That what i'm about to say
i found it wierd that there was a sudden change during that time. It's like homo sapien sapien just came out from nowhere and dominated everything while the weaker neanderthal remain the same and died due to competition and bad climax.

Another thing is that evolution is a extremely slow process maybe taking 100,000 years just for a gene to mutate but why i don't see other creatures evolve getting smarter but only humans?
Everyone says that we evolve from a primates --> ape ---> human but i don't see any gorilla, monkey etc evolving?

IF homo sapien sapein actually evolve i don't think the process took such short period. Throught my calculation, because of the slow process we are still holding spears, wearing animals skin, eating raw animals because we are still in neanderthal stage.

For my theory that IF there's evolution, extraterrestrial actually interupted the slow process by changing the genes, adding neurons into our brain. (i'm weird)
We called it genetic-engineering

what do you mean out from nowhere? Did the Neanderthals come out from nowhere (there is evidence to suggest that we interbred with neanderthals meaning that there is a level of gene flow, in essence we are all a little neanderthal:P )

Mutations occur all the time, plenty of the mutations are not harmfull (as opposed to what branches of pseudo-science may claim), it is only when a selecting pressure occurs in which evolution will really make a noticable effect. In the case of organisms getting smarter, who's to say that they aren't, and even then, what is there to dictate that evolution has to make them smarter? It all depends on the selecting pressures, as far as i can see, Dogs are doing quite fine at the moment and don't really have the need to become super intelligent uber beings.

Gorillas and Monkeys are essentially our cousins, they've evolved along side with us, so in terms of time, they are just as advanced as us because the selecting pressures that dictated the outcome to their evolution have lead them to that point in the same amount of time as it has for us to get to ours. That said, natural immunities to diseases etc count don't they?

You obviously have no understanding of the subject

I've got nothing against the theory, i just wish for you to explain how you got from "things seemed a little quick (if evolution is actually a real thing), therefore aliens did it"

Star Trek is one of my favs. I like voyager best methinks. But..correct Moe if he is wrong ......isnt Star Trek pure fiction?

I may as well give up. The television is our new bible. whats the use of atonomy when a button does it all?

ummm how can you easily discount him believing in aliens creating humanity when you yourself believe in an unproven supernatural being of even greater magnitude than Aliens...looking at both possibilities, aliens could be considered a realistic option.

SAMD,

This is uncalled for. Please do not insult other members.

this is a not a very well thought out arguement. Of course people created religion. You know why? well.. To put in midly: TO WORSHIP GOD!!

in the end your arguement reads thusly: God does not exist because religion was made by people.

your theory lacks one basic understanding: the people who worship god, believe that god created them. Therefore, to them, god also created religion.
Do you see the theological paradox you have created for yourself? Have fun with that one.
Next time you formulate an arguement against religion, please take the time to study religion as a whole. When you know both sides of the story? Then you are ready to fight.

sure , you think that

• you dont believe in god
• Nor do thousand's upon hundred's of thousand's of other's
• You believe in evolution
• Evolution come's from nature
• Relegion dictate's that nature is created by god
• Nature inlcude's the whole universe
• The Big bang created the universe
• Something else created the big bang
• Something else created whatever created whatever created the bigbang

GOD is the root source a divine almighty being , your supposed to be so based around logic right? it's only logical that all existence began from one point , thing's just dont "happen" okaythe big bang theory is very plausible but who do you think orchestated the big bang?
and i quote
"in the begining there was nothing'"
exactly , there was nothing at all NOTHING then god used his "power" I guess since my mind does not possess a word te describe his "goddlyness"(sp?)
the big bang theory state's that all existence began from one point smaller than the smallest thing in the universe that is known to man , a single atom
the whole universe contained within a single atom, yes science state's it is impossible yet science also state's that is how it happened
god wanted it to be and it was he used something so small to create this large universe that we live in , I wish you luck and hope you understand my argument though I doubt you will because your set in your way's I hold nothing against you and never will , farewell
-Student&Alive

just because religion dictates this doesn't mean its true....in which case the rest of your argument is based on a groundless assumption that what you are saying is correct and proves nothing.

i'd love for you to source that because it doesn't sound like an accurate description of what happened.

