The floods that have devastated swathes of the country are God's judgment on the immorality and greed of modern society, according to senior Church of England bishops.
One diocesan bishop has even claimed that laws that have undermined marriage, including the introduction of pro-gay legislation, have provoked God to act by sending the storms that have left thousands of people homeless.
While those who have been affected by the storms are innocent victims, the bishops argue controversially that the flooding is a result of Western civilisation's decision to ignore biblical teaching.
The Rt Rev Graham Dow, Bishop of Carlisle, argued that the floods are not just a result of a lack of respect for the planet, but also a judgment on society's moral decadence.
"This is a strong and definite judgment because the world has been arrogant in going its own way," he said. "We are reaping the consequences of our moral degradation, as well as the environmental damage that we have caused."
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Kind of amusing that the church will tell people this and to listen to the bible when they have refused to kill any gays as instructed in the bible.
I don't get it though... According to this logic it's fine for god to murder men, women and children... But it's not alright for human beings to become good human beings and be tolerant of gays.
Full Version: Floods are judgment on society, say bishops
I thought god wasn't allowed to take wrath upon us after the flood.
American preachers have been saying this for decades. But imagine if they banned homosexuality tomorrow, what would future floods be blamed on?
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 12:46 PM) 
Kind of amusing that the church will tell people this and to listen to the bible when they have refused to kill any gays as instructed in the bible.
Of course not, the murder of gays isn't condoned at all by the Bible, and there is no biblical justification for doing so.
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 2 2007, 12:48 PM)
I thought god wasn't allowed to take wrath upon us after the flood.
He said he wouldn't destroy the world with a flood.
It always amazes me when someone attempts to say, in the face of tragedy or terror, from a pulpit no less, "We earned it!" In this case, gods drowning people because god made homosexuals and now he's mad about that.
Amazing!
And I agree. If gays disappeared from the face of the Earth tomorrow, there would be someone else for someone to say gods wrath is deserving of. Or gods making people suffer because a certain other kind of people live on the planet and that's wrong and so we deserve the newest disaster that befalls us. Just like Falwell and Robertson said about 911, being the sign god is angry because America is too liberal. God is love, but you'd never know it to hear some of those that minister in his name claim he's hate, vengeance, etc... Tragic! Truly.
Amazing!
And I agree. If gays disappeared from the face of the Earth tomorrow, there would be someone else for someone to say gods wrath is deserving of. Or gods making people suffer because a certain other kind of people live on the planet and that's wrong and so we deserve the newest disaster that befalls us. Just like Falwell and Robertson said about 911, being the sign god is angry because America is too liberal. God is love, but you'd never know it to hear some of those that minister in his name claim he's hate, vengeance, etc... Tragic! Truly.Please note that the floods are only occurring in the "red" states. I rest my case.
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 07:57 PM)
Of course not, the murder of gays isn't condoned at all by the Bible, and there is no biblical justification for doing so.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
But thats old testament, does it not count?
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Please note that the floods are only occurring in the "red" states. I rest my case.
Gods punishment for taking the bible literally?
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 02:57 PM)
Of course not, the murder of gays isn't condoned at all by the Bible, and there is no biblical justification for doing so.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
QUOTE(Cradle of Fish @ Jul 2 2007, 01:01 PM)
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
But thats old testament, does it not count?
But thats old testament, does it not count?
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 01:02 PM)
Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
People who use such scriptures to justify themselves in hatred are not Christian, the Bible clearly says so.
QUOTE(Cradle of Fish @ Jul 3 2007, 04:01 AM)
Please note that the floods are only occurring in the "red" states. I rest my case.
Gods punishment for taking the bible literally?
Gods punishment for taking the bible literally?
Or gods punishment for re-electing Bush, who said god told him to run the first time and invade Iraq. Maybe god's saying, "You're wrong boy! Now learn how to swim!"
