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Drego
Genarlow Wilson was a seventeen year old high school senior and a star football player when he was arrested for child molestation. He was 17, she was 15, and it was CONSENSUAL. On April 28, 2006, He was given an outrageous 10-year prison sentance after trying to appeal.

Wikipedia:
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A jury acquitted Wilson of raping the older girl, but convicted him of aggravated child molestation against the 15-year-old. The "aggravated" nature of the charge refers to fellatio rather than a mere "immoral or indecent act." Had the two teenagers had intercourse without oral sex, Wilson would have been charged with a misdemeanor, punishable up to 12-months, with no sex offender status, instead of the 10-year minimum term that the judge gave him.


Here are some links for additional information:
http://www.wilsonappeal.com/index.php <- includes an online petition.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genarlow_Wilson
swtp
Talk about wasting the courts time and tax dollars! And then they go and let out the real pedo,s, makes me sick!!! mad.gif
IamsSon
Legally, anyone below the age of 18 is not an adult and is, therefore, unable to give consent to certain things, among them engaging in sexual relations. So, the argument that it was consensual is not a good legal argument.
The Silver Thong
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Jul 4 2007, 08:48 AM) *
Legally, anyone below the age of 18 is not an adult and is, therefore, unable to give consent to certain things, among them engaging in sexual relations. So, the argument that it was consensual is not a good legal argument.


By this argument he wasn't 18 either, so shouldn't both be charged? I don't know of to many people that don't have sex befor turning 18. I think the girls parents are well conected and pissed that there daughter screwed some guy they didn't approve of.
swtp
When i was 16 i married my husband who was then 24, I new exactly what i was doing and we are still togeather, we celebrated 32 years of marriage on june 21st, I sure am glad no one charged him or we might not be togeather now!
Primeval
QUOTE(swtp @ Jul 4 2007, 07:39 AM) *
Talk about wasting the courts time and tax dollars! And then they go and let out the real pedo,s, makes me sick!!! mad.gif



This wouldn't happen in Canada. linked-image
Drego
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Jul 4 2007, 10:48 AM) *
Legally, anyone below the age of 18 is not an adult and is, therefore, unable to give consent to certain things, among them engaging in sexual relations. So, the argument that it was consensual is not a good legal argument.

In my mind, that is WAY too controlling. In a way, that is the government dictating when people are allowed to do certain things based on something that is no proper indicator of (emotional) maturity. I define consent as one individual's willingness to participate and their acceptance of all possible repercussions (sp?). So, no... speaking from a strictly legal standpoint, it is not a good argrument. But I feel that the only way to have a good legal system is to have one where courts look beyond the defined law and therefore, put some kind of effort into their decision. That is the only way they can come to a moral conclusion. Following that logic (and assuming the age of consent is 16, and she is a willing partner), a sixteen year old can have sex with a fifteen year old the day before her "sweet sixteen" and serve a prison sentance of 25-life for statutory rape. Doesn't that seem a bit ridiculous? I know that these laws were placed with good intent, but they go more harm than good when looked at with that "logic".
Drego
QUOTE(The Silver Thong @ Jul 4 2007, 10:57 AM) *
By this argument he wasn't 18 either, so shouldn't both be charged? I don't know of to many people that don't have sex befor turning 18. I think the girls parents are well conected and pissed that there daughter screwed some guy they didn't approve of.
the legal age of consent is 16 in Georgia.

QUOTE(swtp @ Jul 4 2007, 10:59 AM) *
When i was 16 i married my husband who was then 24, I new exactly what i was doing and we are still togeather, we celebrated 32 years of marriage on june 21st, I sure am glad no one charged him or we might not be togeather now!
Congradulations original.gif
The Skeptic Eric Raven
I think alot of us would have put in jail at 16 or 17 if the law was followed like this. I would never have gotten out. This is crap. Unfair.
The Silver Thong
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Jul 4 2007, 09:19 AM) *
I think alot of us would have put in jail at 16 or 17 if the law was followed like this. I would never have gotten out. This is crap. Unfair.


