequencies to all my friends here!
JustNormal
QUOTE(IronGhost @ Aug 15 2007, 04:51 PM) *
Hi Everyone:

My apologies -- my computer was fried during a thunderstorm last week -- so I have been having a lot of technical challenges here getting back online. I'm sending this message from the computer at the library -- I hope to get back into the discussion here soon.

I live in a fairly remote area, so I have to drive almost 50 miles to get to this computer, making it difficult to post here for the next few days-- my new computer stuff is on order, so hopefully I'll be back in biz in just a day or two.

It's agonizing not to be in this terrific discussion! Hope to be back soon!!!!!!!!

Peace, love, and all the best harmonic frequencies to all my friends here!


(((Iron))) There you are!! sorry to hear about your puter crashing, we have missed you. Hurry back..JN- yes.gif
SisterDisco08
how do ouiji boards work exactly?
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(SisterDisco08 @ Aug 15 2007, 01:17 PM) *
how do ouiji boards work exactly?
here you go happy.gif ....B

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SisterDisco08
O.O...looking at that makes my brain want to cry
JustNormal
QUOTE(SisterDisco08 @ Aug 15 2007, 06:26 PM) *
O.O...looking at that makes my brain want to cry


LOL It is said that a Ouija board can connect us to the spiritual world, and there seems to be a great deal of people who have claimed very negative and scary experiences, even years later. Basically it is just a tool, like Tarot Cards, and anything else linked to the occult. Most often people ask for a spirit, many times of someone who has passed on, or one at random. The connection with most seems to be very strong, and its unknown who one will connect to, when certain questions are asked. For some reason they are known to contact evil, or angry nasty spirits. It is suggested NEVER to use one, because you never know what you're going to get..JN- no.gif
jpatt
Correction: It is suggested by JustNormal and others never to use one. I agree with this advice for people who are unsure or scared of the results, or if you have been instructed not to use one by parents, etc. It can be scary and sometimes disturbing and there have been psychological problems possibly stemming from obsession with use of the board.

Two or more people have their fingers on the traveller/plachette and then ask a question, and it is supposed to move around, stopping briefly on letters and/or numbers, spelling out the answers.
Barek Halfhand
AND may be considered necromancing, so enjoy! thumbsup.gif ....

Me I prefer action ...B
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Please Explain
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Aug 15 2007, 06:21 PM) *
here you go happy.gif ....B

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Good one !
Ever tried Automatic Morse Coding ?
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Aug 15 2007, 09:06 PM) *
Good one !
Ever tried Automatic Morse Coding ?
I was going to get that model but was already tapped....B

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IronGhost
QUOTE(WiseguY @ Aug 10 2007, 08:17 PM) *
Good stories.

IronGhost, in all your sessions, have you ever used the name of "Jesus Christ" when encountering a demon? If so what effect did it have?

If your answer is no, please do this experiment for me, if you choose. Call upon a demonic entity and use the name of "Jesus christ" to command it to answer various questions(whatever you like). Basically see if it must obey you. Bible scriptures tell of the power of his name over demonic spirits and Iam curious to know of your experiences on the subject.

"Then He appointed twelve, that they might be with Him and that He might send them out to preach, and to have authority (Gk: exousia) to heal sicknesses and to cast out demons."
(Mark 3:14,15).

"Once when we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit by which she predicted the future. She earned a great deal of maney for her owners by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting, "These men are servants of the Most High God, who are telling you the way to be saved. "She kept this up for many days. Finally Paul became so troubled that he turned around and said to the spirit, "In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!" At that moment the spirit left her. ." (Acts 16:16-18)

ty. no flames please, respect the question.


The short answer to your question is, no, I have never contacted a demon via the Ouija board simply to test out the power of Jesus to make that demon do my bidding.

Am I interested in doing the experiment? Not really -- the situation you propose is actually complex, when you think about it.

