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bigdog112
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 26 2007, 05:03 AM) *
No problem.. thumbsup.gif
yeah.. it's a tough sentence but that's what happens if you don't plead guilty, don't take the plea bargain and then are found guilty by a jury.
I haven't much sympathy for him, he played the odds and lost. I saw a clip of the video on ABC news- and it looked totally sinister.
Anyway, the only people who are trying to make him a martyr is his mom (no surprises) and his fat smug 'human rights lawyer' who wants to make a name for herself-

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fat? are you 5... grow up I picture you screaming fatty fatty fat fat at some girl.

ANY WAYS I find my self with these 2 thoughts if he did have sex with this girl wile she was drunk he should be charged with rap not stagitory rape. The boy is 17!!! he is a lil kid still he isn't even out of high school yet he doesnt know what he is doing nether did she.

If he raped her wile she was drunk by all means put him in jail.

give me a brake.
Isis2200
QUOTE(bigdog112 @ Jul 26 2007, 01:18 AM) *
ANY WAYS I find my self with these 2 thoughts if he did have sex with this girl wile she was drunk he should be charged with rap not stagitory rape. The boy is 17!!! he is a lil kid still he isn't even out of high school yet he doesnt know what he is doing nether did she.

If he raped her wile she was drunk by all means put him in jail.



Yeah, in this case I would've been more outraged if the guy was 17 and the girl was 9 or 10. But I agree; rape is rape, and if he did rape her, then he belongs in jail.

I heard of another case where the guy was 19 and the girl was 17. The guy went to jail, and I heard him on the Montel Williams show stating that it's now on his record that he's a sexual predator. He says this has really messed up his life. This means he can't be around children. Cases like this one in my opinion make me sick; they're totally ridiculous. Whatever happened to teen dating? I don't think it was ever this bad.

If I'm 17 and I tell my parents the guy I love is 19, that means he can go to jail?????? Absolutely ridiculous. disgust.gif

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Bill Hill

QUOTE(bigdog112 @ Jul 26 2007, 07:18 AM) *
fat? are you 5... grow up I picture you screaming fatty fatty fat fat at some girl.


Sorry.. did I say fat? I meant stupid naive dumbass, liberal, vain egomaniac 'look at me' ...'saviour of black people'... 'I'm not racist! here's my badge' b****.
Bill Hill

And I don't know why the mother is looking so smug in the photo either... where's the father?
Lack of 'positive male role model' probably also had a bearing on this case..
Am I right?
You're not wrong...
Drego
QUOTE(bigdog112 @ Jul 26 2007, 02:18 AM) *
fat? are you 5... grow up I picture you screaming fatty fatty fat fat at some girl.

ANY WAYS I find my self with these 2 thoughts if he did have sex with this girl wile she was drunk he should be charged with rap not stagitory rape. The boy is 17!!! he is a lil kid still he isn't even out of high school yet he doesnt know what he is doing nether did she.

If he raped her wile she was drunk by all means put him in jail.

give me a brake.

Exactly. He was one year above the a.o.c., she was one year below.... so technically, that qualifies as statutory. They can find loopholes like this, and use it to ruin lives. And that's exactly what was going on here. He may deserve punishment, but this is rediculous.
Bill Hill

Technicalities? Yeah.. technically Wilson didn’t rape the 17yr girl at the time of the video..why? because his mates (homies) were raping her. Technically he had an alibi, what was it? Oh yeah that’s right; he was getting sucked off by the 15yr old.
10yrs? this dirty freak had a lucky break...
Drego
That's right... they should have brought back the noose for this freak... and had his entrails paraded through the city!

Or did you have anything else in mind?

My point is that if they were the same age, his sentance would have been much different. A very minor age difference meaning the difference between rape and statutory rape is not a technicallity, but it is ridiculous.
brothers
It all boils down to what color skin you have and what state in the USA you live in. Was the girl white??? If so then you know why. Sad. Very sad. And it still exists here especially in the South.
Drego
QUOTE(brothers @ Jul 26 2007, 08:29 PM) *
It all boils down to what color skin you have and what state in the USA you live in. Was the girl white??? If so then you know why. Sad. Very sad. And it still exists here especially in the South.