I hear ya
Lilith Incarnate
And there was that story where that guy was aquitted or got a VERY shory term jail sentance for molesting /raping that 10yr old girl because she was "wearing provocative clothing" That is total BS!! this 17yr old guy did NOT deserve such a harsh sentance. Yet the other guy got off with barely a slap on the wrist.... There is something really wrong here....
DДrk_Lotu§
wow just wow unbelievable I'm glad i live in canada
raistlan316
I think someone hit the nail on the head earlier. The parents of the girl were apparently well connected and pissed. I know of several cases where the guy was an adult in their 20's, 30's, and even 40's that got a MUCH lesser punishment for the same (or much worse) thing. There was a case recently in California where the guy was 30 something and the girl was 14 he got a few months with a suspended sentence and probation.
glorybebe
QUOTE(darrkmoonbride @ Jul 5 2007, 08:35 AM) *
And there was that story where that guy was aquitted or got a VERY shory term jail sentance for molesting /raping that 10yr old girl because she was "wearing provocative clothing" That is total BS!! this 17yr old guy did NOT deserve such a harsh sentance. Yet the other guy got off with barely a slap on the wrist.... There is something really wrong here....


I thought it was bloody ridiculous when I read it too. I think they should take into consideration the ages of the two people involved. I read of a mother who hated her daughter's boyfriend and just couldn't wait until he was 18 so that she could charge him with rape, even though her daughter had been in the relationship with him for over a year. There looks to be too many ways to abuse these laws.
NatalieK
Un-freaking-believable. I tell you, when I was in high school (only a few years ago) it was all about having older boyfriends, even now you constantly see younger girls in their older boyfriends cars. It is so ridiculously common that the jails would be absolutely packed if every guy with an underage girlfriend came forward. And most guys (not all of them, but definitely most) would not have such girlfriends if there was nothing sexual involved. Whoever said the parents are behind this, absolutely. This sort of stuff is so common everywhere you look, that the only reason this particular couple received this much attention was because someone obviously demanded it *looks pointedly at girl's parents*
KBA
The modern legal system is a joke.

This reminds me of a case in which a teenage girl got charged with child pornography because she had nude pictures of herself on her computer.

These ridiculous cases happen as murderers and actual sex offenders run free.

RTK
Well I think you guys said it all, I only wish I had. I have been following this ridiculous case for a while... how idiotic. But yeah, this wouldn't happen in Canada.
Lilly
Something seems really fishy here (to me anyway).

Take a look at this link. This seems so absolutely egregious that I'm left wondering exactly what the motivation really is here? Frankly, I'm inclined to wonder. Let's look at a couple of things: 1) This young man is African American. 2) The race of the young lady is not mentioned 3) This all went down in the State of Georgia (deep south USA).

Now, I'm not one to run and scream *racism* but in this particular case I'm inclined to really wonder. Anyone know anything about this aspect of the case?
wolfwoman


A Consensual Act:

Between a 17 year old and 15 year old ....without intercourse, a 10 year sentence way to severe.... yes.gif

Just because their both under age....I heard he had a promising "Football" career...what a shame..

Why more dangerous criminals get less time.....
Teh_Twilight_God
as Lilly said this could be racism most likey is too that and a bad legal system hopefuly it works out for the guy in the end but we will just have to wait and see
Lilly
QUOTE(Teh_Dark_God @ Jul 8 2007, 10:18 AM) *
as Lilly said this could be racism most likey is too that and a bad legal system hopefuly it works out for the guy in the end but we will just have to wait and see


Well, something certainly doesn't seem to be *right* with this case. There's either more information that we're not aware of, or it appears that a severe miscarriage of justice has gone down. Leaves me wondering why the ACLU (if it is racially based) hasn't become involved?
Bill Hill


Awwwhh poor guy.I don't think he was old enough to realize he was acting like a pedophile..
I mean, I certainly didn't know the difference between right and wrong at seventeen years old.
Nevermind he's been released.
Harmon-E Cherry

What percentage of the population has committed this particular crime? 60%...80%... ?
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Lilly @ Jul 6 2007, 12:33 PM) *
Now, I'm not one to run and scream *racism* but in this particular case I'm inclined to really wonder. Anyone know anything about this aspect of the case?