First of all, I wonder if Jesus would really approve of playing around this way? It’s like: “Hey, let’s go out of our way to contact demons just to see if we can use the name of Jesus to put a chain on that demon and make it our personal lacky. I don’t really think that this is really in the spirit of what Jesus wanted his followers to do -- Jesus would probably wish that we didn’t mess around with demons at all.

And you never know. Jesus might decide: “Hey, these dingbats are playing with demons just to test my power. Maybe they need to be taught a lesson!” I mean, think about the deal God made with Satan when they decided to test the faith of Job. On a bet with Satan, God put old Job through a lot bad times, did he not?

Second, as I have said, as you read about in a previous session I posted here, I have contacted demons on a number of occasions and never really had a problem in dealing with them without invoking the name of Jesus. Perhaps the demons I spoke with were just a bunch of low-grade moron demons, or were only saying they were demons for the hell of it (no pun intended!) -- but I’ve traded wits with demons on many occasions, and have never come to any harm as a result.

In fact, I’ve always enjoyed trying to talk to demons because they tend to be stupid buffoons, totally full of baloney. Perhaps I’ll march up to my attic and dig out another demon session to illustrate what I mean.
JustNormal
QUOTE(IronGhost @ Oct 9 2007, 03:32 PM) *
The short answer to your question is, no, I have never contacted a demon via the Ouija board simply to test out the power of Jesus to make that demon do my bidding.

Am I interested in doing the experiment? Not really -- the situation you propose is actually complex, when you think about it.

First of all, I wonder if Jesus would really approve of playing around this way? It’s like: “Hey, let’s go out of our way to contact demons just to see if we can use the name of Jesus to put a chain on that demon and make it our personal lacky. I don’t really think that this is really in the spirit of what Jesus wanted his followers to do -- Jesus would probably wish that we didn’t mess around with demons at all.

And you never know. Jesus might decide: “Hey, these dingbats are playing with demons just to test my power. Maybe they need to be taught a lesson!” I mean, think about the deal God made with Satan when they decided to test the faith of Job. On a bet with Satan, God put old Job through a lot bad times, did he not?

Second, as I have said, as you read about in a previous session I posted here, I have contacted demons on a number of occasions and never really had a problem in dealing with them without invoking the name of Jesus. Perhaps the demons I spoke with were just a bunch of low-grade moron demons, or were only saying they were demons for the hell of it (no pun intended!) -- but I’ve traded wits with demons on many occasions, and have never come to any harm as a result.

In fact, I’ve always enjoyed trying to talk to demons because they tend to be stupid buffoons, totally full of baloney. Perhaps I’ll march up to my attic and dig out another demon session to illustrate what I mean.


Its about time you came back stranger...I desperately need another Ironghost story, so step to it LOL..JN..
TruBeliever
My concern here is why you need someone else to use the board for you? Why do you want someone else to open themselves up for a potentially dangerous scenario to ensue. I feel that this is a bad idea for anyone even remotely considering it. I feel that there is more to the story than what is being eluded to. I, for one, am not willing to take the risk.

Tru
Veliska
sad.gif I am sorry I can't help you with this...Ouija boards or any other way to summon spirits is what I stay away from. Just be careful.
JustNormal
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Oct 9 2007, 04:17 PM) *
My concern here is why you need someone else to use the board for you? Why do you want someone else to open themselves up for a potentially dangerous scenario to ensue. I feel that this is a bad idea for anyone even remotely considering it. I feel that there is more to the story than what is being eluded to. I, for one, am not willing to take the risk.

Tru


I agree Tru, however in Iron's case, his writings are phenominal whether true or not, and I love reading him. He doesnt encourage others, he explains his way of using it..I wouldnt touch one with a 10 foot poll, but his stories are simply compelling, and amazing. I wuv him... wub.gif
JackalnChainz
QUOTE(MasterPo @ Jun 29 2007, 09:17 PM) *
It's not the board. You can use anything.