No, actually, all members were black. No racism here.
bigdog112

QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 26 2007, 01:16 PM) *
And I don't know why the mother is looking so smug in the photo either... where's the father?
Lack of 'positive male role model' probably also had a bearing on this case..
Am I right?
You're not wrong...


right ill just quot you're childish lil antics and assume you didn't have a father aether.

QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 26 2007, 12:47 PM) *
Sorry.. did I say fat? I meant stupid naive dumbass, liberal, vain egomaniac 'look at me' ...'saviour of black people'... 'I'm not racist! here's my badge' b****.


ill just ignore you're posts from now on Alright? OK

QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 26 2007, 10:29 PM) *
Technicalities? Yeah.. technically Wilson didn’t rape the 17yr girl at the time of the video..why? because his mates (homies) were raping her. Technically he had an alibi, what was it? Oh yeah that’s right; he was getting sucked off by the 15yr old.
10yrs? this dirty freak had a lucky break...


Ill try to explane why he wasn't charged with rape and the others where but I am sure you wont believe it.



I am sure they had to drop the rape case because either the 17yr girl said she was not raped or the fact the video shows her giving oral sex to the kid before the 15yr did, which they perceive as her giving permission before penetration.

It is a loop hole and a way to just screw the kid over, maybe the prosecutor had a quota to uphold or maybe they just don’t like African Americans. Doesn’t need a little white girl to lock up the black man just use a loop hole and an all white jury

What? No racism in Georgia …….R-I-G-H-T
Drego
Heh, are you sure you aren't talking about To Kill A Mockingbird instead, bigdog? laugh.gif
Bill Hill

QUOTE(bigdog112 @ Jul 27 2007, 04:47 AM) *
right ill just quot you're childish lil antics and assume you didn't have a father aether.
ill just ignore you're posts from now on Alright? OK
Ill try to explane why he wasn't charged with rape and the others where but I am sure you wont believe it.
I am sure they had to drop the rape case because either the 17yr girl said she was not raped or the fact the video shows her giving oral sex to the kid before the 15yr did, which they perceive as her giving permission before penetration.
It is a loop hole and a way to just screw the kid over, maybe the prosecutor had a quota to uphold or maybe they just don’t like African Americans. Doesn’t need a little white girl to lock up the black man just use a loop hole and an all white jury
What? No racism in Georgia …….R-I-G-H-T


Please..er what are you trying to say? I really haven't got a clue...
btw the Jury was mostly black women...hand picked by the defense (they were like something straight out the jerry springer show)
Look..if you're not going to even look at the details of the case and just shout 'blind racism' like a nutcase what's the point even commenting?
Oh no ohmy.gif the perpetrator is black he must be innocent by default... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 27 2007, 05:19 AM) *
Heh, are you sure you aren't talking about To Kill A Mockingbird instead, bigdog? laugh.gif


laugh.gif smirks...
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 27 2007, 01:12 AM) *
That's right... they should have brought back the noose for this freak... and had his entrails paraded through the city!
Or did you have anything else in mind?


You don't need to go that far. How uncivilized.
I'd give him... seven.....No wait...make that ten years.
oops.. that's what happened...
Bill Hill

QUOTE(brothers @ Jul 27 2007, 01:29 AM) *
It all boils down to what color skin you have and what state in the USA you live in. Was the girl white??? If so then you know why. Sad. Very sad. And it still exists here especially in the South.


yep.. they were all black so no need to get angry or pretend to be angry.
Justice was done; we got the little freak...
btw did you see him? he thought he was snoop doggy dog or something.. walking like a gangsta wannabe.
He got his..the full force of law!
aztek
sh** happens when you party naked
through the fire
no crime was committed
this is absoluelty amazing but at the same time im not surprised
trial by media(and racism i suppose)
people had sex and performed sex acts no one was raped

by todays standards any man who thinks about sex is a "rapist" or a "paedophile"
and idiots actually buy into this hysteria
it shows me my contempt fot people is more than justified
Bill Hill

QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 28 2007, 09:44 PM) *
by todays standards any man who thinks about sex is a "rapist" or a "paedophile"
and idiots actually buy into this hysteria
it shows me my contempt fot people is more than justified


Sure if you think about sex with a 15yr old then yeah.. you are a pedophile.

through the fire
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 28 2007, 09:55 PM) *
Sure if you think about sex with a 15yr old then yeah.. you are a pedophile.

are you ****ing retarded?
a 16 year old girl has sex with a 15 year old boy and she is a paedophile?
15 years olds are not capable of making the judgement of what is right and wrong?
should we not prosecute 15 year old criminals?

please answer these questions lmao
Bill Hill

QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 28 2007, 10:06 PM) *
are you ****ing retarded?
a 16 year old girl has sex with a 15 year old boy and she is a paedophile?
15 years olds are not capable of making the judgement of what is right and wrong?
should we not prosecute 15 year old criminals?
please answer these questions lmao


I suggest you look into the details of the case before making moronic comments...
That's right, go back to page one.. rolleyes.gif
through the fire
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 28 2007, 10:21 PM) *
I suggest you look into the details of the case before making moronic comments...
That's right, go back to page one.. rolleyes.gif

way to avoid the questions fool
like i said no crime committed
Bill Hill

QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 28 2007, 10:33 PM) *
way to avoid the questions fool
like i said no crime committed


yeh yeah yeh fool... sh** wot bout the trial and everything huh?
why der trial if no crime committed? don't make no sense..

through the fire
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 28 2007, 11:18 PM) *
yeh yeah yeh fool... sh** wot bout the trial and everything huh?
why der trial if no crime committed? don't make no sense..

still you avoid the questions
there was a trial because presumably a black male had a sexual interaction with white females

please answer my original question in a mature way and then we can have a discussion on the matter until then ill simply treat you as the clearly intellectualy challenged,brainwashed moron that you seem to be
thanks
Bill Hill

QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 29 2007, 12:41 AM) *
still you avoid the questions
there was a trial because presumably a black male had a sexual interaction with white females


yes that's right.. he was a 17yr black male and she was a 15yr white girl who was almost 16 yrs..old.

Bill Hill

Yep.. I'm really glad this 'sick head' rapist WILSON was sent down.
10yrs? he's damn lucky..
my only hope is, the other prisoners give him real 'jail justice' to make up for the light sentence.. yes.gif
Drego
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 28 2007, 09:21 PM) *
yes that's right.. he was a 17yr black male and she was a 15yr white girl who was almost 16 yrs..old.

The fifteen year old was black.
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 30 2007, 12:47 AM) *
The fifteen year old was black.


Yeah I know... just pointing out to through the fire that he/she hadn't looked into the details of the case..

QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 29 2007, 12:41 AM) *
still you avoid the questions
there was a trial because presumably a black male had a sexual interaction with white females


er...no

QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 29 2007, 12:41 AM) *
please answer my original question in a mature way and then we can have a discussion on the matter until then ill simply treat you as the clearly intellectualy challenged,brainwashed moron that you seem to be
thanks


what?
Maybe you should look into the details of the case..before we can even discuss anything...or answer your stupid- assumption based non-relevant questions.
Oh and it's spelt 'intellectually' btw.
Brainwashed..indeed. rolleyes.gif
Drego
Wait... Why did that third Quote have my Username in it? blink.gif
Primeval
Lets just put all teenage guys in jail to prevent this from ever happening again! rolleyes.gif
Drego
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 30 2007, 12:41 AM) *
Lets just put all teenage guys in jail to prevent this from ever happening again! rolleyes.gif

Or castrate them rolleyes.gif
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 30 2007, 05:18 AM) *
Wait... Why did that third Quote have my Username in it? blink.gif


sorry about that Drego.. corrected. thumbsup.gif
Bill Hill

QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 30 2007, 05:41 AM) *
Lets just put all teenage guys in jail to prevent this from ever happening again! rolleyes.gif


Nah.. let's just not bother arresting rapists... especially young black one..