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 2 2007, 07:48 PM)
I thought god wasn't allowed to take wrath upon us after the flood.
No,God said that he would not flood the world again,He still has the right to take wrath on us any other way he sees fit,Like fire and pestalence.
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 03:05 PM)
People who use such scriptures to justify themselves in hatred are not Christian, the Bible clearly says so.
Wait... What? People following the bible's own words aren't real christians now?
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 01:07 PM)
Wait... What? People following the bible's own words aren't real christians now?
*sighs* I wouldn't expect you to understand, your looking from the outside in, and as a result can't see. Plus your limited knowledge of the Bible is also part of your anti-Christian agenda.
QUOTE(GoddessWhispers @ Jul 2 2007, 08:06 PM)
Or gods punishment for re-electing Bush, who said god told him to run the first time and invade Iraq. Maybe god's saying, "You're wrong boy! Now learn how to swim!"
God's saying, "So, you think evolution isn't miraculous, huh? You don't want your kids learning how I made mankind because it isn't good enough, huh? Learn to swim, losers!"
Ah those Abrahamics, always proving me right, as I said in an earlier thread:
Christians are people who get upset at company's that say Happy holidays in winter, Christians are people who try and restrict people's rights, Chrisitans are people who brainwash their kids into being "warriors for Jesus", Christians are people who say 9/11 was god's retribution on the U.S.
Christians are people who get upset at company's that say Happy holidays in winter, Christians are people who try and restrict people's rights, Chrisitans are people who brainwash their kids into being "warriors for Jesus", Christians are people who say 9/11 was god's retribution on the U.S.
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 01:07 PM)
Wait... What? People following the bible's own words aren't real christians now?
No it's "this part of the bible is ok to follow because its suits my situation, but you cant use this one cause if you do than im breaking a rule".
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 03:09 PM)
*sighs* I wouldn't expect you to understand, your looking from the outside in, and as a result can't see. Plus your limited knowledge of the Bible is also part of your anti-Christian agenda.
Understand what? You just basically said that people following the bible aren't real christians. What evidence do you have to back this up?
I may not know the bible by heart but I seem to know enough.
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 2 2007, 03:19 PM)
No it's "this part of the bible is ok to follow because its suits my situation, but you cant use this one cause if you do than im breaking a rule".
That's what I was thinking too.
QUOTE(Siara @ Jul 2 2007, 08:01 PM)
Please note that the floods are only occurring in the "red" states. I rest my case.
An astute observation. The red states are also the ones that get the hurricanes first. I think we should all include this in our Daily Meditations.
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 2 2007, 01:19 PM)
No it's "this part of the bible is ok to follow because its suits my situation, but you cant use this one cause if you do than im breaking a rule".
Actually, it's not.
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 01:19 PM)
Understand what? You just basically said that people following the bible aren't real christians. What evidence do you have to back this up?
I didn't say people following the Bible aren't Christians. I said those who seek to justify themselves using those verses aren't Christians. I have given you evidence before of where the Bible says this. Do you need more?
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I may not know the bible by heart but I seem to know enough.
Not really.
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 03:31 PM)
I didn't say people following the Bible aren't Christians. I said those who seek to justify themselves using those verses aren't Christians. I have given you evidence before of where the Bible says this. Do you need more?
Why aren't they?
If a christian justifys their community service or donation to a childrens fund based on the teachings of the bible and such... Why are they real christians then when those people here who justify their actions and thoughts on the very same bible are not real christians?
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 03:31 PM)
Not really.
Guess that's a matter of opinion.
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 01:31 PM)
Actually, it's not.
If you gonna try and defend your statement, you better come to the table with something better than "actually, it's not."
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 01:40 PM)
Why aren't they?
If a christian justifys their community service or donation to a childrens fund based on the teachings of the bible and such... Why are they real christians then when those people here who justify their actions and thoughts on the very same bible are not real christians?