Good old wiki.
Wilson had been convicted of aggravated child molestation because, at the age of seventeen, he had engaged in oral sex with a willing fifteen-year-old at a New Year's Eve party. Both Wilson and the fifteen-year-old are African American

The conviction was based on an amateur video tape showing Wilson engaging in sex with a 17-year-old girl during a private party, and later receiving oral sex from a 15-year-old girl.[3][4] The video shows the 17-year-old girl on the bathroom floor, then later having sex with Wilson. She appeared sleepy or intoxicated during the sex act but did not ask Wilson to stop. [5] Waking up naked and in a stupor the next morning, she claimed to have been raped.[4] Investigating the alleged rape, police later found condoms and evidence of drinking, as well as the video camera, in the motel room used for the party

Bill Hill

This Guy Wilson sounds like a sleazy predator...
Drego
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 8 2007, 11:48 AM) *
Good old wiki.
Wilson had been convicted of aggravated child molestation because, at the age of seventeen, he had engaged in oral sex with a willing fifteen-year-old at a New Year's Eve party. Both Wilson and the fifteen-year-old are African American

The conviction was based on an amateur video tape showing Wilson engaging in sex with a 17-year-old girl during a private party, and later receiving oral sex from a 15-year-old girl.[3][4] The video shows the 17-year-old girl on the bathroom floor, then later having sex with Wilson. She appeared sleepy or intoxicated during the sex act but did not ask Wilson to stop. [5] Waking up naked and in a stupor the next morning, she claimed to have been raped.[4] Investigating the alleged rape, police later found condoms and evidence of drinking, as well as the video camera, in the motel room used for the party


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The conviction was based on an amateur video tape showing Wilson engaging in sex with a 17-year-old girl during a private party, and later receiving oral sex from a 15-year-old girl.[3][4] The video shows the 17-year-old girl on the bathroom floor, then later having sex with Wilson. She appeared sleepy or intoxicated during the sex act but did not ask Wilson to stop. [5] Waking up naked and in a stupor the next morning, she claimed to have been raped.[4] Investigating the alleged rape, police later found condoms and evidence of drinking, as well as the video camera, in the motel room used for the party.


Ah, the power of Bold... yes.gif

Oh wait, what's this? It appears there was a footnote next to Billy's bold quote. Let's look at the source.

Here's a quote from [4]:

"When he was a senior in high school, he received oral sex from a 10th grader. He was 17. She was 15. Everyone, including the girl and the prosecution, agreed she initiated the act. But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex."

This Girl [anonymous "rape victim"] sounds like a hypocrite...
Drego
QUOTE(glorybebe @ Jul 5 2007, 11:47 AM) *
I read of a mother who hated her daughter's boyfriend and just couldn't wait until he was 18 so that she could charge him with rape, even though her daughter had been in the relationship with him for over a year.

This lady sounds like a real monster. Some people just don't deserve kids... no.gif
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 8 2007, 06:38 PM) *
This Girl [anonymous "rape victim"] sounds like a hypocrite...


Absolutely right.. we've all been there... Nothing wrong with having sex with a drunken 17 yr old.. video taping it.. and then getting sucked off by a 15 yr.
All part of growing up..
I just so glad he's been released, I hope he sues because of the terrible injustice he's endured. Or course being Black, also by default makes him a victim of racism. ohmy.gif
Drego
He hasn't been released yet, and likely won't be. But Perhaps Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton can use their superpowers (fighting racism where it doesn't exist) to get him out.

There's no racism here, just stupidity. Hell, the constitution doesn't say anything about excessive punishment, does it?
Lilly
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 8 2007, 03:48 PM) *
Good old wiki.
Wilson had been convicted of aggravated child molestation because, at the age of seventeen, he had engaged in oral sex with a willing fifteen-year-old at a New Year's Eve party. Both Wilson and the fifteen-year-old are African American

The conviction was based on an amateur video tape showing Wilson engaging in sex with a 17-year-old girl during a private party, and later receiving oral sex from a 15-year-old girl.[3][4] The video shows the 17-year-old girl on the bathroom floor, then later having sex with Wilson. She appeared sleepy or intoxicated during the sex act but did not ask Wilson to stop. [5] Waking up naked and in a stupor the next morning, she claimed to have been raped.[4] Investigating the alleged rape, police later found condoms and evidence of drinking, as well as the video camera, in the motel room used for the party


Thanks 'billy' this is exactly the "more information" I was referring to. Obviously, (if this info is true) then this is not something having to do with racism at all. The manner in which the information was originally presented made me wonder...I'm no longer wondering. It still seems to me that 10 years in prison is excessive though. That said, it also seems to me that this young man was seriously out of control (as were the young women as well). I suspect it was the video that served to garner him that long sentence.
NatalieK
QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 9 2007, 03:38 AM) *
Here's a quote from [4]:

"When he was a senior in high school, he received oral sex from a 10th grader. He was 17. She was 15. Everyone, including the girl and the prosecution, agreed she initiated the act. But because of an archaic Georgia law, it was a misdemeanor for teenagers less than three years apart to have sexual intercourse, but a felony for the same kids to have oral sex."

