HowdyDoo
Jul 6 2007, 08:12 PM
Sorry--didn't mean to derail this topic, I couldn't help myself.
Seriously--does anyone have a clue as to why they may be doing that to the livestock? Or--is it probably just the government testing out highly advanced equipment?
QUOTE(the14u2cee @ Jul 6 2007, 08:11 PM)

I would watch it,and you have some very talented cow's at home, the jewelry looks sweet....

Thanks!
the14u2cee
Jul 6 2007, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jul 6 2007, 01:12 PM)

Sorry--didn't mean to derail this topic, I couldn't help myself.
Seriously--does anyone have a clue as to why they may be doing that to the livestock? Or--is it probably just the government testing out highly advanced equipment?
Thanks!
I can almost guarantee that its not our government, they have enough money and secret places to go and do those kinds of things without people noticing,I believe that most of it is caused by animals, hungry ones that just pick and choose.
HowdyDoo
Jul 6 2007, 08:22 PM
QUOTE(the14u2cee @ Jul 6 2007, 08:17 PM)

I can almost guarantee that its not our government, they have enough money and secret places to go and do those kinds of things without people noticing,I believe that most of it is caused by animals, hungry ones that just pick and choose.
I'd rather think that then the alternatives.
Some of the carcasses have been selectively decomposing, though. Some if it looks quite weird. I hope you're right.
the14u2cee
Jul 6 2007, 08:26 PM
Before you view this site i will warn you it has some graphic cow pictures that kinda unsettle your stomach, the one that baffles me the most is the one with a dead deer on top of some power lines?
http://www.santafeghostandhistorytours.com/cowm.html
Atheist God
Jul 6 2007, 08:28 PM
QUOTE(the14u2cee @ Jul 6 2007, 02:17 PM)

I can almost guarantee that its not our government, they have enough money and secret places to go and do those kinds of things without people noticing,I believe that most of it is caused by animals, hungry ones that just pick and choose.
I don't think you can guarentee anything in rgards to cattle mutilation.
Cattle farmers in Dulce, New Mexico witnessed helicopters dropping their cattle from high in the air. They also found a gas mask among other objects around their farm and house which was shown on the now cancelled Sci-Fi Investigates. Dulce is notorious for alien and UFO rumors, in my opinion perhaps in that area and maybe others as well the abduction of cattle is merely a distraction to throw people of their trail for whatever the reason may be.
HowdyDoo
Jul 6 2007, 08:29 PM
QUOTE(the14u2cee @ Jul 6 2007, 08:26 PM)

Before you view this site i will warn you it has some graphic cow pictures that kinda unsettle your stomach, the one that baffles me the most is the one with a dead deer on top of some power lines?
http://www.santafeghostandhistorytours.com/cowm.htmlI think that's a deer (sorry, you said it was a deer). Did I read somewhere that it was hit by a train or something? (I don't know--just heard it somewhere.)
You've got to admit, some of that looks ominous.
the14u2cee
Jul 6 2007, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jul 6 2007, 01:28 PM)

I don't think you can guarantee anything in regards to cattle mutilation.
Cattle farmers in Dulce, New Mexico witnessed helicopters dropping their cattle from high in the air. They also found a gas mask among other objects around their farm and house which was shown on the now canceled Sci-Fi Investigates. Dulce is notorious for alien and UFO rumors, in my opinion perhaps in that area and maybe others as well the abduction of cattle is merely a distraction to throw people of their trail for whatever the reason may be.
Well, i guess i should not say guarantee, how bout 99% sure....
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/cattle.html here is another site...
HowdyDoo
Jul 6 2007, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jul 6 2007, 08:28 PM)

