It may be possible to glimpse before the supposed beginning of time into the universe prior to the Big Bang, researchers now say. Unfortunately, any such picture will always be fuzzy at best due to a kind of "cosmic forgetfulness." The Big Bang is often thought as the start of everything, including time, making any questions about what happened during it or beforehand nonsensical. Recently scientists have instead suggested the Big Bang might have just been the explosive beginning of the current era of the universe, hinting at a mysterious past.To see how far into history one might gaze, theoretical physicist Martin Bojowald at Pennsylvania State University ran calculations based on loop quantum gravity, one of a number of competing theories seeking to explain how the underlying structure of the universe works.Past research suggested the Big Bang was preceded by infinite energies and space-time warping where existing scientific theories break down, making it impossible to peer beforehand. The new findings suggest that although the levels of energy and space-time warping before the Big Bang were both incredibly high, they were finite.Scientists could spot clues in the present day of what the cosmos looked like previously. If evidence of the past persisted after the Big Bang, its influence could be spotted in astronomical observations and computational models, Bojowald explained.However, Bojowald also figures some knowledge of the past was irrevocably lost.

For instance, the sheer size of the present universe would suppress precise knowledge of how the universe changed in size before the Big Bang, he said."It came as a big surprise that some properties of the universe before the Big Bang may have only such a weak influence on current observations that they are practically undetermined," Bojowald said of findings detailed online July 1 in the journal Nature Physics.One implication of this "cosmic forgetfulness," as Bojowald calls it, is that history does not repeat itself-the fundamental properties of the current era of the universe are different from the last, Bojowald explained. "It's as if the universe forgot some of its properties and acquired new properties independent of what it had before," he told SPACE.com."The eternal recurrence of absolutely identical universes would seem to be prevented by the apparent existence of an intrinsic cosmic forgetfulness," he added.

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Well as a spiritual person,at the same time,as pupil of wisdom.The questions, presented by the big bang theory have to be looked at,with a little faith and knowledge.Faith to belive in an unltimate Will,namely GOD.And the knowledge of what the univers is basicly made out of.Well im not gonna go into details of what molecules and elements were in the beginning of time.but this is my theory:
The state of the univers was calm in its pre-time era.No planets moving no gases flaring.No stars,no comets streaming tru the univers....Nothing,but,Maybe the smallest of energy in its purest form.The univers was a sea of this energy.Or more like radiation,just a big ball of radiation.In the middle of such radiation new components for the basic elemets of life were made.How?Well maybe the mixture of radiation that egnited causing billions of diferent molecules to bounces around until the tempertuer lowered and then they bound them selfs to each other.Like dna strans.Holding in them the makings of earth,air,water and fire.Animals and man.but first,I belive such egnition would of been a quiet one.really made by radiation...taking all the molecules and bouncing them.Until they hooked up with one or another to make something.

The spiritual side of me wants to reconize the work God put in.Correctly paring all molecules together.Now if u a religions person.You can think of God as a man.With a body,and inside of him a quiet explotion happening.Now the organs instead of been solid they would be made of molecules of manny kinds.Such an explotion,or accelaration of the molecules produce the building block for earth and other elements.At first the gases for earth and rocks would of been in a kind of lava state....while cooling down it would releas heat and gases,that would mix in with other gases in the univers.Making atmosphere.The hot gas still bouncing molecules around and wen they too cooled down they attach again on to others and again making something els.
To get back to the man with the exploring univers inside of him....Now this egnition and the streght of its power send billions of molecules flying tru space,at the same time,their making new stuff as they make contact in their paths.Please imagen this man letting his body expand as he controls his own body forever.Always letting new things grow and old one dim down.
Well I'll leave it here.Cause I still havent found out wats the smallest oldest form of molecules....for that would be what Gods holy power is made of.And this theory of mine leave me with manny directions and questions to look for.Like if we follow the tragetory of as manny galaxys as we can as the univers expand.And we trace it backwards can we find the middle of the univers???And manny others

As far as I'm concerned it's still all theories. However, I still don't believe the dawn of the universe and time is an accident. Example, the periodical table. Look at each molecules' and elements' formulas. It's mathematically precise. Everything we know about science is based on nature's specific identification. To have a random event create such a system is farfetched. In turn, that's what makes scientist accepting the Big Bang theory such a cliché. To be, the evidence points to a being of intelligence who architected the Universe. Religions calls him God, Jehovah, Allah, etc. Although that is also but a theory, it would make much more sense than some random cataclist.

The periodic table couldn't be more simple. The first element has one proton and one electron. The second element has two protons and two electrons. The third element has three protons and three electrons, etc, etc. Yes, it's mathematically precise. So is putting down one pebble or two pebbles or three pebbles...

Stop using the word "random" for everything you don't understand. We don't know what happened in the first fraction of a second of the big bang and we certainly don't know what happened before the big bang, if such a concept is even possible. Was it "random"? We don't know.

Please tell me, if the universe is too complex to have come into existence without a creator, what created that infinitely more complex creator? And what created the creator of that creator?

Oh, and that gods created the universe is not a theory. It has zero evidence and it cannot be tested. That makes it a myth.
The notion in this story is also not a theory. It cannot be tested. It is at best a hypothesis.

"I do appologize my english is not my first idioma
The questions, presented by the big bang theory have to be looked at,with a little faith and knowledge."
Why? Why start out assuming that gods exist? That's the definition of a closed mind. You "know" a thing and then you set out to bend all of your observations until they agree with that thing.

"Well im not gonna go into details of what molecules and elements were in the beginning of time."
Those details are readily available on the web.

"Cause I still havent found out wats the smallest oldest form of molecules..."
Hydrogen. H2.

"Like if we follow the tragetory of as manny galaxys as we can as the univers expand.And we trace it backwards can we find the middle of the univers???"
It doesn't work that way. Since space expanded from the initial infinitesimal point (that contained all of the matter/energy of the entire universe), all space is expanding roughly equally. The universe is moving away from every point in the universe. All galaxies not gravitationally locked with our galaxy are moving roughly straight away from our galaxy. There is no center of the universe and there is no edge. That doesn't mean it's infinite though.

Where does it end then? If it does end then do you mean by gravity or by some area limitation? If it's stopped by gravity alone then yes the universe can and more than likely infinite. I do agree that the BB Theory is more feasable than the all mighty myth.