If a christian justifys their community service or donation to a childrens fund based on the teachings of the bible and such... Why are they real christians then when those people here who justify their actions and thoughts on the very same bible are not real christians?
Because the Bible clearly says that those who try to justify themselves via the Law (aka the first 5 books of the Bible) are not Christians.
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 2 2007, 01:40 PM)
If you gonna try and defend your statement, you better come to the table with something better than "actually, it's not."
Why should I defend myself against something I know isn't true? I'm not picking and choosing, you said I am. What evidence do you want from me to show that I am not picking and choosing?
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 03:51 PM)
Because the Bible clearly says that those who try to justify themselves via the Law (aka the first 5 books of the Bible) are not Christians.
Where does it say that? Post the verse.
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 01:56 PM)
Where does it say that? Post the verse.
QUOTE(Galatians 5:4-5)
If you seek to be justified and declared righteous and to be given a right standing with God through the Law, you are brought to nothing and so separated (severed) from Christ. You have fallen away from grace (from God's gracious favor and unmerited blessing).
For we, [not relying on the Law but] through the [Holy] Spirit's [help], by faith anticipate and wait for the blessing and good for which our righteousness and right standing with God [our [a]conformity to His will in purpose, thought, and action, causes us] to hope.
For we, [not relying on the Law but] through the [Holy] Spirit's [help], by faith anticipate and wait for the blessing and good for which our righteousness and right standing with God [our [a]conformity to His will in purpose, thought, and action, causes us] to hope.
To me that just seems like a way to increase their power.
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 07:46 PM)
The floods that have devastated swathes of the country are God's judgment on the immorality and greed of modern society, according to senior Church of England bishops.
One diocesan bishop has even claimed that laws that have undermined marriage, including the introduction of pro-gay legislation, have provoked God to act by sending the storms that have left thousands of people homeless.
One diocesan bishop has even claimed that laws that have undermined marriage, including the introduction of pro-gay legislation, have provoked God to act by sending the storms that have left thousands of people homeless.
If God were upset about the gays He would have activated the San Andreas Fault and made California drop into the sea. Or He should have flooded Amsterdam (an easy thing to accomplish since it's already at sea level). Or how about a glacier conveniently swallowing up Scandinavia?
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QUOTE(Galatians 5:4-5)
Though you're suppose to judge others and justify yourself...
John 7:24 - Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.
Though with your understanding of the bible, christians would be forced to disregard the 10 commandments, as they're in the OT. Everything in the OT would become invalid to christians to use.
Though Jesus agrees with the 10 commandments and the ot laws...
Matthew 5
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 02:42 PM)
Though you're suppose to judge others and justify yourself...
John 7:24 - Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.
John 7:24 - Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.
But what do you judge by? You judge by knowledge of that person. John 7:24 could just as easily be translated as "Don't judge a book by it's cover".
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Though with your understanding of the bible, christians would be forced to disregard the 10 commandments, as they're in the OT. Everything in the OT would become invalid to christians to use.
Jesus was asked about them once, and Christ named them as commandments.
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Though Jesus agrees with the 10 commandments and the ot laws...
Matthew 5
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5
17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
He hasn't abolished it, it's still there, but we are free from it's limits and restrictions. We are free to live by our choice, and not have to worry about sacrificing animals. Gay people are allowed to live openly without worrying about being stoned. Jesus didn't abolish it he relieved us from it.
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 04:50 PM)
But what do you judge by? You judge by knowledge of that person. John 7:24 could just as easily be translated as "Don't judge a book by it's cover".
Yet Jesus told others to judge. Even by "Don't judge a book by it's cover" it means you have to judge the content rather than the cover.
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 04:50 PM)
Jesus was asked about them once, and Christ named them as commandments.
So the rules of god still stand. Though as the verse I mentioned earlier about killing homosexuals was giving to Moses by god himself in Leviticus 20. So only rules of god you like stand where the others do not?
