I see all these posts about bees leaving, global warming, and all this end of the world stuff, and it's actually kind of scary. I'm 13, I want to actually grow up, not die in 4 years, because of those damned bees. I want to live a full, strong life, be a writer or: be a movie director, be an actor, produce cartoons, sell comics, be a famous soccer player, be a famous basketball player, or football player.
I want to do so many things, but if we're gonna die in 4 years, we should at least fix everything horrible we've done, before time runs out. It's starting to scare me that we have no time left. I wish I could explain to you how I feel about this.

-ThaddO

Ignore it....I grew up beleiving the world would be destroyed by nuclear holocost (the soviets). it's one of the reasons Im such a mess today....ignore it. the bees will adapt. so global warming wipes out a few billion people (we could use it)...ignore it all and enjoy life!

Yeah just ignore it, humans have been speculating about the end of the world since the year 1000. Since then many new theories have come up about the end of the world and many new dates. Why? Because humankind fears the end of the world, the human species fears it's end, it's death, so we get eager to know when it will happen.

When I was younger, it was told to me by a pastor that the world would start to end in 2000. Mind you, it wasn't the Y2K scare, just Satan coming back and all that. Anyway, I pondered on it a bit, and then I started to realize.

My God, if the world ends in 2000 I wont even be old enough to drive yet? So you know what I did? I took my dads car and drove it down the driveway, hit a trashcan, and eventually figured out how to put it in park. It was my chance to fulfill a dream, and I did it.

I'm not telling you to jack your dads car, just live your life to the fullest. If the world is going to end soon, there is nothing we can do about it.

People have been having END OF THE WORD scares for thousands of years and at times people got so affraid that a bunch of them would even comit suicide,and for what?The world continued,sure it,s had it,s ups and downs with wars and disasters, natural and man made, but for better or worse we are still here!Don,t let the shadow of fear real or imaginary dull your light,you are here alive and smartand hopefully healthy,you are a valid human being with a great deal to offer,learn and teach! Live your life and your dreams to the best of your ability!Thats all you or anyone can do! Oh and get plenty of rest and eat your veggies!

ThaddO,

Here is a link from NASA that may bring you some comfort on the man-made global warming matter. It was originally posted on page 5 of the thread titled School Bans 'An Inconvenient Truth'.

What we're having laid out before us by those the likes of Al Gore and other pseudo-scientists are charts that date back only a fraction of geologic history. Sure a climate model dating back to 1800 is going to illustrate a gargantuan spike, but NASA's charts cover climate between 30 to 60 million years B.C. when man did not walk the Earth.

Ask yourself how the Ice Age defrosted without greenhouse gases emitted from industrial pollution to heat up the planet.

just ignore it. The world is not going to end, it is only some people who cannot cope with their problems that hope it will.

For global warming and the bees, lots of people are doing something already ... despite some knuckleheads who don't want to do anything except fill their coffers.

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don't listen to any of the above posts! (accept for swtp's) for one the worse thing you could possibly do is ignore it. if we all just ignore it then nothing ever changes and it will be all that much harder when it all hits the fan! people can always change there fate don't let any one tell you other wise. second off there is allot of evidence that man made global warming is real. if it wasn't then why do most off this worlds top scientists agree that it is real? some have even staked there careers on it despite the governments attempts at covering it up and some have payed dearly for it. they would not go to such lengths unless they had some thing important to say. which brings me to my last point. its not over yet! there is still some thing we can do to change are fate. there have been promising advances in alternative fuels. people have stopped ignoring it and now are trying to find ways help the earth and are investing in are future. but the real change can only come through are economics and are politics. thats one thing i hope will be on America's mind when the election year comes and it should be some thing we look for in the new president we chose. THE WORLD ISN'T OVER YET! there is still hope left

Ignorance brought about the issues we are currently facing today. Do not feed the fire.

Are you listening to yourself before you post, Ravinar? You're so threatened by what others have to say, some with links to government data (NASA, from the same government entity that oversees the EPA), that you're hoping to dictate a 13 year old's reading habits to him/her.

ThaddO is frightened, buddy. I'd suggest learning when to draw the line with fear mongering. Browse that NASA link I posted, and look at the difference in time scales compared to that of the IPCC data.

When Pandora's box was opened it released all the woes and ills of mankind, but do you know what was left in the box? HOPE!! Grow up to do all those things you want to do, become a strong amd caring person, that is the very best contribution that you can give to this world.... Make a difference, I am sure that you can

Amen, Keith.

You dont help with your ranting! Lets ALL remember that this is a 13 year old kid... he needs support, not to be dragged into other discussions that are polarised ( I am as guilty of this as anyone)

Agreed. My passion for the contrarian view arises from conjecture being claimed as bible truth by know-nothing, pretty faced celebrities and pseudo-scientists.

Though, as participants in debate we can only accept so much responsibility for young children who may not receive adult supervision during web browsing.