I don't think you can guarentee anything in rgards to cattle mutilation.
Cattle farmers in Dulce, New Mexico witnessed helicopters dropping their cattle from high in the air. They also found a gas mask among other objects around their farm and house which was shown on the now cancelled Sci-Fi Investigates. Dulce is notorious for alien and UFO rumors, in my opinion perhaps in that area and maybe others as well the abduction of cattle is merely a distraction to throw people of their trail for whatever the reason may be.
This sounds plausible--maybe it is not military that is doing it, but private sectors needing the cattle for experimental research.
Atheist God
Jul 6 2007, 08:49 PM
QUOTE(the14u2cee @ Jul 6 2007, 02:32 PM)

Well, i guess i should not say guarantee, how bout 99% sure....
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/cattle.html here is another site...
I take this website with a grain of salt as the disclaimer clearly states:
QUOTE
Alien Astronomer (AA) is not to be held accountable for the factual accuracy of any article found within. Nor shall AA be held accountable for any inaccuracies of information found within the web sites to which we link. It is for you alone to determine through further research whether the information found within AA is authentic or deceptive in anyway.
At least the two farmers in Dulce were willing to show physical evidence on camera including audio bugs found in their home. It just does not make sense that advanced aliens need to keep abducting cattle when they could merely just clone themselves cattle etc. A lot of cattle mutilations and other animal mutilations could also likely be hoaxes as well.
the14u2cee
Jul 6 2007, 09:30 PM
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jul 6 2007, 01:49 PM)

I take this website with a grain of salt as the disclaimer clearly states:
At least the two farmers in Dulce were willing to show physical evidence on camera including audio bugs found in their home. It just does not make sense that advanced aliens need to keep abducting cattle when they could merely just clone themselves cattle etc. A lot of cattle mutilations and other animal mutilations could also likely be hoaxes as well.
I still have my doubts about the government dissecting are cow's, what motive would they have to do such things?
Bear's Quest
Jul 6 2007, 09:57 PM
What would they need of the cow's udder, mouth and tongue. Thers no other kind of animal that I know of this kind
mutilations.
boorite
Jul 7 2007, 02:10 AM
They want our magnesium, and they will stop at nothing to get it.
F-16 Falcon
Jul 7 2007, 03:02 AM
QUOTE(Bear's Quest @ Jul 6 2007, 03:51 PM)

Yes and no... what I mean is. Our 21st cent. technology is just that. We want to go to Mars and haven't achieved it yet. We want to know?
Aliens not only did this but are so advanced about a 1000 years or maybe a million years. That they need nothing from us cause thier technology is superior.
Just because they may be technologically advanced, more so than us by about 1,000,000 years... that doesn't mean that they may not consider our form of technology "fascinating", or consider us beings as "fascinating".
Bear's Quest
Jul 7 2007, 04:41 AM
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jul 7 2007, 03:02 AM)

Just because they may be technologically advanced, more so than us by about 1,000,000 years... that doesn't mean that they may not consider our form of technology "fascinating", or consider us beings as "fascinating".
Hmmm... consider us beings as "fascinating".
That reminded me of an old Anime "Robotech- Macross." The Zentradi were a race of giants, sent to Earth in search of a powerful military weapon, only to find a power that nearly destroyed them. That power was.................Kissing!(love)
Hey, it knocks my wife off her feet... Its was a kids show growing up!
Atheist God
Jul 7 2007, 05:27 AM
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jul 6 2007, 09:02 PM)

Just because they may be technologically advanced, more so than us by about 1,000,000 years... that doesn't mean that they may not consider our form of technology "fascinating", or consider us beings as "fascinating".
If a Highly advanced ET race completly different from us in ways unimaginable they may observe us as we would be just as exotic to them as they are to us biologically. There are however rules of nature that apply to all beings possessing the knowledge to leave their planet and build mass communication etc. Such an advanced and highly intellegent race of alien observing us would quickly learn that we are war like and primative in many aspects socially and technologically. In that regard humans may possess certain qualities not posessed by aliens uniques to us. An alien species may view us biologically and be puzzled by our DNA And perhaps even emotions that they may not possess etc.
Bear's Quest
Jul 7 2007, 06:05 PM
QUOTE(GanjaGuru @ Jul 7 2007, 05:27 AM)