It's the opening up to whatever is there. You're inviting in something you know nothing about. Like opening your front door in the middle of the night and walking away. Who knows what may come in.

I agree 100%
F-16 Falcon
Yeah, that was an excellent read -- the one with "MOMMY". Very, VERY interesting. thumbsup.gif
RX-7

Yes it was wasn't it. So has anyone ever tried using one while drunk grin2.gif


JustNormal
QUOTE (Alienated Being @ Nov 6 2007, 07:22 PM) *
Yeah, that was an excellent read -- the one with "MOMMY". Very, VERY interesting. thumbsup.gif



Yes Iron Ghost is an amazing writer and story teller..JN
Endymion
I would like to experiment Ouija Board with someone who knows to work with,but in Portugal is very difficult to find a Ouija Board and an expert.
AngelXVI
QUOTE (Endymion @ Nov 6 2007, 07:55 PM) *
I would like to experiment Ouija Board with someone who knows to work with,but in Portugal is very difficult to find a Ouija Board and an expert.


Better left alone... that's just my opinion, not from a religious point of view either. You don't know what you attract and I have heard they can disguise themselves as loved ones and really they are very negative energies
Endymion
I want to know if it works how the people say.
Magnatude
Interesting post, took me a while to read through it.
Hope to see Irons' Session manuscripts get published, makes for an entertaining read.
Not that I believe or disbelieve, just interesting and humorous.
JustNormal
QUOTE (Alienated Being @ Nov 6 2007, 07:22 PM) *
Yeah, that was an excellent read -- the one with "MOMMY". Very, VERY interesting. thumbsup.gif



I love "MOMMY in the Nothing Chamber." I wish IronGhost would post another story soon. JN
IronGhost
QUOTE (Endymion @ Nov 7 2007, 12:55 AM) *
I would like to experiment Ouija Board with someone who knows to work with,but in Portugal is very difficult to find a Ouija Board and an expert.


You can find a board in just abut any toy store -- they are sold by Parker Brothers -- these are as good as any boards. You can also make your own board, and a lot of people make custom designed boards, which you can find and buy by searching on line. I'm sure you would find plenty boards on eBay.

Also, you don't need an "expert." Anyone can use an Ouija Board. The thing is to find two people with the right energy and chemistry to make it really take off.

I know a lot of people will warn against "playing" with the Ouija because it may let strange "forces" into one's life -- all I can say is that in 40 years, nothing bad has ever happened to me, and just about all the entities I have communicated with from the other side are mostly indifferent to our existence in our particular reality.

Most of those "on the other side" really don't understand the relevance of our existence, and can't relate to us in a meaningful way, although many are both curious and patient and will put up with your questions and such -- which often leads to interesting information.
fylgja
I suddenly came up with a great idea to sue Parker Bros. Soon there will be disclaimers on every ouija box: "Warning: demon inside---use at own risk." lol
If I were to talk to ghosts I would take a more direct approach. Waiting for them to spell everything out is just lame.
AngelXVI
QUOTE (fylgja @ Nov 7 2007, 03:36 PM) *
I suddenly came up with a great idea to sue Parker Bros. Soon there will be disclaimers on every ouija box: "Warning: demon inside---use at own risk." lol
If I were to talk to ghosts I would take a more direct approach. Waiting for them to spell everything out is just lame.


You mean like a government health warning... like beware can cause insanity!!!
fylgja
QUOTE (angel1094 @ Nov 7 2007, 03:41 PM) *
You mean like a government health warning... like beware can cause insanity!!!


Yeah, something to that effect. Or even, "May cause Captain Howdy to possess your body and make you barf pea soup all over priests..."
AngelXVI
QUOTE (fylgja @ Nov 7 2007, 03:43 PM) *
Yeah, something to that effect. Or even, "May cause Captain Howdy to possess your body and make you barf pea soup all over priests..."