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 2 2007, 04:50 PM)
He hasn't abolished it, it's still there, but we are free from it's limits and restrictions. We are free to live by our choice, and not have to worry about sacrificing animals. Gay people are allowed to live openly without worrying about being stoned. Jesus didn't abolish it he relieved us from it.
If that were true it would be then also wrongful of christians to spread the word of christ. If christians do they are judging their beliefs higher than the beliefs of others... So doing christs work would be therefore against christ because they're judging.
So according to you they won't get stoned but then homosexuals will just spend forever in hell... Assuming they don't confess and repent. That's not intolerant to you?
God doesnt like gays because it is against wat He says. and because its supposed to b MAN AND WOMAN, NOT MAN AND MAN, or WOMEN AND WOMEN! gay ppl probably hav it all in their heads. People of themselves made them think they r more attracted to the same sex. its creepy wat people are doing these days.
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 03:07 PM)
Yet Jesus told others to judge. Even by "Don't judge a book by it's cover" it means you have to judge the content rather than the cover.
Exactly. The issue here isn't judging.
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So the rules of god still stand. Though as the verse I mentioned earlier about killing homosexuals was giving to Moses by god himself in Leviticus 20. So only rules of god you like stand where the others do not?
The rules of God stand, but not the Law. You didn't read the verse? When I said Christ named them as commandments, I was reffering to the ten. He didn't say the law. He named 6 of the ten, and then he gave the love commandments. There is no justification for the murder of homosexuals in the Bible, and you can't try and twist it to make it look like there is, without completely obliterating the context of the verses.
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If that were true it would be then also wrongful of christians to spread the word of christ. If christians do they are judging their beliefs higher than the beliefs of others... So doing christs work would be therefore against christ because they're judging.
No actually they aren't, and judging isn't a sin.
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So according to you they won't get stoned but then homosexuals will just spend forever in hell... Assuming they don't confess and repent. That's not intolerant to you?
I'm sorry, but I didn't say this in any of my posts. You would do well to actually read a person's posts before responding. Don't read more into my words than what's there. What I say is what I say, plain and simple.
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Exactly. The issue here isn't judging.
... Yeah, it is. Christians judging gays.
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The rules of God stand, but not the Law. You didn't read the verse? When I said Christ named them as commandments, I was reffering to the ten. He didn't say the law. He named 6 of the ten, and then he gave the love commandments. There is no justification for the murder of homosexuals in the Bible, and you can't try and twist it to make it look like there is, without completely obliterating the context of the verses.
So the rules of god aren't the laws of god as well? God was just suggestinng Leviticus 20?
Yeah, there is... Leviticus 20 states so. There isn't anything you have shown that says the ot isn't valid to christians.
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No actually they aren't, and judging isn't a sin.
So they can judge all they want using the bible as their platform. So this idea of saying that because of immorality and tolerance of others is causing god's wrath to kill men, women and children with floods is... Sound according to the bible because you're allowed to judge.
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I'm sorry, but I didn't say this in any of my posts. You would do well to actually read a person's posts before responding. Don't read more into my words than what's there. What I say is what I say, plain and simple.
Well christians belief sinners go to hell... Gays are sinners if they act on their urges... So they get send to hell according to christians. But as you want to twist and say christians don't stone people to death... So instead of being stoned to death as punishment... Gays are just going to spend forever in hell. Nice.
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 2 2007, 04:28 PM)
... Yeah, it is. Christians judging gays.
So the rules of god aren't the laws of god as well? God was just suggestinng Leviticus 20?
Yeah, there is... Leviticus 20 states so. There isn't anything you have shown that says the ot isn't valid to christians.
So they can judge all they want using the bible as their platform. So this idea of saying that because of immorality and tolerance of others is causing god's wrath to kill men, women and children with floods is... Sound according to the bible because you're allowed to judge.