If a Highly advanced ET race completly different from us in ways unimaginable they may observe us as we would be just as exotic to them as they are to us biologically. There are however rules of nature that apply to all beings possessing the knowledge to leave their planet and build mass communication etc. Such an advanced and highly intellegent race of alien observing us would quickly learn that we are war like and primative in many aspects socially and technologically. In that regard humans may possess certain qualities not posessed by aliens uniques to us. An alien species may view us biologically and be puzzled by our DNA And perhaps even emotions that they may not possess etc.
That may be a good enough reason to why they won't make themselves known. To them we might be viewed ants,
ants with some unique DNA. Maybe cause these ants have a soul- maybe not.
Whatever the reason, they are viewnig us from afar and don't want to get involved or refuseing to or we're just that inferior.
Z498
Jul 7 2007, 06:19 PM
They could be watching us to get the newest styles =).
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Or maybe...which no one has ever thought of and usually when never thought of is usually true, we could be some ancient humanoid race that they thought was extinct which ruled the galaxy or a large part of the universe and got their but kicks in a rebellionnd a few of us left here and now they are like WTF!! LET'S TAKE THEIR COWS LIKE LAST TIME TO SEE IF THEY GET MAD!
the indigo revolution
Jul 7 2007, 07:37 PM
Hey my friend has something to say about UFO's... here she is

ok i seen a ufo me and my dad was driving down the road and said look i did i saw a circle green thing it was glowing my dad speed up and it was gone i was so freaked out no! my head wasent playin tricks on me my dad saw it too
Bear's Quest
Jul 7 2007, 07:54 PM
QUOTE(the indigo revolution @ Jul 7 2007, 07:37 PM)

Hey my friend has something to say about UFO's... here she is

ok i seen a ufo me and my dad was driving down the road and said look i did i saw a circle green thing it was glowing my dad speed up and it was gone i was so freaked out no! my head wasent playin tricks on me my dad saw it too

Did you notice to see if any time was missing when it happened and where did this take place?
Black+Fox
Jul 7 2007, 08:02 PM
maybe its like that movie k-pax i dont know if anybody has seen it but its really good but to the point maybe their here just to study us see how we live what we are made of i.e abduction or stuff like that
khaotik
Jul 7 2007, 10:58 PM
Consider places on this planet that we cannot access. What might we find if we could explore the deepest parts of the ocean or the molten core of our planet? There may be elements that we haven't even discovered yet that could be of great value to alien life and to us as well if only we could access them.
To the best of my knowledge the deepest we have ever been in our own ocean was around 8 miles below the surface. When we go that deep, we cannot stay down there for very long, and we only have primitive sonar to locate nearby objects. There is no light down there and it is nearly impossible for cameras to see more than a few feet from the vehicle.
For all we know, there could be a extra terrestrial base on the ocean floor or even a city. It would be a miracle for us to ever find them given our current level of technology.
Bear's Quest
Jul 7 2007, 11:53 PM
QUOTE(khaotik @ Jul 7 2007, 10:58 PM)

For all we know, there could be a extra terrestrial base on the ocean floor or even a city. It would be a miracle for us to ever find them given our current level of technology.
Our planet might have what they need and then move on and our water might fuel thier ships. sort of a stop'n go planet. The universe so vast they may have to refuel. Like they don't want to stop and say "Hi, can we use your bathroom while were here and fill up?"
Bear's Quest
Jul 8 2007, 12:01 AM
QUOTE(boorite @ Jul 7 2007, 02:10 AM)

They want our magnesium, and they will stop at nothing to get it.
Was that a movie? The one where a guy comes off a shipment from africa and turns into some creature that bites off the heads of people and sucks out thier brains for 'magnesium.' It lived in a museum killing its visitors.
If not, I think we have plenty of magnesium all around earth, don't we?
bluelight
Jul 8 2007, 03:43 AM
mm... here's a thought.
maybe our planet is "protected" by some species from out there. keeping them worse kinds away at bay and in the same time they like to keep on research with our race just to make sure we are doing "ok" or not. Like how we make sure the animals, flora and faunas are ok or not.
but that theory doesn't seem to covers so why are they letting us having all these wars with each other. =/
and then there those abductees stories where they were made to mate with another human being during their abductions.