Good one!!!!
GirlInBlack
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Oct 9 2007, 06:37 PM) *
I agree Tru, however in Iron's case, his writings are phenominal whether true or not, and I love reading him. He doesnt encourage others, he explains his way of using it..I wouldnt touch one with a 10 foot poll, but his stories are simply compelling, and amazing. I wuv him... wub.gif



I totally agree. I would love to read some more Mommy transcripts. Even if they are fake, they are darn entertaining to read. I know it is probably a lot of work to type out those old sessions but if you can find the time, please give us a few more.
IronGhost
QUOTE (GirlInBlack @ Nov 8 2007, 01:00 AM) *
I totally agree. I would love to read some more Mommy transcripts. Even if they are fake, they are darn entertaining to read. I know it is probably a lot of work to type out those old sessions but if you can find the time, please give us a few more.


I will provide more MOMMY and other stuff soon. Thanks for you interest and kind words.

P.S. They're not fake.
JustNormal
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Nov 8 2007, 01:26 AM) *
I will provide more MOMMY and other stuff soon. Thanks for you interest and kind words.

P.S. They're not fake.



Nope they sure arent..((Iron)) I so need a MOMMY fix..pretty please? kiss.gif
Belle.
Hmm the conversation between the Neanderthals, MOMMY and Ironghost & Co was facinating - such different perspectives.
Sporkling
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Jun 29 2007, 06:18 PM) *
Perhaps the following Quija board session report will give you an idea about the kind of advice you can get from Quija board "beings"

http://ironghost.wordpress.com/2006/08/18/...e-a-true-story/

its really quite scary and weird when i think of it this way
IronGhost
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Nov 8 2007, 05:07 AM) *
Nope they sure arent..((Iron)) I so need a MOMMY fix..pretty please? kiss.gif


One can only resist the charming JustNormal for so long. Okay, okay, I'll dig up another post and put it here a bit later today.
IronGhost
A lot of people have been e-mailing me and asking about “invisible spirit guides” or companions that might be following us around indeed, I have had a number of experiences with this kind of thing via the Ouija Board. So here is just one session in that regard, and my records say that my “A Team” of Brain and Darcy as recorder worked the session with me. Note: I was asking the questions, so I presumed the entity was referring to me, and not to Brian or Darcy.

Opening Statement: We send greetings out into the unlimited expanses of the Universe. Who would speak with us?

ASNWER: I AM HERE.

Question: Wonderful! Who are you?

ASNWER: YOUR COMPANION. NONIVASIVE.

Question: What do you mean by “noninvasive“?

ANSWER: I AM A COMPANION, BUT I DO NOT PRESUME TO INVADE.

Question: What do you mean? First of all, what do you mean when you say you are a companion?

ASNWER: I AM YOUR COMPANION. NONINVASIVE.

Question: How long have you been with me?

ANSWER: I AM YOUR COMPANION. NONIVASIVE. I TRAVEL WITH YOU.

Question: How interesting. Why are you a companion to me?

ANSWER: IT IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE A COMPANION.

Question: I can understand that. Perhaps I wouldn’t mind having a companion. You could make perhaps make yourself known to me, and I might not object. What do you think?

ANSWER: OH NO. I AM YOUR COMPANION. NONIVASIVE.

Question: So you say you are with me all the time?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Again I ask, how long have you been my companion?

ANSWER: I JOINED YOU ON YOUR JOURNEY, AND I STAYED.

Question: What journey are you talking about?

ANSWER: WITH YOUR FRIEND.

Question: Which friend are you talking about?

ANSWER: THE KILLING MACHINE.

Question: Oh my God! You have got to be kidding me! Was it the mantra journey?

ANSWER: YES.

(Note: If you want to know what this is all about, it would be easier for you to go here:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=85280

to get the background on the journey the Companion is talking about in this case).


Question: I was wondering. Do you know if The Killing Machine is dead?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Do you mean “No, The Killing Machine is not dead”?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Wow!! I have to admit, that is stunning! Can I speak with The Killing Machine?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.

