She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 01:28 PM
I have a question about the references in the Bible of Jesus using the "laying of hands" to heal people.
Could that somehow be related to the reiki healing used today?
Just curious.
randomhit10
Jul 10 2007, 06:52 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 10 2007, 01:28 PM)

I have a question about the references in the Bible of Jesus using the "laying of hands" to heal people.
Could that somehow be related to the reiki healing used today?
Just curious.

The word Reiki is made of two Japanese words - Rei which means "God's Wisdom or the Higher Power" and Ki which is "life force energy". So Reiki is actually "spiritually guided life force energy." .....if what this says is correct, then probably not much difference because of who is given the credit...
randomhit10
Please Explain
Jul 10 2007, 07:13 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 10 2007, 01:28 PM)

I have a question about the references in the Bible of Jesus using the "laying of hands" to heal people.
Could that somehow be related to the reiki healing used today?
Nope, reiki is energy coming from us, while Laying of hands to heal comes from the Holy Spirit.
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 08:08 PM
THANKS!
libra II
Jul 10 2007, 08:13 PM
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 10 2007, 09:13 PM)

Nope, reiki is energy coming from us, while Laying of hands to heal comes from the Holy Spirit.
But what is the Holy Sprit?
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(libra II @ Jul 10 2007, 04:13 PM)

But what is the Holy Sprit?
One of the Holy Trinity?
theghost
Jul 10 2007, 08:25 PM
Easy answer.NO.
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 08:25 PM
lol...ok. thanks!
libra II
Jul 10 2007, 08:28 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 10 2007, 10:17 PM)

One of the Holy Trinity?
Maybe, She-ra, but it doesn't really answer the question
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 08:34 PM
Ummm, I feel like I'm in high school again...ummmmm. Okay, the Holy Spirit IS one o the Holy Trinity meaning, Father, Son (Jesus) and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is different because it's always with us? AHHHHHH I don't know just tell me, ok?
libra II
Jul 10 2007, 08:52 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 10 2007, 10:34 PM)

Ummm, I feel like I'm in high school again...ummmmm. Okay, the Holy Spirit IS one o the Holy Trinity meaning, Father, Son (Jesus) and Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is different because it's always with us? AHHHHHH I don't know just tell me, ok?

Sorry, girl, but I don't answer direct questions like THAT. Sometimes I'll try to explain them, but never REALLY explain them. It's not my job. So today I'm "Socrates", who are you?
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 08:56 PM
dumb a**?
libra II
Jul 10 2007, 08:59 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 10 2007, 10:56 PM)

dumb a**?
Absolutely not, but let's leave the question for someone else to answer anyway.
Take care, She-ra
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 09:01 PM
Sorry I don't get it Libra II
Jor-el
Jul 10 2007, 09:10 PM
QUOTE(libra II @ Jul 10 2007, 09:59 PM)

Absolutely not, but let's leave the question for someone else to answer anyway.
Take care, She-ra
Which denominations version or interpretation would be the most correct for you then?
Let's see the JW's believe it is simply the life force of God flowing from him to us. It is not a person at all but a manifestation of Gods will in our lives.
Born again christians accept the existence of the Trinity and that the Holy Spirit is that part of the Godhead that acts on the word of God. In essence, The Father determines, the Son speaks and the HS acts.
See Wikipedia for more version:
Who is the Holy Spirit?
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 09:19 PM
Ummm, I just had a question about the references in the Bible of Jesus using the "laying of hands" to heal people.
I was wondering if that somehow be related to the reiki healing used today...that's all.
Jor-el
Jul 10 2007, 09:21 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 10 2007, 02:28 PM)

I have a question about the references in the Bible of Jesus using the "laying of hands" to heal people.
Could that somehow be related to the reiki healing used today?
Just curious.

The Best way to answer your question would be to find out what Reiki is all about spiritually speaking, then compare the information to what you know of laying of hands. You should be able to come to a decision on whether or not it is related quite quickly.
ReikiLaying on of Hands
libra II
Jul 10 2007, 09:24 PM
QUOTE(Jor-el @ Jul 10 2007, 11:10 PM)

Which denominations version or interpretation would be the most correct for you then?
Let's see the JW's believe it is simply the life force of God flowing from him to us. It is not a person at all but a manifestation of Gods will in our lives.
Born again christians accept the existence of the Trinity and that the Holy Spirit is that part of the Godhead that acts on the word of God. In essence, The Father determines, the Son speaks and the HS acts.
See Wikipedia for more version:
Who is the Holy Spirit?Nice try, lad, but since you knew you couldn't really answer the question, then you really shouldn't have bothered to try.
Fanx anyway
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 09:29 PM
QUOTE(Jor-el @ Jul 10 2007, 05:21 PM)