Well christians belief sinners go to hell... Gays are sinners if they act on their urges... So they get send to hell according to christians. But as you want to twist and say christians don't stone people to death... So instead of being stoned to death as punishment... Gays are just going to spend forever in hell. Nice.
So the rules of god aren't the laws of god as well? God was just suggestinng Leviticus 20?
Yeah, there is... Leviticus 20 states so. There isn't anything you have shown that says the ot isn't valid to christians.
So they can judge all they want using the bible as their platform. So this idea of saying that because of immorality and tolerance of others is causing god's wrath to kill men, women and children with floods is... Sound according to the bible because you're allowed to judge.
Well christians belief sinners go to hell... Gays are sinners if they act on their urges... So they get send to hell according to christians. But as you want to twist and say christians don't stone people to death... So instead of being stoned to death as punishment... Gays are just going to spend forever in hell. Nice.
Because you insist on nagging at what I have not said, I will just post the verse concerning the law once more, and than argue with you no further, heck I'll even add it to my siggy.
QUOTE(Galatians 5:4-5)
If you seek to be justified and declared righteous and to be given a right standing with God through the Law, you are brought to nothing and so separated (severed) from Christ. You have fallen away from grace (from God's gracious favor and unmerited blessing).
For we, [not relying on the Law but] through the [Holy] Spirit's [help], by faith anticipate and wait for the blessing and good for which our righteousness and right standing with God [our conformity to His will in purpose, thought, and action, causes us] to hope.
For we, [not relying on the Law but] through the [Holy] Spirit's [help], by faith anticipate and wait for the blessing and good for which our righteousness and right standing with God [our conformity to His will in purpose, thought, and action, causes us] to hope.
I agree with Kratos here, but I don't think there is any point trying to argue with child-of-Israel.
Apparently there is something in the bible that he read that says,
no matter how many facts are against you your still right.
Apparently there is something in the bible that he read that says,
no matter how many facts are against you your still right.
QUOTE(theprotecter23 @ Jul 2 2007, 11:12 PM)
God doesnt like gays because it is against wat He says. and because its supposed to b MAN AND WOMAN, NOT MAN AND MAN, or WOMEN AND WOMEN! gay ppl probably hav it all in their heads. People of themselves made them think they r more attracted to the same sex. its creepy wat people are doing these days.
Ever thought that God created Gays to contoll the population ?? Anyone??
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 2 2007, 04:46 PM)
I agree with Kratos here, but I don't think there is any point trying to argue with child-of-Israel.
Apparently there is something in the bible that he read that says,
no matter how many facts are against you your still right.
Apparently there is something in the bible that he read that says,
no matter how many facts are against you your still right.
Except there are no facts against me at this point...
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jul 2 2007, 04:54 PM)
Ever thought that God created Gays to contoll the population ?? Anyone??
No that would be the government, not god.
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Ever thought that God created Gays to contoll the population ?? Anyone??
Why would he need to do that? God has no problem in the past for starting wars, giving plagues or murdering people so why would he have to make gays for population control when he could just let lose a new disease or something?
Why doesn't he just flood out the Kathy Griffin shows if he hates them so much.
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 3 2007, 12:55 AM)
No that would be the government, not god.
How does the goverment create gays??
If god hates gays, why did he make them? Infact, why didhe make anyone who does not follow his word? Why didn't make the entire world one big Christian religion? Why doesn't he smite me right now for even questioning such beliefs?
In my viewpoint, its Christians that are the problem, not homosexuals.
In my viewpoint, its Christians that are the problem, not homosexuals.
QUOTE(m. Moe @ Jul 3 2007, 01:01 AM)
If god hates gays, why did he make them? Infact, why didhe make anyone who does not follow his word? Why didn't make the entire world one big Christian religion? Why doesn't he smite me right now for even questioning such beliefs?
In my viewpoint, its Christians that are the problem, not homosexuals.
In my viewpoint, its Christians that are the problem, not homosexuals.