Question: But you know that The Killing Machine is not dead. Can you tell me where it is, and how I can communicate with it? I would very much indeed like to speak with The Killing Machine. Can you please help me with this.

ANSWER: THIS IS NOT MY VENUE. PERHAPS ASK MOMMY.

Question: Wow! So you know about MOMMY? You blow my mind!

ANSWER: I AM YOUR CONSTANT COMPANION. NONIVASIVE.

Question: What can you tell me about MOMMY? Who is she, really? What does she look like? What is she, exactly?

ANSWER: ASK MOMMY.

Question: Are you afraid of MOMMY?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Are you really MOMMY pretending to be my companion right now?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: So you have been listening in to my other communications?

ANSWER: IF YOU OBJECT, I WILL NOT.

Question: I guess I don’t mind. But why do you hang around me all the time?

ANSWER: TO BE A COMPANION. NONINVASIVE.

Question: So you hang out with me. But what else do you do? What is your nature? What kind of being are you?

ANSWER: I HAVE FORGOTTEN. IT’S BEEN SO LONG, I CAN’T REMEMBER.

Question: Are you materialized in physical reality somewhere?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.

Question: Well, if you could look at yourself, or see yourself, if you know what I mean, what would you look like?

ANSWER: I WEAR A HELMET.

Question: That’s interesting. What kind of helmet?

ANSWER: AN IRON HELMET WITH ICE ON IT.

Question: Why is there ice on your helmet? Are you materialized in a cold land?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW. I ALSO PERCEIVE THAT I WEAR A BREASTPLATE OF BLACK ARMOR, OF COLD IRON. IT HAS ICE ON IT.

Question: This is very interesting. So, if you wear a helmet and armor, then you must have a physical body as well. Do you?

ANSWER: I DON’T THINK SO.

Question: How about this. You say you wear an iron helmet and body armor. Perhaps you were once a soldier or warrior from a northern land, such as a Viking, or some sort of Norseman. Now you are a ghost, or something. Could that be the case?

ANSWER: I DON’T THINK SO. I DON’T REMEMBER.

Question: So, when you hang out with me all the time, what is that like for you?

ANSWER: IT IS COMPANIONSHIP.

Question: As my companion, are you like a guardian spirit -- that kind of thing?

ANSWER: NO. I AM A COMPANION. NONIVASIVE.

Question: Would you help me out if you thought I needed help?

ANSWER: YOU DON’T NEED ANY HELP.

Question: So let me get this straight. I go about my daily life, doing whatever I do. You stay with me all the time, and you are just sort of there experiencing what I experience? Is that basically it?

ANSWER: SOMEWHAT. I DON’T EXPERIENCE WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE. I AM YOUR COMPANION. NONINVASIVE.

Question: But don’t you ever go anywhere else, or do anything else, or have your own life?

ANSWER: I AM YOUR COMPANION. NONINVASIVE.

Question: Do you draw something from me, such as my life force, or my chi?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Maybe you do and you don’t know it.

ANSWER: NO.

Question: Do I draw from your life force?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: So, you would not say you are a sort of parasite, if you’ll forgive the question?

ANSWER: PARASITE IS NOT ACCURATE. WE ARE COMPANIONS. I AM NONIVASIVE.

Question: Am I invasive to you?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of purpose to our relationship, from my point of view. What do you think of this my opinion on this matter?

ANSWER: UNDERSTANDABLE.

Question: Please don’t be insulted, but in a way you remind of a “Pet Rock.” It’s as if I found a small rock that I liked for some vague reason, picked it up, put it in my pocket, and then carried it around with me for the rest of my life, and for no particular reason. In other words, I just carried around a small rock, just to have a rock in my pocket. What do you think of my metaphor?

ANSWER: APT.

Question: But doesn’t this bother you at all?

ANSWER: NO.

Question: I must admit I am intrigued by your notion that you wear a helmet with ice on it, and some body armor, though you don’t have a body. Perhaps I could help you get in touch with your true origins. Would you like that?

