Razer
Jun 30 2007, 12:04 PM
Those that might have the most information on extraterrestrial life are probably the ones who can't tell their stories. The government does a good job of policing this sort of thing. For those that served in the government in some capacity have all signed non disclosure agreements that last longer than they will probably live.
So where do we go for the answers in you opinion?
bluelight
Jun 30 2007, 12:07 PM
goes to the question why hide it? I applaude countries that openly admits to the existence itself and actuallly don't cover it up. But countries like the USA, It astound me to why they need to hide it?
To avoid public panic is not a good excuse since, People are far more panicky to things that are known but yet being cover up like that >.>
it's annoying to have people who actually have proof and yet get visits by MIB or some military govt personnel. threatened with their life and such.
if you get what i mean
Alienated Being
Jun 30 2007, 01:05 PM
What the American government thinks is keeping us safe, is just pissing us off more - we have the right to know about extraterrestrial intelligence in our airspace. It's not much of a secret now, due to the hundreds upon thousands of reports each year...
lost_shaman
Jun 30 2007, 02:50 PM
QUOTE(Razer @ Jun 30 2007, 07:04 AM)

Those that might have the most information on extraterrestrial life are probably the ones who can't tell their stories.
Actually many people talk of 'contact' and 'channeling'.
I personally don't buy a word of it. I've had my own close encounter with a UAP.
QUOTE(Razer @ Jun 30 2007, 07:04 AM)

The government does a good job of policing this sort of thing. For those that served in the government in some capacity have all signed non disclosure agreements that last longer than they will probably live.
So where do we go for the answers in you opinion?
We turn to Science! There are actually Scientists that are looking seriously at UAP.
brothers
Jun 30 2007, 03:14 PM
The U.S. government can keep the secret because most of the people here really do not care about such things unless it right in their faces. Therefore, no matter how many times we complain (the ones that believe) will do no good. Actually I cannot wait for the real thing to happen. It will have to change the whole outlook in life and hopefully for the better.
Please Explain
Jun 30 2007, 11:29 PM
Only the one's who don't see ufo's are complaining.
greggK
Jun 30 2007, 11:52 PM
QUOTE(Razer @ Jun 30 2007, 06:04 AM)

Those that might have the most information on extraterrestrial life are probably the ones who can't tell their stories. The government does a good job of policing this sort of thing. For those that served in the government in some capacity have all signed non disclosure agreements that last longer than they will probably live.
So where do we go for the answers in you opinion?
I'm sorry, I can't tell ya.
malakiem
Jul 1 2007, 04:02 AM
QUOTE(lost_shaman @ Jun 30 2007, 10:50 AM)

Actually many people talk of 'contact' and 'channeling'.
I personally don't buy a word of it. I've had my own close encounter with a UAP.
We turn to Science! There are actually Scientists that are looking seriously at UAP.
What's a uap? I still would like to know what the big deal is. Would the truth be that earth shattering, or would it just damn us all? I don't get it, if your willing to face the truth about it, the government still doesn't tell you. I wonder if we can find the truth without us expiring?

dmurdock36
Jul 1 2007, 04:28 AM
Here is a thought, what if the the us military really were the first to get there hands on an ufo and were able to reverse engineer just enough of it to be able to, well have a major advantage over other civilizations, that makes us the big man on the block, now what if by using this technology, that they hide not just from us, but from everyone, they are able to recover ufo's that crash in other countries so they cant get there hands on that technology, that puts us on top that would be a good secret to keep, just a thought. I do however think a lot more is known about this phenomenon than is being told, and I dont think there is any way for us to ever know the truth.
Jjbreen
Jul 1 2007, 04:33 AM
QUOTE(bluelight @ Jun 30 2007, 05:07 AM)

goes to the question why hide it? I applaude countries that openly admits to the existence itself and actuallly don't cover it up. But countries like the USA, It astound me to why they need to hide it?
To avoid public panic is not a good excuse since, People are far more panicky to things that are known but yet being cover up like that >.>
it's annoying to have people who actually have proof and yet get visits by MIB or some military govt personnel. threatened with their life and such.
if you get what i mean
What countries have come actually come forward and admitted their dealings and the confirmed existance of ET's??

