If you look below my post you'll see the title of an article I constructed on creative dreaming and the website to read it on, so I'm already up to par on what you are saying, I also highly believe in telepathy, and have experimented with certain telepathic techniques, being already filmilar with my own higherself, shadow self and various other archtypes I harbour, I could tell the difference between communicating with myself and someone else, and it was surely someone else. Did you know that all writers bare the natural ability to telepathically communicate, therfore being able to pass along inspirational ideas. There is even a natural telepathic bond between family members and a strong one between a mother and her children that has been created since their birth. I believe it was spiritual psychologist Carl Jung who empashized that we are all connected, we share images within a unconscious collective - that being the subconscious, and writers tap into their subconscious and pull to the conscious rich detail imagery, people, conversations and settings. It's great to hear from you again Iron Ghost;)

Very much enjoyed your article on creative dreaming -- you covered all the major bases effortlessly, and with clear non-nonsense writing style.

The kinds of things you write about in that article are the very kinds of things I have been thinking about for years on end. I'm also a huge fan of Jung, whose worked has informed so much of my own explorations of the dream world. Jung was on the right tracl with his theory of the collective unconscious -- what he lacked was a proper mehanism that could explain how it could be so -- but I think now we are beginning to get a model of the universe which can explain how a universal field of information can exist, and which anyone can tap into -- be it in the dream state, or otherwise.

I hope you write a lot more of this good kind of stuff -- I think the world needs a book from you, too, if you haven't already put one out.

P.S.

Like your dangeous new avatar

I have a question about this Ouija board thing, is it possible to contact a demon or devil through such a device by accident of course (i mean who would purposly look for 1?)

and i've been thinking about using one should i? or do you not recomenned it?

In 40 years of using the Ouija, it is only natural that I have dealt with the aspect of demons many times.

Just a few weeks ago, someone in these forums issued a very specific challenge for someone to purposefully contact a demon, and ask it to do nasty things to one's self or members of one's family.

I did this, and the result is here:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...9043&st=105

I think the above session shows that what you get with the Ouija board and what you expect to get are often two differrent things.


EDIT: I should say, it's remarkable how many people are concerned with demons in relation to the Ouija board, and how few seem to consider the supposed opposites of demons -- angels.

It's always demons! demons! demons! Why not angels! angels! angels!

Maybe angels are just not as interesting -- however, in addition to conjuring demons, I have also made effort to contact angels.

In a number of fascinating Ouija session, we asked to speak with beings who would identify themselves as angels. Maybe I will post of one my "angel sessions" to balance out the "demon session" I have posted here.

EDIT: I should say, it's remarkable how many people are concerned with demons in relation to the Ouija board, and how few seem to consider the supposed opposites of demons -- angels.

It's always demons! demons! demons! Why not angels! angels! angels!

Maybe angels are just not as interesting -- however, in addition to conjuring demons, I have also made effort to contact angels.

In a number of fascinating Ouija session, we asked to speak with beings who would identify themselves as angels. Maybe I will post of one my "angel sessions" to balance out the "demon session" I have posted here.

ok wel thank you for the information, however is it possible to contact something like o what was it now dam i forgot... well then lets rephrase this What kind of Beings can you contact useing a Ouija board?

cause i've been think about trying one but im not shure i also have other questions like What is the possiblity i will contact a demon instead of what im looking for or What are the chances i get to contact some1 famous? please let me know

boring

Toys R Us or make your own. Its not that hard.

You know what you said got me to thinking, if ouija boards are so dangerous why do they sell them in a kids store? Once again we are being directed back to misconception, fear and ignorance...My belief is thoes who wish, fear or are eager to contact a demon will do so, by there own will, but if you don't think in thoes terms than like Iron Ghost you will have no problems exploring and enjoying what the ouija has to offer....

Yep. Easy to get them. Also easy to find out information about them.

I have no worries about them actually. Perhaps because I don't believe in demons. I used to want to explore them more, but I have found more interesting things to check into now.

LOL... Yeah me to, I found Angels so much more intersting, and uplifting, I feel the world doesn't need my doom and gloom, it has enough of it's own... So, I rather feed the forces of good my brain power and creativity...

and chocolate!