ANSWER: I AM UNDEMANDING.

Question: I’m not sure what you mean. But I’m not saying you are making any demand on me. I am simply offering to help you find out about your true nature because it would be interesting for me to do so.

ANSWER: THE TASK MAY BE INFINITE.

Question: But what if it would lead to an awakening for yourself -- a rediscovery of who you are, or who you once were?

ANSWER: I AM UNDEMANDING.

Question: Yes, you certainly are undemanding and noninvasive, I‘ll grant your that.

ANSWER: THANK YOU.

Question: What I’m really wondering is, why are you speaking with me at all tonight? It seems that it would make no difference to you if we spoke or not, or if I even knew of your existence. Why speak to me now? Why not just maintain your existence as my silent, noninvasive companion?

ANSWER: IT IS NOT A CHOICE. WE ARE JUST SPEAKING.

Question: But certainly you are choosing to speak to me right now, and in the past you have chosen not to speak to me. This suggests to me that you have some decision making energy within you, which means you have some motives or volitions, which means you must have some deeper meaning to your existence - -otherwise you would not be making choices, such as the choice to remain a silent companion, and then decide to be a communicating companion.

ANSWER: SOMETIMES YOU SEE A RAINBOW IN THE SKY, SOMETIMES YOU DON’T. IT’S NOT A CHOICE OR A DECISION.

Question: So what you seem to be saying is that certain conditions have suddenly become just right tonight for us to began communicating, and that it’s more a matter of circumstance that any conscious volition on your behalf, or my behalf?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: But didn’t you chose to be my companion?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Well that means that you have some purpose or motives or volition, doesn’t it -- and to have even a vague motive would imply a background against which such a motive would need to be displayed -- and that background would be a more fundamental ground to your being, and thus a clue to your identity. Isn’t this correct?

ANSWER: YES, BUT IF YOU DROPPED A ROCK INTO THE SUN, IT WOULD MELT, AND COULD YOU EVER GET THAT ROCK BACK?

Question: Perhaps not, but you’re not a rock. You are communicating to me with consciousness. If I dropped your consciousness into the sun, would it melt and lose its original form?

ANSWER: THERE IS A SUN FOR THE MIND.

Question: Yes, but yours had not been dropped in it yet, or else how else would you be communicating with me.

ANSWER: I NEVER SAID IT WAS.

Question: Are you enjoying our conversation.

ANSWER: I INTERACT WITH MY COMPANION.

Question: But do you enjoy it?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.

Question: There’s a certain amount of frustration in speaking with you, but please don’t be offended by my statement. How about this: Perhaps you were a warrior of some kind, in some ancient past -- somehow you died, say in a cold mountain area, and you froze to death wearing your body armor. Now you are a spirit, and you still perceive your body where it rest under the ice, with ice on your helmet and breastplate. What do you think?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW.

Question: Okay, what about this. You are some kind of soldier or warrior on a different planet or in a different dimension. You are being kept artificially frozen by your commanders, and they will come to thaw you out when they need your services as a warrior. Does this sound likely to you?

ANSWER: IN THE SENSE THAT ANYTHING IS LIKELY.

Question: We began to grow fatigued and so must end soon. But a couple of more questions, if you will. What was it about my journey with The Killing Machine that caught your attention and prompted you to become my companion.

ANSWER: THE CONDITION BECAME RIGHT.

Question: Ah, like the rainbow thing again?

ANSWER: YES.

Question: Well, do you at least have a name?

ANSWER: I DON’T KNOW. I AM YOUR COMPANION. NONINVASIVE.

Question: I guess “Companion” is a good enough name for anyone, or anything. Thank you Companion, and I welcome you to stay in my world. I would gladly have a companion.

ANSWER: THANK YOU.

Question: Good-bye, Companion.