Well christianity is the largest religion there is
God gave people free will ...to make up their own minds
and according to Primeval, he thinks the goverment created gays, this is one explaination i gotta see...
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jul 2 2007, 05:00 PM)
How does the goverment create gays??
I thought you were being sarcastic, so i decided being sarcastic. How would god create gays?
Simmer in some garlic oil for 10 minutes and then let cool?
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 3 2007, 01:07 AM)
I thought you were being sarcastic, so i decided being sarcastic. How would god create gays?
Simmer in some garlic oil for 10 minutes and then let cool?
Simmer in some garlic oil for 10 minutes and then let cool?
Im not in the mood for acting sarcastic...I take these gay threads seriously...and I always take a stand for gay rights
NOW.....
If a number of us believe in God, and believe he is our creator...then some of us will believe he created us all to be different...key word today is - SOME
Next part is not aimed at anyone in particular...
What gets me is how can anyone explain how a persons sexuality is a choice? I cant explain to anyone why I love men...especially tall dark men...i just do.......so the same for gays, they cant explain why they feel attracted to other men, they just are...however some have taken their own lives out of fear of coming out to their loved ones, fear of what may happen if found out...thats sad...but its a sad world we live in..........A straight person cannot explain what it is that makes them feel attracted to certain people...just in the same way, a gay man cant....this is WHY I can neve understand it being sinful................cuz to sin is to CHOOSE to do harm on to others, what harm is a gay doing??
I'm sorry I'm not a mind reader, next time all hit you up on the phone and ask what mood your in before posting (
that was sarcasm, sorry)
that was sarcasm, sorry)
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 3 2007, 01:20 AM)
I'm sorry I'm not a mind reader, next time all hit you up on the phone and ask what mood your in before posting ( that was sarcasm, sorry)
that was sarcasm, sorry)
you do that LOLTo be honest I wasnt sure if it was sarcasim lol I thought you were going to tell me the goverment creates them for blah blah reasons lol sorry about that...but yea im in a sh*tty mood...we women get like that from time to time..and being tired doesnt help
QUOTE(theprotecter23 @ Jul 2 2007, 05:12 PM)
God doesnt like gays because it is against wat He says. and because its supposed to b MAN AND WOMAN, NOT MAN AND MAN, or WOMEN AND WOMEN! gay ppl probably hav it all in their heads. People of themselves made them think they r more attracted to the same sex. its creepy wat people are doing these days.
There are people who go with the fad of things, expressing their selves, free for all sex bla bla, finding who they are, they are "gay" at the moment. Then there are some who have been "gay" even before they knew who they were. They will remain "gay" for their entire lifespan. It's not in their heads, it's part of their biology, their make-up, their design. Then, there are worse, more creepier things out there in the world than two people who care about each other (no matter how you look at, that's how it is)..
& guess what?
God loves them as much as he loves you!
QUOTE(Sunni @ Jul 2 2007, 05:58 PM)
There are people who go with the fad of things, expressing their selves, free for all sex bla bla, finding who they are, they are "gay" at the moment. Then there are some who have been "gay" even before they knew who they were. They will remain "gay" for their entire lifespan. It's not in their heads, it's part of their biology, their make-up, their design. Then, there are worse, more creepier things out there in the world than two people who care about each other (no matter how you look at, that's how it is)..
& guess what?
God loves them as much as he loves you!
& guess what?
God loves them as much as he loves you!
Amen my freind.. i always feel as if i am reading a great philospher when i read your posts sunni ..
Shucks Sheri. see, you make me turn all red and stuff.
QUOTE(Beckys_Mom @ Jul 2 2007, 05:26 PM)
you do that LOLTo be honest I wasnt sure if it was sarcasim lol I thought you were going to tell me the goverment creates them for blah blah reasons lol sorry about that...but yea im in a sh*tty mood...we women get like that from time to time..and being tired doesnt help
I don't know if i have free long distance to Ireland.
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