QUOTE(Drego @ Jul 30 2007, 06:47 AM) *
Or castrate them rolleyes.gif


nah let's just give them free women..paid by the state.. more drunken, the better.

Oh the joys of the Strawman Fallacy... let's go..overground
Buck Fast Tonic Wine
Ugh man ten year? LOL i hope for that guys sake she was really hot!! lol

Dont blame him to be honest i woulda done it too.
through the fire
and still billy hill has not answered the original questions lol
i did look at the details and i didnt just make assumptions
answer the questions then we'll talk you silly sheep
The Three Ventriloquists
Did he get on a pedaphile list thing because if he did that would be pretty messed up considering that she is only 2 years younger than him. Also I doubt that this case would have gone anywhere if the woman where the older ones.
Malruhn
QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 28 2007, 06:06 PM) *
are you ****ing r******ed?
a 16 year old girl has sex with a 15 year old boy and she is a paedophile?
15 years olds are not capable of making the judgement of what is right and wrong?
should we not prosecute 15 year old criminals?

please answer these questions lmao

If I can take a stab at answering the questions...

No, I don't think the poster is "r******ed".

No, by the law, a 16 year old that has sex with a 15 year old is not a pedophile. However, by the law, a SEVENTEEN year old that has sex with a 15 year old IS a pedophile. That is the law in that state. This is why the guy was charged. The law is very clear that AFTER the younger of the two is SIXteen, there can be a two year gap (16 and 18 year old, or 17 and 19 year old), but a child of 15 is not fair game for sex by someone that is two years older than them.

In the state in question, no a 15 year old is NOT capable of making that decision. Whether I agree with this or not, that is the LAW, and that is what is in question here. Other states have other laws for ages of consent... some are 18, some are 14 years old to make that decision. In this state, that age is sixteen.

The prosecution of 15 year old criminals is up to the laws of the jurisdiction in question. If they commit a crime that is outlined in a law, then they are charged and prosecuted. If not - they walk. In many cases, it is due to wording. I read the description of horse theft as written in Louisiana in the 1800's. It clearly said that if a man steals a horse, he can be charged, and sentenced to death. The way it was written, if you are a woman, you can steal as many horses as you like and can get away with it - as you aren't a "man." This is why it was changed... because a woman stole a bunch of horses and got away with it. If the law says that an 18+ year old person can't have sex with a 16 year old - then a 17 year old CAN... because they aren't 18 or over yet.
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On this one, as much as I dislike his debating tactics, I have to support BillyHill. You are arguing something that is superficial and not covered in the facts of the case.
Z£TÄ
that's just bloddy unreasonable hmm.gif
Malruhn
What is unreasonable, the legal situation or my response to the questions?
Bill Hill

QUOTE(through the fire @ Aug 4 2007, 11:33 PM) *
i did look at the details and i didnt just make assumptions
answer the questions then we'll talk you silly sheep


Did you? not judging by the quote below you didn't-

QUOTE(through the fire @ Jul 29 2007, 12:41 AM) *
there was a trial because presumably a black male had a sexual interaction with white females

tee hee...off course you looked at the details.. mellow.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(through the fire @ Aug 4 2007, 11:33 PM) *
answer the questions then we'll talk you silly sheep


It's not my job to answer your silly questions; you've got the facts now.. so you can answer you own moronic questions.
Whatever they were..I couldn't be bothered to find them... sleepy.gif
In my experience people who accuse others of being sheep are usually the biggest sheeps.
I mean, look at you..you didn't have the facts and yet tried to make the case out to be racist...so you could react for some reason.
Plain.. embarrassing..



princessarra
I find the boyfreinds sentence outragous in the extreame..... an offical caution would have been good enough.