ANSWER: GOOD-BYE.
JustNormal
QUOTE (IronGhost @ Nov 8 2007, 02:30 PM) *
One can only resist the charming JustNormal for so long. Okay, okay, I'll dig up another post and put it here a bit later today.



AWWW I wuv you Iron.. wub.gif
fylgja
I think you are communicating with my ex...aside from the whole body armor thing.
JustNormal
QUOTE (fylgja @ Nov 8 2007, 11:48 PM) *
I think you are communicating with my ex...aside from the whole body armor thing.



Why, because he was an noninvasive companion? JN
GirlInBlack
It is interesting how a lot of your sessions seem to tie into your past in one way or another, or the entities that contact you know you in some way before they speak up.

I have never used a Ouija board before because my mom forbid it when I was growing up. She was scared of them. I guess that is why I find these so fasicnating to read.
IronGhost
QUOTE (GirlInBlack @ Nov 9 2007, 05:59 AM) *
It is interesting how a lot of your sessions seem to tie into your past in one way or another, or the entities that contact you know you in some way before they speak up.


This observation is more profound than you know! It's totaly amazing to me how events in my life that I assumed had absolutely no connection to my "Ouija Hobby" tend to tie in, envelope and support each other.

Many, many patterns began to emerge when I examine the whole body of work -- the 40 years of recorded information. A computer genius friend of mine wants to input all session data into one massive file, and then run a program that will find patterns and organize information in such a way as to see the entire body of data as a whole.

I only hope I can find time for this project some day.
Lady_Anvilabeel
Cool IronGhost, that seems quite an interesting thought that a computer prog could be designed to do such a thing yes.gif
Ichthus
I admit I didn't take the time to read through all of this thread and this doesn't help the OP, but the general subject reminded me of something that happened to my friend (I have not had any Ouija experiences, myself):

One night he apparently decided to get three people together for an Ouija board experiment. Two would use the board, one would write down what was being said. They immediately were able to contact a spirit who claimed he was once a young man and was now suffering his fate in hell. Of course, this alarmed everyone. The spirit then went on to tell them that two other spirits were in contact with the board and each would take turns talking to them as they went back for their "lashings." My friend was confused and asked the spirit to explain. The spirit explained that his fate in hell was to take turns with the two other spirits in lashing eachother with a razor-sharp whip and in turn getting lashed, and that was why only one of them could talk at a time - the other two would be doing the deed.

The truly creepy part of this story is that my friend claims that each time one of the spirits would say he had to go take his lashings and another one would come, the planchette would fly off the board and slam against the wall. Hmmm.
HUYI
wow IronGhost your stories are absolutely amazing, i've read through every page in this topic, it has taken me 2 days to do so but it has been worth it, you seem so connected with the board and you get so much out of it, i've used the ouija board on various occasions in my life (since i was about 9) and i have never got a reading like that, there was one time where i was at my old house and with a group of friends and we used the ouija board, we contacted a spirit who was haunting my house, he seemed friendly and actually didn't mind me being there, a lot of stuff did happen in that house prior to me using the board that's why we made a ouija board to get in contact with it, i don't remember much of the reading as it was a few years ago but i know it was a very intense one.

when i did my first reading when i was 9 i do remember it vaguely that we used a glass and a piece of paper with the all the letters e.t.c and i remember the glass actually moving by itself, i don't know if people who were accompanying me at the time were moving it but it did seem scary at the time.

as for using ouija boards, i see them as a way to channel with spirits or entities of any kind, just like someone would use tarot cards and the crystal ball, it's just another way to contact the "unknown" for many 100's of years in history there has been various ways to contact the dead and the ouija board is just one of them in my opinion, i myself, occasionally use the tarot cards and do readings and they are always right, i've used pendulums too which is similar to the ouija board and i seem to get results that way.

also i actually remember using a ouija board in this house where i live now only to find that this house is haunted too, when i asked how many spirits were present the board said there was 40 spirits in my home 0_0, it was no surprise because there is a graveyard not far from my house anyway. i've never had any very bad experiences using the ouija board yet.