The Best way to answer your question would be to find out what Reiki is all about spiritually speaking, then compare the information to what you know of laying of hands. You should be able to come to a decision on whether or not it is related quite quickly.
ReikiLaying on of HandsGood idea. Thanks. I'll check it out.
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 09:32 PM
QUOTE(libra II @ Jul 10 2007, 05:27 PM)

ya right, girl.
See ya around
Okay hun, see you around. Thanks anyway
Jor-el
Jul 10 2007, 09:43 PM
QUOTE(libra II @ Jul 10 2007, 10:24 PM)

Nice try, lad, but since you knew you couldn't really answer the question, then you really shouldn't have bothered to try.
Fanx anyway
Interesting that you didn't answer her question either. Does the desire to elucidate others pass you by on your way to higher learning and wisdom?
libra II
Jul 10 2007, 10:05 PM
QUOTE(Jor-el @ Jul 10 2007, 11:43 PM)

Interesting that you didn't answer her question either. Does the desire to elucidate others pass you by on your way to higher learning and wisdom?
Like I said, it's not my job. It's the job of certain fat gits.
Take care, Jor-el
Jor-el
Jul 10 2007, 10:32 PM
QUOTE(libra II @ Jul 10 2007, 11:05 PM)

Like I said, it's not my job. It's the job of certain fat gits.
Take care, Jor-el
Jeeez!!!
I could say more but I'd probably get my post deleted.
Shankpin
Jul 10 2007, 11:53 PM
Shera, LOL!
read that information that Jorel left.... let the holy spirit guide you with the answer..imo.. A great question though, I've often wondered about it myself-- :}
She-ra
Jul 10 2007, 11:56 PM
Thanks Sunni
Shankpin
Jul 11 2007, 12:03 AM
YW,

sweet! When you're done and get your answers, I'm interested in what you think....
Shankpin
Jul 11 2007, 12:05 AM
Shera's sig--> DESSERTS IS STRESSED SPELLED BACKWARDS!!!
hahahah!! Goood heavens... hehahahah
Please Explain
Jul 11 2007, 01:06 AM
I can prove to anyone the existence of energy within us
and the Holy Spirit from God.
Any good cash to spare?
joc
Jul 11 2007, 01:29 AM
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 11 2007, 01:06 AM)

I can prove to anyone the existence of energy within us
and the Holy Spirit from God.
Any good cash to spare?
Did we forget to take our medication again?
Please Explain
Jul 11 2007, 02:10 AM
QUOTE(joc @ Jul 11 2007, 01:29 AM)

Did we forget to take our medication again?

Haven't got breakfast yet.
No, serious...i can prove reiki.
Darkwind
Jul 11 2007, 02:50 AM
If you believe all energy comes from a single source then I would say yes it is the same. Some people can lay their hands on me and it helps my pain it doesn't seem to matter what religion they are. I know I am a good test as whether someone is a true healer or not. I know some who claim to be healers won't touch me maybe because they know my pain is the real thing.
joc
Jul 11 2007, 12:24 PM
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 11 2007, 02:10 AM)

Haven't got breakfast yet.
No, serious...i can prove reiki.
So can I. There is no 'magic'. It is the opposite of Voodoo. The belief and faith of the one being healed is a prerequisite for healing. If one believes the one laying on hands will heal them...they set themselves in a mental state for healing.
'tis the power of the human mind...not the transference of any energy. It is a matter of the 'healed' trusting the 'healer' to heal them. No one has power to heal...only the 'healed' have that power. That being said...some are better than others at leading the 'healed' to the point of faith that they can actually use that faith towards the betterment of their physical state.
My opinion.
Darkwind
Jul 11 2007, 01:44 PM
Joc, have you ever been through a healing? I think I have told this story before, but oh well live through it again. lol When I was in the hospital my legs and feet were very touch sensitive. I think all nurses have foot fetish, because every time they came in the room they would touch my feet which would cause me extreme pain. There was this one physical therapist who could touch my feet and all I would feel was warmth, which was a great because she had to lift my feet in order for me to work on my walking on the bars. I remember after one really painful session I took off my shoes and ask her to hold my feet. You can't imagine how good it felt to have that beautiful warmth instead of the pain. When ever I am in a healing situation I never know the out come. I keep hoping my massage therapist will acquire the touch, but all I get is a massage. Which is nice, but it is not the same.
libra II
Jul 11 2007, 02:45 PM
Just in case anyone got me wrong yesterday
The fat gits I was talking about are not ordinary religious people, but the "the high and mighty ones" who are supposed to be making the world a better place for everyone. There is no harm done in ordinary people trying to get it right in my opinion though. When I say it's not my job to define certain Biblical or perhaps not so Biblical subjects, or subjects from other religions, then I mean it as a none religious person. I do, as some have probably noticed by now, sometimes get as close to an actual explanation of certain things, but......
Dear Jor-el, if you thought I was calling you a "fat git" then you got me wrong. I must admit it wasn't your fault if you did. Sorry if so, just like I'm sorry if anyone else here at U-M thought I was referring to them
Love you all
Libra II
She-ra
Jul 11 2007, 03:04 PM
QUOTE(libra II @ Jul 11 2007, 10:45 AM)