Agreed, I would just mention that I am not pretty faced or a celebrity.

Every one of those posters had points.. and they sound just as solid as yours. One even had a link to NASA which could be beneficial to the child. --

Completely rude, man.

Paragraph 4 of the National Geographic article below will provide some hope due to the amount of research, or lack thereof, existing on bee population trends. It's promising news to me, as the development could well be cyclical and temporary in relative terms. The key words are "...it's not well documented."

News.nationalgeographic.com

It isn't a current article, but it's publication three years into the past doesn't change the fact that study data was lacking in the 20th century.

I remember some alarmist sentiment here in CA about a decade ago when the elephant seals didn't waddle onto their favorite beach between Santa Cruz and SF in the quantities expected. They must have molted elsewhere, because I remember news of their triumphant return without environmental intervention.

The world has already ended.

The star we call the sun went Super Nova 147,000 years ago. We are traveling through space at light speed and have been and always will be since that event.

We came...we went...dig it!

Can't stop them from talking but I can shut them out. Get out! and do what you want

Live your life never knowing its end... enjoy the journey of life for it leads to many destinations and let hope be your guide.

Dont worry im younger than you! (13 next month) and I dont really listen about global warming so I wouldnt worry about it

the world is not a nice safe place were nothing can go wrong. you cant shield this kid from reality forever. he has ever right to be scared. were looking at a ruff few centuries ahead if some thing isn't done fast and i have no desire to get into a debate with you about global warming. the evidence points to the fact that "yes mankind is having a very significant impact on are planet". oh and bye the way a quote from your link:

:quote: “The onset and stabilization of ice sheets at the same time as a decline in carbon dioxide illustrates the importance of atmospheric carbon dioxide as an agent of both climate and biological change,” Pagani said. :quote:

your link doesn't discredit man made global warming. in fact it supports it! the earth after a big climate shift isn't pretty. it could take hundreds or even thousands of years for the earth to recover and thousands or even millions of years to regain the biodiversity that was lost. will it be the end of the world? no it wont. life on earth will go on but if we can stop it or even lesion its effects so the world will have time to adapt shouldn't we at least try? or should we ignore and deny it living in blissful ignorance until reality comes along to give us the smack down?

Ravinar,

What you failed to recognize in the quote is that reference to man's causation is absent.

Below is a quote from the same article.

Don't worry I was the same way we will be fine! I am 16 now and I remember my mom saying "the 4 horsemen aren't coming for the 8th time!" I just thought they were because of the gray magazines =)

Oh...Okay... Thanks for the help, cuz I have big plans, and not one of them include dying. But I'm not scared of death, just the world ending. It's just that there's no time, but I'll just ignore it, and in 4 years, if I die, I'll just die. It's all good.

I think the only post he is going to ignore is yours, that post was very rude. Mankind has always been looking for when and how the world is going to end. As I said before since the year 1000 man has been speculating this subject and the world is still here after so many years. Human kind is afraid of it's death, human kind is afraid of banishing from the Earth, so it reacts in this way, looking for ways of how the world would end and mostly the date. We can always stop the end of the world, we are inteligent and mostly control this planet.

Human kind will always look and speculate at how and when the world will end for the reason I stated before.



Humans will never be able to say the when the world would end and how thats why the keep speculating, so no, you are not at any real risk of dying in 4 years time.

let me put it this way to you: Whoever is afraid of dying will die a thousand times for fear, who is not will die only once.

Well, I'm not afraid of dying, nor should anybody else. And is that ginea pig sucking your....well nevermind.

Its not a guinea pig, its a 7 day old kitten whose mother was killed by a car. Now hes considerably fatter though.

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Id gather that people have been speculating on the end of the world before the year 1000. Look at it like this Thetadted.Of the thousands and thousands of predictions for the world to end before today none of them have been right, I think its pretty safe to draw the conclusion the ones for the future are just as silly and uneducated as the ones in the past.

Being human beings, we have evolved an imagination. This imagination can sometimes get carried away, Small children do it when they think the Boogy man is under the bed, unfortunately for all individuals it does not stop in the transition to adulthood. People are also very social and feel the need to relate their wild and imaginative panic to their fellow man. Unfortunately, again, other adults are prone to the state of "mob mentality".

In 4 years??? Is this that Maya or Inca calendar crap? Take it from a Native American. It's the end of their calender not the end of the world. Relax and enjoy your childhood. You only go through it once and don't worry about death you'll just give yourself a peptic ulcer.


Lapiche n'wel

Off of Mako's sig.

Our earth is degenerate in these latter days. There are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end. Bribery and corruption are common, Children no longer obey their parents. Every man wants to write a book, and the end of the world evidently is approaching.
Assyrian tablet circa 2800 BCE

Hopefully this eases your mind a little more.

Thanks for reminding me, had forgotten that one.