they like porns??? LOL
Conspiracy
Jul 8 2007, 03:51 AM
they want canadian bacon
Son of _Adam
Jul 8 2007, 07:42 AM
QUOTE(Bear's Quest @ Jul 5 2007, 06:53 PM)

I have wondered about this question for a while now. Think about us at the moment.
We are a speck of dust in a galaxy and where other stars and solar systems are a 100 times bigger. Would they be giants?
We have advanced in the last 100 years or so from horse drawn carriages to flying machines and setting a man on the moon.
If aliens are so advanced about a thousand years if not a millinea. What would be thier need of us? We sent out voyager for them to find us, was that a smart move on us?
Your DNA
Lilly
Jul 8 2007, 11:38 AM
Ah yes, our DNA.
Now, here is where things go south rather quickly for this hypothesis (IMO anyway). One only needs to snag a few humans, sequence their DNA, make note of the variations, and then the ETs could easily make whatever genetic engineering changes they so desired! They (the ETs) simply wouldn't have any need to keep kidnapping humans for decades! We're almost at the verge of having the ability to this kind of thing ourselves. It seems rather silly (in terms of the molecular biology involved) to think that aliens who are advanced to the point of interstellar travel would not have this ability. Frankly, this 'aliens want our DNA' hypothesis seems just a bit naive IMO.
wtwt5237
Jul 8 2007, 02:26 PM
What if the aliens we met are not from one planet. They came from different planets ,each sequenced a DNA copy and then returned. And not all of the kidnappings were related to sequencing DNA. They also did something else.
Quite strange idea I admit, but a possible answer to some extent.
Bear's Quest
Jul 8 2007, 07:29 PM
QUOTE(wtwt5237 @ Jul 8 2007, 02:26 PM)

What if the aliens we met are not from one planet. They came from different planets ,each sequenced a DNA copy and then returned. And not all of the kidnappings were related to sequencing DNA. They also did something else.
Quite strange idea I admit, but a possible answer to some extent.
Now we are opening a can of worms. "They also did something else." If I may go along with this and I'm not saying this is your idea or not. Do you mean they added thier own DNA in us or for them to use on thier planet or other planets... or like what?
nickoli
Jul 9 2007, 12:47 AM
Two things first "If you dont know where you've been you cant possibly know where your going". What I mean is that throughout history almost every, if not every time an advandced civilization came in contact with a lesser advandced civilization the lesser of the two ceaced to exist. Another thought that I've been pondering is just where are they coming from? So far we cant find evidence of them (concrete) in our solar system so they are far,far more advanced than we are "if" they are alien. To me this suggests time travel rather than space or interplanetary travel (takes far to long) and if they are capable of this then they should certainly be able to cloak themselves and not be seen at all. If these "UFOs" are alien then they only let us see them and I for one really dont want to meet them I dont believe it will be "cool" if history repeats itself as it has a tendancy to do.
Bear's Quest
Jul 9 2007, 02:55 PM
QUOTE(nickoli @ Jul 9 2007, 12:47 AM)

"If you dont know where you've been you cant possibly know where your going". What I mean is that throughout history almost every, if not every time an advandced civilization came in contact with a lesser advandced civilization the lesser of the two ceaced to exist.
Either you grow into higher advance civilization and co-exist or what, be destroyed them? Or De-evolutionize?
AlienwatcherUK
Jul 9 2007, 11:29 PM
It is not as simple as just wanting 'bits of DNA'. The issue is more complex. You don't just take people's DNA and then plop them back to Earth and fly off! lol.
There are many reasons why humans and non humans are cooperating with genetic engineering. Also why many are being used for those reasons.
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