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RedBear
Does anyone have any information about the pyramid in Alsaka ? Does anyone know if any pyramids were found in the U.S. ?
jaylemurph
Yes, I certainly do!

There's a lovely picture of it in this thread, though I understand the OP there doesn't think it's a constructed pyramid at all, the troglodyte. He probably watches Doctor Who, too.


http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...p;#entry1718907

--Jaylemurph

louie
Yeah, google monks mound, its in north America. pretty cool site. also google americas stonehenge, you will find a nice suprise.
*Phoenix*
QUOTE(louie @ Jul 5 2007, 09:59 AM) *
Yeah, google monks mound, its in north America. pretty cool site. also google americas stonehenge, you will find a nice suprise.


What surprise are you talking about? the dates? the different groups credited with the site? Are you seeing something I'm not?

I was just there on Sunday (stonehenge/Mystery Hill). It's pretty crazy, it just looks like a bunch of stone walls and a couple in-ground chambers. Outside of the main area, there are acres and acres of wierdly built stone walls. The only way you can tell on sight that it's not colonial-era farm fields is that the stone walls are not straight. They curve. My brother who's spent some time working at archeology sites in the Shetland islands says it looks as thought it was a settled community with the outlying fields being for farming or animals with some of the closer enclosures likely being residential areas. You could imagine the stone chambers and tunnels to be the basement of a building. With the altar stone being in a small but important room.


The information provided at the actual site is frustrating at best (though they sell copies of some out-of-print books on Atlantis..). It encorporates a bunch of different theories, even some proven totally incorrect but they continue with them anyway and do not offer any sort of explanation for those theories that have been proven wrong. Everything from the Phoenician-Iberian Celtic settlement (which, if you look at the all the "OopArts" that suggest old world settlement, mining and exportation pre-Columbus makes the most sense as it would account for all the Roman, Hebrew, Phoenician, Celtic, and even some of the Egyptian artifacts that have been found) to the idea that this poor farmer created the whole thing.

****just a note for the people who insist that Mystery Hill and Stonehenge are a neatly constructed fraud: live the life of an 18th or 19th century New England farmer and then tell me when the man would have had time to read the books that would teach him Iberian Punic, Ogham and who knows what else to teach himself how to actually construct 12-15 acres of astromically aligned walls and chambers suggesting religious practices that he never would have been exposed to.... all in secret. This is a prevailing frustration with all of the lithic chambers in New England. The 400+ astronimically aligned chambers that dot New England have been accepted by conventional science as old root cellars!!!!! Okay, You're a poor, struggling farmer living in the unforgiving New England hills and a good Christian to boot, is the most important thing in your life that your root cellar be perfectly aligned with the sunrise on the winter solstice or sunrise on the summer solstice or the equinoxes.... well... you tell me!?!

Sorry, I get a little cranky. I grew up with these things in my back yard and it's very frustrating to see every day the evidence of a society or culture that the supposed "experts" in the subect refuse to acknowledge as legitimate. I mean, I've run my hand down the enormous cover stones that make up the ceilings of these chambers and stones that size take some time and manpower to move. And just the uniformity of the chambers and their distribution in New England make it a pretty fascinating mystery (lots of man power and LOTS of construction time to find the perfect alignment and build 400 of the damn things). Also, if people are interested, check out Gungywamp in CT. It's another site like Stonehenge/Mystery Hill. This one they were insisting was made by the indians until they found a word strikingly similar to Gungywamp in the Celtic language (I cant' find the information online now) that insinuates that it was a place of sacred worship or is at least named for a place that was. I hope to get there in early August to check this out.

New England is interesting because to the North (into Canada) we have evidence of the Vikings colonies and nestled among the mountians of New England are these chambers. Those who are forced to admit that maybe the colonist utilized these chambers (and if so, there's no telling what they removed from them when they discovered them) but didn't build them, have tried to blame them on the Culdee Monks, the Vikings, and the local AmerIndian tribes all of these theories are disproven with the Carbon Dating done at Mystery Hill which placed the site's construction between 1700 and 3500BC. Now, unfortunately, the other thing this disproves is the idea that Carthaginians and other Phoenician people in a partnership with the Iberian Celts sent ships and people to this continent to avoid the Roman expansion. (this really really predates rome). Actually, the only thing I can think of that falls around those timelines and left surprisingly similar ruins is (drum roll please...) the Minoan Civilization. Do some research into the Minoan Peak Sanctuaries.

And actually, IF the Carbon dates are correct (I understand many different factors can cause these to give highly inaccurate information) Mystery Hill PREDATES the Minoan Peak Sanctuaries.....

Take a look at the Mystery Hill website pictures and compare them to the pictures of the Early Minoan site at http://www.uk.digiserve.com/mentor/minoan/juktas.htm

Sorry to go so off topic, this just happens to be a pet issue of mine. I don't know enough about the Minoan civilization yet to say if there is more than just superficial similarities. But some of the interesting things about the New England lithic sites is that they are usually found on hill tops, or near hill tops and always found near a water source. In fact, I only found these similarities when I realized that if the carbon dates are correct, then they couldn't have been Phoenician/Iberian Celtic Punic war refugees and when about looking for civilizations that existed within that time frame. There are definite similarities in the shape of the older Minoan walls and some of the older stoneworks.
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