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MissMelsWell
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 11 2007, 04:34 PM) *
WOW. What a great story. What a gift to be given to you as well. Wow. Did you ever see the nurse again? Thanks for posting this again where I could see it!! Lovely. Take care, Jody original.gif


Oh of course! She's my mother's best friend an my daugher's Godmother. original.gif

After my experience with her, she and another friend opened a small clinic for touch healing, if I remember correctly, they didn't market it well and the whole clinic kinda died as soon as it was born more or less. They're both back to working ER and very near retirement. Interesting enough, both gals were also army trauma nurses in Vietnam in the 70's.
Irish
I will relate a story I personally know to be true.
I will call her Jane, I knew her for about 5 years prier. Jane was confined to a wheelchair since a young child born with cerebral Palsy. At the age of about twenty I used to transfer her from her wheelchair to my car to take her to college twice a week. One morning I went to pick her up at her door and she was standing by herself at the door with a big smirk on her face. I was quite taken aback and asked her what has happened? She explained that she had seen a faith healer a couple of days ago who preformed the laying on of hands and felt so good she did not want to sit for the rest of her life, laughing.
Although at that point she was extremely week duo in part to muscle atrophies she required an arm to hang on too. Leading her to the car is when I noticed something really strange, She was able to walk but the energy from her I felt was not muscular but like a form of electricity was moving her.
Her whole life slowly changed for her and the last I heard she had married and was working a regular 9 to 5 job with no relapse of her condition.
All The Best
Irish
She-ra
Wow Irish...that gave me goose bumps. What an incredible story and to witness it first-hand; how lucky!!

I know excatly what you're saying about it not being a muscular feeling but more of an "energy" feeling. I use the word energy only because that's the only way I feel I can describe it.

I've never studied Reiki but I now people who have. I started this thread for guidance since I've been told I have tons of energy by other reiki people.

Maybe this is my sign to take some classes? I would LOVE to help someone ease their pain if I could.

Take care hun, Jody original.gif
joc
QUOTE(Irish @ Jul 12 2007, 12:20 AM) *
I will relate a story I personally know to be true.
I will call her Jane, I knew her for about 5 years prier. Jane was confined to a wheelchair since a young child born with cerebral Palsy. At the age of about twenty I used to transfer her from her wheelchair to my car to take her to college twice a week. One morning I went to pick her up at her door and she was standing by herself at the door with a big smirk on her face. I was quite taken aback and asked her what has happened? She explained that she had seen a faith healer a couple of days ago who preformed the laying on of hands and felt so good she did not want to sit for the rest of her life, laughing.
Although at that point she was extremely week duo in part to muscle atrophies she required an arm to hang on too. Leading her to the car is when I noticed something really strange, She was able to walk but the energy from her I felt was not muscular but like a form of electricity was moving her.
Her whole life slowly changed for her and the last I heard she had married and was working a regular 9 to 5 job with no relapse of her condition.
All The Best
Irish

Again, it was HER belief and faith and not some 'mysterious' power of the healer.
Just as DarkAngels experience with feet pain and the 'one' person who could touch them...it wasn't his 'touch' per say as much as his bedside manner and the 'way' he touched that allowed trust to become a bond that led to healing.
Jesus said as much. It is your faith that has healed you. 'Healers' have the power to lead one to their own faith launching pad so to speak. The magic is in the mind. No mystical healing powers flow through anyone's veins...or hands. It all flows from the mind of the healer and the healed.

For instance, the lady in the wheelchair...something about the 'healer' made her believe that she could lose the chair. The mind creates thoughts...when those thoughts reach a certain level of 'desire' they seek their physical equivalent with vigor. I love these stories. I am not pooh-poohing anyone's healing or belief in healing, rather; I am attempting to shed truth on the issue. We often times give power to others that we actually possess ourselves all along.
Darkwind
The thing about that therapist is she didn't know she had the gift and when she touched my feet for the first time I was taken by surprise, I was expecting it to hurt. She was just starting out in her career. There was no bedside manner about her. She was doing her job. I explained to her, her gift and talk to her about how to build it through meditation. Physical therapy is a painful process, I knew going in there what I was in for. Whether you believe it or not Joc is no matter to me, I know what happened.
She-ra
QUOTE(joc @ Jul 12 2007, 08:02 AM) *
Again, it was HER belief and faith and not some 'mysterious' power of the healer.
Just as DarkAngels experience with feet pain and the 'one' person who could touch them...it wasn't his 'touch' per say as much as his bedside manner and the 'way' he touched that allowed trust to become a bond that led to healing.
Jesus said as much. It is your faith that has healed you. 'Healers' have the power to lead one to their own faith launching pad so to speak. The magic is in the mind. No mystical healing powers flow through anyone's veins...or hands. It all flows from the mind of the healer and the healed.

