FiascoMo
Jul 3 2007, 06:06 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=55...15331&hl=enThis movie examines the history of control in our government. The lies told by the people in charge to keep us under control. It also highlights what might be in store for the future. It is really long but well worth it. It examines 9/11, the Christian religion, the federal reserve bank, and the ways we get into wars. It is a great movie to watch. I'm sorry if this has already been posted but I searched for it.
The-Doctor
Jul 3 2007, 05:47 PM
Wow. I watched the whole thing and all I have to say is wow. I'm not sure how historically accurate the first part is (and I have my father, Ph.D to consult with), but the parts about the government I find very disturbing.
Disinterested
Jul 3 2007, 06:22 PM
Strange, I actually watched some of this on the weekend. Saw the parts about 9/11 and the Banks.
I found the 9/11 part was pretty upsetting, mostly because it seems to really ignore the fact that hundreds of people died on these planes. Let's say if a missle really did hit the Pentagon, then what happened to the 168 people (approx.) who disappeared on that day? Same with the plane that crashed in Shanksville?
Sunofone
Jul 4 2007, 12:53 AM
QUOTE(Disinterested @ Jul 3 2007, 12:22 PM)

Strange, I actually watched some of this on the weekend. Saw the parts about 9/11 and the Banks.
I found the 9/11 part was pretty upsetting, mostly because it seems to really ignore the fact that hundreds of people died on these planes. Let's say if a missle really did hit the Pentagon, then what happened to the 168 people (approx.) who disappeared on that day? Same with the plane that crashed in Shanksville?
i havent seen it yet-- are you saying that the film implies a missle hit the pentagon?
Disinterested
Jul 4 2007, 01:41 AM
Yes, if I remember correctly they don't say it outright but they certainly strongly imply it.
SystemXtc
Nov 16 2007, 01:17 PM
QUOTE (Disinterested @ Jul 3 2007, 07:41 PM)

Yes, if I remember correctly they don't say it outright but they certainly strongly imply it.
I don't recall if they imply during the zeitgeist movie that a missile hit the Pentagon, but I have seen other cultic movies like zeitgeist that do say they believe a missile hit the pentagon. I don't know what happened on 9/11, but I like many other Americans obviously want and need to know the truth. Although, if a missile did hit the Pentagon then what did happen to those people that were on the plane? just dissappear?
Papaver
Nov 16 2007, 01:22 PM
I've seen the Pentagon photos and there are bits of landing carriage, wheels, chunks of engine and other bits of burned out plane lying around.
I don't see why the pentagon wouldn't have been hit by a plane given the fact they hit the towers with planes.
It's hardly far-fetched in light of that and doesn't need a missle as an explanation.
Carcharoth
Nov 16 2007, 01:29 PM
I've seen parts of it, and it's an interesting movie, but IIRC most, if not all, of it has been debunked.
Timon
Nov 16 2007, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (Carcharoth @ Nov 16 2007, 08:29 AM)

I've seen parts of it, and it's an interesting movie, but IIRC most, if not all, of it has been debunked.
Aside from the part about 911 what has been debunked?
bigdog112
Nov 16 2007, 08:26 PM
this video really took what I believed to be truth and added even more to it. I already thought 9/11 was a inside job but this video takes it farther.
Carcharoth
Nov 17 2007, 12:22 PM
QUOTE (Timon @ Nov 16 2007, 04:28 PM)

Aside from the part about 911 what has been debunked?
If I'm not mistaken, the Jesus part has also been debunked.
Disinterested
Jan 18 2008, 03:10 PM
QUOTE (SystemXtc @ Nov 16 2007, 08:17 AM)

Although, if a missile did hit the Pentagon then what did happen to those people that were on the plane? just dissappear?
That's what I keep saying - you can scream until you're blue in the face that it was bombs / missiles, but in the end, there are hundreds of people who were on those planes who just vanished. You can't deny that!
Mekorig
Jan 18 2008, 07:05 PM
QUOTE (Disinterested @ Jan 18 2008, 04:10 PM)

That's what I keep saying - you can scream until you're blue in the face that it was bombs / missiles, but in the end, there are hundreds of people who were on those planes who just vanished. You can't deny that!
There re a lot of ways to "disapear" a person. The USA friends in South America in the 70īs demostrated it.
vince4prez
Jan 18 2008, 07:15 PM
QUOTE (Mekorig @ Jan 18 2008, 07:05 PM)

There re a lot of ways to "disapear" a person. The USA friends in South America in the 70īs demostrated it.
So what your saying is that you give the Bush administration enough credit to be able to pull off something of this magnitude without anyone "spilling the beans." You must really have a lot of faith in their "abilities."
bcar
Jan 18 2008, 07:59 PM
The Jesus theories have been debunked by what? Biblical facts? Scriptural evidence? Wishful thinking on some religious parallelisms does not debunk the theories in their totality, far from it.
As for 9/11, I find it much more logical that what hit the Pentagon was a rigged airplane, as opposed to a missile. Despite the confiscation of video recordings there were witnesses that saw a plane. In all likelihood it's cheaper, but I don't really know. As far as the people aboard the planes... being true that some firemen found a passport for a guy that was still alive... identity theft is easy, and what are the chances the people in the lists will actually find out about it? Btw, were they posted on any public forum?
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