I know of no country that has come forward and clearly stated: We have been dealing w/ET's now for X amount of years/decades.
Not one.
skyeagle409
Jul 1 2007, 04:55 AM
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jul 1 2007, 04:33 AM)

What countries have come actually come forward and admitted their dealings and the confirmed existance of ET's??

I know of no country that has come forward and clearly stated: We have been dealing w/ET's now for X amount of years/decades.
Not one.Let's see, government officials in several countries around the globe have revealed that some UFOs are extraterrestrial flying vehicles, including military officials in Iran, Chile, India, and even those here in the United States, and the President of Brazil went public when evidence found that the Trindade UFO was authentic. There are a number of other countries as well.
Over the years, more and more government officials around the globe have been coming forward and stating for the record that some UFOs are indeed, extraterrestrial vehicles.
bluelight
Jul 1 2007, 06:35 AM
+ China, Russia, France too
keithisco
Jul 1 2007, 07:57 AM
I think that since last week you can add the British Crown Dependencies of Jersey and Guernsey as well.
Mr Walker
Jul 1 2007, 08:14 AM
This is one of the sections of UM I rarely respond to, beause despite some experiences in the "religious" and "paranormal" areas i have no personal experience with ET,s Given 50 years of fascination and reading on the subject ,in both the scientific and science fiction genres, this is an on going disappointment.
On a practical note, however, it is most unlikely that we could make much use of alien technology. Given the physical realities of inter system travel, let alone intergalactic, it would require technologies way beyond our present abilities. For example, the ability to bend space time, create folds in space, or utilise/create black holes. While aliens could theoretically travel at sub light speeds, the economic and other rewards to do so would not justify the time and expense.
At the moment we are just developing the ability to hibernate humans in a form of deep sleep which would allow us to travel possibly to the nearest stars, if we could attain near light speeds. However, this is not stasis, and we cannot get anywhere near the speeds required.
Therefore those travellers who have arrived here are using technology we cannot duplicate. Trying to reverse engineer it would not be like American "indians" trying to reverse engineer the Santa Maria, and sail back across the atlantic. It would be like them trying to reverse engineer that ship into a space shuttle and fly to the moon. Both the conceptual and the technical difficulties would make such a task unattainable. Perhaps if a complete craft was available, we might have the same chance as the native americans would have had of both sailing ,and navigating, the Santa Maria safely back across the Atlantic.
Other than getting there under our own steam, the best chance of reaching the stars is in a cooperative venture with the "aliens" Even then we would be a little bit like those native peoples the Europeans took away from the new world back to Europe.
. Alexandros .
Jul 2 2007, 01:59 AM
look, they are pissing me off aswell, with all these coverups and stuff, were not stupid, but maybe its for the own good of that secret, for instance if the US governenment actually gave out the secrets and location of a UFO crash, millions and millions of people will be flocking to that destination and who knows what people like us will do to it.
bluelight
Jul 2 2007, 08:31 AM
QUOTE(. Alexandros . @ Jul 2 2007, 09:59 AM)

look, they are pissing me off aswell, with all these coverups and stuff, were not stupid, but maybe its for the own good of that secret, for instance if the US governenment actually gave out the secrets and location of a UFO crash, millions and millions of people will be flocking to that destination and who knows what people like us will do to it.
you forgot. Roswell crash as famous as it is, isn't the only ufo crash that's available. There's a few other in other countries. Russia (if I remember right) for example, had one, and they didn't cover it up. There's no flockees to that place either. Sure there are curious people, but it's not as bad as people thought it would be.
sometimes i hit a thought where, them aliens are not that vicious since, the govts in our own world insist spending all useful money to go on with all these wars all over the world, then spending it to actually be peaceful and ready together, if there is going to be any attack. But then again, maybe all these war are just some fiasco to smuggle money into hidden projects, or worse! their own pockets =/
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