Talking boards can sometimes be found on eBay and Amazon for reasonable prices (I got a Psychic Circle for 8 bucks including shipping), a few sites have examples and instructions on making your own boards, from wood to paper - mine is among them, go to the site in my sig link below, click on the "Talking Boards" page in the right sidebar menu and download and unzip the file and try it out.

I just tried my first Ouija board experience, made our own out of cardboard and permanent marker, used an empty shot glass as the planchette

First attempt, we got "QD YES" but we were on a slanted hill at the time, so we attribute that to it.

Second contact, we got a name. "OSIRIS."

Third contact (this time we had 4 people), we asked if we were still talking to Osiris. We received a firm "YES." We proceeded to ask why it was here, and it replied, "ANUBIS." The man asking the questions suddenly got afraid because he realized that Anubis is the name that he used for e-mails, game names, etc, plus ancient mythology ties Anubis and Osiris a lot.

Another guy sitting at our table couldn't take it any longer and knocked the planchette off the table in a spasm of fear, and we concluded the session. Strange. It was an interesting experience, I just hope that since I did it outside nothing will come into my house. Because I'll be pissed. I like my house. It's small, but if any entity tries to make it its new home, he's going to have to answer to my fly swatter.

Hahahaha. I've found its pretty common for "personal" names, identities and alter-ego personas to pop up in a Ouija board, and it usually does freak out the owner, sometimes because the owner does something ill-advised like abstractly "split" themselves into "good" and "bad" parts, using different names for each - this can tend to be problematic and interfere in future sessions - if this is the case, firm and direct measures need to be taken, both with the person, urging them to "reassimilate" and accept themselves as a whole, and with any problematic board gremlins that try to get attention.

Anubis and Osiris and names like that occur a lot in any paranormal related endeavor so its not wholly unexpected.

It's great to have a ouija board expert close by, the first ouija board I had made I used it to connect to a little girl who had died in the house I was living in, her and her family were killed by a drug dealer who had broke in to rob them, once I realized she was trying to gain my attention, I tried to connect with her through mediation and dreams but all had failed, so I created the board and asked her to speak to me through it, I invited her to a session, and afterwards passed her into the light.

Were you able to confirm that she had indeed, lived and died in your house?

LMAO, yes, choclate is good too, and it's an excellent stimilant....

what about caffine? we cant forget good old caffine now can we?

do you think it would be possible to contact a deity via the Ouija board? you know just out of curiosity

Or to later clarify that such tricks can not be performed based on it is the users of the board who are behind the movement. To be argued....I am sure.

Not to belabor this point, as I guess I have already done so many times -- but the question of what is moving is actually very complex when you look at it very deeply.

All movement as we seem to experience in reality is not really what we think it is. All movements, whether it be the planchette on an Ouija board, of the movement of a flag waving in the wind, when folowed in a chain of events back to their original causes leads down a very strange path.

Of course, a flag doesn't really move -- you might safely say the wind is moving the flag. Yet we get used to saying: "The flag is waving in the wind." But the flag cannot move on it's own, the wind needs to move the flag. But then, what is moving the wind? Can the wind move "on it's own"? The answer is clearly "no". For the wind to move, energy must be added to the system from outside -- the sun needs to heat the earth causing the gases in the atmosphere to become excited -- so the wind doesn't really "move" -- like the flag being pushed around by the wind, the wind is being pushed around by the sun and the motions of the earth. But does the sun, then "move" by itself -- what caused the fusions reactions in the sun in which hydrogen and helium atoms are forces to break down, release their energy and cast off a net emission of one gamma ray photon -- but do these events "move" of themselves -- the answer is always "no" the atoms of the sun are forced together by the tremendous weight of gravity, compacting them, crushing them down, forcing them into nuclear reactions, with which they counter the effects of gravity and causing the sun to blow back outward against all the pressure --- and so on.

So, anyway, to say that the "mind" or the "unconscious" mind is moving the planchette is really not saying anything at all or is not explaining anything. In common terms, it is tempting to say "the mind is moving the planchette" -- but then people cheat by calling an end to the process there -- what's moving the mind, which in turn is moving the planchette -- is it the brain? The chemicals coursing through the brain "acting" as a miraculous thing called "thought"?