One thing i do want to know though is why a 15 year old is even engaging in sex ??? isnt their other things you could do with your boyfreind besides having sex ??? go to the pictures, share a meal ect
Drego
QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 30 2007, 08:52 AM) *
Oh the joys of the Strawman Fallacy... let's go..overground

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A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.

QUOTE(billyhill @ Jul 25 2007, 07:17 AM) *
Is that why you have sympathy for the perpetrator? Type of thing you'd do?
Z£TÄ
QUOTE(Malruhn @ Aug 5 2007, 08:32 PM) *
What is unreasonable, the legal situation or my response to the questions?


the ruling,people are gonna do whatever they want,so if it's consenual why give him any jail time?
iCe_princEss
wow...thats ridiculous..and hes not even 18 yet huh.gif and 10 years is just waayy to much hmm.gif
bigdog112
QUOTE(Malruhn @ Aug 5 2007, 06:27 PM) *
If I can take a stab at answering the questions...

No, I don't think the poster is "r******ed".

No, by the law, a 16 year old that has sex with a 15 year old is not a pedophile. However, by the law, a SEVENTEEN year old that has sex with a 15 year old IS a pedophile. That is the law in that state. This is why the guy was charged. The law is very clear that AFTER the younger of the two is SIXteen, there can be a two year gap (16 and 18 year old, or 17 and 19 year old), but a child of 15 is not fair game for sex by someone that is two years older than them.

In the state in question, no a 15 year old is NOT capable of making that decision. Whether I agree with this or not, that is the LAW, and that is what is in question here. Other states have other laws for ages of consent... some are 18, some are 14 years old to make that decision. In this state, that age is sixteen.

The prosecution of 15 year old criminals is up to the laws of the jurisdiction in question. If they commit a crime that is outlined in a law, then they are charged and prosecuted. If not - they walk. In many cases, it is due to wording. I read the description of horse theft as written in Louisiana in the 1800's. It clearly said that if a man steals a horse, he can be charged, and sentenced to death. The way it was written, if you are a woman, you can steal as many horses as you like and can get away with it - as you aren't a "man." This is why it was changed... because a woman stole a bunch of horses and got away with it. If the law says that an 18+ year old person can't have sex with a 16 year old - then a 17 year old CAN... because they aren't 18 or over yet.
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On this one, as much as I dislike his debating tactics, I have to support BillyHill. You are arguing something that is superficial and not covered in the facts of the case.



By you're own logic isn't the 17 year old not old enough to give consent him self. In ALL states a person younger then 18 cannot join in a binding contract hence he is not capable of making a decision like whether or not to have sex.
Bill Hill

No fallacy Dregos... I was asking a question... hence the 'question mark'

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Can people read these days?
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That's just sick people like that should rent a ^%$^% instead hurting some one disgust.gif
Drego
QUOTE(billyhill @ Aug 12 2007, 07:05 PM) *
No fallacy Dregos... I was asking a question... hence the 'question mark'

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Can people read these days?

Nope.
Conspiracy
Wow that is extremly Stupid, meanwhile real rapists and pedophiles get less prison sentences and get let out of jail with a slap on the wrist saying "now you dont go do that again you here" all the time -.-
OldTimeRadio
QUOTE (The Silver Thong @ Jul 4 2007, 02:57 PM) *
I don't know of to many people that don't have sex befor turning 18.


And the LAW says that somebody's very likely to go to prison here, if the CRIME is reported.

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I think the girls parents are well conected and pissed that there daughter screwed some guy they didn't approve of.


I suspect you're absolutely correct. But the LAW is TOTALLY on the PARENTS' side.
Drego
Wow... just out of curiosity, OldTime, what page was this thread on?
Bill Hill

No, begone ye... necromancer... I caste you and your 'unnatural' ways.., back to hell.

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