For instance, the lady in the wheelchair...something about the 'healer' made her believe that she could lose the chair. The mind creates thoughts...when those thoughts reach a certain level of 'desire' they seek their physical equivalent with vigor. I love these stories. I am not pooh-poohing anyone's healing or belief in healing, rather; I am attempting to shed truth on the issue. We often times give power to others that we actually possess ourselves all along.


Wow nice insight. So, let me see if I'm following you here. It's more of a connection between the healer and the healee (did I just make up a new word? lol).

I think I see what you're saying. The power of faith. Nice. Yes, I don't think I have any mystical powers or anything but I wonder about the whole energy thing, ya know?

I love this:
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We often times give power to others that we actually possess ourselves all along.
...Brilliant. Thanks Joc. kiss.gif Jody
joc
QUOTE(Darkwind @ Jul 12 2007, 12:46 PM) *
The thing about that therapist is she didn't know she had the gift and when she touched my feet for the first time I was taken by surprise, I was expecting it to hurt. She was just starting out in her career. There was no bedside manner about her. She was doing her job. I explained to her, her gift and talk to her about how to build it through meditation. Physical therapy is a painful process, I knew going in there what I was in for. Whether you believe it or not Joc is no matter to me, I know what happened.


Please don't misunderstand me....I do believe your story. I am just explaining how I think the methods of healing work.
As you said...you explained to her, her gift. You connected with her in a personable way...i.e. you liked the way she touched you...it didn't hurt the way she touched you. People do indeed have 'gifts' of touch. Some people are awkward in that area and no matter how they try they just aren't as 'sensitive' as others. For example: my wife. Now, I admit I am a bit prejudiced...but I don't know anyone else that has the 'sensitivity' in touch like she does. It is a gift. It 'feels' better when she rubs or scratches my back than when anyone else does it. But 'healing' is not just touching. The ability for someone to touch your feet without hurting you is the beginning of the healing process.
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I love this:
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We often times give power to others that we actually possess ourselves all along.

...Brilliant. Thanks Joc. kiss.gif Jody


I'm glad you got that! One of the few things in life that we have any control over is our own thought process...that being the case...if we choose not to control our own thought process...how totally out of control we truly are! original.gif
MissMelsWell
I'm still not convinced of "touch healing" being anything more than someone who has a good handle on other people's emotions. A good sense of psychological soothing if you will.

What I can't explain is what happened to me in labor and delivery. The docs were standing by preparing to c-sect me because they rightfully believed there was no way to turn a 7lb kid inside a 100lb woman (baby was side to side, not head down)... it should have bee nearly impossible. It would be interesting to know if anyone else has ever expereinced a transverse babe who with no physical manipulation went head down while the mother was in labor. I've heard of docs manipulating moms belly to massage the baby into a head down position (it works about 30% of the time), but I've never heard of baby turning itself.
John A Spera
Hello Jody,

Here is some information I found that you might fine encouraging ....... John

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QUESTION (35) Dear Kryon: I have a question about healing and the way that the healing practices/processes all seem to be tied up with so much red tape as to be almost impossible to enter into without so many years of "training/instruction" or expensive tuition/courses, etc. I'm a "natural" healer, like all humans, but I'm working closely with my own intuition as to how to operate: I don't lay on hands, but work with my hands just above the body, feeling changes in the energy. I imagine I'm emitting or sending beams of light into the aura.

My question is, how do we natural healers (who don't wish to be boxed into a certain mode of operation or to join this or that association) offer our services without fear of falling foul of some code or without suffering the pitfalls of the lack of insurance coverage? I feel very strongly about this. To me, healing is love, and nobody should be penalized for offering love in a hands-on/hands-off fashion, but the powers that be seem relentless in their efforts to control and place restrictions upon what must surely be a most ancient and natural expression of love.