The fact is, the planchette does not move. The mind appears to move the body and the body appears to move the planchette -- but the mind and body could not move without an endless chain of events that have their root in something much more difficult to understand. That mysterious "something" is the ultimate source of the communications, such as they exist or not, or appear to exist or not -- or both exist and not exist at the same time -- or not exist at all.

That seems to be putting the cart before the horse, ascribing all kinds of high-minded and mystical attributions and ominipotence to spirits and such, while relegating us "mere" living humans to being the equivalent of fleshy, glorified FM radios.


So when we're alive, we're barely better than two tin cans and a crummy piece of string, randomly picking up signals from superior minds we cannot fathom, but after we die, we somehow obtain all kinds of wacky cosmic powers, super intelligence and wisdom, precognition and any other extra "kewl powerz" that anyone would care to add to the psychical laundry list.


Why is it more plausible for some people to believe that invisible spooks are sending messages through a boardgame, than we, as the sentient, intelligent and dominant species of earth, able to think and abstract on levels unavailable to any other creature, may be responsible for results from so-called "spirit communication"?

A seance and Ouija board do not always go hand and hand. Ouija boards are known to have very negative effects once the "game" is over. Many times when these are used, it can bring in some nasty spirits and maybe worse. If you and your little sister are dabbling with the occult, all I have to say is, be careful what you wish for.I would say instead of using seances and Ouijas, search within yourself, and get the true results. If you have other questions regarding time travel and other demensions, just check online and get different opinions and then make up your own mind. Good Luck...JN

Okay, I have an Quija board that is about 45 years old, which I have messed around with off and on for years. I discovered that with some people, I can't make the thing do anything, but whenever my buddy Brain and I give it a go, the thing really gets us in contact with a lot of weird stuff on "the other side."

Neither Brian nor I believe we are moving the oracle, even subconsciously. We take turns being blindfolded while we ask questions and get answers. So I called up Brian last night, he came over, we had a couple of drinks, watched the Minnesota Twins kick the s**t out of the Detroit Tigers, then got out the Quija Board to see if we could get some answers for OuijaBoy.

So here are the result fo our session. I'll put the answers of the Entity we contacted in ALL CAPS for everyone's convenience.

First Question to the Board: "We are seeking the guidance and wisdom of an advanced, intelligent entity -- does anyone care to make contact with us?

Answer: SPEAK.

Question: Hello! This is Ken and Brian. We are human beings on the planet earth. We are physical beings. Who are you?

Answer: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, 'WHO ARE YOU?'

Question: We mean, what is your name? How do you identify yourself?

Answer: YOUR QUESTION MAKES VERY LITTLE SENSE. EXISTENCE IS EXISTENCE.

Question: Don't you have an individual identity? We mean, are you one of many?

Answer: YES, ONE OF MANY.

Question: So how do you identify yourself as opposed to others? That would be your specific name?

Answer: IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED PRIMITIVE AND VULGAR TO EVEN CONSIDER AN INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY HERE.

Question: So you are a being who is one of many, but you have sort of a group mind?

Answer: NO. YOU APPARENTLY ARE OPERATING ON A LOWER TIER OF CONSCIOUSNESS WHICH MAKES FALSE DISTINCTIONS BASED ON THE PRIMACY OF INDIVIDUALITY.

Question: Yes, that's probably true. Here on earth, we all have individual egos, but also consider ourselves members of a group or species of creatures, which we call human beings. But we are okay with it -- does this bother you?

Answer: YOU ARE BIZARRE BUT NOT UNKNOWN.

Question: Well, be that as it may, and since you are apparently on a higher plane of development than our species, will you please answer some important questions for a friend of ours?

Answer: YES.

Question: Do you have a physical existence, or are you a creature composed of pure energy?

Answer: AGAIN, YOU MAKE FALSE ASSUMPTIONS. PHYSICAL MATTER IS ENERGY. ENERGY IS PHYSICAL MATTER. DISTINCTIONS ARE ILLUSIONS OF THE LOWER ORDERS.

Question: Great! We think we know what you mean! What planet to you live on? Are you connected to our planet earth in some way?

Answer: THIS IS YET ANOTHER VERY INANE QUESTIONS FOR WHICH THERE CAN BE NO ANSWER SINCE YOU DON'T SEEM TO BE CONCEIVING OF YOUR REALITY IN THE PROPER WAY.

Question: Sorry. Okay, now here are the questions posed by our friend. First of all, Does God Exist?