Pharoahe ?
Ah-ha. Moe hopes you were paying attention. The formula presented by Bathory is the standard procedure in which a debate occurs. First, you will notice the use of the 'quote' button, as Bathory chooses to debate very specific ideas within said religion. Notice how he is not attacking it as a whole, as doing so will only get him ignored. As in your case, Pharoahe.
At this point Pharoahe, Bathory is using his initial move as bait in order to initiate a debate.
In this case his opponent is Student&alive. Student&alive will likely take the bait out of pity , believing that Bathory's apparent atheism will give him a one way ticket straight to the depths of Hell.
The next lesson grasshoppers: the hypocrisy of accepting the existence of aliens on faith ,yet denying a christian man's faith in religion.
Stay tuned......

the difference is that Aliens are grounded, so to speak by the laws that govern our universe, and that there is a possibility that they may exist, if life can spring up on earth why not elsewhere (whether or not 'aliens' have visited us etc is an entirely different matter), super natural dieties on the other hand have no place in 'our' existence because for all intents and purposes they are said to exist above it all. What we end up with is "Aliens exist because i think it would be arrogant to believe that earth is the only planet in the entire universe to sprout life" vs "I believe there is a supernatural deity outside the realms of our existence because i say so."

There are differing levels of faith:)

interestingly enough moe, I'm also 17:P just a little fuel to the Moe Fire

the end "because I say so" is nothing more than a play on words and holds no relevance other than spite. Although Moe is but an observer in this effort in futility, in all fairness, the equation must be changed to:

"Aliens exist because i think it would be arrogant to believe that earth is the only planet in the entire universe to sprout life because I say so " vs "I believe there is a supernatural deity outside the realms of our existence because i say so."

However, in essence, it is "Carl Sagan" vs. " Billy Sunday"

VS

Who will win this bout of science vs. religion? Stay tuned kids....

What an amazing paradox your posting represents! You say on one hand that you have no intention of being disrespectful to others; while at the same time you in essence call those who do believe any religion idiots! But what makes this interesting is the fact that what you believe is alo a religion. A religion does not have to be formulated in Holy Writings. No. A religion is simply the belief in a persons life that drives their actions and their thoughts; this goes for Christians, Atheist, Hindus, Muslims, Buddist....
So next time you are tempted to post why don't you follow your own advice! Just sit down and think about , and then it will all make sense. And take care; blasting other peoples religion can get extremely messy.
And yes; I do believe that God created all life. And to those who advocate that Aliens created man I ask; who created the Aliens?

dear moe, it holds a great deal more relevance than you may realise. First i'll make it clear that I not really a believer of little green men and such, neither am I a believer of any Religion. Now we've got that out of the way, this is how i see both arguements, People believe in Aliens based on probability, an infinite universe sought of helps this along, somewhere out there may be aliens because an infinite universe with infinite matter holds an almost limitless set of possibilities, life managed to start on its own on earth why not elsewhere. The religious argument on the other hand doesn't use much logic to try and prove anything or at least show the thinking behind how they came to the conslusion that there is a greater being beyond our realm of existence, its basically a statement..."There is a god".

actually religion is the belief in a supernatural power responsible for the creation of the universe...what you are thinking of is philosophy

so in this case, one can follow the Christian philosophy without following the Religion as with the other religions mentioned aside from Atheism which isn't a relgion.

you believe in God, good for you, did you notice your last point? i'll repeat it And to those who advocate that Aliens created man I ask why is it that when someone asks similar of a religion people get all touchy , however to answer your question....Why must there be a creator? Just because you believe God created all life, doesn't instantly mean that God MUST have created life.

Think of it as mental masturbation, or perhaps don't:P As for the notion of people not wanting to listen, if they didn't reply with bad counter arguements it wouldn't continue along the dreaded cycle that most threads which ask question which involve relgion follow.