This Girl [anonymous "rape victim"] sounds like a hypocrite...


There were two girls involved though. The anonymous rape victim is the 17-year-old girl who "appeared sleepy or intoxicated," and the 15-year-old is the one who initiated oral sex. Most girls at 15 will do just about anything for a guy, especially if he's older and popular, they're infatuated and make stupid decisions. He may have been acquitted of raping the 17-year-old girl because she didn't tell him to stop, however obviously that tape and both sex acts will be used as evidence when sentancing him and will influence how the people behind the decision view him. He may have received 10 years for the consensual oral sex act alone, however the rape scenario would have played a major part in it, influencing how people view his character. No doubt people would have been disgusted in him and out to make him pay.

After the info billyhill posted, I have to say he sounds like a real sleaze and deserved to be punished (imo for what he did to the 17-year-old, clearly it's wrong to have sex with someone laying on the bathroom floor almost unconscious. To me, that's rape). 10 years however is a bit extreme, when you compare it with the mediocre jail-time others receive for things like murder.
bigdog112
here so ya can get the numbers right each state http://www.actwin.com/eatonohio/gay/consent.htm It seems she was just 1 year under teh legal age down there.

I found that site after a girl I met online told me she was 17 after I had already had sex with her 3 times. She told me from the start that she was 19 she even had a ID wich was fake. Didn't know it at the time lol luckily she was legal in Illinois
Drego
QUOTE(n_a_t_a_l_i_e @ Jul 9 2007, 01:55 AM) *
There were two girls involved though. The anonymous rape victim is the 17-year-old girl who "appeared sleepy or intoxicated," and the 15-year-old is the one who initiated oral sex. Most girls at 15 will do just about anything for a guy, especially if he's older and popular, they're infatuated and make stupid decisions. He may have been acquitted of raping the 17-year-old girl because she didn't tell him to stop, however obviously that tape and both sex acts will be used as evidence when sentancing him and will influence how the people behind the decision view him. He may have received 10 years for the consensual oral sex act alone, however the rape scenario would have played a major part in it, influencing how people view his character. No doubt people would have been disgusted in him and out to make him pay.

I have no pity or sympathy for girls like that. I'm not saying he was completely innocent... but ten years is absolutely inexcusable. It makes 21st century America look like 17th century Europe.

"He may have been acquitted of raping the 17-year-old girl because she didn't tell him to stop..."

I'm sorry, but... what do you mean here?
swtp
I told my mom about this, she laughed and said with this kind of thinking both her and my dad should be in jail as well as just about every person who was ever a teenager in every city,town and country in the world! If anyone thinks this is right they must also believe we are ALL a bunch of rapists and helpless little girls, and we might as well lock all of ourselves up and throw away the key! Are we all going crazy or what? Is it something in the water making us so foolish? This boy has been rail roaded no two ways about it! yes.gif wacko.gif
Drego
QUOTE(swtp @ Jul 24 2007, 11:21 PM) *
I told my mom about this, she laughed and said with this kind of thinking both her and my dad should be in jail as well as just about every person who was ever a teenager in every city,town and country in the world! If anyone thinks this is right they must also believe we are ALL a bunch of rapists and helpless little girls, and we might as well lock all of ourselves up and throw away the key! Are we all going crazy or what? Is it something in the water making us so foolish? This boy has been rail roaded no two ways about it! yes.gif wacko.gif

Haha, laugh.gif
glorybebe
QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 24 2007, 09:10 PM) *
Haha, laugh.gif


When I was in highschool, the older guys were always after the younger girls, and the younger girls knew how to attract attention from the older guys. If the 15 year old had been 13, yeah, that is quite an age and maturity difference. If anything, I think the problem should be him having sex with a girl who was obviously way too far gone to acknowledge what was happening to her.
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 25 2007, 03:15 AM) *
I have no pity or sympathy for girls like that. I'm not saying he was completely innocent... but ten years is absolutely inexcusable.