Answer: DEFINE GOD.

Question: Well, over here there is much debate about what God is or is not, but let's just say that most people think God is the supreme entity that created the universe, all life, all reality, and ourselves.

Answer: THIS A CONCEPT OF PURE NONSENSE -- A COMMON PERSISTENT ILLUSION OF LOWER ORDER BEINGS -- THE ILLUSION IN GENERATED BY THE FALLACY OF SEPARATION AND INDIVIDUALITY.

Question: Okay, well take that as an answer. Thank you. Now, is there a soul?

Answer: DEFINE SOUL.

Question: Well, here on the planet earth, people make a distinction between what is physical and what is spiritual. A lot of people think that they have a kind of energy form that rides along inside their physical body, and will survive after the physical body dies. So, is there a soul?

Answer: HAVE YOU BEEN LISTENING AT ALL? THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT IS PHYSICAL AND WHAT IS ENERGY. TO SAY THAT A PHYSICAL BODY HAS A SECONDARY ENERGY BODY WITHIN IT IS LIKE SAYING THAT AN ICE CUBE HAS WATER IN IT.

Question: How do you know about ice and water?

Answer: BECAUSE OF YOUR LOWER LEVEL OF DIMENSIONAL EXISTENCE, THERE IS MUCH YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND.

Question: Well, it seems like you are pulling our legs here then, because you needed to ask for definitions of concepts like God and the soul, yet you seem perfectly aware of ice and water.

Answer: YOU HAVE NO LEGS TO PULL.

Question: Whatever, we have a couple of more questions. Is time travel possible?

Answer: DEFINE TIME TRAVEL.

Question: This is the ability to go backwards or foreward in time. Time is a dimension in our existence which is inextricably connected to space. It would be more correct to call it spacetime. We measure time at an arbitrary rate, which we admit is artificial -- it's based on the movements of our planet as it rotates and thus causes separations between periods of light and dark. We use this to make a distinction between one period of time and another period of time -- although the rate of time has actually been shown not to be constant -- for example, the rate of time flow slows down as one speeds up through space and vica versa. Also, time is relative, and also, our scientists are unsure if time has an objective existence in fact - -that is -- independent of its conceptualization by the human mind. So, is there time travel?

ANSWER: YOUR NOT EVEN SURE IF TIME EXISTS, AND YOU WANT TO KNOW IF YOU CAN TRAVEL THROUGH IT? IF YOU WOULD ONLY LISTEN TO YOURSELVES, YOU WOULD SOUND INSANE.

Question: Perhaps. Okay, here is the last question from our friend. Are there other dimensions? And in this case, we are assuming our friend is talking about different realms of existence, each of which contain their own worlds, and are separate from each other, discrete from each other, and yet, communication between them may be possible. For example, we assume that you are in another dimension and that we are speaking to you through a special tool we call an Ouija Board -- this device along with out human minds acts as a conduit between your dimension and ours. Thus, since you are there and we are here, there must be other dimensions, right?

Answer: WRONG, STUPIDLY WRONG. ONCE AGAIN, YOUR OBSESSION WITH EGO-BASED REALITY FRAMING, A REDUCTIONIST VIEW OF EXISTENCE AND MANY OTHER ILLUSIONS THAT CAN'T BE EXPLAIN TO YOU MAKE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU THINK, KNOW AND BELIEVE TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN PURE NONSENSE.

Question: Okay, thank you for that answer, and thank you for communicating with us. Sending love and greetings from our dimension to yours, good-bye.

Answer: GOOD-BYE.


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This is a typical type os session we get -- you never know what kind of strange being you are going to get on the other side, and their answers tend to leave one wanting -- although it is interesting.

Wallys said being dead is great, and where he is now has all the good stuff without al the bad stuff -- and it's just like being on earth, but so much better. he says he will probably live that existence for at least a 1,000 years before he goes into the light, where he is afraid he will be absrobed into the "group mind" of God Consciousness, and does not want that.

The only straight up answer "IT" really gave you was that God didn't exist...I find this very interesting.

It's up to each individual as to whether they want to believe what any blathering Ouija entity says, or not.

I don't get bent out of shape by what Ouija beings say. I just think it's interesting to see what they have to say.

So Wally knows what time is??