ANSWER Dear one, all that you said is accurate. Many are coming into the planet with "remembrances" that are profound as to how to intuitively reach for the correct healing for Human biological DNA. You're one of those, and you know it. Not only are you frustrated with the system, but also with Lightworkers themselves, who don't see your "qualifications." You didn't say that, but it's so.

The answer is that you must actually work outside of the system, but honor the system, probably most of your life. It's a tightrope that will result in the most healings. Remember that the rule-makers are not as altruistic as you are. Their rules are often for financial gain as much as anything else. You can't expect this to change much in your generation, for you're one of the forerunners. In fact, expect their whole system to fail before it gets any better. It's almost beyond repair.

Meanwhile, go forth in joy and use what you have in profound ways. Don't challenge the system, for it's very young and doesn't understand who you are. Instead, learn to "wink" at it and flow with it. If it allows you to be a masseuse, yet you really are healing people, then laugh and "be" a masseuse in their eyes! If it allows you to use acupuncture [which honors insurance in certain states], then become one! Then also use the energy work that you know about along with the acupuncture. There are many ways to flow into the system yet still achieve profound healing in other areas.

Learn to flow with the society you live in. Pay the association fees and join the schools. But when you're one-on-one with a patient, use the Lemurian tools you were given and perform the miracles you're capable of.

Then... everyone wins. This isn't deceit, but rather a form of wisdom that takes in the system in ways that it wants, while also allowing the most healing for the most Humans. Think about the goal. It's about love.
She-ra
Mr. Spera,

Thank you so much for posting the above for me. I truly appreciate it!

I don't think I could ever "charge" people; that is "if" I studied healing. It would be more of a gift that is shared if I was able to do so.

I really enjoyed the last sentence:
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Think about the goal. It's about love.

It is about love and caring for others; I would be elated if I was able to do anything close to the above posts...the feet, baby or wheelchair.

Hmmm, I wonder if anyone else here has a special healing story? I would love to hear it!!

Thanks again and take care, Jody original.gif
Please Explain
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 12 2007, 11:02 PM) *
Hmmm, I wonder if anyone else here has a special healing story? I would love to hear it!!

I have one but very short.
There's an old woman with a cancer and doctors said she had 2 weeks to live.
So where do you think this woman go? Faith healers.
Cancer gone according to the doctors.
She-ra
Yes, I've heard that, but moreso I've heard it helps (not necessarily cures) cancer patients. I live literally like 2 miles from NIH where they have done this testing. I guess I'm looking to hear more since it's so localized for me, ya know?

Thank you Please Explain original.gif Jody
Jor-el
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 13 2007, 12:02 AM) *
Hmmm, I wonder if anyone else here has a special healing story? I would love to hear it!!


This experience was not with me personally. I was at a revival meeting held in a city park in Lisbon, the Evangaelist who was preaching was called Reinhard Bonnke. I saw this guy and his baby of about 4 months going up for prayer. He was asking that his son be cured of aids. The guy was a drug addict and so was his girlfriend. Their son was born with aids.

The minister layed his hands on the guy and on the baby, suddenly there was what seemed like an electric shock that went through him and the baby. I tell you, this man flew at least 2 meters backward and he let his son fall on the floor. Everybody was in a panic because we were worried that the baby might have been hurt.

Both the guy and his son were unconcious for about 5 minutes. They took them off the stage and I thought that was the end of the story, until I met the guy a few months later.

Both he and the child had been totally cured from aids. There was not a single trace of the virus in his blood stream and that of the baby. I still have intermittent contact with him. He came for a visit at the Seminary where I was studying at the time, I started talking to him and he eventually showed me medical documentation from his doctor and the hospital to prove what he was saying. This was in 1993. The kid is now 14 years old and doing well.


That he and the baby had aids is an undisputed fact. The medical records went back 2 years for him and 4 months for the baby.

This is the only case I know personally, all the others are hearsay that go from person to person but this one I'll never forget.
She-ra
Jor-el ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif What an amazing story!! That's incredible...LOVE IT!! grin2.gif Thank You, Jody
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