Is that why you have sympathy for the perpetrator? Type of thing you'd do?
Bill Hill

QUOTE(swtp @ Jul 25 2007, 04:21 AM) *
I told my mom about this, she laughed and said with this kind of thinking both her and my dad should be in jail as well as just about every person who was ever a teenager in every city,town and country in the world! If anyone thinks this is right they must also believe we are ALL a bunch of rapists and helpless little girls, and we might as well lock all of ourselves up and throw away the key! Are we all going crazy or what? Is it something in the water making us so foolish? This boy has been rail roaded no two ways about it! yes.gif wacko.gif


Did you tell your mum all the details?
Raptor
QUOTE(Drego)
QUOTE(billyhill)
The conviction was based on an amateur video tape showing Wilson engaging in sex with a 17-year-old girl during a private party, and later receiving oral sex from a 15-year-old girl.[3][4] The video shows the 17-year-old girl on the bathroom floor, then later having sex with Wilson. She appeared sleepy or intoxicated during the sex act but did not ask Wilson to stop. [5] Waking up naked and in a stupor the next morning, she claimed to have been raped.[4] Investigating the alleged rape, police later found condoms and evidence of drinking, as well as the video camera, in the motel room used for the party.



Ah, the power of Bold...


How about the part which says "sleepy or intoxicated"?

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"He may have been acquitted of raping the 17-year-old girl because she didn't tell him to stop..."

I'm sorry, but... what do you mean here?


Surely you know that when you're "intoxicated" you lack a proper sense of judgement? The fact is she was drunk, and the guy knew it. He was taking advantage of her.
Bill Hill

QUOTE(glorybebe @ Jul 25 2007, 05:17 AM) *
When I was in highschool, the older guys were always after the younger girls, and the younger girls knew how to attract attention from the older guys.


It's funny because.. when I was at school if you went out with younger girls; you were considered a freak. And quite rightly so..
Drego
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 25 2007, 07:17 AM) *
Is that why you have sympathy for the perpetrator? Type of thing you'd do?

I never said I had sympathy for him. (In fact I do, but that is only because of his outrageous punishment.)

Is that really what you think? That I'm the type of person who would do something like this? Why? I want to know.
Drego
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jul 25 2007, 09:29 AM) *
Surely you know that when you're "intoxicated" you lack a proper sense of judgement? The fact is she was drunk, and the guy knew it. He was taking advantage of her.

She was willing to get drunk, so clearly, she never had proper judgement in the first place.
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 25 2007, 07:02 PM) *
I never said I had sympathy for him. (In fact I do, but that is only because of his outrageous punishment.)
Is that really what you think? That I'm the type of person who would do something like this? Why? I want to know.


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QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 25 2007, 07:06 PM) *
She was willing to get drunk, so clearly, she never had proper judgement in the first place.


Classic- blame the victim.
Fluffybunny
QUOTE(IamsSon @ Jul 4 2007, 07:48 AM) *
Legally, anyone below the age of 18 is not an adult and is, therefore, unable to give consent to certain things, among them engaging in sexual relations. So, the argument that it was consensual is not a good legal argument.

Well, in my state it is 16, and there are even loopholes in that based on how old the other party is; if they are within 2 years it isn't an issue.

You know, my grandmother was married at 14, and had kids at 16 and lived a rather good life. There are some 16 year olds that are ready for a sexual life, and some aren't; they are too young to be safe- it just depends on the kids. prison sentences for such a thing is a waste of tax payer dollars and the ruining of what may otherwise be a productive life. Unfortunately that is typical in todays justice system that rarely has anything to do with justice.
Raptor
QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 25 2007, 07:06 PM) *
She was willing to get drunk, so clearly, she never had proper judgement in the first place.


So what you're saying is that any women who ever decide to have a drink, deserve what ever they have coming? That's great.

It would be nice if women were allowed to have a good time among supposed friends without fear of being raped.
Drego
I never thought I would be pushed to this point, but I now feel compelled to make this clear: I do not condone rape at all and I am not a rapist. I hope that clears up any misconceptions. However, I also don't condone toutrageous prison sentances and I'm not blaming the victim. I agree that he does deserve punishment, but I think any court official with some sense would think twice before giving such a harsh sentance. Also... I'm a bit concerned that Billy jumped to such bizzare conclusions... blink.gif

Now that we're done with personal attacks,

QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jul 25 2007, 06:42 PM) *
So what you're saying is that any women who ever decide to have a drink, deserve what ever they have coming? That's great.