as i was reading your posts i was going to ask you at the end if you had ever contacted your spirit guide and it seems you actually have, it's a shame you didn't get much info but it's good to know that you succeeded in doing so, i've always wondered about my spirit guide, i know they are with you throughout your own life and maybe i will contact mine one day, I'm just curious why would your spirit guide be with you and just observe? maybe it's with you to try and learn something from you, like a spiritual journey, just like we are on a spiritual journey on earth.

most of the spirits you talk to seem to talk with so much wisdom and intellectual speech, it's amazing, they even have a sense of humour lol the mommy entity is just amazing, it's a shame we have no idea what she is like or what she is, i was thinking she may be some kind of angel or something she may be on a much higher realm than ours and may have existed for eons as she speaks with so much wisdom, she seems to have the ability to access anywhere in time, yet time serves no purpose where she is, truly amazing, i know that the spirits are absolutely right when they say there is no sense of time in the spirit world, it's just a thing us humans invent to keep track of things i guess.

those ouija board sessions questions my knowledge of what is actually out there, there must be so many realms of existence that are parallel to our world and other places.

when you contacted the little girl who said she was in a dream state and the mexican guy who said he was in a dream state after death, it made me think about life after death, just think about all the people who die suddenly from murder and accidents, what happens to them, do they end up in this "dream state" where they don't know they are dead? this confirms that some spirits do actually remain earth bound after they die, some move on to the next plane of existence to be reincarnated e.t.c but these spirits seem to be in this dream state of mind like us when we have a lucid dream...

which brings up my second point, when we sleep and are in a dream state, i've always believed that we are simply out of our bodies in that duration of time we sleep but are unaware of it because we are dreaming, like a trance, but if we break that cycle and actually know we are aware it's a dream we can do as we please and go anywhere aka astral projection, that's why it clicks so well with that story you told about those 2 spirits.

i'm also curious, have you tried to contact the entities of animals? i wonder if they would have a voice and would they be aware like humans would be aware, in terms of communicating and such, after all there much be a place where they must go after they pass on.

you really must make all your stories into a book, i would buy it in a instant, yeah i know it would probably take a long time as you have loads and loads of notes and tapes and stuff but it would be a truly amazing book and i think everyone should hear about your stories as it gives more insight about the positive use of the ouija board, everyone seems to be so negative about it and there is always fear when anyone talks about the use of a ouija board.

also when i hear about the bad stories of the ouija board of people dieing and stuff like that it does seem very scary, that's what has put me off using it over the years, but your stories seem to make me want to use it again, you make it seem like using the ouija board is just harmless and very positive.

and about your first story when you were a kid, you said when you asked the ouija board when you were going to die and it never came true, perhaps all the stuff it said could be from a past life regression? just a thought, but what the ouija board said was very specific though.

another thought, you said you contacted the beings of love (which was a amazing story truly) maybe there are different forces for the elements too? like earth air fire and water? there is a love entity or being so maybe there is a hate one too? i can relate to that woman too, i've had so many relationships over the years and wish to be in a long term relationship but i've always been disappointed, i've hated love so much that i've decided not to ever marry which is sad, but that's how i feel, i wish they were shimmering for me too lol when the entities said to put all your past lovers all in a room like that, i just thought about how intense that would be, the energy would be crazy i would think, i've had about 10-15 boyfriends and they have all ended in heartbreak, cheating lying despair, it's hard to truly believe that i have "helped the love of the universe" with so much bad things out of my failed relationships.

but what you said at the end made sense, i shouldn't really go looking for love, love will find me, as it's hard to grasp it, i just have to wait till my time comes i guess, i'm 25 this year in december, unmarried and have no kids of my own, it does get kind of depressing though.

anyways thank you for such good information about the ouija board and your stories, it has been a great read, i hope that you can post more in the future and i will be looking forward to it.
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