Just in case anyone got me wrong yesterday
The fat gits I was talking about are not ordinary religious people, but the "the high and mighty ones" who are supposed to be making the world a better place for everyone. There is no harm done in ordinary people trying to get it right in my opinion though. When I say it's not my job to define certain Biblical or perhaps not so Biblical subjects, or subjects from other religions, then I mean it as a none religious person. I do, as some have probably noticed by now, sometimes get as close to an actual explanation of certain things, but......
Dear Jor-el, if you thought I was calling you a "fat git" then you got me wrong. I must admit it wasn't your fault if you did. Sorry if so, just like I'm sorry if anyone else here at U-M thought I was referring to them
Love you all
Libra II
It take a strong and decent person to apologize in a post.
I admire you for that. Thank You.
Much love back at you too, Jody
libra II
Jul 11 2007, 03:17 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 11 2007, 05:04 PM)

It take a strong and decent person to apologize in a post. I admire you for that. Thank You.
Much love back at you too, Jody
In that case I'll have my babies with you instead, Jody (She-ra). Sorry, Jor-el
See ya around, girl
She-ra
Jul 11 2007, 03:21 PM
LMAO
Please Explain
Jul 11 2007, 03:22 PM
QUOTE(joc @ Jul 11 2007, 12:24 PM)

So can I. There is no 'magic'.
Mr. Joc, there is no magic for those who don't want to practice it.
Since i was boy, i have felt the presence of the Holy Spirit, especially in a healing sessions.
I was a boy and i don't know what faith is, but why i feel a cosmic energy pouring down on my arms?
Where is that coming from? I am now old like you but still thinking about it.
There is magic Mr Joc. Just play am-c-d-f-am-c-e, you know what i mean and that's magic.
libra II
Jul 11 2007, 03:49 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 11 2007, 05:21 PM)

LMAO
That better not be an insult, girl. I've got everything ready for the wedding
Take care, She-ra
She-ra
Jul 11 2007, 03:51 PM
No way hun...not an insult. You just made me laugh. So what kind of cake?? CHOCOLATE, maybe??? hee hee
libra II
Jul 11 2007, 03:55 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 11 2007, 05:51 PM)

No way hun...not an insult. You just made me laugh. So what kind of cake?? CHOCOLATE, maybe??? hee hee
Forget the cake, girl, I know what a proper "cake" looks like when I see one
libra II
Jul 11 2007, 03:59 PM
Gotta go the pub now, but don't forget the wedding. It's tmorrow at 3.
See ya around She-ra
She-ra
Jul 11 2007, 04:04 PM
Eeeeek. Wait...I'm married already!!!! You're silly. Have fun at the pub. Drink a Stella for me.
sbradj
Jul 11 2007, 04:12 PM
QUOTE(joc @ Jul 11 2007, 08:24 AM)

So can I. There is no 'magic'. It is the opposite of Voodoo. The belief and faith of the one being healed is a prerequisite for healing. If one believes the one laying on hands will heal them...they set themselves in a mental state for healing.
exactly...why would one allow someone's hands to be laid upon them if they wasnt expecting "something" ...
IMO I dont think the two are the same..
libra II
Jul 11 2007, 04:28 PM
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 11 2007, 06:04 PM)

Eeeeek. Wait...I'm married already!!!! You're silly. Have fun at the pub. Drink a Stella for me.