It would be nice if women were allowed to have a good time among supposed friends without fear of being raped.


If all we're doing is taking other people's words to extremes, then perhaps I misunderstood the point of this thread. Otherwise, I'm confident that I wont have to respond to this... but just in case, no. That isn't what I met (and I think I'm to blame for this misunderstanding). I'll admit, I was making assumptions. I had assumed - given the situation - that this girl was one of those girls concerned only with popularity and tries using her mistakes to avoid responsibiliy (that also explained why I came across as 'blaming the victim'.) Noone is really qualified to make assumptions unless they know that person personally.
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 26 2007, 12:40 AM) *
I never thought I would be pushed to this point, but I now feel compelled to make this clear: I do not condone rape at all and I am not a rapist. I hope that clears up any misconceptions. However, I also don't condone toutrageous prison sentances and I'm not blaming the victim. I agree that he does deserve punishment, but I think any court official with some sense would think twice before giving such a harsh sentance. Also... I'm a bit concerned that Billy jumped to such bizzare conclusions... blink.gif


mmmh a little sensitive aren't we? At least you admit it was probably rape.
I wish you'd stop making out this incident was just two consenting 'innocent teens' experimenting; which btw has thrown the whole thread.
There were a whole gang of them, including what appears to be an older man, a passed out 17yr girl, the 15yr girl and a video camera.
The rest of the gang took a plea bargain..they are serving 5yrs each-and will be on the sex offender's register for the rest of their lives.
Wilson refused to do so...so when he was found guilty he got 10yrs.
The jury btw were well 'thick'...selected by the defense (who tried to unsuccessfully to play the race card) and yet the jury still found him guilty..they had no choice based on the evidence. Case Closed.
Isis2200
QUOTE(Raptor X7 @ Jul 25 2007, 05:42 PM) *
So what you're saying is that any women who ever decide to have a drink, deserve what ever they have coming? That's great.

It would be nice if women were allowed to have a good time among supposed friends without fear of being raped.


Thank you, Mark; that's very mature of you to say that. It's just like if a man asks a woman out to breakfast after a very late date, or invites her up for a nightcap, that doesn't mean she wants to have sex or deserves to be taken advantage of. Things like this really upset me. mellow.gif

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Drego
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 25 2007, 11:39 PM) *
mmmh a little sensitive aren't we? At least you admit it was probably rape.
I wish you'd stop making out this incident was just two consenting 'innocent teens' experimenting; which btw has throw the whole thread.
There were a whole gang of them, including what appears to be an older man, a passed out 17yr girl, the 15yr girl and a video camera.
The rest of the gang took a plea bargain..they are serving 5yrs each-and will be on the sex offender's register for the rest of their lives.
Wilson refused to do so...so when he was found guilty he got 10yrs.
The jury btw were well 'thick'...selected by the defense (who tried to unsuccessfully play the race card) and yet the jury still found him guilty..they had no choice based on the evidence. Case Closed.

Yeah... I guess I did get sensitive. Not everyday that I practically get called a child molester though laugh.gif

I think, early on, I may have deprived myself of some of the facts of this story - a fatal mistake, I know. That's why I got the idea that the two were innocent. Basically, all that concerns me is the exceeding prison sentance.
Bill Hill


QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 26 2007, 05:01 AM) *
Yeah... I guess I did get sensitive. Not everyday that I practically get called a child molester though laugh.gif


No problem.. thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 26 2007, 05:01 AM) *
I think, early on, I may have deprived myself of some of the facts of this story - a fatal mistake, I know. That's why I got the idea that the two were innocent. Basically, all that concerns me is the exceeding prison sentance.


yeah.. it's a tough sentence but that's what happens if you don't plead guilty, don't take the plea bargain and then are found guilty by a jury.
I haven't much sympathy for him, he played the odds and lost. I saw a clip of the video on ABC news- and it looked totally sinister.
Anyway, the only people who are trying to make him a martyr is his mom (no surprises) and his fat smug 'human rights lawyer' who wants to make a name for herself-

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