Don't be so old-fashioned, She-ra. Well okay, I must admit even I can get jealous from time to time when the neighbors wife cheats on me, but ya just can't trust people nowadays. Maybe I'll see ya again later, She-ra. Yes, I'll drink a Stella for ya
Love ya humor, girl, take care
Jor-el
Jul 11 2007, 05:31 PM
QUOTE(libra II @ Jul 11 2007, 03:45 PM)

Just in case anyone got me wrong yesterday
The fat gits I was talking about are not ordinary religious people, but the "the high and mighty ones" who are supposed to be making the world a better place for everyone. There is no harm done in ordinary people trying to get it right in my opinion though. When I say it's not my job to define certain Biblical or perhaps not so Biblical subjects, or subjects from other religions, then I mean it as a none religious person. I do, as some have probably noticed by now, sometimes get as close to an actual explanation of certain things, but......
Dear Jor-el, if you thought I was calling you a "fat git" then you got me wrong. I must admit it wasn't your fault if you did. Sorry if so, just like I'm sorry if anyone else here at U-M thought I was referring to them
Love you all
Libra II
No harm done Libra.
I did actually study to be a "fat git" a long time agooo..... but I never got round to practicing what I learned. I sort of got side-tracked... if you know what I mean...
MissMelsWell
Jul 11 2007, 06:40 PM
Actually, I don't know that you have to be aware or supportive of "laying on of hands" or "Reki" to have it work or be of benefit.
I think I've had direct experience with this in the past (which I've spoken about here before) it happened when I was in labor with my daughter some 20 years ago. I had no idea what my mothers best friend had done to me, she gave me no forwarning, she never touched me physically, but somehow, I think she used a type of Reki or touch healing to turn my daughter from transverse to head down. My baby was born no more than 20 minutes after that, and without pain.
She was a nurse at the hospital I was delivering at, and the other doctors in the room were thunderstruck that baby turned without force. Frankly, the docs were convinced that I'd have to go C-section.
Basically the docs were saying "we'll prep OR for a c-section" and my mom's friend (my labor coach) said, "wait before we do that, let me try one thing, it's not going to hurt anything". After that, she clapped her hands together, rubbed them a few times, told me to take a deep breath and let it out slowly and she placed her hands over (never touched me) my belly and a feeling like being on a roller coaster washed over me. I was completely queasy. Almost instantly after the sick feeling went away, I had 5 or 6 contractions, pushed 3 times and had myself a gorgeous baby girl.
Her co-workers had never seen anything like it. Her supervisors at the hospital actually considered moving her to maternity (very coveted position), but she was a supervising ER nurse and that's what she wanted to continue doing... I have no doubt that she used her "talent" on many of her trauma patients without them even knowing it.
Darkwind
Jul 11 2007, 10:05 PM
Like I say until you experience it you don't understand it. Thanks for sharing Mels.
MissMelsWell
Jul 11 2007, 10:37 PM
OH hahaa, I STILL don't understand it... I'm not even sure it wasn't just a coincidence (although unlikely) but something bizarre happened. But I'm not going to complain about it. I was a 100 pound kid that gave birth to a baby nearly a 10th of my own weight and without pain or labor to speak of. I don't think I care what it was, but it sure was great! ahhaaha.
She-ra
Jul 11 2007, 11:34 PM
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ Jul 11 2007, 02:40 PM)

Actually, I don't know that you have to be aware or supportive of "laying on of hands" or "Reki" to have it work or be of benefit.
I think I've had direct experience with this in the past (which I've spoken about here before) it happened when I was in labor with my daughter some 20 years ago. I had no idea what my mothers best friend had done to me, she gave me no forwarning, she never touched me physically, but somehow, I think she used a type of Reki or touch healing to turn my daughter from transverse to head down. My baby was born no more than 20 minutes after that, and without pain.
She was a nurse at the hospital I was delivering at, and the other doctors in the room were thunderstruck that baby turned without force. Frankly, the docs were convinced that I'd have to go C-section.
Basically the docs were saying "we'll prep OR for a c-section" and my mom's friend (my labor coach) said, "wait before we do that, let me try one thing, it's not going to hurt anything". After that, she clapped her hands together, rubbed them a few times, told me to take a deep breath and let it out slowly and she placed her hands over (never touched me) my belly and a feeling like being on a roller coaster washed over me. I was completely queasy. Almost instantly after the sick feeling went away, I had 5 or 6 contractions, pushed 3 times and had myself a gorgeous baby girl.
Her co-workers had never seen anything like it. Her supervisors at the hospital actually considered moving her to maternity (very coveted position), but she was a supervising ER nurse and that's what she wanted to continue doing... I have no doubt that she used her "talent" on many of her trauma patients without them even knowing it.
WOW. What a great story.
What a gift to be given to you as well. Wow. Did you ever see the nurse again? Thanks for posting this again where I could see it!! Lovely. Take care, Jody
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